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Persoonlijke gegevens Mahaut "Maud" de Châlon dame de Donzy 

• Roepnaam is Maud.
• Zij is geboren rond 968 in Châlons, ChampagneFrance.
• Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Beroepen:
• Dame, de Donzy.
• Senhora de Donzy.
• Zij is overleden in het jaar 1016 in Semur, Côte-d'Or, France.
• Een kind van Lambert de Chalon, De Dijon en Adélaïde N.N.
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 22 januari 2019.

Gezin van Mahaut "Maud" de Châlon dame de Donzy

Zij is getrouwd met Geoffroy de Semur.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 979 te France.

Kind(eren):

1. Thibault de Semur  ± 968-1065 
2. Blanche  ± 985-???? 
3. Lambert de Sémur  ± 960-???? 

Notities over Mahaut "Maud" de Châlon dame de Donzy

Still Living.

Still Living.

[3175] EDWARD3.TXT b 946

Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I19215
# ID: I19215
# Name: Gerard DE VERGY 1 2 3 4
# Sex: M
# Birth: ABT 954 in Vergy, France 1 2 3 4
# Death: 1023 1 2 3 4
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 4
# Change Date: 25 NOV 2001 2 3 4
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SOUR http://misc.traveller.com/ge nealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000009.htm#I1598

SOUR http://misc.traveller.com/ge nealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000009.htm#I1598

#Générale# Comte en Bourgogne.
ascendance dans H&G n 95 page 219

Father: Vualon DE VERGY b: ABT 940
Mother: Judith DE FOUVENT b: ABT 940

Marriage 1 Elizabeth DE CHALONS b: ABT 958 in Autun, Seine-et-Loire, France

Children

1. Has Children Aremburge DE VERGY b: ABT 980 in of, Verigny, Eure et Loir, France
2. Has Children Adélaïde DE VERGY b: 985
3. Has Children Robert DE VERGY b: ABT 990

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Maud/Matilda definitely married Geoffrey of Semur, but the well-respected German source ES, in one of its conflicting pedigrees, has her also marrying Henry, Duke of Burgundy, and having a daughter Aremburga, who was wife of Dalmas I of Semur. This is probably not true, and ES has been shown to be inconsistent and erroneous in giving the spouse(s) of Henry. The spouse of Henry was a widow of Adalbert I King of Italy, and there is still a lot of debate concerning who her father (and mother) were.
The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 16 May 1997, by Jim Stevens, referring to an earlier post by Mat on 29 Apr 1997: Matman posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 29 Apr 1997:
Subject: Re: Untangling the Burgundy web
"For English readers, the Bouchard article (p261ff) is essential to understanding this confusion in ES. French historians etc have peddled various theories: the ES has noted all of them, hence the internal disagreement. Some have favoured Leotald of Macon as the father of Gerberga, but Bouchard follows the more reliable ones (F.Lot, R.Poupardin etc) in seeing her as the daughter of Lambert. She lists 3 children of Lambert: Gerberga (m. 1) Adalbert (2) Henry; Matilda (m. Geoffrey), Hugo of Chalon. The sources clearly state that Matilda and Hugo were children of Lambert, but they don't mention the father of Gerberga.
The main argument for Gerberga being the daughter of Leotald is, I think, the fact that her great grandson Otto of Macon (not Otto-William) calls Leotald his _atavus_. The strict classical meaning of this is great-great-great-grandad, which would imply, that Gerberga was Leotald's grandaughter. However most who favour Leotald's parentage, have overlooked this inconvenient detail, and suggested that the term here just means distant ancestor.
The other evidence is the Life of Hugo of Chalon (d.1039) who says that his sister married the duke of Burgundy. This has been seen as Gerberga wife of Henry (d.1002). Those who favour Leotald as her father, say this sister was Matilda, who they say married Henry before she married Geoffrey of Semur. Thus if one rejects Lambert as the father of Gerberga, you have to invent a new wife for Duke Henry. I think ES III, 433-34 has these two marriages. Somewhere else in ES, it even gives this supposed marriage of Matilda and Henry a daughter, Aremburga, the wife of Dalmas I of Semur.

I havn't gone into all the various arguments, or evidence: its best to read Bouchard yourself, and decide whether you agree with her. Personally I prefer her no-nonsense approach, and the works of other notable historians (eg W.Kienast Die Herzogtitel in Frankreich & Deutschland, 1968) agree with her on the father of Gerberga being Lambert."

#Générale##Générale#Dame de Donzy.

#Générale##Générale#

{geni:about_me} Heiress of Chalons-sur-Seine, Dame de Donzy.

Alternative data from merges: Countess of Semur; b c940, d c1016 - Sharon April 2011
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Ben M. Angel notes: Just spent the better part of an hour trying to figure this profile out. Best I can figure is that the originator of this one figured she was the third unknown daughter of Lambert, Comte de Chalons and Adelais,likely daughter of Giselbert, Duc de Bourgogne, and future wife of Geoffroy I d'Anjou. Gerard would possibly be Guy, Comte de Macon.

But there is no way to know without a source. Anyone got one for this person?

from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

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