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Persoonlijke gegevens Hersende "Hersinde" de Lorraine 

• Roepnaam is Hersinde.
• Zij is geboren rond 865 TO ABT 862 in Lorraine, FranceLorraine.
• Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 28 november 1938.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 28 november 1938.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 28 november 1938.
• Zij is overleden op 10 NOV 927 TO ABT 907 in Hainault, Walloon Region, BelgiumWalloon Region.
• Een kind van Charles roi des Francs roi des Francs en Ermentrude d'Orléans
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 31 december 2011.

Gezin van Hersende "Hersinde" de Lorraine

Zij is getrouwd met Régnier Langhals de Hainaut.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 875 te France.

Kind(eren):

1. Giselbert (Gilbert) de Lorraine  ± 913-956 
2. Gerberga de Lorraine  ± 977-± 1015 

Notities over Hersende "Hersinde" de Lorraine

Kinship II - A collection of family, friends and U.S. Presidents
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2902060&id=I575187725
ID: I575187725
Name: Ermentrud Princess Of FRANCE [ABBESS OF HASNON]
Given Name: Ermentrud Princess Of
Surname: FRANCE [ABBESS OF HASNON]
Sex: F
Birth: Abt 0854 in Lorraine,France
Death: Aft 0915 in Hainaut - wife of Regnier I
Change Date: 4 Apr 2004 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Note:
Ancestral File Number: B67L-JP
TITL Final.ged
REPO
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MEDI Other
DATA
TEXT Date of Import: Feb 1, 1999
TITL Final.ged
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TEXT Date of Import: Feb 1, 1999

OCCU Princess of France ...
SOUR members.aol.com/sargen3
This name and marriage is in CHARLE.TXT (Compuserve) with a ? - NLP;COMYNI.
TAF gives mother as Hermentrude de Orleans while COMYN4.TAF gives motheras
Richildis - NLP; Carolingian - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #960;Marriagelisted
in Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 49 w/o ?-NLP;Royalty forCom-
moners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 154 gives mother as Ermentrude along withNOTE:
Chaume.O, I:599 gives Hersent as mother of Giselbert II-NLP

OCCU Princess of France ...
SOUR members.aol.com/sargen3
This name and marriage is in CHARLE.TXT (Compuserve) with a ? - NLP;COMYNI.
TAF gives mother as Hermentrude de Orleans while COMYN4.TAF gives motheras
Richildis - NLP; Carolingian - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #960;Marriagelisted
in Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 49 w/o ?-NLP;Royalty forCom-
moners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 154 gives mother as Ermentrude along withNOTE:
Chaume.O, I:599 gives Hersent as mother of Giselbert II-NLP

OCCU Princess of France ...
SOUR members.aol.com/sargen3
This name and marriage is in CHARLE.TXT (Compuserve) with a ? - NLP;COMYNI.
TAF gives mother as Hermentrude de Orleans while COMYN4.TAF gives motheras
Richildis - NLP; Carolingian - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #960;Marriagelisted
in Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 49 w/o ?-NLP;Royalty forCom-
moners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 154 gives mother as Ermentrude along withNOTE:
Chaume.O, I:599 gives Hersent as mother of Giselbert II-NLP

DATE 5 MAY 2000

OCCU Duchess of Lorraine ...

Father: Charles II of FRANCE b: 15 May 0823 in Frankfurt,Hessen-Nassau,Prussia
Mother: Ermentrude (Irmtrud) Countess Of ORLEANS b: 27 Sep 0830 in Of, Orlbeans, Neustria

Marriage 1 Rainer (Regnier) I, Duke Of LORRAINE b: 0860 in Of, , France
Married: 0889
Note:

Children
Gilbert Duke Of LORRAINE b: Abt 0890 in Of, Reims, Lorraine, France
Rainer II Count Of HAINAULT b: Abt 0892 in

Sources:
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Title: Ancestral File (R)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
Repository:

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Charles II The Bald, b 823 - Frankfurt, Prussia URL: http://www.treetracer.com/trees/Hall&Stantonweb_file/gp295.htm

Husband
Charles II "The Bald", Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Born: 13 JUN 823 - frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia
Marr: 13 DEC 842 - Crecy, France
Died: 6 OCT 877 - Brides Les Bains, Bourgogne
Father: Louis I "The Pious", Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Mother: Judith, Princess of Bavaria
Other Spouses:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Wife
Ermentrude (Irmtrud), Countess of Orleans
Born: 27 SEP 830 - Orleans, Neustria
Died: 6 OCT 869 -
Father: Eudes, Count of Orleans
Mother: Ingeltrude, Countess of Orleans
Other Spouses:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Children
Hersent, Duchess of Lorraine
Born: ABT 865 - Lorraine, France
Marr: 889
Died: -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Louis II "The Stammerer", King of France
Born: 1 NOV 843 - France
Marr: 875(other spouses) - Adbelahide, Queen of France
Died: 10 APR 879 - Compiaegne, Neustria
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Judith, Princess of France
Born: 844 - France
Marr: 859 - Baudouin I, Count of Flanders
Died: AFT 870 -

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Charles II The Bald, b 823 - Frankfurt, Prussia URL: http://www.treetracer.com/trees/Hall&Stantonweb_file/gp295.htm

Husband
Rainer (Regnier) I, Duke of Lorraine
Born: ABT 860 - France
Marr: 889 -
Died: 916 -
Father: Giselbert, Count of the Moselle (Maasgau)
Mother: Ermengarde (Irmgard), Duchess of the Moselle
Other Spouses: Alberade de Lorraine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Wife
Hersent, Duchess of Lorraine
Born: ABT 865 - Lorraine, France
Died: -
Father: Charles II "The Bald", Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Mother: Ermentrude (Irmtrud), Countess of Orleans
Other Spouses:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Children
Gilbert, Duke of Lorraine
Born: ABT 880 - Reims, Lorraine, France
Marr: - Gerberge, Queen of France
Died: 2 OCT 939 - Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia

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Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I19411
# D: I19411
# Name: Rainer I of BRABANT 1 2 3 4 5
# Sex: M
# Title: Duke of Lorraine
# Birth: ABT 850 in Lorraine, France 1 2 3 4 5
# Death: 19 JAN 915/16 in Meersen, in the Palatine 1 2 3 4 5
# Ancestral File #: 9HMN-L5
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 5
# Change Date: 6 OCT 2001 2 3 4 5
# Note:

[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

2 SOUR S332582
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004

[daveanthes.FTW]

ALIA Reginar I, hr. Hennegau, ks. Lotaryngii, b c850, d 915/916
DATE 24 MAR 1999

OCCU Count of Hainaut ...
SOUR http://misc.traveller.com/ge nealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000047.htm#I1578;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 850 and place;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says ABT 870;
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), 28 says ABT 916, Meersen, in the Palatine;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 153 says 915/916;
GWALTNEY.ANC (Compuserve) 1016090052
SOUR CHARLE.TXT (Compuserve);
COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 28;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 49, 153, 274
Count of Lorraine - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Lay Abbot of Echternach, Luxem-
bourg - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart p. 49; Duke of Lorraine,
Count of Hainault - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 153; Liv
886-900 - p. 274; Count in Hainaul - HAWKINS.GED; Ranier I de Lorraine - http:
//misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000044.htm#I1423

Father: Gilbert Count of BRABANT b: ABT 825 in Hainault, Netherlands
Mother: Ermengarde Duchess of MOSELLE b: ABT 830 in Alsace, Lorraine, France

Marriage 1 Ermentrud or Hersent of FRANKS b: ABT 854 in Lorraine, France

* Married: 889 1 2 3 4 5

Children

1. Has Children Symphorienne of LORRAINE b: 888 in Hainaut, Belgium
2. Has Children Duke of Lorraine GISELBERT b: ABT 890 in Reims, Lorraine, France
3. Has Children Rainer II Count HAINAULT b: ABT 892 in France

Sources:

1. Title: daveanthes.FTW
Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
Note: Source Media Type: Other
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Book
Text: Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
2. Title: daveanthes.FTW
Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
Note: Source Media Type: Other
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Book
Text: Date of Import: Jan 13, 2004
3. Title: Spare.FTW
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Other
Text: Date of Import: Jan 18, 2004
4. Title: Spare.FTW
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Other
Text: Date of Import: 21 Jan 2004
5. Title: Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Other
Text: Date of Import: Feb 6, 2004

#Générale#Incertain: certains auteurs l'appelle Hersent de France ou Alberade de Mons.

#Générale#Incertain : certains auteurs l'appellent Hersent de FRANCEou Albéradede MONS.

{geni:occupation} Dame de Mons, Comtesse de Hainaut, Comtesse d'Alsace, de Mons, Nun, Princess of France

{geni:about_me} Hersenda (Hersinde, Hersent)

Parents: unknown

Spouse: Rainier I Longneck, Comte de Hainaut

No children

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20%28LOWER%29%20NOBILITY.htm#ReginarIdied915

HERSENDA, daughter of ---. "Ragenarius comes…et coniuge mea Hersenda" confirmed the donation of revenue from "Sathanacense atque Mousense" to Saint-Dagobert de Stenay made by "Carolus…Augustus Imperiali" by charter dated to after 886[19].

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There appear to be problematic loops / merges /splits /duplicates being made on the RORICON I to III & the GOSLIN I to III lines because of same name ancestors. As far as I can see, and I've included the references below - it should look like this below.

If you disagree with the data, please contact the profile manager and enter your references below, so we can get it right together:

As a ‘starting off’ point, this is how it seems at the moment (December 2010) – Thanks, Sharon Doubell:

5. GOZLIN III (c860-907/914) m GODEHILDE CAROLINGIAN (c865)

4. Gozlin III was the son of RORICON III (c833-865), who had a sister BILICHILDE ii (832-858)

3. Roricon III & Bilichilde ii's parents were RORICON II (c808-858) m BILICHILDE i (c810)

2. Roricon II's parents were RORICON I (c770) m ROTRUDE CAROLINGIAN (c775 -6/6/1810)

1. Roricon I's parent was GOSLIN I (c740)

2. Goslin I's other son - ie Roricon I's brother - was GOSLIN II (c775-826) m ADELTRUDE CAROLINGIAN (c790)

3. Goslin II and Adeltrude had a son: DONALD, Count of Melun (c810-<860)

Note:
a. The Roricons I to III seem to get mixed because the Bilichilde mother and daughter (wife & sister) get conflated.
b. The Gozlins I to III seem to get conflated because Gozlin III is not in the direct line from Gozlin II, but comes through the 3 Roricons. (Also Roricon II has a brother Goslin (804) who doesn't have a number - possibly dying young?)
c. Adeltrude Carolingian and Rotrude Carolingian appear to become conflated, and I'm still unsure that the data we are using here is the correct version of that.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://fjaunais.free.fr/h0maine.htm&ei=NpwHTfPUEJOBhQfP97DuBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CE4Q7gEwBzgU&prev=/search%3Fq%3Droricon%2Bdu%2Bmain%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26prmd%3Div

Segundo o GeneWeb, a esposa de Godofredo (Godefroi) seria Godehilde (inicialmente identificada como XX) que seria filha de Girard du Maine, comte de Lassois en Avallon e Wandelgarde de Porthois
ver em http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=2436572

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Data From Lynn Jeffrey Bernhard, 2445 W 450 South #4, Springville UT 84663-4950
email - (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)

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The Franks, as they are known today, were a Germanic tribe who eventually became the French. They came to inhabit the former wealthy Roman provinces of Gaul and became the most powerful of the Germanic tribes. It was the Franks who created the strongest and most stable barbarian kingdom in the days after the Western Roman Empire had collapsed.
The name "Frank" is closely related to the word that means "fierce" or "free" in the Frankish language. From a linguistic point of view, the most direct descendants of the Franks are the Dutch and the Flemish-speakers of Belgium. The early Franks were a loose confederation of tribes who shared a similar culture. Tribal loyalty came before loyalty to the confederation and because of this the confederation was extremely weak.
The concept of the Franks as a people was first realized under the reign of the Merovingian dynasty. The Merovingians took their name from the chief of the tribe, Merovech (Merowen), who was one of the leaders (reguli) of the Salian Franks. Merovich and his successor, Childeric, (d. 481), extended Frankish dominion as far south as the Somme River.
Childeric was the father of Clovis (481-511), the first ruler of the Merovingian dynasty. Clovis was a ruthless warrior and he and his immediate successors destroyed all resistance within their empire. He drove the Gallic Visigoths into Spain and absorbed much of the Burgundian kingdom as well as much of the territory of the Alemanni into his kingdom. In addition, Clovis also converted to Orthodox Christianity, an act which made him king of the Franks in the eyes of the pope.
After AD 700, the Merovingians gradually lost control of the Frankish kingdom to the Carolingians, a family of ambitious landowners who served as court advisors to the Merovingians. Frankish troops secured the fate of Christian Europe in the Battle of Tours , in which the Muslim forces were defeated by the Carolingian general Charles Martel (Charles the Hammer).
Pepin the Short, son of Charles Martel, became king with the votes of the Frankish nobles and papal approval. In return for this ecclesiastic recognition, Pepin crushed the Lombards of Italy and gave the newly conquered lands to the pope. These territories later became the Papal states and this agreement is known as the Donation of Pepin.
However, the most notable of all the Frankish rulers was Charlemagne (Charles the Great) . He built up a capable bureaucracy, a fair judicial system, and revived the arts. he was also the ruler of a vast domain that was gained by his military exploits. Charlemagne followed up his victories in these areas by converting most of the people to Christianity and he was justly honored for his military and religious activities. On Christmas day of the year AD 800, Pope Leo III (795-816) crowned Charlemagne "Charles Augustus, Emperor of the Romans," and made him the first Holy Roman Emperor.
The end of the Carolingian era began in 843 when Charlemagne's grandsons divided the empire into three parts, and thus hastened the splintering of Western Europe into smaller kingdoms.
Sources:
Simons, Gerald. Barbarian Europe ((New York, NY; Time Life Books, 1971)
Randers-Pehrson, Justine Davis. Barbarians and Romans (Norman, OK; University of Oklahoma, 1983)
James, Edward. The Franks (New York, NY; Basil Blackwell, 1988)

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