Arbre généalogique Homs » Robert I de Namur (± 946-± 981)

Données personnelles Robert I de Namur 

• Il est né environ 925 TO ABT 946 dans Namur, *920/25, Région Wallonne, BelgiqueNamur, Région Wallonne.
• Professions:
• dans Count of Lomme.
• .

  {geni:job_title} Comte, de Namur

• .

  {geni:job_title} Graaf van een deel van de Lommegau

• Il est décédé environ 981 TO ABT 981 dans Lomme,Nord,France.
• Un enfant de Berenger I de Namur et Symphoriane von der Darnau
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 16 mars 2012.

Famille de Robert I de Namur

Il avait une relation avec Ermengarde de Lorraine.

Enfant(s):

1. Albert I de Namur  ± 978-± 1011 

Notes par Robert I de Namur

Weis, p. 131: Count of Lomme

Name Prefix: Count Name Suffix: I, Of Namur

Name Prefix: Count Name Suffix: I, Of Namur

Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I16746
# D: I16746
# Name: Count Of Namur ROBERT I 1 2
# Sex: M
# Birth: 916 in Namur, Belgium 1 2
# Death: 981 in Namur, Belgium 1 2
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 2
# Note:

[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

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4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004

[daveanthes.FTW]

DATE 29 APR 2000

OCCU Count of Namur ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 274 says BEF 947;
HAWKINS.GED says ABT 950;
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family says 980;
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 973;
HAWKINS.GED says 981
Count of Luxembourg - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Count of Lomme; liv 946 -
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 274

Father: Berenger Of NAMUR b: 886 in Namur, Belgium
Mother: Symphorienne of LORRAINE b: 888 in Hainaut, Belgium

Marriage 1 Ermengarde of LORRAINE b: ABT 915 in Lorainne, France

Children

1. Has Children Albert NAMUR I b: ABT 946 in

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2. Title: Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED
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{geni:occupation} Comte, de Namur, COUNT OF LOMME, Graaf van een deel van de Lommegau

{geni:about_me} http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#RobertIdiedbefore981

*1. '''ROBERT [I] ([920/25]-before 981). ''' Robert succeeded as Comte de Namur, maybe as direct successor to Berengar as no documentary record has been found of another intervening count in the area, although this is not certain. The earliest reference to Robert is the charter dated 2 Jun 946 under which "Rotbertus comes" donated the villa of Melin "in comitatu meo" to the abbey of Waulsort[13]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[14], Robert was the son of Berengar. However, the only evidence so far identified that Robert may have been a descendant of Berengar is provided by the Vita Gerardi Abbatis Broniense which records that "comes Berengarius Nammucensi castro præsidebat" commenting that "cuius stirpis posteritas ibidem hactenus perstat"[15]. This convoluted reference suggests that the relationship may have been less direct than father/son: maybe Robert was Berengar's grandson, the son of Berengar's daughter. This appears to be corroborated by the chronology of the births in the family. If Giselbert, son of Robert [I], was born in [955/60], it is unlikely that his father was born before [920/25] at the earliest, bearing in mind that he was presumably an adult at the time of the 946 charter. Assuming that the birth date range of Berengar is correct as shown above, Robert would most likely have been born earlier than this if he had been Berengar's son. The fact that Robert named his second son Giselbert also suggests a family connection with Berengar, whose wife was the sister of Giselbert Duke of Lotharingia, although it is somewhat surprising that the name Berengar itself is not repeated among Robert's descendants. Another indication of Robert's family background is provided by the Gesta Abbatum Gemblacensium which names "Rotbertus…comes Namucensis" as the most powerful of the "cæteri fratres et nepotes pii patris nostri [Wicperti]", while recording that he oppressed the abbey of Gembloux[16]. If this is correct, Robert's maternal grandmother was Osburga, whose first husband was St Wicbert's father (see Chapter 5.A). "Otto…rex" granted property "quod Ymmo in villa Castra et in pago Darnegouue ac in comitatu Rotberti comitis" to "fideli nostro Tietboldo" by charter dated 11 Jun 958[17]. Flodoard's Annals record that in 960 "Rotbertus", enemy of Bruno Archbishop of Köln (son of Henrich I King of Germany), fortified "Namuurum castrum" against the archbishop[18]. "Rotbertus comes" subscribed a charter dated 961 under which Erluin abbé of Gembloux exchanged property[19]. The Gesta Abbatum Lobiensium names "comite Roberto" and records that "Ratherius" died "apud Namurcum"[20], an event dated elsewhere to 974. m ---. Thierry Stasser suggests that the wife of Robert [I] Comte de Namur may have been [Liutgarde], daughter of Adalbert Graf [von Metz], emphasising that this is purely speculative based only on onomastics[21]. Comte Robert [I] & his wife had [five] children:

**a) ALBERT (-shortly before 1011). Albert, Gislebert and Ratbod are named as sons of Comte Robert in a charter dated 981[22]. He succeeded as ALBERT I Comte de Namur. - see below.
**b) GISELBERT ([955/60]-). ...
**c) RATBOD [Robert] . ...
**d) son (-[before 981]). ...
**e) [LIUTGARDE . ... m ARNOUL [II] Comte de Cambrai, son of ARNOUL [I] Comte de Cambrai & his wife Berta --- (-23 Oct 1012).]

from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

32nd great grandfather

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