Arbre généalogique Homs » Bégon husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude (Bégon , husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude) "Bego I de Flavigny" de Paris Comte de Paris (± 840-916)

Données personnelles Bégon husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude (Bégon , husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude) "Bego I de Flavigny" de Paris Comte de Paris 

• Le surnom est Bego I de Flavigny.
• Il est né environ 750 TO ABT 840 dans Paris, Seine, France.
• Baptisé (à 8 ans ou plus tard) par l'autorité de la prêtrise de l'église SDJ le 27 juin 1938.
• Alternative: Baptisé (à 8 ans ou plus tard) par l'autorité de la prêtrise de l'église SDJ le 27 juin 1938.
• Professions:
• dans Comte DE Paris.

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• dans Count of Paris.

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• dans Count of Paris.

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• dans Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine.

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• environ 776 .

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  {geni:job_title} Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine

• Il est décédé le 28 OCT 816 TO ABT 916 dans Paris,Seine,France.
• Il est enterré dans Paris, Seine, Ile de France, France.
• Un enfant de Gérard de Paris et Rotrou d'Austrasie
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 31 décembre 2011.

Famille de Bégon husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude (Bégon , husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude) "Bego I de Flavigny" de Paris Comte de Paris

Il est marié avec Alpaïs de Paris.

Ils se sont mariés environ 803 à Paris, Ile-de-France, France.

Enfant(s):

1. Susanne de Paris  ± 809-± 865 
2. Engeltron de Paris  ± 810-???? 
3. Landrée de Paris  ± 804-???? 
4. Leuthard II de Paris  ± 816-899 

Notes par Bégon husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude (Bégon , husband of Alpaida - daughter of Charlemagne & Amaltrude) "Bego I de Flavigny" de Paris Comte de Paris

Name Prefix: Count

Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine

Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine

Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine

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Beggo of Paris
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beggo (died 816) was the son of Gerard I of Paris and Rotrude, daughter of Carloman, son of Charles Martel. He was appointed Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March in 806 and followed his father as Count of Paris in 815.

In 806, William of Gellone abdicated and Charlemagne appointed Beggo to take his place in Toulouse and Gothia. He did not succeed his father in Paris, but was later placed in the comital office there, but did not live long after that.

He married Alpais, illegitimate daughter of Louis the Pious. They had three children:

Leuthard II, who later ruled Paris
Eberhard
Susanna
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[Weis 164] Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine, 776.

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Begue was alive in the year 776. Married before 802:
Alpis=Aupais de Paris , daughter of Charlemagne, Rex
Francorum et Langobardorum and Luitgard N?
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#Générale##Générale#Profession : Comte de Paris.

{geni:occupation} chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine; Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March, Count of Paris, (Beggo Bego Beggen); chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine; Count of Toulouse, ABT 0770 - 28 OCT 0816

{geni:about_me} =The Problem of Count Begue & his 3 possible wives=

Count Begue/Beggo/ Begon has 2 (or 3) equally likely wives according to original sources – but sharing descendents Luithard, Eberhard, Susanna:

Either his wife (and mother of these 3 kids) was Charlemagne’s daughter:

'''1) Alpaida (by Adaltrude)''', or

'''2) Amaudra (by Himiltrude)''' - less convincingly sourced than the other two, at the moment ,

=or she was Charlemagne’s granddaughter:=

= 3) Alpais (through his son, Louis I)=

'''Sources:''' From Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands database
From Charles Cawley's [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc169575355 Medieval Lands database]

['''BEGO''' ([755/60]-28 Oct 816). The primary source which establishes that Bego was the son of Gerard has not so far been identified. Marquis de Septimanie: Bego governed the county of Toulouse as "marchio" for Septimania from 806. He was chambrier, equivalent to viceroy, for Louis King of Aquitaine (son of Emperor Charlemagne)[65]. Comte de Paris in [815], succeeding comte Stephanus. He founded the Abbey of Saint-Maur-des-Fossés near Paris. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death "V Kal Nov" of "Begoni comitis"[66].

[m firstly ---. There is no proof of this possible first marriage of Bego. However, as noted below, if his wife Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, there would have been a considerable age difference between her and Bego, which suggests the possibility of an earlier marriage.]

m [secondly] ([806]) '''ALPAIS, illegitimate daughter of [Emperor LOUIS I & his mistress ---]''' ([793/94]-23 Jul 852 or after, bur [Reims]). Flodoard refers to "Ludowicus Alpheidi filie sue uxori Begonis comitis"[67]. The Annales Hildesheimenses name "filiam imperatoris…Elpheid" as the wife of "Bicgo de amici regis" when recording the death of her husband[68]. Settipani discusses the debate about the paternity of Alpais, preferring the theory that Emperor Charles I was her father[69]. If Emperor Louis was her father, it is unlikely that she was born before [793/94], given his known birth date in 778. It would therefore be chronologically tight for her to have had [three] children by her husband before his death in 816.
[Sharon’s Note: Not really – it makes her 23yrs old when he dies. Charlemagne’s wife Hildegard had had 9 children by the time she died at 23 or 24yrs]
However, no indication has been found in primary sources of the ages of these children when their father died. The question of her paternity is obviously not beyond doubt, but it is felt preferable to show her as the probable daughter of Emperor Louis in view of the clear statement in Flodoard. If Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, it is likely that she was not her husband's only wife in view of his estimated birth date. After her husband died, she became abbess of Saint-Pierre-le-Bas at Reims in [817]. She was still there 29 May 852.

Bego & his [second] wife had three children:

i) LIUTHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[70].

ii) EBERHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[71].

iii) SUSANNA ([805/10]-). The primary source which establishes that Susanna was the daughter of Bego has not so far been identified. "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino" by charter dated 2 Nov 889[72]. m ([825/30]) VULFHARD, son of ---.

'''STATUS OF DEBATE by Curators Justin, Pam, Ben, Sharon (DISCUSSION INVITED) - Jan 2011''': The 10th Century chronicler, Flodoard is a primary source, while both Cawley and Settipani are secondary sources - presenting conflicting conclusions. Settipani (arguing for Charlemagne's daughter), contradicts Flodoard (arguing for Louis' daughter), based on consideration of other primary sources (which we haven't found). Cawley appears to be most likely to dominate because, although Settipani's conclusions are possibly more accurate, Cawley is more available to Geni users on the net.

'''MY (Sharon) STRATEGIC SOLUTION HAS BEEN TO INSERT BEGUE in ALL 3 POSITIONS, & TRY TO USE THE CURATOR NOTE TO AVOID MERGES BETWEEN THEM.'''

='''Bego, Count of Paris, Marquis de Septimanie, Chambrier for Louis King of Aquitaine'''=

probable son of '''Gerard I Comte de Paris''' and '''Rotrou'''

married (1) ???; (2) '''Alpais''', likely daughter of Louis I and unknown concubine

Children:
* '''Liuthard'''
* '''Eberhard'''
* '''Susanna'''

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Wikipedia:

Beggo (died 816) was the son of Gerard I of Paris and Rotrude, daughter of Carloman, son of Charles Martel. He was appointed Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March in 806 and followed his father as Count of Paris in 815.

In 806, William of Gellone abdicated and Charlemagne appointed Beggo to take his place in Toulouse and Gothia. He did not succeed his father in Paris, but was later placed in the comital office there, but did not live long after that.

He married Alpais, illegitimate daughter of Louis the Pious. They had three children:

* Leuthard II, who later ruled Paris

* Eberhard

* Landrade

* Susanna

* Engeltrude

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From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps05/ps05_126.htm

Begue was Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine in 776. He is also known as Bego II.

References: [RFC],[AR7]

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Beggan (Bego) Count of Paris1,2

b. between 755 and 760, d. 28 October 816, #29459

Father Girard Count of Paris3 b. before 745, d. circa 755

Mother Rotrude of Austrasia3 b. circa 734

Family 1 Williburga d. before 789

Child 1.Engeltrude or Engeltron+ b. c 78212

Family 2 Alpais b. circa 790, d. 29 May 852

Children 1.Count Eberhard of Paris+ b. c 800, d. b 83217

2.Susanna+ b. b 81618

3.Landrée de Paris+ b. c 8164

Children of this marriage are often given as: Eberhard, Leuthard, Engeltron (F) and Suzanna.

The main difference from Werner's reconstruction is that

>> Hlawitschka has Susanna as the child of Bego by a first marriage and not by Alpais. That Bego had such a marriage is highly likely since he was 45/50 by the time of his marriage with Alpais. It is also certain that Susanna was Bego's daughter. If Susanna had been the daughter of Alpais then the marriage of Susanna's granddaughter, Adelheid, to Louis the Stammerer would have been within the prohibited degrees (4:2 through Louis the Pious).

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Beggo (died 816) was the son of Gerard I of Paris and Rotrude, daughter of Carloman, son of Charles Martel. He was appointed Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March in 806 and followed his father as Count of Paris in 815.

In 806, William of Gellone abdicated and Charlemagne appointed Beggo to take his place in Toulouse and Gothia. He did not succeed his father in Paris, but was later placed in the comital office there, but did not live long after that.

He married either Amaudru, illegitimate daughter of Charlemagne or her niece, Alpais, illegitimate daughter of Louis the Pious. They had three children:

Leuthard II, who later ruled Paris
Eberhard
Landrade
Susanna
Engeltrude
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggo,_Count_of_Toulouse
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http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9gon_de_Paris

'''Bégon de Paris'''

Bégon de Paris (v. 755/760-28 octobre 816) comte de Paris, comte de Toulouse et marquis de Septimanie (Maison des Girardides).

Biographie[modifier]
Bégon[1] est le fils du comte Gérard Ier de Paris. Il a pour frères les comtes Étienne de Paris (v.754 - † 811/815) et Leuthard Ier de Paris († vers 813).

Vers 806, il épouse Alpaïs[2](793/794 - † 23 juillet 852 ou après), laquelle est soit une fille de l'empereur Louis le Pieux soit une fille illégitime de Charlemagne. Il a les enfants suivants :

Le futur comte Leuthard II de Paris
Eberhard
probablement Landrade, qui épouse le comte Donat Ier de Melun (v.790 - † ap.858/av.871)[3], et ont comme enfants[4] :
Gosselin (ou Gozlin), comte de Bassigny ;
Gontier ;
Hugues ;
Waltrude ;
Robert, évêque du Mans ;
Boson ;
Suzanne qui épouse le comte Vulfard de Flavigny avec lequel elle a pour enfants :
Le futur archevêque Vulfard de Bourges (liste des archevêques de Bourges)
Le futur comte Vulgrin Ier d'Angoulême
Le futur comte Adalhard de Paris (vers 830 - † ap. 890), père d'Adélaïde de Frioul, reine de France par mariage avec le roi Louis II de France.
Hilduin, abbé de l'abbaye de Saint-Denis
Ymo ou Immo
Hildeburge
Il est nommé chambrier du roi Louis d'Aquitaine (et futur empereur d'Occident 814-840, fils de Charlemagne).

À partir de 806, il devient comte de Toulouse et marquis de Septimanie dont il contrôle la marche en remplacement de Guillaume de Gellone.

En 815, il succède à son frère Étienne de Paris au titre de comte de Paris et contribue à la prospérité de l'abbaye Saint-Pierre-du-Fossé.

Il meurt le 28 octobre 816. Son frère Leuthard Ier de Paris lui succède comme comte de Paris.

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Beggo, Count of Toulouse

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Beggo (died 816) was the son of Gerard I of Paris and Rotrude, daughter of Carloman, son of Charles Martel. He was appointed Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March in 806 and followed his father as Count of Paris in 815.

In 806, William of Gellone abdicated and Charlemagne appointed Beggo to take his place in Toulouse and Gothia. He did not succeed his father in Paris, but was later placed in the comital office there, but did not live long after that.

He married either '''Amaudru, illegitimate daughter of Charlemagne''' or her niece, '''Alpais, illegitimate daughter of Louis the Pious'''. They had three children:

# Leuthard II, who later ruled Paris
# Eberhard
# Landrade
# Susanna
# Engeltrude

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=The Problem of Count Begue & his 3 possible wives=

Count Begue/Beggo/ Begon has 2 (or 3) equally likely wives according to original sources – but sharing descendents Luithard, Eberhard, Susanna:

Either his wife (and mother of these 3 kids) was Charlemagne’s daughter:

1) '''Alpaida (by Amaltrude)''', or

'''2) Amaudra (by Himiltrude)''' - less convincingly sourced than the other two, at the moment ,

or she was Charlemagne’s granddaughter:

'''3) Alpais (through his son, Louis I)'''

'''Sources:''' From Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands database
From Charles Cawley's [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc169575355 Medieval Lands database]

['''BEGO''' ([755/60]-28 Oct 816). The primary source which establishes that Bego was the son of Gerard has not so far been identified. Marquis de Septimanie: Bego governed the county of Toulouse as "marchio" for Septimania from 806. He was chambrier, equivalent to viceroy, for Louis King of Aquitaine (son of Emperor Charlemagne)[65]. Comte de Paris in [815], succeeding comte Stephanus. He founded the Abbey of Saint-Maur-des-Fossés near Paris. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death "V Kal Nov" of "Begoni comitis"[66].

[m firstly ---. There is no proof of this possible first marriage of Bego. However, as noted below, if his wife Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, there would have been a considerable age difference between her and Bego, which suggests the possibility of an earlier marriage.]

m [secondly] ([806]) '''ALPAIS, illegitimate daughter of [Emperor LOUIS I & his mistress ---]''' ([793/94]-23 Jul 852 or after, bur [Reims]). Flodoard refers to "Ludowicus Alpheidi filie sue uxori Begonis comitis"[67]. The Annales Hildesheimenses name "filiam imperatoris…Elpheid" as the wife of "Bicgo de amici regis" when recording the death of her husband[68]. Settipani discusses the debate about the paternity of Alpais, preferring the theory that Emperor Charles I was her father[69]. If Emperor Louis was her father, it is unlikely that she was born before [793/94], given his known birth date in 778. It would therefore be chronologically tight for her to have had [three] children by her husband before his death in 816.
[Sharon’s Note: Not really – it makes her 23yrs old when he dies. Charlemagne’s wife Hildegard had had 9 children by the time she died at 23 or 24yrs]
However, no indication has been found in primary sources of the ages of these children when their father died. The question of her paternity is obviously not beyond doubt, but it is felt preferable to show her as the probable daughter of Emperor Louis in view of the clear statement in Flodoard. If Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, it is likely that she was not her husband's only wife in view of his estimated birth date. After her husband died, she became abbess of Saint-Pierre-le-Bas at Reims in [817]. She was still there 29 May 852.

Bego & his [second] wife had three children:

i) LIUTHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[70].

ii) EBERHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[71].

iii) SUSANNA ([805/10]-). The primary source which establishes that Susanna was the daughter of Bego has not so far been identified. "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino" by charter dated 2 Nov 889[72]. m ([825/30]) VULFHARD, son of ---.

'''STATUS OF DEBATE by Curators Justin, Pam, Ben, Sharon (DISCUSSION INVITED) - Jan 2011''': The 10th Century chronicler, Flodoard is a primary source, while both Cawley and Settipani are secondary sources - presenting conflicting conclusions. Settipani (arguing for Charlemagne's daughter), contradicts Flodoard (arguing for Louis' daughter), based on consideration of other primary sources (which we haven't found). Cawley appears to be most likely to dominate because, although Settipani's conclusions are possibly more accurate, Cawley is more available to Geni users on the net.

'''MY (Sharon) STRATEGIC SOLUTION HAS BEEN TO INSERT BEGUE in ALL 3 POSITIONS, & TRY TO USE THE CURATOR NOTE TO AVOID MERGES BETWEEN THEM.'''

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=The Problem of Count Begue & his 3 possible wives=

Count Begue/Beggo/ Begon has 2 (or 3) equally likely wives according to original sources – but sharing descendents Luithard, Eberhard, Susanna:

Either his wife (and mother of these 3 kids) was Charlemagne’s daughter:

=1) Alpaida (by Amaltrude), or

'''2) Amaudra (by Himiltrude)''' - less convincingly sourced than the other two, at the moment ,

or she was Charlemagne’s granddaughter:

'''3) Alpais (through his son, Louis I)'''

'''Sources:''' From Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands database
From Charles Cawley's [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc169575355 Medieval Lands database]

['''BEGO''' ([755/60]-28 Oct 816). The primary source which establishes that Bego was the son of Gerard has not so far been identified. Marquis de Septimanie: Bego governed the county of Toulouse as "marchio" for Septimania from 806. He was chambrier, equivalent to viceroy, for Louis King of Aquitaine (son of Emperor Charlemagne)[65]. Comte de Paris in [815], succeeding comte Stephanus. He founded the Abbey of Saint-Maur-des-Fossés near Paris. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death "V Kal Nov" of "Begoni comitis"[66].

[m firstly ---. There is no proof of this possible first marriage of Bego. However, as noted below, if his wife Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, there would have been a considerable age difference between her and Bego, which suggests the possibility of an earlier marriage.]

m [secondly] ([806]) '''ALPAIS, illegitimate daughter of [Emperor LOUIS I & his mistress ---]''' ([793/94]-23 Jul 852 or after, bur [Reims]). Flodoard refers to "Ludowicus Alpheidi filie sue uxori Begonis comitis"[67]. The Annales Hildesheimenses name "filiam imperatoris…Elpheid" as the wife of "Bicgo de amici regis" when recording the death of her husband[68]. Settipani discusses the debate about the paternity of Alpais, preferring the theory that Emperor Charles I was her father[69]. If Emperor Louis was her father, it is unlikely that she was born before [793/94], given his known birth date in 778. It would therefore be chronologically tight for her to have had [three] children by her husband before his death in 816.
[Sharon’s Note: Not really – it makes her 23yrs old when he dies. Charlemagne’s wife Hildegard had had 9 children by the time she died at 23 or 24yrs]
However, no indication has been found in primary sources of the ages of these children when their father died. The question of her paternity is obviously not beyond doubt, but it is felt preferable to show her as the probable daughter of Emperor Louis in view of the clear statement in Flodoard. If Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, it is likely that she was not her husband's only wife in view of his estimated birth date. After her husband died, she became abbess of Saint-Pierre-le-Bas at Reims in [817]. She was still there 29 May 852.

Bego & his [second] wife had three children:

i) LIUTHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[70].

ii) EBERHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[71].

iii) SUSANNA ([805/10]-). The primary source which establishes that Susanna was the daughter of Bego has not so far been identified. "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino" by charter dated 2 Nov 889[72]. m ([825/30]) VULFHARD, son of ---.

'''STATUS OF DEBATE by Curators Justin, Pam, Ben, Sharon (DISCUSSION INVITED) - Jan 2011''': The 10th Century chronicler, Flodoard is a primary source, while both Cawley and Settipani are secondary sources - presenting conflicting conclusions. Settipani (arguing for Charlemagne's daughter), contradicts Flodoard (arguing for Louis' daughter), based on consideration of other primary sources (which we haven't found). Cawley appears to be most likely to dominate because, although Settipani's conclusions are possibly more accurate, Cawley is more available to Geni users on the net.

'''MY (Sharon) STRATEGIC SOLUTION HAS BEEN TO INSERT BEGUE in ALL 3 POSITIONS, & TRY TO USE THE CURATOR NOTE TO AVOID MERGES BETWEEN THEM.'''

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Beggo (Beggan) II Count of Paris1

b. circa 822, d. after 23 April 861, #30128

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Father Count Eberhard of Paris1 b. circa 800, d. before 832

Birth*circa 822Beggo (Beggan) II was born circa 822 at Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France.1

Marriage*circa 845Beggo (Beggan) II Count of Paris married Alpaide Princess of France, daughter of Louis I The Pious King of France, Holy Roman Emperor and Judith of Bavaria & Swabia, circa 845.1

Death*after 23 April 861

Beggo (Beggan) II died after 23 April 861.1

Family Alpaide Princess of France b. circa 825

Child 1.Adelaide of Paris+ b. c 848, d. c 10 Nov 9011

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from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

Hij stichtte de abdij van Saint-Maur-des-Fossés bij Parijs

Beggo (died 816) was the son of Gerard I of Paris and Rotrude, daughter of Carloman, son of Charles Martel. He was appointed Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March in 806 and followed his father as Count of Paris in 815.

In 806, William of Gellone abdicated and Charlemagne appointed Beggo to take his place in Toulouse and Gothia. He did not succeed his father in Paris, but was later placed in the comital office there, but did not live long after that.

He married Alpais, illegitimate daughter of Louis the Pious. They had three children:

Leuthard II, who later ruled Paris
Eberhard
Susanna

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[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 185, 250, 269, 350; Kraentzler; A. Roots 191; NEHGR v99; AF. Roots: Begue (Bogo), Count of Paris. Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine, 776. Died 816.

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 185, 250, 269, 350; Kraentzler; A. Roots 191; NEHGR v99; AF. Roots: Begue (Bogo), Count of Paris. Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine, 776. Died 816.

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 185, 250, 269, 350; Kraentzler; A. Roots 191; NEHGR v99; AF. Roots: Begue (Bogo), Count of Paris. Chamberlain of Louis of Aquitaine, 776. Died 816.

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