{geni:job_title} Comte, de Bar, de Montbéliard, d'Altkirch, de Ferrette, de Verdun
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Hij is getrouwd met Ermentrude de Bourgogne.
Zij zijn getrouwd rond 1076.
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#Générale#Comte d'Altkirch, de Bar, de Monbéliard, de Mousson, de Ferrette et de Verdun. Armes: d'or à la bande de gueules. Fonda l'Abbaye de Ste-Waubourg (Bénédictins) près de Haguenau en Alsace.
{geni:occupation} Comte de Montbéliard, Bar-le-Duc, Pfirt-sur-Ferrette, Mousson et en Altkirch, Count of Montbéliard, Greve av Montbéliard och Bar, Herre av Mousson och greve av Verdun, Comte, de Bar, de Montbéliard, d'Altkirch, de Ferrette, de Verdun
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=Theodoric II of Bar=
*1045 - 1105
*Birth 1045 Montbeliard, Doubs, Franche-Comte, France
*Gender Male
*Died 02 Jan 1105 Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Lorraine, France
*Person ID I2093 Our Family Tree
*Last Modified 13 Aug 2008 12:08:10
*Father Louis II of Montbeliard, b. 1019, Montbeliard, Doubs, Franche-Comte, France
*Mother Sophia of Bar-le-Duc, b. 1025, Lorraine, France
*Family ID F2859 Group Sheet
*Family Ermentrude of Burgundy, b. 1055
===Children ===
>1. Theodoric III of Montbeliard, b. 1076, Montbeliard, Doubs, Franche-Comte, France
>2. Reginald I of Bar, b. 1090, Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Lorraine, France
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http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#ThierryIdied1105B
THIERRY de Mousson, son of LOUIS Comte de Mousson & his wife Sophie of Upper Lotharingia ([1045]-1/2 Jan 1103, bur Autun Cathedral). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Theodericum" as son of "comiti Montionis Ludovico" and his wife Sophie[67]. "Filia Wilelmi comitis de Burgundia Hermentrudis…" founded the Cluniac abbey of Froidefontaine by charter dated 8 Mar 1105 in which she names "suis antecessoribus…Lodewico, Sophia eius uxore, et filiis eorum Brunone, Theoderico, Lodewico, Friderico, filiabus vero Mathilde, Sophia, Beatrice…"[68]. On his marriage, he entered into possession of the château and seigneurie de Montbéliard[69]. He succeeded his father in [1071/76] in his territories of Altkirch, Ferrette, and around Hagenau. He was present at the 1076 enfranchisement of the chapel in the castle of Amance[70]. He inherited the region of the future county of Bar from his mother in 1093. He had taken a vow to join the First Crusade but was released from it due to illness. He was invested as Comte de Verdun after 1096 by Richer Bishop of Verdun[71]. He dictated his testament in 1102 at the castle of Altkirch[72]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul records the death "1 Jan" of "Henricus et Theodoricus comites"[73].
m ([1065]) ERMENTRUDE de Bourgogne heiress of Montbéliard, daughter of GUILLAUME I "le Grand" Comte Palatin de Bourgogne & his wife Etiennette --- ([1050/55][74]-1106 or after, bur Autun Cathedral). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ermentrudem" as wife of "Theodericum [filius comiti Montionis Ludovico]" specifying that she was heiress to Montbéliard[75]. "Filia Wilelmi comitis de Burgundia Hermentrudis et filii sui Fridericus, Raginaudus, Theodericus" founded the Cluniac abbey of Froidefontaine by charter dated 8 Mar 1105 in which she names "suis antecessoribus…Lodewico, Sophia eius uxore, et filiis eorum Brunone, Theoderico, Lodewico, Friderico, filiabus vero Mathilde, Sophia, Beatrice, filiis autem Theoderici atque sue uxoris Hermentrudis, Lodewico, Wilelmo, Hugone", witnessed by "Henricus de Suarca cum genero suo Gerunch, Gotefridus filius avunculi eiusdem comitis [Friderici]"[76]. It is assumed from the expression "suis antecessoribus" that all those so described were deceased at the date of the foundation. She subscribed her son Renaud's act of sale of the fortress of Commercy to the abbé de Saint-Mihiel in 1106[77].
Comte Thierry & his wife had ten children:
* 1. FREDERIC de Mousson ([1074/78]-19 Jul [1160], bur Oelenberg).
* 2. RENAUD de Mousson ([1075/77]-1149).
* 3. THIERRY de Mousson ([1076/78]-[mid-Jan] 1163).
* 4. LOUIS de Mousson ([1077/79]-murdered 1102).
* 5. ETIENNE de Mousson (-Metz 29 Dec 1162, bur Metz Cathedral).
* 6. GUILLAUME de Mousson (-before 8 Mar 1105).
* 7. HUGUES de Mousson (-before 8 Mar 1105).
* 8. GUNTHILDE de Mousson (-21 Feb 1131).
* 9. AGNES de Mousson (-after 1140).
* 10. MATHILDE de Mousson .
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http://www.mathematical.com/barthierry2.html
=Thierry II (Dietrich I) Count De Bar & Montbeliard=
*born 1045? Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France; died 2 January 1105
*father: Louis II Compte de Mousson Seigneur of Montbeliard & St. Mihel; born about 1004 Mousson, Lower Alsace, France; died 1065
*mother:Sophie Comtesse de Bar; born about 1018/25 Upper Louvain, France; died 21 January 1092
===siblings:===
# Brunon Montbelliard born 1030? Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France
# Louis Montbelliard born about 1056 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died after 1105
# Frederic Luxembourg born about 1058 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died 29 June 1092
# Mathilde Montbelliard born about 1056 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died after 1105
# Sophie Montbelliard born about 1062 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died after 1105
# Beatrix Montbelliard born about 1064 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died 25 October 1092
*spouse: Ermentrude De Bourgogne; born 1060? Bourgogne, France; died after 08 March 1105
*married about 1076 Normandy, France
===children:===
# *Renaud I Count De Bar born about 1077 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France; died 10 Mar 1149
# Louis Mortbell born about 1079 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died after 21 May 1096
# *Thierry III Count De Bar born about 1079 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died 1112
# Frederic De Bar born about 1081 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France
# Guillaume De Bar born about 1083 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France
# Etienne Mortbell born about 1085 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France died 31 December 1163
# Agnes De Bar born about 1087 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France
# Gunthilde Mortbell born about 1089 Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, France
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http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p177.htm#i5308
'''Thibaud III, Count of Bar'''1
*M, b. circa 1045, d. between 2 February 1102 and 1105
*Father'''Ludwig II, Count of Bar''' b. 1019, d. 1067
*Mother'''Sophia of Bar''' b. 1018, d. 21 Jan 1093
*ChartsDescendants of Charlemagne
* Thibaud III, Count of Bar Also Count of Mousson, Ferrette, Verdun, Seigneur of Montbeliard, and Landgraf in Alsace. He was born circa 1045 at of Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, France.
*He married '''Ermentrude of Burgundy''', daughter of Guillaume II 'the Great', Comte de Franche Comte, Burgundy, Macon, & Vienne, Lord of Salms and Stephanie de Longwy, in 1076 at of Normandy, France.2
*Thibaud III, Count of Bar died between 2 February 1102 and 1105.
*Family Ermentrude of Burgundy b. c 1060, d. a 8 Mar 1105
*Children
# Mathilda of Bar+
# Dietrich II, Graf von Mömpelgard+ d. Jan 1163
# Friedrich I, Graf von Mömpelgard, Pfirt, & Amance+ d. 19 Jul 1160
# Ludwig von Bar1 d. 1105 or 1106
# Stephan von Bar1 d. 30 Dec 1162
# Hugo von Bar1 d. a 8 Feb 1105
# Gunthilde von Bar1 d. 21 Feb 1131
# Wilhelm von Bar1 d. a 8 Feb 1105
# Agnes de Bar+ b. c 1082, d. a 1147
# Renaud I, Count of Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Brie, & Verdun+ b. c 1090, d. 10 Apr 1149
*Citations
# [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. I/2, Tafel 226.
# [S54] Middle & Far East Families, Burgundy.
PED FROM ELIZABETH ANN KELSO - BORN 27 JUN 1926
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