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Persoonlijke gegevens Gilbert I van Aalst van Gent, Baron of Folkingham 

• Alternatieve namen: Gilbert de Gent, Gilbert van Gent van Aalst, Gilbert De Ghent
• Hij is geboren rond 1035 in Ghent, Flanders, Belgium.Bron 8
• Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 24 oktober 1991.
• (Alt. Birth) rond 1048 in Ghent, Flanders, Belgium.Bron 7
• Hij is overleden in het jaar 1094 in Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England.Bronnen 4, 5, 7, 8
• Hij is begraven in Bardney, Lincolnshire, England, Great Britain.
• Een kind van Rudolf II (=Ralph) van Aalst en Gisela van Luxemburg
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 13 december 2020.

Gezin van Gilbert I van Aalst van Gent, Baron of Folkingham

Hij is getrouwd met Alice de Montfort.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 1069 te Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England.Bronnen 7, 8

Kind(eren):

1. Gauthier van Gent  1079-1139 
2. Fella de Gent  ± 1068-???? 
3. Emma van Gent  ± 1069-< 1135 
4. Hugues IV [Gent] de Montfort sur Risle  ± 1075-± 1124 
5. Robert van Gent  
6. Agnes van Aalst  ± 1072-???? 

Notities over Gilbert I van Aalst van Gent, Baron of Folkingham

[Thurston de Montfort.ged]

Gilbert de Gant, son of Baldwin, Earl of Flanders, by Maud, sister of William the Conqueror, accompanied his uncle into England and, participating in the triumph of Hastings, obtained a grant of the lands of a Danish proprietor named Tour, with numerous other lordships. This Gilbert happened to be at York, anno 1069, and had a narrow escape when the Danes in great force, on behalf of Edgar Etheling, entered the mouth of the Humber and, marching upon that city, committed lamentable destruction by fire and sword, there being more than 3,000 Normans slain. Like most of the great lords of his time, Gilbert de Gant disgorged to the church a part of the spoil which he had seized, and amongst other acts of piety restored Bardney Abbey, co. Lincoln, which had been utterly destroyed many years before by the Pagan Danes, Inquar and Hubba. He m, Alice, dau. of Hugh de Montfort, and had issue, Hugh, who assumed the name Montfort; Walter, his successor; Robert, Lord Chancellor of England, anno 1153; and Emma, m. to Alan, Lord Percy. This great feudal chief d. in the reign of William Rufus. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 227, Gant, Earls of Lincoln]

NOTE: Both Burke and Brian Tompsett agree that Baldwin, [6th] Count of Flanders, was Gilbert's father. However, I cannot find any reference to William the Conqueror having a sister named Maud - the only documented sister I find is Adelaide. Brian Tompsett shows Baldwin VI "the Peaceable," Count of Flanders and Artois, and Richilda, Countess of Hainault and Namur, as the parents of Gilbert, and that's what I'm sticking with.[nigel plumpton.ged]

Gilbert de Gant, son of Baldwin, Earl of Flanders, by Maud, sister of William the Conqueror, accompanied his uncle into England and, participating in the triumph of Hastings, obtained a grant of the lands of a Danish proprietor named Tour, with numerous other lordships. This Gilbert happened to be at York, anno 1069, and had a narrow escape when the Danes in great force, on behalf of Edgar Etheling, entered the mouth of the Humber and, marching upon that city, committed lamentable destruction by fire and sword, there being more than 3,000 Normans slain. Like most of the great lords of his time, Gilbert de Gant disgorged to the church a part of the spoil which he had seized, and amongst other acts of piety restored Bardney Abbey, co. Lincoln, which had been utterly destroyed many years before by the Pagan Danes, Inquar and Hubba. He m, Alice, dau. of Hugh de Montfort, and had issue, Hugh, who assumed the name Montfort; Walter, his successor; Robert, Lord Chancellor of England, anno 1153; and Emma, m. to Alan, Lord Percy. This great feudal chief d. in the reign of William Rufus. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 227, Gant, Earls of Lincoln]

NOTE: Both Burke and Brian Tompsett agree that Baldwin, [6th] Count of Flanders, was Gilbert's father. However, I cannot find any reference to William the Conqueror having a sister named Maud - the only documented sister I find is Adelaide. Brian Tompsett shows Baldwin VI "the Peaceable," Count of Flanders and Artois, and Richilda, Countess of Hainault and Namur, as the parents of Gilbert, and that's what I'm sticking with.

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Baron of Folkingham

Earl of Lincoln,

http://www.clanlindsay.com/earliest_lindsays_of_scotland.htm

ALOST: Baldwin of Alost and his younger brother, Gilbert de Ghent, companion of the Conqueror, were sons of Ralph of Alost and cadets of Guines. Gilbert de Ghent, Earl of Lincoln, was father of Walter de Lindsay, ancestor of the Scottish family of Lindsay. These Flemish ancestors of Alost were descendants of Charlemagne.
On pages 70-71, Ms. Platts goes through the variations in the heraldic devices used by the Lindsays in Scotland with the Lindsay of the Byres keeping the Alost colours. The younger son left in Lincolnshire after the senior branch had finally moved to Scotland, yet another Gilbert de Ghent, "had perforce to make a change" and took the Vermandois (Stewart) colours.
In her second book, Scottish Hazard, Volume I, published in 1985, Ms. Platts, in Appendix Two, page 96, precedes to further analyze the conclusions drawn by Lord Lindsay, in his 1849 first edition of Lives of the Lindsays. Lord Lindsay compiled evidence that his ancestry originated from Ralph de Limesy, perhaps son, certainly kinsman, of a possible Anglo-Norman already in England, a man known as Angodus de Lindsay. In Lord Lindsay’s second edition (1858), he had discovered that Angodus died without heirs and thus discarded him as the prime parent. He had newly collected evidence to show that Baldric of Lincolnshire was the father of Ralph de Limesy.
Ms. Platts did note that there was a Ralph de Limesy in the Domesday Book as a companion to the Conqueror who was an inhabitant of an area in the Seine Valley of Normandy.
Ms. Platts uses 31 pages of Volume I supporting her position that Gilbert de Ghent, who fought with the Conqueror at Hastings, was the progenitor of the earliest Scottish Lindsays.
In her third book, Scottish Hazard, Volume II (155 pages), published in 1990, Ms. Platts devotes 25 pages of Appendix Two, page 118 to further support the Flemish origin of the Lindsays of Scotland.

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E: de Gaunt (Gant) (d c1095)
For some time we showed Gilbert as a son of Baldwin VI, Count of Flanders . This followed a well known view, supported by (inter alia) BE1883 (Gant of Lincoln), which describes Gilbert as "son of Baldwin, Earl of Flanders, by Maud, sister to William the Conqueror". Faith in that view is weakened by the fact that, as far as is known, William had no sister (or half-sister) Maud (although William was married to Baldwin VI's sister Matilda). We now follow the connection suggested by TCP (Lincoln) and supported by www.rootsweb.com/ ~medieval/gant.htm (which was kindly brought to our attention by a Visitor to this site).

m. Alice (dau of Hugh II de Montfort)
BE1883 reports that Gilbert had one wife, Alice de Montfort, but a Visitor to this site has reported that he had an earlier wife: Emma of Kyme. Alice was mother of Hugh and presumably therefore also of Hugh's younger brothers. It is possible, however, that Emma of Kyme was mother of one or both of Gilbert's daughters.

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