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Données personnelles Roger de St. John 

  • Il est né environ 1221 dans St-Jean-le-Thomas, Manche, Normandy, France.
  • Il est décédé en l'an 1265 dans Compton, Sussex, England.
  • Un enfant de John de St. John et Emma de Harcourt

Famille de Roger de St. John

Waarschuwing Attention: Il part d'un parent avec son épouse (nn le Despenser).

(1) Il a/avait une relation avec nn le Despenser.


Enfant(s):

  1. John St. John  1250-< 1316 


(2) Il a/avait une relation avec Cecily de la Haye.


Enfant(s):

  1. Maud de St John  ± 1125-1149 
  2. Muriel de St. John  ± 1130-1160 


Notes par Roger de St. John

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Roger de St. John, brother of Thomas. In July 1118 with his brother John,he defended the castle of La Motte-Gautier for Henry I against Fulk,Count of Anjou, but was forced to surrender. Before 1121 he gave thechurch of Compton in West Sussex to Lewes Priory. He m. Cecily, daughterof Robert de la Haie, by Muriel, probably daughter of Colswegen,tenant-in-chief in Lincs in 1086 with whom he received the honor ofHalnaker in Sussex. Roger d. in or before 1130. His widow was living in1162 and dead in 1177.

Besides his sons William and Robert, dealt with below, Roger de St. Johnhad a daughter Muriel, who m. an Orval and was the mother of Mabel, wifeof Adam de Port of Basing, through whom both St-Jean-le-Thomas and themanor of Halnaker passed to that family. [Complete Peerage XI:342]

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&;db=jweber&id=I13785
1. Roger de ST. JOHN , of Compton & Halnaker, Sir (John de ST. JOHN , Sir3, William de ST. JOHN , Sir2, Ralph de ST. JOHN1) was born BEF 1097 in St-Jean-le-Thomas, Manche, Normandy, France, and died BEF 1130 in Compton, Sussex, England. He married Cecily de la HAYE , Heiress of Halnaker, daughter of Robert de la HAYE , of Halnaker and Muriel of LINCOLN , Heiress of Brattleby. She was born ABT 1102 in Halnaker, Westhampnett, Sussex, England, and died AFT 1162.

Children of Roger de ST. JOHN , of Compton & Halnaker, Sir and Cecily de la HAYE , Heiress of Halnaker are:

2 i. William de ST. JOHN , of Halnaker was born ABT 1117 in St-Jean-le-Thomas, Manche, Normandy, France, and died ABT 1189 in Halnaker, Westhampnett, Sussex, England (dsp). He married Olive of BRITTANY BEF 1162 in 2nd husband 1st wife, daughter of Stephen Count of BRITTANY , Baron of Richmond and Hawise SOURDEVAL. She was born ABT 1110 in Penthievre, Morbihan, Bretagne, France, and died BEF 1187.
+ 3 ii. Muriel de ST. JOHN , Heir of Halnaker & St-Jean was born ABT 1129 in St-Jean-le-Thomas, Manche, Normandy, France, and died Deceased in Halnaker, Westhampnett, Sussex, England.

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Biography
"Sir John de St. John died 1230, leaving a widow, Emma, and a son, Roger St. John; and this same year Geoffrey Le Despencer, Lord of Marcheley or Marteley, Worcestershire, married the said Emma, giving £100 for the wardship of her son Roger St. John, the first and last Baron St. John of Stanton." [1]
"Sir John Le Despencer, as well as Roger de St. John, joined the Barons in the great civil struggle against Henry III., and they both attended the celebrated Council summoned at Oxford in 1258, commonly known as 'the Mad Parliament.'" [2]
1262 Feb 5, Roger de Sancto Johanne, Lageham in Walkested (Lagham Manor). Roger St John. [3]
"In 1265 Roger de St. John was killed at the battle of Evesham, his estates were confiscated, and ' Swaluefelde and one messuage and one carucate of lands in Beaumys with woods and rents and all appurts ' were granted to Roger de Leybourne, and in Charter Roll 49 Hen. III. we read that ' only a messuage in Beaumys remained the property of Sir John Le Despencer.'" [4]
Notes
28 Jan 1254: "The like to Roger de Sancto Johanne of free warren in all his demesne lands of Barthon, co. Oxford, and Shiningefeld co. Berks. Witnesses as above." [5]
12 Jun 1265: "Power to Simon de Monte Forti, earl of Leicester and steward of England, and to Roger de Sancto Johanne the king's secretary, to treat in the king's name with Llewelin son of Griffin touching all discords between him and the king." [6]
The Arms shown are recorded by the Heralds for Roger de Saint John, about three weeks after the Battle of Caerlaverock (c. 1300), as having been borne by knights present with Edward I on his Scottish campaign. Since this Roger is shown as d. in 1265, we can safely assume he was not present at the battle and that someone else in this line bore them.

At least some St Johns are using these arms c. 1240, and appear on The Glover's Roll of Arms. Whether this Legeham line did, or not, is another matter.
Sources
↑ Swallowfield and its owners, p 12 [1]
↑ Swallowfield and its owners, p 19 [2]
↑ Wikipedia contributors, "List of licences to crenellate," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, [3] (accessed April 27, 2017).
↑ Swallowfield and its owners, p 20 [4]
↑ Henry III, vol. 4, p. 263 [5]
↑ Henry III, vol. 5, p. 432 [6]
Baronia Anglica Concentrata, Vol I, p 403-404 [7]

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Ancêtres (et descendants) de Roger de St. John

John de St. John
± 1066-1110
Emma de Harcourt
1206-± 1265

Roger de St. John
± 1221-1265

(1) 
John St. John
1250-< 1316
(2) 

Cecily de la Haye
± 1114-± 1162

Maud de St John
± 1125-1149
Muriel de St. John
± 1130-1160

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