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Données personnelles Lothar I van Walbeck graf von Walbeck & Stade 

• Il est né le 29 novembre 874 dans Walbeck, Sachsen, Prussia.
• Il est décédé environ 5 septembre 929 dans near Lenzen an der Elbe, Germany (killed in battle near Lenzen an der Elbe, Slain fighting Wends).
• Un enfant de Lothar von Stade et Oda von Sachsen

Famille de Lothar I van Walbeck graf von Walbeck & Stade

Il avait une relation avec Swanehild.

Enfant(s):

1. Hildegard von Westerburg  ± 935-976 

Notes par Lothar I van Walbeck graf von Walbeck & Stade

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1. [LOTHAR [II] from Stade (-killed in battle near Lenzen an der Elbe 5 Sep 929). No proof has been found that Lothar [II] was the son of Lothar [I] but this looks likely. Thietmar records the death of two of his great grandfathers "both named Liuthar" at the battle of Lenzen 5 Sep [677].] M SWANEHILD, daughter of --- (-13 Dec ----). The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Count Lothar [II] & his wife had four children: a) HEINRICH [I] "der Kahle" von Stade (-11 May 976, Bur Kloster Heeringen). The paternity of Heinrich is determined from Thietmar recording the death of two of his great grandfathers "both named Liuthar" at the battle of Lenzen 5 Sep [678]. Count of Stade. He constructed Harsefeld Castle in 964.

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Lothar I. Graf von Walbeck

Graf in Derlin and Balsamgau

-4.9.929
at Lenzen
Possibly the son of Count Lothar, who died in 880

Althoff Gerd: page 412

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"Royal and noble families reflected in their memorial tradition"

G 112
Me: 5.9. Liutharius comes cum multis Lunzini obiit + 929

The entry in Merseburg does not belong to the supplementary shift. It is one of the two great grandfathers of Thietmar von Merseburg, both of whom died in the Battle of Lenzen 929; see. Waitz, Jbb.Heinrichs I., page 130 with note 4.

One is the first known member of STADER (see Hucke, The Counts of Stade, page 9), the other of the WALBECKER Count House; see. Holtzmann, Thietmar edition, introduction p. VIII; Schölkopf, The Saxon Counts, page 73; Lippelt, Thietmar von Merseburg, page 48.

You cannot decide who is listed.

For the relatives of Thietmar in the Merseburg Necrolog see above page 235.

One of the two Liuthare also comes across in the transcript of the Ottonian family necrologue in the brotherhood book of St. Gallen; see. Althoff, Unrecognized Evidence of Liudolfinger's Memory of the Dead; Page 403, where the STADER count is not inadvertently referred to.

Thiele Andreas: Plate 219

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"Narrative genealogical tables on European history"

Volume I, Volume 1 German Emperor, King, Duke and Count Houses I

LOTHAR I, count of Walbeck, in Derlingau and Balsamgau

+ 929 fallen
Was a loyal follower of King HEINRICH I and was his general against the Slavs. He was victorious against the Redarians together with his namesake Lothar II von Stade in the Battle of Lenzen / Prignitz, which collapsed the Slavic uprising.

Widukind by Corvey: page 89

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"The history of Saxony"

The next morning they advanced against the named castle, but the residents laid down their arms and asked only for the life they were given. They should leave Lenzen Castle unarmed. The unfree, however, all the money, the women and children, and all the household items of the barbarian king were won as loot. The two Liuthare [the Counts Liuthar von Walbeck and Liuthar von Stade.] And some other nobles fell from ours in that battle.

Lippelt, Helmut: page 48

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"Thietmar von Merseburg"

So also in the case of Thietmar. His ancestors were closely linked to Saxon history. Both great-grandfathers, Liuthar von Walbeck and Liuthar von Stade, had died in the Battle of Lenzen in 929.

Waitz, Georg: page 130 with note 4

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"Yearbooks of the German Empire under King Heinrich I."

The Saxon army cheered its victory and its leaders. The following day, the city moved forward again, which now surrendered. The loss cannot have been insignificant on the Saxon side either. Two counts are named Liuthar, the ancestors of the historian Thietmar, who stayed

[Ann. Corbei. aaO: de nostris vero duo duces Liutharii, quidam vero vulnerati, alii autem prostrati.

Widukind: Ceciderunt etiam ex nostris in illo prelio duo Liuthari et alii nobiles viri nonnulli. Thietmar I, 6: ex nostris autem dou abavi mei uno nomine, quod Liutheri sonat, signati milites optimi et genere clarissimis, decus et solamen patriae. Non. Sept. cum multis aliis oppetiverunt.

Necrol. Mers., Page 240: Non. (5th) Sept. Liutharius comes cum multis Lunzini obiit.

See the two Counts Raumer, Regesten page 28, and Lappenbergs Stammtafel, SS III page 723.].

Schölkopf, Ruth: page 73

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"The Saxon Counts 919-1024"

The family of the Counts of Walbeck (on the Aller) came into the light of history with the military leader Liutharius, who died on September 5, 929 in the Battle of Lenzen. Together with him, a second Liutharius, the progenitor of the Counts of Stade, suffered the death of a battle in the same position as dux. Bishop Thietmar of Merseburg as the descendant of the Counts von Walbeck on the paternal side and the Counts of Stade on the maternal side mentioned both in his chronicle as his great-grandfathers. He characterized them as milites optimi, mentioned their high lineage: genere clarissimi and gave them the honorable name: decus et solamenpatriae. Widukind, the annals of Corvey and Magdeburg also report their death. September 5 was recorded as the day of death in the Merseburg Book of the Dead.

Liuthar was not considered the ancestor of this sex, which is evident from the mention of his high lineage at Thietmar. The view of Walther Grosses, who has wanted to make the WALBECKER family as noble Saxons since the 6th century in the eastern, northern Harz regions, unsustainable. According to the investigation by Sabine Krüger, one can claim that older Count Lothar as the progenitor of WALBECKER, who appeared as a witness in the Corveyer traditions from 822 and is probably identical to Count Lothar, who is his daughter Regenhild Graf Bernhard, a grandson des dux Hessi (+ 804), gave to the wife. Reginhild's father cannot be identified with the 929 fallen Lothar, as Dingelstädt did in his Walbeck Chronicle, because chronological equation proves impossible. Perhaps a younger Count Lothar, who appeared from 860 and died in the battle against the Danes in 880, belonged to this family.

Thietmar named a count Lothar as his paternal grandfather and thus as the son of the fallen Lothar.

oo NN
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Children:

Lothar II
-21.1.964
daughter
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oo Dietrich Graf von Haldensleben
-25.8.985
Literature:

Althoff Gerd: noble and royal families reflected in their memorial tradition. Studies to commemorate the dead of the Billunger and Ottonen. Wilhelm Fink Verlag Munich 1984, page 204, 235, 412 G 112 - Holtzmann Robert: History of the Saxon Empire. Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag München 1971 page 91- Lippelt, Helmut: Thietmar von Merseburg, Böhlau Verlag Köln 1973 page 48 - Thiele, Andreas: Narrative genealogical family tables on European history Volume I, Part 1, RG Fischer Verlag Frankfurt / Main 1993 Plate 219 - Thietmar von Merseburg: Chronicle of the Darmstadt Scientific Book Association 1992 page 14 - Waitz, Georg: Yearbooks of the German Empire under King Heinrich I, Darmstadt Scientific Book Society 1963 page 130 with note 4 - Widukind by Corvey: The History of Saxony. Philipp Reclam jun. GmbH & Co.,

Leo: European genealogical tables, JA Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: VIII 133.
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