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• Hij is geboren rond 1755.
• Hij is overleden in het jaar 1880 in Gross Glogau, Liegnitz, Silesia, Poland.

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Hij had een relatie met Miss LOVEL.

Kind(eren):

1. Gabriel Friedenthal  1774-1851 
2. Afmann Mareb Hennoch FRIEDENTHAL  ± 1775-???? 
3. Markus Mordechai Baer Friedenthal  1779-1859 
4. Simon Marcus Friedenthal  1782-1832 
5. Salomon Friedenthal  ± 1790-1842 
6. Emil Friedenthal  ± 1800-???? 

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most DNA matches from Poland.

J1c3 As a basic observation, since the discovery of haplogroup J (often referred to as EU10 in older studies) it has generally been recognized that it shows signs of having originated in or near the Middle East. The frequency and diversity of both J1 and J2 in that region makes them candidates as genetic markers of the spread of farming technology during the Neolithic, which is proposed to have had a major impact upon human populations. J1c3 is very prevalent in many areas where J1 is common, especially in parts of North Africa and throughout the Arabian peninsula, but notably it is not common amongst the J1 populations in the Caucasus, and it also only makes up approximately 70% of the J1 amongst the Amhara of Ethiopia. might have first dispersed during the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B period, "from a geographical zone, including northeast Syria, northern Iraq and eastern Turkey toward Mediterranean Anatolia, Ismaili from southern Syria, Jordan, Palestine and northern Egypt". Specifically they propose that the Zarzian Material [hardware] culture may be ancestral. They also propose that this movement of people may also be linked to the dispersal of semitic languages by hunter-herders, who moved into arid areas during periods known to have had low rainfall. Thus while other haplogroups including J2 moved out of the area with agriculturalists who followed the rainfall, populations carrying J1 remained with their flocks. after the initial neolithic expansion involving Semitic languages, which possibly reached as far as Yemen, a more recent dispersal occurred during the Chalcolithic or Early Bronze Age (approximately 30005000 BCE), and this involved the branch of Semitic which leads to the Arabic language. The authors propose that this involved a spread of some J1c3 from the direction of Syria towards Arab populations of the Arabian Peninsula and Negev. after the initial neolithic expansion involving Semitic languages, which possibly reached as far as Yemen, a more recent dispersal occurred during the Chalcolithic or Early Bronze Age (approximately 30005000 BCE), and this involved the branch of Semitic which leads to the Arabic language. The authors propose that this involved a spread of some J1c3 from the direction of Syria towards Arab populations of the Arabian Peninsula and Negev.
Large match with Caucasus Circassian sub-group: Jarkas;Sharkas), also often known as Circassians or Cherkess,[8][9][10] are in origin a North Caucasian ethnic group [11][12][13] who were displaced in the course of the Russian conquest of the Caucasus in the 19th century, especially after the RussianCircassian War of 1862. Adyghe people mostly speak Circassian (called Adyghe in the west and Kabardin in the east), and most practice Sunni Islam. Middle East high but highest in Iraq (Nassiriya), and Assyria (Iraq), and Iran. In lavant & Jewish, highest in Bedouin in Negev, also Ismaili of Damascus and Cohanim Jews (not non-cohanim) and Jordan people. In Arabian peninsula, high everywhere esp, Yemen and Qatar.

I think the simplest hypothesis would be to speculate that our ancestor could have come to Iberia in 10th-11th century followng the decay of Jewish community in Babylonia and mostly left it following the 1492 events - but for some reason they mostly stayed in Europe instead of going to North Africa or Ottoman Empire like a majority of Sephardi Jews. A smaller sub-branch went to Benelux, while a much bigger one chose Germany and, subsequently, Eastern Europe. Yet another small sub-branch accepted Catholicism; suggested recently that we could be the descendants of some Yemeni Jewish tribe which refused to convert to Islam and moved to Europe. One of our project's members who deeply studies the genealogy of German Jews, has a hypothesis (which hasn't been proven so far but may turn out to be quite realistic) that our ancestors could have lived in the German town of Worms (a major medieval Jewish centre) as early as 11th century.

Here's the story about your Friedenthal line. It matches an Abarbanell and a Barbanel (both of whom I asked to test about 7 or 8 years ago when I started the project- and both of whom were reluctant to test. Since Abravanel is a known Sephardic family, I figured that it would be good to have the Abravanel Y-DNA in the project. Abravanel and Barbanel are both Ashknenazi Jews, not known to be related to each other, and they turned out to be a Y-DNA match. Unfortunately neither wanted to upgrade to more markers. I thought we had nailed the Abravanel Y-DNA, but here is the problem. It is rumored that some Aschkenazi families unrelated to the Sephardic Abravanels may have taken the surname Abravanel (and variants). Since there are no other Abravanels in the database, we don't know if the Abravanel and Barbanel project members are Sephardic or if they are descendant from an Aschkenazi who adopted the surname. Since Bill Yoffee is also a match, and he believes his surname is Sephardic (though he is Aschkenazi), there is a possibility that this cluster is Sephardic. But until we find a converso or a known Sephardic Abravanel, we won't know for sure.

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4 Jewish businesses in Berlin, Brandenburg, Germany 1933
Charlie Friedenthal
Artseide-Agency (Textil und Bekleidung)
Rayon Agency (textiles and clothing)
Eingetragen 1922, Liq.: 1937
NiederwallStr. 22 (Mitte)

Post wwe.. II application from (and b.) Vienna (7 HermannAlley) to USA: Friedenthal family--Karl b. 28;3;1884, Anna b. 11;4;1887, Otto b. 10;5;1932, Paul b. 19;4;1931. Jewish survivors who registered with the Emigration Department of JDC in Munich and Vienna after World War II for help in emigrating to countries other than Israel.

Adolph Friedenthal owned land in 1918 outside Phoenix 33.4138428739573,-112.500118318738 on S Verado Way.

Hans F, MD, b. Poznan, Wlkp., Poland 14 1 1900 to Palestine in 1938
Herbert F (changed to Freeden) b. Poznan, Wlkp., Poland 1909 to England 1951 and then to Israel.

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