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Données personnelles Robert I "de Grote" van Frankrijk 

• Le surnom est de Grote.
• Il est né entre le 1124 et le 1126.
• Titre: Graaf, van Dreux
• Il est décédé octobre 1188.
• Un enfant de Lodewijk VI van Frankrijk et Adelheid van Maurienne

Famille de Robert I "de Grote" van Frankrijk

(1) Il est marié avec Agnes de Baudement.

Ils se sont mariés.

Enfant(s):

1. Robert II de Dreux  ± 1153-1218 
2. Alix de Dreux  ± 1156-> 1217 

(2) Il est marié avec Hawise de Salisbury.

Ils se sont mariés.

Notes par Robert I "de Grote" van Frankrijk

ROBERT de France ([1124/26]-Braine [10/12] Oct 1188, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). William of Tyre names him as brother of Louis VII King of France[405]. He was installed as ROBERT I "le Grand" Seigneur de Dreux in 1152.

ROBERT de France, son of LOUIS VI King of France & his wife Adélaïde de Maurienne [Savoie] ([1124/26]-Braine [10/12] Oct 1188, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "patruus regis Philippi, comes Robertus" when recording his marriages and children[15]. William of Tyre names him as brother of Louis VII King of France[16]. He left on the Second Crusade with his brother King Louis VII in Jun 1147[17]. Regent and Comte du Perche, by right of his second wife, during the minority of her sons. Seigneur de Braine 1152, by right of his third wife. In compensation for the loss of Perche, his brother Louis VII installed him as Seigneur de Dreux in 1152. "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[18]. He resigned Dreux to his eldest son in 1184. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "VI Id Oct" of "Robertus Drocensis comes frater Ludovici regis Francorum"[19]. The necrology of Orléans Cathedral records the death “IV Id Oct” of “Robertus comes”[20].

[Du Chesne suggests that Agnes de Garlande, widow of Amaury [III] de Montfort Comte d’Evreux, married, as her second husband and his first wife, Robert de France Seigneur de Dreux[21]. He bases this on a charter dated to [1 Nov 1183/31 Mar 1184] in which Philippe II King of France confirmed the property of Notre-Dame de Colombs, including property "in loco Campus à la Drouë" donated by "Robertus comes de Drocis et de Montfort" and "domum de là Nouë" donated by "Simon de Drocis in sua ultima voluntate"[22]. Du Chesne’s argument is that Robert Seigneur de Dreux could only have been entitled to "le titre de comte de Montfort, don’t le roy le rehausse" from "un mariage fait avec la douairiere de la mesme comté". He also suggests that "Simon de Drocis", also named in the same charter, was the son of this marriage. There are three difficulties with Du Chesne’s argument. Firstly, Amaury [III] de Montfort was comte d’Evreux not "comte de Montfort", a title which does not appear ever to have been borne by members of his family. Secondly, the chronology is unfavourable for the widow of Amaury [III], who was probably born in [1110/15] at the latest, to have married Robert de Dreux whose birth is estimated to [1124/26]. Thirdly, it is unlikely that Agnes would have given the name Simon to a son born from this supposed second marriage, given that she already had a son of that name by her marriage to Amaury. In conclusion, the evidence of the [1183/84] charter alone is insufficient to corroborate this marriage.]

m firstly ([1144/45]) as her second husband, HAWISE de Salisbury, widow of ROTROU [II] Comte du Perche Seigneur de Bellême, daughter of WALTER FitzEdward Earl of Salisbury & his wife Sibylle de Chaources [Chaworth] (-13 Jan before 1152). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the first wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" as "matrem…comitis Rotroldi de Pertico, natam de Salesberia"[23]. Robert of Torigny records that "uxorem…suam [comitis Perticensis Rotrodi]" was later given by "Ludovicus rex Francorum [to] Roberto fratri suo"[24]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "Id Jan" of "Amicia comitissa Perticensis mater Rotrodi militis"[25], although if this entry correctly refers to Hawise it is surprising that there is no reference which would indicate her second marriage.

m secondly (1152) as her second husband, AGNES de Baudémont Dame de Braine, widow of MILON [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine, daughter and heiress of GUY de Baudément Seigneur de Braine & his wife Alix Dame de Braine (1130-24 Jul 1204, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes nobilis de Barro super Sequanam" as second wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum", specifying that she was "mater comitisse Petronille"[26]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified. "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[27]. "R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum " by charter dated Jul 1212[28], although the document is incorrectly dated assuming that the death date of Agnes is correct as shown above. The Chronicon Fiscannensis Cœnobii records the death in 1204 of "Agnes Comitissa Branæ"[29]. The necrology of Orléans Cathedral records the death “IX Kal Aug” of “Agnes comitissa de Brena”[30].

Robert [I] & his first wife had one child:
ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux).

Robert I & his second wife had [eleven] children:
ROBERT [II] de Dreux
SIMON de Dreux
HENRI de Dreux ([1155]-on a journey to Rome 25 Apr 1199)
ALIX de Dreux ([1156]-after Feb 1217)
PHILIPPE de Dreux ([1158]-4 Nov 1217, bur Beauvais Cathedral)
ISABELLE de Dreux ([1160]-1239)
PIERRE de Dreux ([1161]-after 1185)
GUILLAUME de Dreux ([1163]-after 1189)
JEAN de Dreux ([1164]-after 1189, bur Dreux, église Saint-Etienne)
MAMILIE de Dreux ([1166]-1200)
MARGUERITE de Dreux ([1167]-after 1187).

Bronnen:

[15] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.

[16] William of Tyre XXI.XXX, p. 1058.

[17] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, pp. 253 and 259.

[18] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6.

[19] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 102.

[20] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Cathédrale d’Orléans, Livre de Distributions du XVI siècle, p. 109.

[21] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, p. 14.

[22] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 47.

[23] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845, and 1219, p. 909 where it is specified that she was "nata…de Anglia filia comitis Salesberiensis".

[24] Robert de Torigny, Tome I, 1144, p. 234.

[25] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 33.

[26] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.

[27] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6.

[28] Notre-Dame de la Trappe II, p. 2.

[29] Ex Chronico Fiscannensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 350.

[30] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Cathédrale d’Orléans, Livre de Distributions du XVI siècle, p. 79.

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