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  1. Géraud de Forez  ????-> 1046 


Notities over Artaud II de Forez

ARTAUD [II], son of GERAUD & his wife Gimburgis --- (-[993 or 999] or [11 Oct 1000]). "Artaldi comitis" donated property to the church of Saint-Irénée de Lyon by charter dated "pridie Kal Jul, xlviii anno regni Chunradi" ([985/86]), subscribed by "domni Artaldi…comitis…cum…conjuge…Tetbergiæ…domni Ugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adcelinæ abbatissæ…"[39]. "Artaldus comes, Gerardi quondam nobilis viri et Gimbergiæ filius" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi in ago Cegniacensi…in villa Toriniaco" to Savigny by charter dated 994, subscribed by "Artaldi comitis et uxoris eius Theodebergiæ"[40]. "Artaldus comes" donated property to Cluny by charter dated Apr 995[41]. It is possible that the seigneurs de Beaujeu (see the document BURGUNDY DUCHY NOBILITY) were related in some way to the comtes de Lyon et de Forez. Samuel Guichenon, in his Histoire de la Souverainté de Dombes written in 1662, cites earlier secondary sources which quote an epitaph (disappeared by the date of Guichenon's work) which records the death in "the year 99" of "Artaudus comes Lugdunensis et comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci et Umfredus frater eius et mater eorum qui obiit anno 99"[42]. Guichenon cites another version of the epitaph, from "une ancienne généalogie manuscrite" which he found in the archives of the "chapitre de Saint-Jean de Lyon"[43], which reads "Artaudus comes Lugdunensis ac Forensis, dominus Bellijoci, anno 999" and "Artaldus filius et mater eius". The editor of the 1874 edition of Guichenon records yet another version, from "la chronique trouvée à Belleville" which reads "…Artaldus comes Lugd. et Forensis dns Stephanus comes frater eius et Amphredus Bellijoci dns et pater et frater eorum, obiit dictus Artaldus 993"[44]. Guichenon's conclusion is that none of these versions is likely to be genuine, based on his supposition that pre-1000 epitaphs are infrequent and that those which exist record only names and titles not the territories ruled[45]. Paradin notes that “deux escussons des armoiries de Forez et Beaujolais” were on the epitaph[46]. Auguste Bernard confirms that the inscription could not therefore have been contemporary as such arms did not exist in the 10th century[47]. We are therefore left with little evidence to corroborate the claimed family connection with the seigneurs de Beaujeu.

m (before 1 Jul [985/86]) as her first husband, TEUTBERGA, daughter of --- (-9 Jun ----, after 13 Apr 1013). Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 994 under which "Artaldus comes, Gerardi quondam nobilis viri et Gimbergiæ filius" donated property to Savigny, subscribed by "Artaldi comitis et uxoris eius Theodebergiæ"[48]. "Artaldi comitis" donated property to the church of Saint-Irénée de Lyon by charter dated "pridie Kal Jul, xlviii anno regni Chunradi" ([985/86]), subscribed by "domni Artaldi…comitis…cum…conjuge…Tetbergiæ…domni Ugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adcelinæ abbatissæ…"[49]. She married secondly ([1001/08], repudiated) as his second wife, Pons Comte de Gévaudan et de Forez (-[26 Feb 1011/1016]), who was murdered by his stepson, Artaud Comte de Forez, in revenge for the repudiation of his mother Teutberga[50]. "Poncius…comes…Gabalitanensis telluris necnon et Forensis patriæ" donated "ecclesiam Langat…in comitatu Gabalitensi, aliam ecclesiam…Favairolas…" to Saint-Julien de Brioude, for the souls of "genitorum suorum Stephani et Alais et uxoris eius Theotbergæ et filiorum eius Stephani et Poncii vel fratrum eius Bertrandi et Willelmus et nepotum eius Stephani, Rotberti et Willelmi", by charter dated Feb [1010], signed by "Roberti vicecomitis, Willelmi fratris eius…"[51]. "Tedberga comitissa" donated property to Cluny for the souls of "senioris mei Artaldi et filiorum meorum Artaldi et Giraldi" by charter dated Mar 1010[52]. It is noted in the compilation that the document was subscribed by "Artaldi senioris eius, Artaldi filii eius, Giraldi filii eius" but that these subscriptions are only found in the cartulary version, the subscribers being unrecorded in the original charter[53]. There is clearly a mismatch between these signatories and the date of death of Artaud [II], assuming that both his death date and the date of the charter are correct. The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "V Id Jun" of "Tyeburga comitissa que dedit Sancto Stephano duos anaphos argenteos et unam fibulam auream cum preciosissimis gemmis"[54]. "Theuterga…comitissa" donated property to the abbey of Ainay for the soul of "senioris mei Artbaldi" by charter dated 13 Apr 1012, subscribed by "Rothildis filie sue"[55].

Artaud [II] & his wife had three children:
ARTAUD [III] (-[11 Feb] ---- or [24 Mar] ----, before [1017]).
GERAUD (-[5 Mar or 20 Sep] after 1046)
ROTHILDIS (-after 13 Apr 1012)

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[39] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 6 bis, p. 7. 

[40] Savigny 437, p. 237. 

[41] Cluny, Tome III, 2292, p. 419.   

[42] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, pp. 159-60, citing, among others, Paradin, G. Histoire de Lyon. 

[43] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 160. 

[44] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 161, footnote 1. 

[45] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 162. 

[46] Paradin (1573), p. 112.  

[47] Bernard (1875), p. 281. 

[48] Savigny 437, p. 237. 

[49] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 6 bis, p. 7. 

[50] Settipani (2004), p. 313. 

[51] Brioude Saint-Julien, 331, p. 335. 

[52] Cluny, Tome III, 2673, p. 703.   

[53] Cluny, Tome III, p. 703 footnote 2. 

[54] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise primatiale de Lyon.     

[55] Ainay, 147, p. 663. 

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