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Persoonlijke gegevens James Ives 

  • Hij is geboren op 1ST Q 1853 in Bow, Middlesex. England.Bron 1
    First name(s) JAMES
    Last name IVES
    Birth year 1853
    Birth quarter 1
    Registration month -
    Mother's last name -
    District Poplar
    County London
    Country England
    Volume 1C
    Page 592
  • Beroep: in het jaar 1881 Bargeman.Bron 1
  • Woonachtig:
    • in het jaar 1861: Mary Street, Bromley East, Poplar, London.
      1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
      Mary Street, Bromley East, Poplar, London, England

      First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
      Susannah Ives Wife Married Female 36 1825 Laundress Middlesex, England
      Willm J Ives Son - Male 11 1850 Schola r Enfield, Middlesex, England
      James Ives Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Bromley, Middlesex, England
      Ellen Ives Daughter - Female 13 1848 Scholar Enfield, Middlesex, England
      Jemima Ives Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Bromley, Middlesex, England
      Emma Ives Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Bromley, Middlesex, England
    • in het jaar 1871: .
    • in het jaar 1881: 10 Wharf Cottages, West Hackney, London.Bron 1
      Source Information:
      Dwelling 10 Wharf Cottages
      Census Place London, Middlesex, England
      Family History Library Film 1341065
      Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 303; Folio: 107; Page: 33; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341065.

      1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
      10, Wharf Cottages, Hackney, London, England

      First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
      James Ives Head Married Male 28 1853 Bargeman Bow, Middlesex, England
      Sarah Ives Wife Married Female 26 1855 Laundress Ware, Hertfordshire, England
      James Ives Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Lea Bridge, Middlesex, England
      Frederick Ives Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Lea Bridge, Middlesex, England
      Henry Ives Son Single Male 1 1880 - Lea Bridge, Middlesex, England
      Thomas Albany Lodger Single Male 20 1861 Labourer Ware, Hertfordshire, England
  • Hij is overleden op 1ST Q 1886 in Poplar, London. England, hij was toen 33 jaar oud.
    Name: James Ives Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 33 District: Poplar (To 1965) County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 672

    First name(s) JAMES Last name IVES Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1853 Age 33
    Death quarter 1 Death year 1886 District Poplar County London Volume 1C Page 572 Country England
  • Hij is begraven op 3 maart 1886 in Queens Road Cemetary, Waltham Forest, London.
    Name: James Ives
    Age: 33
    Record Type: Burial
    Birth Date: abt 1853
    Death Date: abt 1886
    Death Place: Lea Bridge
    Burial Date: 3 Mar 1886
    Burial Place: Waltham Forest, Greater London, England
    Cemetery: Queens Road Cemetery
    Grave Number: II 2658
    Interment Number: 4190
    Cemetery Notes: Consecrated
  • Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 1 augustus 2021.

Gezin van James Ives

Hij is getrouwd met Sarah Elizabeth Albany.

Zij zijn getrouwd op 27 januari 1873 te Hackney, London. England, hij was toen 20 jaar oud.

Name: Sarah Elizabeth Albany Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Hackney County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 431
First name(s) SARAH ELIZABETH Last name ALBANY Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1873 Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ SARAH ELIZABETH ALBANY married one of these people WILLIAM ALLEN, JAMES IVES District HACKNEY District number - County London Country England Volume 1B Page 431

First name(s) JAMES Last name IVES Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1873 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JAMES IVES married one of these people Sarah Elizabeth Albany, Charlotte Wormald District Hackney District number -
County London Country England Volume 1B Page 431

From: Janice Cater Genes Reunited
Sent: 02/10/2010 11:54:01
To: Brian from Sussex
Subject: RE: RE: Sarah Elizabeth Albany c1855

Brian

Sorry for the delay in replying. I've had a look at your tree. Many thanks for Sarah Albany's second marriage to Charles Plant and James Ives death in 1886. I didn't have either.

One other thing while I remember - the 1881 census has James Ives and Sarah living at 10 Wharf Cottages with sons James, Frederick and Henry. There is also a Thomas Albany, lodger age 20 born Ware. Do you know if this is Sarah's brother? I don't see him as a sibling for Sarah in your tree.

I think you may be missing the following, or you may have chosen not to include it in your GR tree?

James Ives and Sarah Albany's marriage:
St Matthew Upper Clapton, 27 January 1873, James Ives full age, bachelor, labourer, Lea Bridge, father Charles Ives waterman
Sarah Elizabeth Albany, age 19, spinster, Lea Bridge, father William Albany waterman, James made his mark, Sarah signed witnesses G Albany and E S Ives

I also didn't have their first child James b1874 listed. I suspect this is because I worked from the baptism records for this couple rather than the census entries. I think you may be missing two children for this couple -

Ellen Susannah Ives born 12 Feb 1876, baptised 17 Mar 1878 St Matthew Upper Clapton, dies 2Q 1880 age 4, Hackney 1b 251

Sarah Elizabeth Ives born 16 Apr 1884, baptised 22 Dec 1884 St Matthew Upper Clapton. I think her death is at 2Q 1885 age 1, Hackney 1b 289.

I have made a note that there seems to be something amiss with the dates for Sarah. Her birth registration is 4Q 1883, but her birth date on her baptism record is 16 Apr 1844. If the baptism is correct, then there is a barely credible gap between her birth and that of Susan, born 30 Dec 1884.

As to the marriage of James William Ives and Emily Crampton, I think there were two children born to this couple after the 1911 census. BMD shows Walter R T Adams born 1Q 1913 Hackney 1b 729, mother's maiden name Ives, and Joan V Adams born 1Q 1918 Hackney 1b 478, mother's maiden name Ives. There are also two other children born to an Adams with mother's maiden names Ives, but these were registered in West Ham. I think we can discount these because one is 1Q 1913, which would clash with Walter's birth in Hackney, and the other West Ham birth in 1916 must surely be to the same parents as the 1913 one.

My link to the Albany family is also quite remote. James Ives' (1854) parents were Charles Ives and Susannah Iszard. Susannah was my 3x great aunt.

I've opened my tree for you. There may be some detail you might find interesting, although I am a bit behind with it.

Regards

Jan

Kind(eren):

  1. James William Ives  1874-1927
  2. Ellen Susannah Ives  1876-1880
  4. Henry George Ives  1879-1965
  5. William Thomas Ives  1881-1953
  7. Susan Ives  1884-1960


Notities over James Ives

From: Janice Cater Genes Reunited
Sent: 02/10/2010 11:54:01
To: Brian from Sussex
Subject: RE: RE: Sarah Elizabeth Albany c1855

Brian

Sorry for the delay in replying. I've had a look at your tree. Many thanks for Sarah Albany's second marriage to Charles Plant and James Ives death in 1886. I didn't have either.

One other thing while I remember - the 1881 census has James Ives and Sarah living at 10 Wharf Cottages with sons James, Frederick and Henry. There is also a Thomas Albany, lodger age 20 born Ware. Do you know if this is Sarah's brother? I don't see him as a sibling for Sarah in your tree.

I think you may be missing the following, or you may have chosen not to include it in your GR tree?

James Ives and Sarah Albany's marriage:
St Matthew Upper Clapton, 27 January 1873, James Ives full age, bachelor, labourer, Lea Bridge, father Charles Ives waterman
Sarah Elizabeth Albany, age 19, spinster, Lea Bridge, father William Albany waterman, James made his mark, Sarah signed witnesses G Albany and E S Ives

I also didn't have their first child James b1874 listed. I suspect this is because I worked from the baptism records for this couple rather than the census entries. I think you may be missing two children for this couple -

Ellen Susannah Ives born 12 Feb 1876, baptised 17 Mar 1878 St Matthew Upper Clapton, dies 2Q 1880 age 4, Hackney 1b 251

Sarah Elizabeth Ives born 16 Apr 1884, baptised 22 Dec 1884 St Matthew Upper Clapton. I think her death is at 2Q 1885 age 1, Hackney 1b 289.

I have made a note that there seems to be something amiss with the dates for Sarah. Her birth registration is 4Q 1883, but her birth date on her baptism record is 16 Apr 1844. If the baptism is correct, then there is a barely credible gap between her birth and that of Susan, born 30 Dec 1884.

As to the marriage of James William Ives and Emily Crampton, I think there were two children born to this couple after the 1911 census. BMD shows Walter R T Adams born 1Q 1913 Hackney 1b 729, mother's maiden name Ives, and Joan V Adams born 1Q 1918 Hackney 1b 478, mother's maiden name Ives. There are also two other children born to an Adams with mother's maiden names Ives, but these were registered in West Ham. I think we can discount these because one is 1Q 1913, which would clash with Walter's birth in Hackney, and the other West Ham birth in 1916 must surely be to the same parents as the 1913 one.

My link to the Albany family is also quite remote. James Ives' (1854) parents were Charles Ives and Susannah Iszard. Susannah was my 3x great aunt.

I've opened my tree for you. There may be some detail you might find interesting, although I am a bit behind with it.

Regards

Jan

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Trouwdag 27 januari 1873

  • De temperatuur op 27 januari 1873 lag rond de 1,8 °C. De winddruk was 4 kgf/m2 en kwam overheersend uit het oost-zuid-oosten. De luchtdruk bedroeg 77 cm kwik. De relatieve luchtvochtigheid was 66%. Bron: KNMI
  • Koning Willem III (Huis van Oranje-Nassau) was van 1849 tot 1890 vorst van Nederland (ook wel Koninkrijk der Nederlanden genoemd)
  • Van 6 juli 1872 tot 27 augustus 1874 was er in Nederland het kabinet De Vries - Fransen van de Putte met als eerste ministers Mr. G. de Vries Azn. (liberaal) en I.D. Fransen van de Putte (liberaal).
  • In het jaar 1873: Bron: Wikipedia
    • Nederland had zo'n 4,0 miljoen inwoners.
    • 1 januari » Japan gaat over op de gregoriaanse kalender.
    • 2 februari » Bisschopswijding van Edmond Dumont, 97-ste bisschop van het bisdom Doornik.
    • 28 februari » Armauer Hansen ontdekt de bacil die verantwoordelijk is voor de ziekte lepra
    • 4 maart » Ulysses S. Grant wordt beëdigd voor een tweede termijn als president van de Verenigde Staten
    • 20 mei » Levi Strauss en Jacob Davis krijgen patent op de spijkerbroek.
    • 21 juli » In Adair, Iowa beroven Jesse James en de James-Younger gang een trein. Dit is de eerste succesvolle treinberoving in het westen van de Verenigde Staten. In totaal US$3,000 werd gestolen van de Rock Island Express.

Dag van begraven 3 maart 1886

  • De temperatuur op 3 maart 1886 lag rond de -1 °C. Er was 0.2 mm neerslag. De winddruk was 26 kgf/m2 en kwam overheersend uit het noord-noord-westen. De luchtdruk bedroeg 74 cm kwik. De relatieve luchtvochtigheid was 90%. Bron: KNMI
  • Koning Willem III (Huis van Oranje-Nassau) was van 1849 tot 1890 vorst van Nederland (ook wel Koninkrijk der Nederlanden genoemd)
  • Van 23 april 1884 tot 21 april 1888 was er in Nederland het kabinet Heemskerk met als eerste minister Mr. J. Heemskerk Azn. (conservatief).
  • In het jaar 1886: Bron: Wikipedia
    • Nederland had zo'n 4,5 miljoen inwoners.
    • 14 maart » Firmin Lambot, Belgisch wielrenner († 1964)
    • 22 maart » Eerste Belgische auteurswet.
    • 8 april » De Duitser Carl Gassner verkrijgt octrooi op de droge zinkbatterij.
    • 29 mei » John Pemberton begint Coca-Cola te adverteren.
    • 31 oktober » Opening van de Dom Luis I-brug in de Portugese stad Porto.
    • 22 november » Oprichting van de Rooms-katholieke Missio sui juris Belgisch Congo.

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