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Persoonlijke gegevens Yves "Governor of Creil" de Creil comte d'Alençon 

• Roepnaam is Governor of Creil.
• Hij is geboren rond 940 in Creil, Oise, Picardie, France.
• Beroepen:
• Sieur, de Château-Gontier.
• Balistier, de Louis IV.
• Comte, de Bellême, Sieur, d'Alençon, de Sées, de Domfront, Balistier, du Roi.
• Hij is overleden rond 1005 in Alencon, Orne, Normandy, France.
• Een kind van Fulcuin de Creil en Rothais (Rolais) de Corbonais

Gezin van Yves "Governor of Creil" de Creil comte d'Alençon

Hij is getrouwd met Godehildis.

Zij zijn getrouwd in het jaar 949 te Normandy,France.

Kind(eren):

1. Guillaume Talvas de Bellème et de Alençon  ± 970-1031 
2. Godehildis de Bellême  975-1035 
3. Hildeburge de Bellême  ± 975-1035 

Notities over Yves "Governor of Creil" de Creil comte d'Alençon

Source: University of Hull - Seigneur of Bellême & Alençon

sn de Bellême & Alençon

I 981 underskriver Yves et dokument sammen med sin hustru, Geila, og sin sønn Yves
som var erkebiskop av Mans. Han kaller seg vasall til Hugo av Frankrike, den senere Hugo
Capet. Hugo underskriver også sammen med sin hustru, Adelheid, og deres sønn Robert.
Dokumentet var utstedt for klosteret Homblières i Vermandois. Yves er utvilsomt den samme
som var gift med Godehildes (Goheu oeller Godeheu) og som stiftet Notre Dame de Bellème
ifølge et udatert dokument utstedt på Bellème slott 940-997.
Yves ga før 1005 Magny-le-Désert til klosteret Fleure-sur-Loire.
Yves angis å være død 997, men dette er usikkert.

Titled Count of Alençon and Domfront 2
Note: Received Alençon and Bellême as a gift of Richard II, Duke of Normandy; received Balistarius as a gift from Louis IV, King of France.

Titled Count of Alençon and Domfront 2
Note: Received Alençon and Bellême as a gift of Richard II, Duke of Normandy; received Balistarius as a gift from Louis IV, King of France

Titled Count of Alençon and Domfront 2
Note: Received Alençon and Bellême as a gift of Richard II, Duke of Normandy; received Balistarius as a gift from Louis IV, King of France.

Titled Count of Alençon and Domfront 2
Note: Received Alençon and Bellême as a gift of Richard II, Duke of Normandy; received Balistarius as a gift from Louis IV, King of France

Titled Count of Alençon and Domfront 2
Note: Received Alençon and Bellême as a gift of Richard II, Duke of Normandy; received Balistarius as a gift from Louis IV, King of France.

Titled Count of Alençon and Domfront 2
Note: Received Alençon and Bellême as a gift of Richard II, Duke of Normandy; received Balistarius as a gift from Louis IV, King of France

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[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!SEIGNEUR DE BELEME[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!SEIGNEUR DE BELEME

He was Seigneur of Bellême and Alençon

Of Oise, Picardy, France. A vassal of Hugh Capet, Duke of France. In about 960 Duke Richard of Normandy was attacked by Thibault, Count de Blois et Chartres, and Rouen was beseiged. Rotrou de Chateaudun led Thibault's army. Yves de Creil supported the Duke and, with the help of the Danes, Richard won the day. The Danes went on to plunder the Eure valley. Thibault subsequently gave Rotrou lands around Nogent and Mortagne, what became the County of Mortagne-Perche, as a march against Normandy. With the connivance of Duke Richard, Hugh Capet gave Yves the Seigniory of Bellême as a march against Blois. Yves was subsequently styled Ives Count de Bellême. He later obtained Saosnois (in Maine), Alencon, and the castle of Domfront.Yves married Godehilde of Ponthieu, the daughter of Hilduin, Count of Montreuil et de Ponthieu. Alternately his wife was Mathilde of Conde-Sur-Noirau. He had three sons, Guillauame, Yves, and Avesgaud.
See the discussion in Yves de Bellême <http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/yves0000.htm> by Stewart Baldwin. Another great site for medieval French history and genealogy is France Balade <http://francebalade.free.fr/indexen.html>.

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(Research):(son of Fulk de Belesme, Count of Cordoba, who was son of Yves, Sn de Creil)

Of Beauvoisie, Picardie, Seigneur de Creil.
When Duke Richard I of Normandy was 12 years old he was living in the castle of Laon as the ward of Louis IV, King of France. Yves de Creil, according to Norman historians, betrayed a plot to murder Richard to Osmund, the Duke's tutor and squire.
Osmund had Richard feign illness and carried him out in a russet cloak, fleeing to the castle of Coucy, held by Bernard, Count of Senlis.
The "Ecclesiastical History" of Orderic Vitalis mentions an "Ivo de Credolio regis balistarius" [literally, royal crossbow-man, but more likely officer in charge of the royal siege train of catapults, ballista, and trebuchet], circa 945. He married Geile de Ponthieu (912-965). In politics the family were Robertians, followers of the Dukes of France who would become Kings of France after the final fall of the Merovingians.

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Of Oise, Picardy, France. A vassal of Hugh Capet, Duke of France. In about 960 Duke Richard of Normandy was attacked by Thibault, Count de Blois et Chartres, and Rouen was beseiged. Rotrou de Chateaudun led Thibault's army. Yves de Creil supported the Duke and, with the help of the Danes, Richard won the day. The Danes went on to plunder the Eure valley. Thibault subsequently gave Rotrou lands around Nogent and Mortagne, what became the County of Mortagne-Perche, as a march against Normandy. With the connivance of Duke Richard, Hugh Capet gave Yves the Seigniory of Bellême as a march against Blois. Yves was subsequently styled Ives Count de Bellême. He later obtained Saosnois (in Maine), Alencon, and the castle of Domfront.Yves married Godehilde of Ponthieu, the daughter of Hilduin, Count of Montreuil et de Ponthieu. Alternately his wife was Mathilde of Conde-Sur-Noirau. He had three sons, Guillauame, Yves, and Avesgaud.
See the discussion in Yves de Bellême <http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/yves0000.htm> by Stewart Baldwin. Another great site for medieval French history and genealogy is France Balade <http://francebalade.free.fr/indexen.html>.

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(Research):(son of Fulk de Belesme, Count of Cordoba, who was son of Yves, Sn de Creil)

Of Beauvoisie, Picardie, Seigneur de Creil.
When Duke Richard I of Normandy was 12 years old he was living in the castle of Laon as the ward of Louis IV, King of France. Yves de Creil, according to Norman historians, betrayed a plot to murder Richard to Osmund, the Duke's tutor and squire.
Osmund had Richard feign illness and carried him out in a russet cloak, fleeing to the castle of Coucy, held by Bernard, Count of Senlis.
The "Ecclesiastical History" of Orderic Vitalis mentions an "Ivo de Credolio regis balistarius" [literally, royal crossbow-man, but more likely officer in charge of the royal siege train of catapults, ballista, and trebuchet], circa 945. He married Geile de Ponthieu (912-965). In politics the family were Robertians, followers of the Dukes of France who would become Kings of France after the final fall of the Merovingians.

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[1695] WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 8725170 = 917714

[2880] WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 34900680 = 3670856

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http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a34.htm#i13961

8589934592. Yves L De Criel, Lord Bellesme Of Belleme & Alencon , son of Fulk De Belesme "Count" Of Corbonais and Rolais De Corbonais Cnts. Of Corbonais, was born about 940 in Normandy France and died in 997, about age 57.

Yves married Godhilde (Godchild) Ponthieu Of Ponthieu.

Children from this marriage were:

4294967296 i. (Guillaume) William L De Belleme "Count" Of Alencon (born in 965 Normandy France - died in 1028)
ii. Hildeburge De Bellesme ()
iii. Godchild De Belesme (born about 971 Normandy, France - died on 27 Oct 1035)
iv. Yves/Baldwin De Bellesme (born about 945)

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#Générale#Grand maître des balistes de France en 945

{geni:about_me} From Medlands

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IVES de Creil (-1005 or after). [Guillaume of Jumièges records that Louis IV King of the West Franks, after the death of Richard´s father, marched on Rouen, was received by “Rodulphus et Bernardus atque Anslech totius Normannici ducatus tutores”, and captured Richard, who was taken to Laon but was freed by “Osmundus...consilio cum Yvone patre Willelmi de Belismo” and taken to “Silvanectis” where “Bernardus...comes” protected “nepotem suum Richardum”[82]. If correctly reported, this event must be dated to [942/43]. It seems unlikely that Ives, father of Guillaume de Bellême, could have been involved considering his survival until the early years of the following century.] "Ivo…in castro meo Bellismo" founded the chapel of l'Abbayette, with the consent of "duarum…sororum mearum Billehendis atque Eremburgis…duorum avunculorum, Seinfredi episcopi et Guillelmi, atque cognatorum Guillelmi clerici, Roberti, Sutsardi, rursusque Guillelmi laïci", for the souls of "patris mei Fulconii et matris meæ Rothais" by charter dated 12 Oct 997, witnessed by "Hugonis comitis, Radulfi vicecomitis"[83]. Seigneur de Bellême {Mortagne, Orne}, du Saosnais, du Passais et de Sées. "Ivo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter[84]. m GODEHILDIS, daughter of ---. "Ivo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter, confirmed after his death by "Willelmus et Godehildis mater mea"[85]. Ives & his wife had five children:

i) GUILLAUME de Bellême (-[1031]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Robert II Duke of Normandy besieged “Willelmus Belesmensis, Yvonis filius...ex castro Alentio quod beneficio tenebat iure”, who had rebelled, and forced his submission (although he rebelled again later)[86]. Seigneur de Bellême. Sire d'Alençon.

- see below.

ii) IVES de Bellême (-after [1031]). "Avesgaudus…Cenomannensium presul, meusque frater Ivo" donated property to Saint-Vincent du Mans by charter dated to [995/1032][87]. "Rotberti filii Wilelmi, Ivo suus avunculus" donated property to Notre-Dame de Bellême by undated charter[88]. Abelin lists his donations of property at Le Mans to Marmoutier by charter dated [1064/10 May 1065], naming "Ivonis de Belismo [et] filiis illius Guilelmo, Avesgaudo præsule atque Ivone"[89].

iii) AVESGAUD de Bellême (-Verdun 27 Oct 1035). Abelin lists his donations of property at Le Mans to Marmoutier by charter dated [1064/10 May 1065], naming "Ivonis de Belismo [et] filiis illius Guilelmo, Avesgaudo præsule atque Ivone"[90]. Bishop of Le Mans [997]. The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records the installation of "Avesgaudus, nepos ipsius" as Bishop of Le Mans after the death of "Segenfrido" (in [997])[91]. "Avesgaudus…Cenomannensium presul, meusque frater Ivo" donated property to Saint-Vincent du Mans by charter dated to [995/1032][92]. Bishop Gervais names "avunculi mei Avesgaudi…genitoris cum genetrice mea Haimonis et Hildeburga" in his testament dated [1040/47], which also specifies that "avunculi mei domini Avesgaudi episcopi" died "apud Verdunis VI Kal Nov" on returning from Jerusalem, that "sororis eius, matris mee Hyldeburge" died the same day that "patris mei Haimonis" died "XVIII Kal Feb", and that he was ordained "XIV Kal Jan"[93].

iv) HILDEBURGIS de Bellême (-27 Oct ----). Avesgaud Bishop of Le Mans gave the church of Parigné-l'Evèque and Loué to "unam Hildeburgi sorori suæ primogenitæ et alteram Godehilde germanæ suæ secundæ" by charter dated [1000][94]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Bishop Gervais names "avunculi mei Avesgaudi…genitoris cum genetrice mea Haimonis et Hildeburga" in his testament dated [1040/47][95]. m (1006 or before) HAMON [Hamelin] de Château-du-Loir, son of --- (-15 Jan [1030]).

v) GODEHILDIS de Bellême . Avesgaud Bishop of Le Mans gave the church of Parigné-l'Evèque and Loué to "unam Hildeburgi sorori suæ primogenitæ et alteram Godehilde germanæ suæ secundæ" by charter dated [1000][96]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. "Rodulfus…Cenomannus vicecomes…mee bone coniugis Godehelt…filio Rodulfo" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Victeur du Mans by charter dated to [994][97]. No direct proof has been identified that this is the same Godehildis, but it appears likely to be correct. m [firstly] ALBERT [I] de la Ferté-en-Beauce {la Ferté-Vidame, Eure-et-Loir}, son of ---. [m secondly RAOUL [II] Vicomte du Maine, son of --- (-before 1014).] Godehildis & her [first] husband had one child:

(a) ALBERT [II] de la Ferté-en-Beauce . Motey names Albert as son of Godehildis and her first husband, stating that he became a monk at Jumièges after his wife died and was elected abbé de Saint-Etienne et de Saint-Mesmin near Orléans, but cites no primary source[98]. Abbot at Micy. m (before 989) --- de Châteaudun, daughter of HUGUES Vicomte de Châteaudun & his wife Hildegarde du Perche. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Albert & his wife had one child:

(1) ARNOUL de la Ferté-en-Beauce (-1053). "Arnulphus ex nobili Alençoniorum et Bellismensium comitum genere, nepos Avesgaudi et consobrinus Gervasii" was elected archbishop of Tours[99]. Archbishop of Tours 1023.

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Generation One

1. COUNT FULK1 DE CORBONAIS was born between 827 and 983, and died between 887 and 1093. He married ROLAIS. [3]

Child: + 2 i. IVRES I2 DE BELESME, d. in 997; m. GODCHILDE.

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Generation Two

2. IVRES I2 DE BELESME (Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (1) Count Fulk1 and Rolais, was born between 887 and 983, and died in 997[3]. He married GODCHILDE. [3]

Child: + 3 i. COUNT GUILLAUME I3 DE ALENCON, d. in 1028; m. MAUD.

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Generation Three

3. COUNT GUILLAUME I3 DE ALENCON (Ivres I de BELESME2, Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (2) Ivres I2 and Godchilde BELESME, was born between 918 and 998, and died in 1028[3]. He married MAUD. [3]

Child: + 4 i. WILLIAM4 TALVAS, d. in 1070; m. HILDEBURGE.

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Generation Four

4. WILLIAM4 TALVAS (Guillaume I de ALENCON3, Ivres I de BELESME2, Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (3) Count Guillaume I3 and Maud, was born between 966 and 1012, and died in 1070[1]. He married HILDEBURGE. [3, 2]

Child: + 5 i. MABEL5 of Alencon, Eure, France, b. circa 1026, d. in 1079; m. (AAL-5) ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, EARL OF SHREWSBURY in 1048.

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La Maison de la Jaille, par le Marquis de Brisay:

"C'est au règne de Charles le Simple en France, qu'il faut remonter pour trouver l'origine de la famille dont nous écrivons l'histoire. Ce prince avait pour résidence l'ancienne cité royale des Mérovingiens, Compiègne, où son aïeul avait fondé la célèbre abbaye de Saint-Corneille. Un des dignitaires de la cour de Charles, portant le nom d'une localité voisine, Yves de Creil, obtint du monarque l'inféodation de la partie méridionale du Perticensis pagus, où il éleva dès 940 la forteresse de Bellême, centre d'une juridiction bientôt étendue à la totalité du Perche, exception faite de Mortagne reprise par les rois. Les conquêtes personnelles du premier comte de Bellême, la faveur résultant des services qu'il rendit à la couronne lui permirent de s'étendre jusqu'à Alençon, où il fixa sa puissance par la construction d'un château dont il reste de curieux vestiges.

Yves de Creil, comte de Bellême et d'Alençon, en 948, fut confirmé dans ses possessions à titre héréditaire par Richard II, duc de Normandie, et par Lothaire, roi de France, qui en donnèrent l'investiture à son fils aîné Guillaume, présenté par acte authentique en pleine possession, l'an 997. Les descendants de celui-ci formèrent la première Maison des comtes d'Alençon et de Bellême, dont les membres très puissants furent, au dire de certains auteurs «fameux par leurs méfaits».

D'une femme appelée Godehilde, Yves de Creil avait eu plusieurs enfants. Le troisième de ses fils, Yves ou Yvon, est connu par l'attestation qu'il donna à une fondation faite en faveur de l'église Saint-Vincent du Mans par,l'évêque Avesgaud, son frère. Yves ou Yvon serait, au dire de plusieurs historiens, la tige des sires de Châteaugontier, ce que rend probable la faveur dont lui-même et les siens paraissent avoir joui auprès des comtes d'Anjou, possesseurs d'une partie du Maine. Yves fut, en effet, comme l'attestent plusieurs titres, un des fidèles de Geoffroy Grisegonnelle et de Foulques Nerra (958-1040).

Le père Anselme dit que les seigneurs de Châteaugontier sont « vraisemblablement » puînés de Bellême, Yves, troisième fils d'Yves de Creil, étant « cru avec quelqu'espèce de probabilité » l'auteur de cette Maison. Ménage paraît le croire aussi en maintenant une réserve prudente. Bry de la Clergerie n'ose pas l'affirmer, mais il ne soutient pas l'opinion contraire. Les contradicteurs de cette donnée généralement admise, ont argué d'un texte émanant du cartulaire particulier de Philippe-Auguste, où il est dit que Renaud de Châteaugontier avait pour mère la fille de Rotrou, comte du Perche, voulant ainsi rattacher le premier au second par les femmes seulement. Mais ils se sont trompés de sept générations; Philippe-Auguste ne visant, dans ses notes, qu'un Renaud qu'il avait connu dans sa jeunesse, lequel avait pour mère Béatrix de Bellême. Il est significatif de constater que, dès l'usage des sceaux, les sires de Châteaugontier portèrent les mêmes armes que les comtes d'Alençon : d'argent à trois chevrons de gueules, dont ils brisèrent, au début, le premier chevron, établissant ainsi nettement leur situation de cadets de la Maison de Bellême."
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IVES de Creil (-1005 or after). [Guillaume of Jumièges records that Louis IV King of the West Franks, after the death of Richard´s father, marched on Rouen, was received by “Rodulphus et Bernardus atque Anslech totius Normannici ducatus tutores”, and captured Richard, who was taken to Laon but was freed by “Osmundus...consilio cum Yvone patre Willelmi de Belismo” and taken to “Silvanectis” where “Bernardus...comes” protected “nepotem suum Richardum”[82]. If correctly reported, this event must be dated to [942/43]. It seems unlikely that Ives, father of Guillaume de Bellême, could have been involved considering his survival until the early years of the following century.] "Ivo…in castro meo Bellismo" founded the chapel of l'Abbayette, with the consent of "duarum…sororum mearum Billehendis atque Eremburgis…duorum avunculorum, Seinfredi episcopi et Guillelmi, atque cognatorum Guillelmi clerici, Roberti, Sutsardi, rursusque Guillelmi laïci", for the souls of "patris mei Fulconii et matris meæ Rothais" by charter dated 12 Oct 997, witnessed by "Hugonis comitis, Radulfi vicecomitis"[83]. Seigneur de Bellême {Mortagne, Orne}, du Saosnais, du Passais et de Sées. "Ivo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter[84]. m GODEHILDIS, daughter of ---. "Ivo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter, confirmed after his death by "Willelmus et Godehildis mater mea"[85]. Ives & his wife had five children:
i) GUILLAUME de Bellême (-[1031]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Robert II Duke of Normandy besieged “Willelmus Belesmensis, Yvonis filius...ex castro Alentio quod beneficio tenebat iure”, who had rebelled, and forced his submission (although he rebelled again later)[86]. Seigneur de Bellême. Sire d'Alençon.

- see below.

ii) IVES de Bellême (-after [1031]). "Avesgaudus…Cenomannensium presul, meusque frater Ivo" donated property to Saint-Vincent du Mans by charter dated to [995/1032][87]. "Rotberti filii Wilelmi, Ivo suus avunculus" donated property to Notre-Dame de Bellême by undated charter[88]. Abelin lists his donations of property at Le Mans to Marmoutier by charter dated [1064/10 May 1065], naming "Ivonis de Belismo [et] filiis illius Guilelmo, Avesgaudo præsule atque Ivone"[89].

iii) AVESGAUD de Bellême (-Verdun 27 Oct 1035). Abelin lists his donations of property at Le Mans to Marmoutier by charter dated [1064/10 May 1065], naming "Ivonis de Belismo [et] filiis illius Guilelmo, Avesgaudo præsule atque Ivone"[90]. Bishop of Le Mans [997]. The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records the installation of "Avesgaudus, nepos ipsius" as Bishop of Le Mans after the death of "Segenfrido" (in [997])[91]. "Avesgaudus…Cenomannensium presul, meusque frater Ivo" donated property to Saint-Vincent du Mans by charter dated to [995/1032][92]. Bishop Gervais names "avunculi mei Avesgaudi…genitoris cum genetrice mea Haimonis et Hildeburga" in his testament dated [1040/47], which also specifies that "avunculi mei domini Avesgaudi episcopi" died "apud Verdunis VI Kal Nov" on returning from Jerusalem, that "sororis eius, matris mee Hyldeburge" died the same day that "patris mei Haimonis" died "XVIII Kal Feb", and that he was ordained "XIV Kal Jan"[93].

iv) HILDEBURGIS de Bellême (-27 Oct ----). Avesgaud Bishop of Le Mans gave the church of Parigné-l'Evèque and Loué to "unam Hildeburgi sorori suæ primogenitæ et alteram Godehilde germanæ suæ secundæ" by charter dated [1000][94]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Bishop Gervais names "avunculi mei Avesgaudi…genitoris cum genetrice mea Haimonis et Hildeburga" in his testament dated [1040/47][95]. m (1006 or before) HAMON [Hamelin] de Château-du-Loir, son of --- (-15 Jan [1030]).

v) GODEHILDIS de Bellême . Avesgaud Bishop of Le Mans gave the church of Parigné-l'Evèque and Loué to "unam Hildeburgi sorori suæ primogenitæ et alteram Godehilde germanæ suæ secundæ" by charter dated [1000][96]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. "Rodulfus…Cenomannus vicecomes…mee bone coniugis Godehelt…filio Rodulfo" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Victeur du Mans by charter dated to [994][97]. No direct proof has been identified that this is the same Godehildis, but it appears likely to be correct. m [firstly] ALBERT [I] de la Ferté-en-Beauce {la Ferté-Vidame, Eure-et-Loir}, son of ---. [m secondly RAOUL [II] Vicomte du Maine, son of --- (-before 1014).] Godehildis & her [first] husband had one child:

(a) ALBERT [II] de la Ferté-en-Beauce . Motey names Albert as son of Godehildis and her first husband, stating that he became a monk at Jumièges after his wife died and was elected abbé de Saint-Etienne et de Saint-Mesmin near Orléans, but cites no primary source[98]. Abbot at Micy. m (before 989) --- de Châteaudun, daughter of HUGUES Vicomte de Châteaudun & his wife Hildegarde du Perche. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Albert & his wife had one child:

(1) ARNOUL de la Ferté-en-Beauce (-1053). "Arnulphus ex nobili Alençoniorum et Bellismensium comitum genere, nepos Avesgaudi et consobrinus Gervasii" was elected archbishop of Tours[99]. Archbishop of Tours 1023.

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Generation One

1. COUNT FULK1 DE CORBONAIS was born between 827 and 983, and died between 887 and 1093. He married ROLAIS. [3]

Child: + 2 i. IVRES I2 DE BELESME, d. in 997; m. GODCHILDE.

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Generation Two

2. IVRES I2 DE BELESME (Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (1) Count Fulk1 and Rolais, was born between 887 and 983, and died in 997[3]. He married GODCHILDE. [3]

Child: + 3 i. COUNT GUILLAUME I3 DE ALENCON, d. in 1028; m. MAUD.

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Generation Three

3. COUNT GUILLAUME I3 DE ALENCON (Ivres I de BELESME2, Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (2) Ivres I2 and Godchilde BELESME, was born between 918 and 998, and died in 1028[3]. He married MAUD. [3]

Child: + 4 i. WILLIAM4 TALVAS, d. in 1070; m. HILDEBURGE.

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Generation Four

4. WILLIAM4 TALVAS (Guillaume I de ALENCON3, Ivres I de BELESME2, Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (3) Count Guillaume I3 and Maud, was born between 966 and 1012, and died in 1070[1]. He married HILDEBURGE. [3, 2]

Child: + 5 i. MABEL5 of Alencon, Eure, France, b. circa 1026, d. in 1079; m. (AAL-5) ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, EARL OF SHREWSBURY in 1048.

-------------------- La Maison de la Jaille, par le Marquis de Brisay:

"C'est au règne de Charles le Simple en France, qu'il faut remonter pour trouver l'origine de la famille dont nous écrivons l'histoire. Ce prince avait pour résidence l'ancienne cité royale des Mérovingiens, Compiègne, où son aïeul avait fondé la célèbre abbaye de Saint-Corneille. Un des dignitaires de la cour de Charles, portant le nom d'une localité voisine, Yves de Creil, obtint du monarque l'inféodation de la partie méridionale du Perticensis pagus, où il éleva dès 940 la forteresse de Bellême, centre d'une juridiction bientôt étendue à la totalité du Perche, exception faite de Mortagne reprise par les rois. Les conquêtes personnelles du premier comte de Bellême, la faveur résultant des services qu'il rendit à la couronne lui permirent de s'étendre jusqu'à Alençon, où il fixa sa puissance par la construction d'un château dont il reste de curieux vestiges.

Yves de Creil, comte de Bellême et d'Alençon, en 948, fut confirmé dans ses possessions à titre héréditaire par Richard II, duc de Normandie, et par Lothaire, roi de France, qui en donnèrent l'investiture à son fils aîné Guillaume, présenté par acte authentique en pleine possession, l'an 997. Les descendants de celui-ci formèrent la première Maison des comtes d'Alençon et de Bellême, dont les membres très puissants furent, au dire de certains auteurs «fameux par leurs méfaits».

D'une femme appelée Godehilde, Yves de Creil avait eu plusieurs enfants. Le troisième de ses fils, Yves ou Yvon, est connu par l'attestation qu'il donna à une fondation faite en faveur de l'église Saint-Vincent du Mans par,l'évêque Avesgaud, son frère. Yves ou Yvon serait, au dire de plusieurs historiens, la tige des sires de Châteaugontier, ce que rend probable la faveur dont lui-même et les siens paraissent avoir joui auprès des comtes d'Anjou, possesseurs d'une partie du Maine. Yves fut, en effet, comme l'attestent plusieurs titres, un des fidèles de Geoffroy Grisegonnelle et de Foulques Nerra (958-1040).

Le père Anselme dit que les seigneurs de Châteaugontier sont « vraisemblablement » puînés de Bellême, Yves, troisième fils d'Yves de Creil, étant « cru avec quelqu'espèce de probabilité » l'auteur de cette Maison. Ménage paraît le croire aussi en maintenant une réserve prudente. Bry de la Clergerie n'ose pas l'affirmer, mais il ne soutient pas l'opinion contraire. Les contradicteurs de cette donnée généralement admise, ont argué d'un texte émanant du cartulaire particulier de Philippe-Auguste, où il est dit que Renaud de Châteaugontier avait pour mère la fille de Rotrou, comte du Perche, voulant ainsi rattacher le premier au second par les femmes seulement. Mais ils se sont trompés de sept générations; Philippe-Auguste ne visant, dans ses notes, qu'un Renaud qu'il avait connu dans sa jeunesse, lequel avait pour mère Béatrix de Bellême. Il est significatif de constater que, dès l'usage des sceaux, les sires de Châteaugontier portèrent les mêmes armes que les comtes d'Alençon : d'argent à trois chevrons de gueules, dont ils brisèrent, au début, le premier chevron, établissant ainsi nettement leur situation de cadets de la Maison de Bellême." -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_de_Bell%C3%AAme

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IVES de Creil (-1005 or after). [Guillaume of Jumièges records that Louis IV King of the West Franks, after the death of Richard´s father, marched on Rouen, was received by “Rodulphus et Bernardus atque Anslech totius Normannici ducatus tutores”, and captured Richard, who was taken to Laon but was freed by “Osmundus...consilio cum Yvone patre Willelmi de Belismo” and taken to “Silvanectis” where “Bernardus...comes” protected “nepotem suum Richardum”[82]. If correctly reported, this event must be dated to [942/43]. It seems unlikely that Ives, father of Guillaume de Bellême, could have been involved considering his survival until the early years of the following century.] "Ivo…in castro meo Bellismo" founded the chapel of l'Abbayette, with the consent of "duarum…sororum mearum Billehendis atque Eremburgis…duorum avunculorum, Seinfredi episcopi et Guillelmi, atque cognatorum Guillelmi clerici, Roberti, Sutsardi, rursusque Guillelmi laïci", for the souls of "patris mei Fulconii et matris meæ Rothais" by charter dated 12 Oct 997, witnessed by "Hugonis comitis, Radulfi vicecomitis"[83]. Seigneur de Bellême {Mortagne, Orne}, du Saosnais, du Passais et de Sées. "Ivo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter[84]. m GODEHILDIS, daughter of ---. "Ivo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter, confirmed after his death by "Willelmus et Godehildis mater mea"[85]. Ives & his wife had five children:
i) GUILLAUME de Bellême (-[1031]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Robert II Duke of Normandy besieged “Willelmus Belesmensis, Yvonis filius...ex castro Alentio quod beneficio tenebat iure”, who had rebelled, and forced his submission (although he rebelled again later)[86]. Seigneur de Bellême. Sire d'Alençon.

- see below.

ii) IVES de Bellême (-after [1031]). "Avesgaudus…Cenomannensium presul, meusque frater Ivo" donated property to Saint-Vincent du Mans by charter dated to [995/1032][87]. "Rotberti filii Wilelmi, Ivo suus avunculus" donated property to Notre-Dame de Bellême by undated charter[88]. Abelin lists his donations of property at Le Mans to Marmoutier by charter dated [1064/10 May 1065], naming "Ivonis de Belismo [et] filiis illius Guilelmo, Avesgaudo præsule atque Ivone"[89].

iii) AVESGAUD de Bellême (-Verdun 27 Oct 1035). Abelin lists his donations of property at Le Mans to Marmoutier by charter dated [1064/10 May 1065], naming "Ivonis de Belismo [et] filiis illius Guilelmo, Avesgaudo præsule atque Ivone"[90]. Bishop of Le Mans [997]. The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records the installation of "Avesgaudus, nepos ipsius" as Bishop of Le Mans after the death of "Segenfrido" (in [997])[91]. "Avesgaudus…Cenomannensium presul, meusque frater Ivo" donated property to Saint-Vincent du Mans by charter dated to [995/1032][92]. Bishop Gervais names "avunculi mei Avesgaudi…genitoris cum genetrice mea Haimonis et Hildeburga" in his testament dated [1040/47], which also specifies that "avunculi mei domini Avesgaudi episcopi" died "apud Verdunis VI Kal Nov" on returning from Jerusalem, that "sororis eius, matris mee Hyldeburge" died the same day that "patris mei Haimonis" died "XVIII Kal Feb", and that he was ordained "XIV Kal Jan"[93].

iv) HILDEBURGIS de Bellême (-27 Oct ----). Avesgaud Bishop of Le Mans gave the church of Parigné-l'Evèque and Loué to "unam Hildeburgi sorori suæ primogenitæ et alteram Godehilde germanæ suæ secundæ" by charter dated [1000][94]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Bishop Gervais names "avunculi mei Avesgaudi…genitoris cum genetrice mea Haimonis et Hildeburga" in his testament dated [1040/47][95]. m (1006 or before) HAMON [Hamelin] de Château-du-Loir, son of --- (-15 Jan [1030]).

v) GODEHILDIS de Bellême . Avesgaud Bishop of Le Mans gave the church of Parigné-l'Evèque and Loué to "unam Hildeburgi sorori suæ primogenitæ et alteram Godehilde germanæ suæ secundæ" by charter dated [1000][96]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. "Rodulfus…Cenomannus vicecomes…mee bone coniugis Godehelt…filio Rodulfo" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Victeur du Mans by charter dated to [994][97]. No direct proof has been identified that this is the same Godehildis, but it appears likely to be correct. m [firstly] ALBERT [I] de la Ferté-en-Beauce {la Ferté-Vidame, Eure-et-Loir}, son of ---. [m secondly RAOUL [II] Vicomte du Maine, son of --- (-before 1014).] Godehildis & her [first] husband had one child:

(a) ALBERT [II] de la Ferté-en-Beauce . Motey names Albert as son of Godehildis and her first husband, stating that he became a monk at Jumièges after his wife died and was elected abbé de Saint-Etienne et de Saint-Mesmin near Orléans, but cites no primary source[98]. Abbot at Micy. m (before 989) --- de Châteaudun, daughter of HUGUES Vicomte de Châteaudun & his wife Hildegarde du Perche. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Albert & his wife had one child:

(1) ARNOUL de la Ferté-en-Beauce (-1053). "Arnulphus ex nobili Alençoniorum et Bellismensium comitum genere, nepos Avesgaudi et consobrinus Gervasii" was elected archbishop of Tours[99]. Archbishop of Tours 1023.

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Section KC: Descendants of Count Fulk de Corbonais

David Thaler

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Generation One

1. COUNT FULK1 DE CORBONAIS was born between 827 and 983, and died between 887 and 1093. He married ROLAIS. [3]

Child: + 2 i. IVRES I2 DE BELESME, d. in 997; m. GODCHILDE.

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Generation Two

2. IVRES I2 DE BELESME (Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (1) Count Fulk1 and Rolais, was born between 887 and 983, and died in 997[3]. He married GODCHILDE. [3]

Child: + 3 i. COUNT GUILLAUME I3 DE ALENCON, d. in 1028; m. MAUD.

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Generation Three

3. COUNT GUILLAUME I3 DE ALENCON (Ivres I de BELESME2, Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (2) Ivres I2 and Godchilde BELESME, was born between 918 and 998, and died in 1028[3]. He married MAUD. [3]

Child: + 4 i. WILLIAM4 TALVAS, d. in 1070; m. HILDEBURGE.

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Generation Four

4. WILLIAM4 TALVAS (Guillaume I de ALENCON3, Ivres I de BELESME2, Fulk de CORBONAIS1), son of (3) Count Guillaume I3 and Maud, was born between 966 and 1012, and died in 1070[1]. He married HILDEBURGE. [3, 2]

Child: + 5 i. MABEL5 of Alencon, Eure, France, b. circa 1026, d. in 1079; m. (AAL-5) ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, EARL OF SHREWSBURY in 1048.

-------------------- La Maison de la Jaille, par le Marquis de Brisay:

"C'est au règne de Charles le Simple en France, qu'il faut remonter pour trouver l'origine de la famille dont nous écrivons l'histoire. Ce prince avait pour résidence l'ancienne cité royale des Mérovingiens, Compiègne, où son aïeul avait fondé la célèbre abbaye de Saint-Corneille. Un des dignitaires de la cour de Charles, portant le nom d'une localité voisine, Yves de Creil, obtint du monarque l'inféodation de la partie méridionale du Perticensis pagus, où il éleva dès 940 la forteresse de Bellême, centre d'une juridiction bientôt étendue à la totalité du Perche, exception faite de Mortagne reprise par les rois. Les conquêtes personnelles du premier comte de Bellême, la faveur résultant des services qu'il rendit à la couronne lui permirent de s'étendre jusqu'à Alençon, où il fixa sa puissance par la construction d'un château dont il reste de curieux vestiges.

Yves de Creil, comte de Bellême et d'Alençon, en 948, fut confirmé dans ses possessions à titre héréditaire par Richard II, duc de Normandie, et par Lothaire, roi de France, qui en donnèrent l'investiture à son fils aîné Guillaume, présenté par acte authentique en pleine possession, l'an 997. Les descendants de celui-ci formèrent la première Maison des comtes d'Alençon et de Bellême, dont les membres très puissants furent, au dire de certains auteurs «fameux par leurs méfaits».

D'une femme appelée Godehilde, Yves de Creil avait eu plusieurs enfants. Le troisième de ses fils, Yves ou Yvon, est connu par l'attestation qu'il donna à une fondation faite en faveur de l'église Saint-Vincent du Mans par,l'évêque Avesgaud, son frère. Yves ou Yvon serait, au dire de plusieurs historiens, la tige des sires de Châteaugontier, ce que rend probable la faveur dont lui-même et les siens paraissent avoir joui auprès des comtes d'Anjou, possesseurs d'une partie du Maine. Yves fut, en effet, comme l'attestent plusieurs titres, un des fidèles de Geoffroy Grisegonnelle et de Foulques Nerra (958-1040).

Le père Anselme dit que les seigneurs de Châteaugontier sont « vraisemblablement » puînés de Bellême, Yves, troisième fils d'Yves de Creil, étant « cru avec quelqu'espèce de probabilité » l'auteur de cette Maison. Ménage paraît le croire aussi en maintenant une réserve prudente. Bry de la Clergerie n'ose pas l'affirmer, mais il ne soutient pas l'opinion contraire. Les contradicteurs de cette donnée généralement admise, ont argué d'un texte émanant du cartulaire particulier de Philippe-Auguste, où il est dit que Renaud de Châteaugontier avait pour mère la fille de Rotrou, comte du Perche, voulant ainsi rattacher le premier au second par les femmes seulement. Mais ils se sont trompés de sept générations; Philippe-Auguste ne visant, dans ses notes, qu'un Renaud qu'il avait connu dans sa jeunesse, lequel avait pour mère Béatrix de Bellême. Il est significatif de constater que, dès l'usage des sceaux, les sires de Châteaugontier portèrent les mêmes armes que les comtes d'Alençon : d'argent à trois chevrons de gueules, dont ils brisèrent, au début, le premier chevron, établissant ainsi nettement leur situation de cadets de la Maison de Bellême." -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_de_Bell%C3%AAme

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Extract from "Records of the Ashe Family" by Waller Ashe (1876)
The family of Ashe, formerly d'Essaye, d'Essai, d'Esse and de Esse, derives in direct male descent from the ancient Lords of Bellesme and Alençon, and is deducible through twenty seven generations. What in more modern days has been known as the Duchy of Alençon, was formerly held by the Seigneurs de Bellesme, who became in course of time, Counts of Perche and finally Counts of Alençon. They ruled over the whole of Perche, Seez, Alençon, Carbonnois, etc., and though a fierce, proud, warlike, and often cruel race, were gifted with the chivalric virtues of valor and generosity.
Ivres, Seigneur de Bellesme, and his wife Godehilde, flourished about 950. He died in 995. His son, Guillaume I, Compte de Bellesme and d'Alençon, succeeded in 995.

Extract from "Géographie du Perche et Chronologie de ses Comtés" by the Vicomte de Romanet (1890-1902)
Tableau de la Maison de Bellême, ou familles des premiers seigneurs de Bellême, Alençon, Château-Gontier, Château-Renaut, etc.
Yves de Creil, seigneur de Bellême, 954; d. vers 997, maître des Arbaletriers de Louis d'Outremer, épouse Godehilde; avait des enfants:
(1) Hildebourge, épouse Aymon, seigneur de Château-du-Loir, dont Gervais évêque du Mans.
(2) Guillaume Ier, seigneur de Bellême et d'Alençon, 997; d. 1028 et probablement du Sonnois; épouse Mahaut, dont:
(a) Guérin, seigneur de Domfront, dont:
(i) Adèle; épouse Rotrou II, comte de Mortangne, 1039; d. 1079.
(b) Robert, seigneur de Bellême et d'Alençon 1028, tué à Ballon 1033.
(c) Guillaume II - Talvas, seigneur de Bellême et d'Alençon, 1033; d. 1050; épouse Hildebourge, fille d'Arnoul B. N., fille de vicompte de Beaumont, dont:
(i) Robert; d. vers 1035.
(ii) Mabile, dame de Bellême et d'Alençon, 1070; d. 1082; épouse Roger de Montgommery, vte d'Exmes, 1048; d. 1094.
(d) Foulques, tué au combat de Blavou.
(e) Yves, évêque de Séez, seigneur de Bellême et d'Alençon 1050; d. 1070.
(3) Godehilde.
(4) Avesgaut, évêque du Mans.
(5) Yves, de Bellême, dont:
(a) Alart 1er, seigneur de Château-Gontier; d. 1101, à la croisade; épouse Isabelle de Matheselon, dont:
(b) Geoffroy.
(c) Renaut, fait bâtir le château nommé à cause de lui, Chateau-Renaut, dont:
(i) Guicher, 1er seigneur de Château-Renaut; épouse Perronelle.
(ii) Letbest, fils naturel.

Extract from "Dictionnaire de la Noblesse: Tome II" by François-Alexandre Aubert de la Chesnaye des Bois (1771)
BELLEME & CHATEAU-GONTIER
Voici une des plus grandes et des plus illustres Maisons du Royaume, et qui est éteinte depuis un si long-tems, qu'on n'en peut parler dans toue la régularité qu'on auroit voulu. Comme du tems qu'elle subsistoir les armes n'étoient pas encore fixes dans les familles, on ne peut pas assurer de celles de cette Maison; néanmoins les derniers qui en ont été, portoient: d'argent, à trois chevrons de gueules.
Ives de Belleme, Comte de Belleme et d'Alençon, un des plus grands et des plus riches Seigneurs de son tems, épousa une Dame nommée Godechilde, dont il eut trois fils et deux filles:
1. Guillaume, dont nous parlerons ensuite.
2. Ives, qui fit la branche des Seigneurs de Chateau-Gontier.
3. Avesgaud, Evêque du Mans.
4. Hildeburge, femme de Hamon or Hamelin, Seigneur de Chateau-du-Loir.
5. Godechilde, dont on ignore l'alliance.
Guillaume de Belleme, I du nom, Comte de Belleme et d'Alençon, eut de Mathilde, son épouse, trois fils:
1. Robert, Comte d'Alençon et de Belleme, mort sans hoirs.
2. Guillaume, qui suit.
3. Ives, Comte de Belleme, Evèque de Séez.
Guillaume de Belleme, II du nom, Comte d'Alençon et de Belleme, surnommé Talvas, épousa une Dame nommée Hildeburge, de laquelle il eut:
(a) Arnoul, mort jeune.
(b) Mabille, Comtesse de Belleme, d'Alençon, et de Séez, femme de Roger, Seigneur de Montgommery.
Translation: This is one of the biggest and the most famous Houses of the Kingdom, and which existed for such a long time, that one cannot speak in as complete precision as one would want. As in that time, existing arms were not yer fixed in familes, one cannot be sure of those of this House; however the last which existed were: argent with three chevrons.
Ives of Belleme, count of Belleme and Alençon, one of the biggest and the richest lords of his time, married a Lady named Godechilde, and had three sons and two daughters:
1. Guillaume, of whom hereafter.
2. Ives, who headed the branch of the lords of Chateau-Gontier.
3. Avesgaud, Bishop of Mans.
4. Hildeburge, wife of Hamon of Hamelin, lord de Chateau-du-Loir.
5. Godechilde, whose marriage is unknown.
Guillaume de Belleme, the first of that name, count de Belleme and Alençon, had by Mathilda, his spouse, three sons:
1. Robert, count of Alençon and of Belleme, died without issue.
2. Guillaume, of whom hereafter.
3. Ives, Count of Belleme, Bishop of Séez.
Guillaume de Belleme, second of that name, Count of Belleme and Alençon, surnamed Talvas, married a Lady named Hildeburge, by whom he had:
(a) Arnoul, died young.
(b) Mabille, countess de Belleme, of Alençon, and Séez, wife of Roger, lord of Montgommery.

Extract from Find A Grave
Name: Yves De Creil, II
Birth: unknown in Alencon, France
Death: 997 in France
Notes: Son of Yves de Creil I and Geile de Creil. He married Gordeschilda/Gohilda de Belleme. His title was Count of Belleme at Alencon. Father of Guillaumne I of Belleme, Renaud de Creil, and unknown. Died at Belleme Perche, France.
Parents: Yves De Creil (880 - ____) and Geile De Creil
Wife: Gordeschilda De Belleme De Creil (930 - 1047)
Sons:
- Guillaume De Belleme (____ - 1028)
- Renaud De Creil (970 - 1047)

221796344. Vasall Yves II den Gamle(12532) died 997 ?. (12533) I 981 underskriver han et dokument sammen med sin hustru Geila og sin sønn Yves (erkebiskop av Mans9 og kaller seg varsall av Hugo av Frankrike, den senere Hugo Capet som også underskriver sammen med sinhustru Adelheid og deres sønn Robert. Dokumentet var utstdet for klostret Homblieres i Vermandois. Denne yves er utvilsomt den samme som var gift med Godehildes (Goheu eller Godeheu) som stiftet Nortre Dame de Belleme (ifølge et udatert dokument utstedt på Belleme slott 940/997=. Yves gav før 1005 Magny-le-Desert til klostret Freure-sur-Loire.

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1 NAME Yves /De Creil/ 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 942 2 PLAC Creil, Oise, France

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