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Father: Lambert II DE NANTES b: 795
Mother: Théodrate of FRANCE b: 800

Marriage 1 Rotrude DE GERMANIE b: 836

* Married: 855 1 2 3 4

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1. Has Children Wipert Ou Wibert DE NANTES b: 860

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{geni:occupation} Comte de Nantes
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'''Relationships'''

Parents:
*Father: Lambert I Marchese and Duke of Spoleto.(d. 30 December 836, Present Canton Ticino, southern Switzerland, during an earthquake)
*Mother: One of four daughters of Pepin I, King of Italy and son of Charlemagne: Adula, Guntrada, Bertrade, or Theodrada (fl. 810)

Siblings:
*2. Doda (d. after 846), Abbess of Saint-Clément at Nantes and at Craon
*3. Guido or Wido II (d. c860) Duke and Count of Spoleto, Lord of the Abruzzi, father of Lambert II Duke of Spoleto-Camerino, Guido I King of Italy, and Rothildis wife of Adalbert I Marchese of Tuscany
*4. Werner or Warnarius (d. 853, executed) Comte in Bretagne
*5. Unknown father of Guido IV Duke of Spoleto and Prince of Benevento, and Itta wife of Guaimar of Salerno
*6. Unknown parent of Konrad (m. Ermengunde)
*7. Unknown parent of Gunferio, Seigneur d'Erbauges in Bretagne
*8. Itta (d. Nov or Dec 849, m. Siconulf, Prince of Salerno)

Spouse:
* Rotrude, possibly daughter of Emperor Lothaire I

Children:
*1. Wicbert or Witbert (d. 883) Possibly Comte d'Ormois

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands Project page for Central Italy (covering his birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20ITALY.htm#Lambertdied852A

LAMBERT, son of WIDO Comte et Marquis de Nantes & his wife --- (-Ticino 30 Dec 836).
*The primary source which confirms the parentage of Lambert has not yet been identified.
*He succeeded as Count of the Breton march. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Walam et Warnarium, necnon et Lambertum sed et Ingobertum" as missi [in 813], recording that "Warnarius comes…accito nepote Lantberto" acted without the knowledge of "Wala et Ingelberto"[809]. He was expelled from Aachen with his uncle Werner in 814 by King Louis I after the death of Emperor Karl I, Werner being killed in the conflict which followed[810]. The forces of "Count Lambert" defeated and killed Wihomarc who had rebelled in Brittany in 825[811].
*"Lambert" was one of the supporters of the rebellion of co-Emperor Lothar I in 833/34, and consequently lost his position in the Breton march[812].
*The Annales Fuldenses record fighting with "Mahtfredo et Lantberto", during which battle "Uodo comes Aurelianensium et Theodo abbas sancti Martini Turonensis" were killed[813]. In 834 he was sent to Italy where Lothar gave him land and installed him as LAMBERT I Marchese and Duke of Spoleto.
*The Annales Fuldenses record the earthquake at Ticino in Italy "837 III Kal Ian" in which "plures ex primoribus Italiæ" were killed including "Lantbertus et Hugus"[814]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][815].

m [--- of Italy, daughter of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress ---.
*According to Winkhaus[816], one of the last four daughters of Pepin King of Italy married Lambert Comte de Nantes, but the source on which this is based has not been identified.]

Comte Lambert & his wife had [eight] children:

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1. '''LAMBERT''' (-killed in battle 1 May 852, bur Savenai).

The Chronicon Fontanellensis names "Lambertus comes et Wernarius frater eius" when recording that they fought in Brittany[817] but the primary source which specifies Lambert's parentage explicitly has not yet been identified.

He established himself as Comte de Nantes in 843, asserting his independence from Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks, and distributed the honores of the Breton march among his supporters.

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2. DODA (-after [846]).
*"Soror Lamberti…Doda" is named "S Clementis civitatis Nanneticæ Monasterio…Abbatissa" in an undated passage[818].
*Abbess of Saint-Clément at Nantes and at Craon [846]. The Chronicle of Nantes names "Lamberti soror…Doda" as abbess of St Clement, Nantes[819].

3. GUIDO [Wido] (-[860]).
*The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.
*He accompanied Emperor Lothar north of the Alps in 840 and was granted Kloster Mettlach, but renounced it in 842 before returning to Italy[820].
*He was invested in 842 as GUIDO II Duke and Count of Spoleto, Lord of the Abruzzi. He supported his brother-in-law Siconulf Prince of Salerno in his war with Radelchis Prince of Benevento[821].
*m ([843/44]) ---. The name and origin of Guido´s wife is not known.
*Duke Guido & his wife had three children: Lambert II (845/850-880) Duke of Spoleto-Camerino, Guido I (855-894) King of Italy (or Guido III Duke of Spoleto), and Rothildis (d. 884) wife of Adalbert I Marchese of Tuscany.

4. WERNER [Warnarius] (-executed 853).
*The Chronicon Fontanellensis names "Lambertus comes et Wernarius frater eius" when recording that they fought in Brittany and that Werner was captured by "Gausberto comite"[843].
*Comte en Bretagne.

5. [--- .
*The identity of the father of Guido IV Duke of Spoleto and his sister Ita is not known. Their descent from Lambert I Marchese and Duke of Spoleto is confirmed by the Chronica Mon. Casinensis which records that Ita´s grandson "Gisulfus…Salernitanus princeps filius Guaimarii" donated property possessed by "Lambertus dux et marchio…in comitatu Marsicano, et Balva, et Forcone, et Amiterno, necnon et marchia Firmana et ducatu Spoletino" to the monastery[844].
*The estimated birth date attributed to Ita means that it is unlikely that she could have been the daughter of a brother of Emperor Guido. The most likely possibility is therefore that they were the children of one of the emperor´s paternal uncles, possibly the same person as one of the other possible sons of Lambert I who are shown in this document.
*m ---.] Two children: Guido IV (d. 897) Duke of Spoleto and Prince of Benevento, and Itta (c865-897/898) wife of Guaimar of Salerno

6. [---. m ---.]
*[One child]: Konrad (d. before 926, m. Ermengunde)

7. [---. m ---.]
*One child: Gunferio, Seigneur d'Erbauges, Brittany

8. [ITTA (-after [Nov/Dec] 849).
*The Chronicon Salernitanum names "Sikenolfus…suæ coniugis Ittæ" when recording that she survived her husband[853]. The origin of Prince Siconulf's wife is not known.
*Erchempert names "Guido dux Spoletanorum, Siconulfi cognatus" when recording that the former attacked the latter, dated to [843/43][854]. The Chronicon Salernitanum also names "Sikenolfus…suum cognatum Guidonem" when recording the same event[855]. This has been interpreted in two ways. Hlawitschka and Bougard proposed that the relationship indicated was that Guido of Spoleto had married a sister of Siconulf, daughter of Sico I Prince of Benevento[856]. On the other hand, Taviani Carozzi and Settipani considered that the correct interpretation was that Siconulf´s wife was Guido´s sister[857], and therefore Itta di Spoleto, daughter of . Stasser approves the principle argument in favour of the latter hypothesis, which is based on the Chronicon Salernitanum recording the marriages of three of the daughters of "Sico princeps" and adding that the author could not remember the husbands of the others[858], and the unlikelihood that a marriage of one daughter with Guido of Spoleto would have been forgotten. The difficulty with both hypotheses is the assumption that "cognatus" should be interpreted only as meaning "brother-in-law", although the word could indicate a more remote family relationship.
*m SICONULF Prince of Salerno, son of SICO I Prince of Benevento & his wife --- (-Salerno [Nov/Dec] 849).]

References:

*[809] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 21, MGH SS II, p. 618.
*[810] Mitterauer, Michael Karolingische Marken in Südosten, p. 69.
*[811] RFA 825, p. 117.
*[812] Scholz, B. W. with Rogers, B. (2000) Carolingian Chronicles: Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories (University of Michigan Press) (“Nithard”) I.5, p. 135, and McKitterick (1983), p. 266.
*[813] Annales Fuldenses 834, MGH SS I, p. 360.
*[814] Annales Fuldenses 837, MGH SS I, p. 360.
*[815] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 56, MGH SS II, p. 642.
*[816] Winkhaus, E. 'Ahnen zu Karl dem Großen und Widukind' in 765 (773) Ahnenstämmen (1950-53), cited in Rösch, p. 67. This marriage is not in Settipani (1993), p. 212.
*[817] Chronicon Fontanellense 850, MGH SS II, p. 303.
*[818] Historia Britanniæ Armoricæ, RHGF VII, p. 48, the date 844 added in the margin by the editor next to a preceding passage.
*[819] Merlet, R. (ed.) (1896) La chronique de Nantes (Paris) X, p. 29.
*[820] Lexikon des Mittelalters, Band IX, p. 67.
*[821] Thiele, Band II, Teilband 2, Tafel 389.
*[843] Chronicon Fontanellense 850, MGH SS II, p. 303.
*[844] Leonis Marsicani, Chronica Monasterii Casinensis II.6, MGH SS VII, p. 707.
*[853] Chronicon Salernitanum 92, MGH SS III, p. 514.
*[854] Erchemperti Historia Langobardorum 17, MGH SS III, p. 247.
*[855] Chronicon Salernitanum 82, MGH SS III, p. 509.
*[856] Stasser (2008), p. 384, citing Hlawitschka, E. ´Waren die Kaiser Wido und Lambert Nachkommen Karls des Großen?´, Quellen und Forschungen aus italienischen Archiven und Bibliotheken, Vol. 63 (1969), pp. 366-86, 384 note 64, and Bougard, F. ´La cour et le gouvernement de Louis II (840-875)´, Le Jan, R. (ed.) (1998) La royauté et les élites dans l´Europe carolingienne (Villeneuve d´Ascq), p. 254 note 26.
*[857] Stasser (2008), p. 384, citing Taviani Carozzi, H. (1991) La principauté lombarde de Salerne (IX-XI siècle), 2 Vols. (Rome), pp. 340-4, and Settipani, C. (1998) Les Widonides. Le destin d´une famille aristocratique franque au VIe au Xe siècle (Paris), p. 50.
*[858] Chronicon Salernitanum 55, MGH SS III, p. 496.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands Project page on Brittany:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#_Toc284059607

LAMBERT, son of LAMBERT I Marchese and Duke of Spoleto & his wife [--- of Italy] (-killed in battle 1 May 852, bur Savenai).
*He established himself as Comte de Nantes in 843, asserting his independence from Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks, and distributed the honores of the Breton march among his supporters. The Chronicle of Nantes records how "Lambertus" acquired the county of Nantes in 843[741].
*The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Rainoldus Arbatilicensis comes" was defeated and killed by "Lanberto Nannetis comite", but that Nantes was captured "a Wefaldingis" in the same year[742]. The Chronica Rainaldi records that "Lamberti comitis" was granted Nantes after "Rainaldo…comite Nannetensium" was killed in 843 fighting "Herispoium, Noremoi filium at alios Britannos apud Metiacum"[743]. "Vivianus comes" donated property "in pago Andecavense secus fluvium Ligeris…Cunaldus" to Tournus Saint-Philibert by charter dated 27 Dec 845, signed by "Lambertus comes, Raino…"[744].
*He was deprived of Nantes in Jul 846 by Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks and given the county of Anjou in exchange[745]. He was subsequently charged by the official charged by the king with the protection of these territories[746].
*The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Nomenoius dux" captured and destroyed "Redonas civitatem et Nannetis" before returning to Brittany, the event being dated from the context to the early 850s[747].
*The Annales Engolismenses record that "Lambertus" was killed "852 Kal Mai" by "Gausberto"[748]. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Lanbertus comes Nannetansium" was killed by "Gauzberto Cenomannensium comite", the event being dated from the context to the early 850s[749]. The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence records that "Lambertus comes Namnetensium" was killed fighting "Gauberto comite Cenomannensium" in 852[750]. The Chronicon Fontanellensis names "Lambertus comes et Wernarius frater eius" when recording that they fought in Brittany and that Werner was captured by "Gausberto comite"[751]. Regino names "Lambertus qui ducatum tenebat inter Ligerim et Sequanam" recording in 860 that he killed "Vivianum", but was himself killed by "Gauzbertus comes", the latter being beheaded by "iussi Caroli"[752]. He was killed on the orders of King Charles II, and was succeeded in the Breton march by Count Vivian, lay abbot of Tours[753].
*Lambert was buried "apud Saponarias Andagavensis territorii"[754].

m ([850/51]) ROTRUDE, daughter of ---.
*"Witbertus…comes" donated property at Ornois to the abbey of Tournus, for the souls of "Lanberti genitoris mei necnon et Rutrudis genetricis meæ", by charter dated 28 Jan 870[755].
*Hlawitschka suggests that she was Rotrude, daughter of Emperor Lothaire I, as her son's charter dated 28 Jan 870 records that the property he donated to the abbey of Tournus had been granted to his father by Emperor Lothaire[756]. However, the copy of the charter reproduced in the Histoire de Tournus, cited above, states that the property had been donated to Wicbert by "senioris mei Hlotharii Regis".

Lambert & his wife had one child:

a) WICBERT [Witbert] (-murdered 883).
*"Witbertus…comes" donated property "Rodonionem…in comitatu Odornensi" (Ornois), donated to him by "senioris mei Hlotharii Regis", to the abbey of Tournus, for the souls of "Lanberti genitoris mei necnon et Rutrudis genetricis meæ", by charter dated 28 Jan 870[757].
*[Comte d'Ornois.] The Annales Fuldenses names "Wicberto comite fraudulentissimo" when recording advice he gave to Charles III King of the East Franks regarding a Viking attack in 882[758]. "Hildebertus filius quondam Berengarii comitis" donated property "res…mee in comitatu Vuabrinse prope fluvio…Cherus villam…Beuram" for "germano meo Berengario" to Verdun Sainte-Vanne by charter dated 18 Sep 882, subscribed by "Stephanus comes, Matfridus comes, Witpertus comes"[759].
*Regino names "Stephanus, Ruodbertus, Wicbertus, Thietbaldus comites, Albricus et frater eius Stephanus" recording that they opposed "Hugo filius Hlotharii" in France in 883, specifying that Wicbert was killed by Hugo[760].
*m (883) as her third husband, FRIDERADA, widow firstly of ENGUERRAND, secondly of BERNARIUS, daughter of ---. Regino names "Friderada" as wife of "Engilrammo ex qua filiam quam postmodem Richwinus comes in coniugem accepti", also referring to her subsequent marriages[761]. "Hugo filius Lotharii Regis" had "Wicbertum comitem" murdered and married his wife "Frideradam" in 883[762]. She married fourthly (883) Hugues, illegitimate son of Lothaire II King of Lotharingia.
*Wicbert & his wife had one child: Wicbert.

References:

*[741] Chronique de Nantes VII and VIII, pp. 18-22.
*[742] Adémar de Chabannes III, 17, p. 133.
*[743] Chronica domni Rainaldi archidiaconi sancti Mauricii Andegavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 5.
*[744] Juenin, P. (1733) Nouvelle histoire de l´abbaye royale et collégiale de Saint-Filibert et de la ville de Tournus (Dijon) ("Tournus Saint-Philibert"), Preuves, p. 82.
*[745] Chronique de Nantes IV, p. 9 footnote 4.
*[746] McKitterick (1983), p. 266, although the author assumes this refers to Lambert's father, previously count of the Breton march, who was already dead by then.
*[747] Adémar de Chabannes III, 18, p. 135.
*[748] Annales Engolismenses 852, MGH SS XVI, p. 486.
*[749] Adémar de Chabannes III, 18, p. 135.
*[750] Chronicon sancti Maxentii Pictavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 366.
*[751] Chronicon Fontanellense 850, MGH SS II, p. 303.
*[752] Reginonis Chronicon 860, MGH SS I, p. 570.
*[753] McKitterick (1983), p. 266.
*[754] Historia Britanniæ Armoricæ, RHGF VII, p. 49.
*[755] Chifflet, P. F. (1644) Histoire de l´abbaye royale et de la ville de Tournus (Dijon), Preuves, p. 212.
*[756] Settipani (1993), p. 265, citing Hlawitschka, E. 'Waren die Kaiser Wido und Lambert Nachkommen Karls des Grossen?', Quellen und Forschungen aus italienischen Archiven und Bibliotheken 49 (1969), pp. 366-86.
*[757] Chifflet, P. F. (1644) Histoire de l´abbaye royale et de la ville de Tournus (Dijon), Preuves, p. 212, and Tournus Saint-Philibert, p. 87.
*[758] Annales Fuldensium Pars Quarta, auctore anonymo 882, MGH SS I, p. 396.
*[759] Bloch, H. (ed.) ´Die älteren Urkunden des Klosters S. Vanne zu Verdun´, Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde, 10th year, (1898) (“Verdun Sainte-Vanne), p. 384.
*[760] Reginonis Chronicon 883, MGH SS I, p. 594.
*[761] Reginonis Chronicon 883, MGH SS I, p. 594.
*[762] Chronico Saxonico 883, RHGF IX, p. 36.

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'''Lambert III of Nantes'''

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Lambert III was the pretender to the County of Nantes between 851 and his death in 862.

Lambert was the '''son of Lambert II of Nantes''', at whose death in 851, the administration of the region fell effectively to the Bretons. His mother was '''Tetrata of Lombardy''', a daughter of the eldest son of Charlemagne, Pepin of Italy. Lambert III married '''Rotrude of Italy''', a daughter of Holy Roman Emperor Lothair I. The Emperor was a first cousin of Lambert's mother, as both were grandchildren of Charlemagne.

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