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   WALTER [II] Berthout, son of GERARD Berthout & his wife --- (-1180). His parentage is confirmed by the record of the death of "Geeraert Wouter Berthouts vader" in 1131[795]. "Walterus Berthold, Gerardus frater eius, advocati…Grimbergensis ecclesiæ" are named in a charter dated 1149[796]. If the renconstruction shown here is correct, "frater" in this document must be interpreted as "brother-in-law". Croenen discusses why these (and other sources) should not be interpreted as indicating that "Geeraert" and "Gerardus frater eius" was the same person as Gerard [I] van Grimbergen who, he says, was the father-in-law of Walter [II] Berthout[797]. Sigebert records the twenty years war between "ducem Lovanii Godefridum iuniorem" and "Walterum cognomento Bertold" which ended in 1159 with the capture of Grimberghe[798]. "Walterus Berthold, Gerardus frater eius, advocati…Grimbergensis ecclesiæ" are named in a charter dated 1149[799]. "Godefridus dux et marchio Lotharingie, Waltero Bertaldo et filio eius Waltero, Gerardo et filio eius Gerardo" confirmed an earlier donation to Afflighem of "sylve…Buckenholt" by "comitis Arnulfi de Aderscoth…cum filio suo Iohanne" by charter dated to [1143/78][800]. "Walterus Berthout dominus Grimbergensis" on his deathbed and "filius meus Walterus" donated property to Antwerp St Michael by charter dated 1180[801]. "…Walterus Bertout…" witnessed the marriage contract dated 1179 between "Comitem Flandriæ Philippum…Mathildis neptis comitis" and "ducem Lovaniæ Godefridum…Henrici filii ducis"[802]. Heer van Mechelen.

   m [MARGARETA van Grimbergen, daughter of GERARD [I] [van Grimbergen] & his wife Adelais --- (-[3 Apr] ----). Croenen discusses the sources which confirm her parentage and marriage[803].] [The necrology of Brogne records the death "III Non Apr" of "Margarete de Grimberga"[804]. It is uncertain whether this entry refers to the daughter of Gerard [I].]

   Walter [II] & his wife had one child:

   1. WALTER [III] Berthout (-1201). "Godefridus dux et marchio Lotharingie, Waltero Bertaldo et filio eius Waltero, Gerardo et filio eius Gerardo" confirmed an earlier donation to Afflighem of "sylve…Buckenholt" by "comitis Arnulfi de Aderscoth…cum filio suo Iohanne" by charter dated to [1143/78][805]. "Walterus Berthout dominus Grimbergensis" on his deathbed and "filius meus Walterus" donated property to Antwerp St Michael by charter dated 1180[806]. "Walterus Bertholdus…cum coniuge mea Guda filiisque Waltero et Sophia uxore sua et Egidio" confirmed a donation to Everbode by charter dated 1200[807]. m BONNE de Looz, daughter of LOUIS [I] Comte de Looz & his wife ---. "Gerardus…comes de Los" donated property to Ardenne Saint-Hubert, with the consent of "uxoris nostre et heredum nostrorum", by charter dated 1194 witnessed by "Aleidis uxor nostra comitissa de Los, Ludovicus filius noster, Guda soror nostra de Grymberghe, Ysmena soror nostra quandoque Lotharingiæ ducissa…"[808]. "Walterus Bertholdus…cum coniuge mea Guda filiisque Waltero et Sophia uxore sua et Egidio" confirmed a donation to Everbode by charter dated 1200[809]. Walter [III] & his wife had two children:

   a) WALTER [IV] (-[Damietta 1219, bur Mechelen St Rumbold]). The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d´Angleterre names "Gautiers Bietaus…de Braybant…[et] freres germains…Gillon Bertaut le chambrelenc de Gremines"[810]. "Walterus Bertholdus…cum coniuge mea Guda filiisque Waltero et Sophia uxore sua et Egidio" confirmed a donation to Everbode by charter dated 1200[811].

   - HEREN van MECHELEN.

   b) EGIDIUS Berthout (-after 5 Jul 1217). The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d´Angleterre names "Gautiers Bietaus…de Braybant…[et] freres germains…Gillon Bertaut le chambrelenc de Gremines"[812]. "Walterus Bertholdus…cum coniuge mea Guda filiisque Waltero et Sophia uxore sua et Egidio" confirmed a donation to Everbode by charter dated 1200[813]. "…Walter Berthout, Egidius frater suus…" witnessed a charter dated 5 Jul 1217 under which "Heynricus…dux Lotaringensis" renewed an alliance with "Engilberto Coloniensis ecclesie electo"[814].

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