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Notities over Beatrice di Monferrato

Both Turton and Leo van de Pas, citing ES, have Beatrice as daughter of William Montferrat, d. 1191, by Judith. However the post below by Peter Stewart changes the classic ancestry.

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 4 Feb 2003, by Peter Stewart:

I think Tom was perhaps asking about the Beatrice who married Guigues V d'Albon, last male ruler of his line, becoming maternal grandmother to the first Burgundian Guigues d'Albon whose (third?) wife, Beatrice de Montferrat, Sally mentioned.

This earlier Beatrice is often named "de Montferrat" too, but actually that was her mother's family. Her father was Alberto di Parodi, margrave of Gavi & her mother was Matilda de Montferrat. She married firstly ca 1155 Guigues V, dauphin of Viennois & count of Albon (died in July 1162) and secondly of Enrico, marquis of Caretto.

Her daughter was another Beatrix, sometimes called la grande daupine (died 15 December 1228), who married first before 1179 Albéric Taillefer, count of Saint-Gilles (died ca 1183); secondly in September 1183 (as his second wife) Hugues III, duke of Burgundy (died on crusade at Acre 25 August 1192) by whom she was ancestress of the later dauphins, including her son whom Sally had in mind; and thirdly in 1193 Hugues I, seigneur of Coligny-le-Neuf (died September 1205).

Peter Stewart

Sources:
Jim Weber: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Gedcom File
Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
Page: 177
Text: Beatrice de Montferrat
Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
Page: Beatrix de Monferrato
Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Page: Peter Stewart, 4 Feb 2003
Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
Page: Guigues V Comte d'Albon, Dauphin de Viennois
Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
Page: Peter Stewart, 4 Feb 2003
Both Turton and Leo van de Pas, citing ES, have Beatrice as daughter of William Montferrat, d. 1191, by Judith. However the post below by Peter Stewart changes the classic ancestry.
The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 4 Feb 2003, by Peter Stewart:
I think Tom was perhaps asking about the Beatrice who married Guigues V d'Albon, last male ruler of his line, becoming maternal grandmother to the first Burgundian Guigues d'Albon whose (third?) wife, Beatrice de Montferrat, Sally mentioned.
This earlier Beatrice is often named "de Montferrat" too, but actually that was her mother's family. Her father was Alberto di Parodi, margrave of Gavi & her mother was Matilda de Montferrat. She married firstly ca 1155 Guigues V, dauphin of Viennois & count of Albon (died in July 1162) and secondly of Enrico, marquis of Caretto.
Her daughter was another Beatrix, sometimes called la grande daupine (died 15 December 1228), who married first before 1179 Albéric Taillefer, count of Saint-Gilles (died ca 1183); secondly in September 1183 (as his second wife) Hugues III, duke of Burgundy (died on crusade at Acre 25 August 1192) by whom she was ancestress of the later dauphins, including her son whom Sally had in mind; and thirdly in 1193 Hugues I, seigneur of Coligny-le-Neuf (died September 1205).
FROM JIM WEBER:

Both Turton and Leo van de Pas, citing ES, have Beatrice as daughter of William Montferrat, d. 1191, by Judith. However the post below by Peter Stewart changes the classic ancestry.

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM,
4 Feb 2003, by Peter Stewart:

I think Tom was perhaps asking about the Beatrice who married Guigues V d'Albon, last male ruler of his line, becoming maternal grandmother to the first Burgundian Guigues d'Albon whose (third?) wife, Beatrice de Montferrat, Sally mentioned.

This earlier Beatrice is often named "de Montferrat" too, but actually that was her mother's family. Her father was Alberto di Parodi, margrave of Gavi & her mother was Matilda de Montferrat. She married firstly ca 1155 Guigues V, dauphin of Viennois & count of Albon (died in July 1162) and secondly of Enrico, marquis of Caretto.

Her daughter was another Beatrix, sometimes called la grande daupine (died 15 December 1228), who married first before 1179 Albéric Taillefer, count of Saint-Gilles (died ca 1183); secondly in September 1183 (as his second wife) Hugues III, duke of Burgundy (died on crusade at Acre 25 August 1192) by whom she was ancestress of the later dauphins, including her son whom Sally had in mind; and thirdly in 1193 Hugues I, seigneur of Coligny-le-Neuf (died September 1205).

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Marriage 1 Guigues V Comte d' Albon , Comte de Grenoble b: ABT 1132 in St Rambert d'Albon, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France
•Married: 1155 in 1st husband 4 5
Children
1. Beatrice Dauphine de Viennois b: 1161 in Vienne, Loire, Lyonnais/Rhone-Alpes, France

Marriage 2 Enrico Marquis of Caretto b: ABT 1140 in Caretto, Italy
•Married: AFT 1162 in 2nd husband 3
PED OF AUGUSTINE H. AYERS

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