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Données personnelles Godfried van Rhenen Aarschot 

• Il est né en l'an 1082.
• Titre: Graaf
• Il est décédé le 27 mai 1178, il avait 96 ans.
• Un enfant de Arnout II van Aarschot
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 30 juin 2020.

Famille de Godfried van Rhenen Aarschot

Il a/avait une relation avec Sophia van Kleef van Bemmel.

Enfant(s):

1. Dirck Godfriedzn. van Rhenen  ± 1110-± 1178 

Notes par Godfried van Rhenen Aarschot

{geni:about_me} -http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#GodfriedAerschotdiedafter1139

2. GODFRIED [I] van Aarschot (-after 1139). It is assumed that Godfried [I] was related to the family of the Graven van Aarschot but the identity of his father is not known. Speculation about his possible position in the reconstructed family appears fruitless until more information is available which might pinpoint his estimated birth date range more precisely. The difficulty is that we have no precise idea about the date of his marriage, because we do not know the date of death of his wife´s second husband, Fastré de Fossé. If Godfried was about the same age as his wife Emmissa, he would have been born before [1090] (considering that she is recorded as already married to her second husband in 1107). This would suggest that Godfried may have been the brother of Arnout [III] (see below). According to Liekens, he received land at Lier as his inheritance and was ancestor of the van Lier family[557]. However, the chronology shows that it is unlikely that Godfried, husband of Emmissa, was the father of Willem van Lier, ancestor of the van Lier family (see below Part C.). Coldeweij speculates that Godfried [I] van Aarschot may have been the '''same person as Godfried van Renen''', pointing out that "the Renen family owned property in Perk, Anderlecht and Dilbeek near Brussels. This was the area where the oldest lands of the counts of Leuven lay"[558]. If this is correct, Emmissa would have been Godfried´s second wife, Coldeweij suggesting that Sophia van Bemmel, daughter of Dirk van Bemmel, was his first wife. The fact that Godfried was Emmissa´s third husband does suggest that he may have been married before, but no information has been found which would indicate even approximately the date of the Godfried/Emmissa marriage. In addition, in Coldeweij´s scenario, Godfried would have been "…Godefridus de Rinen et filius eius Hugo…" who witnessed a charter dated 18 Oct 1145 under which Heinrich III King of Germany confirmed the rights of the church of Utrecht in the counties of Ostergau and Westergau[559]. Coldeweij´s hypothesis would altogether exclude this Godfried being the ancestor of the van Lier family. It is possible that he was the '''same person as "…Godefridi de Arescod…"''' who subscribed the charter dated 1107 under which his future wife "Emmissa quæ cognominor comitissa, Isaac et Maltheldis filia, Fastrei de Fossato conjunx" granted revenue rights to the church of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Valenciennes[560]. If this is correct, it would probably place Godfried´s birth date in [1080/90]. This could be chronologically consistent with his having been the brother of Arnout [III], although the estimated birth date of the latter is very approximate. “...Godefridus de Arescoth...” witnessed the charter dated 1117 under which Bouchard Bishop of Cambrai confirmed a donation made to the abbey of Saint-Denis near Mons[561].

'''m''' as her third husband, EMMISSA “comitissa” [de Valenciennes] widow firstly of ROGER [II] de Wavrin and secondly of FASTRE de Fossé, daughter of ISAAC [de Valenciennes] & his wife Mathilde --- (-after 1143). Her parentage and first two marriages are confirmed by the charter dated 1107 under which "Emmissa quæ cognominor comitissa, Isaac et Maltheldis filia, Fastrei de Fossato conjunx" granted revenue rights to the church of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Valenciennes, for the souls of "patris et matris [et] domini mei…Rogeri…de Wavring", signed by "Godefridi, Hugonis, castellanorum de Valentianis, Godzewini de Avesnes…Godefridi de Arescod…"[562]. Her third marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1139 under which "Emeza, quæ cognominor comitissa, Ysaac et Mathildis filia, uxor Godefridi de Arescot" donated revenue rights to the abbey of Liessies, with the consent of "Balduino Montensi comite"[563]. Baudouin IV Comte de Hainaut confirmed that "comitissa, uxor Godefridi de Arscoth" renounced her rights in the forest of Vicogne in favour of the abbey of Vicogne by charter dated 1143[564].

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-http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#GodfriedRenendied1145

1. GODFRIED van Renen (-after 18 Oct 1145). "Godfried van Renen" is named in charters at Utrecht dated 1105, 1118, 1125 (three), 1129, 1139, 1145 and 1169[60]. "…Godefridus de Rinen et filius eius Hugo…" witnessed a charter dated 18 Oct 1145 under which Heinrich III King of Germany confirmed the rights of the church of Utrecht in the counties of Oostergau and Westergau[61]. Coldeweij speculates that Godfried van Renen may have been the''' same person as Godfried van Aarschot''', pointing out that "the Renen family owned property in Perk, Anderlecht and Dilbeek near Brussels. This was the area where the oldest lands of the counts of Leuven lay"[62]. In this scenario, Godfried van Aarschot would not have been the ancestor of the van Lier family (this question is discussed more fully in the document BRABANT, LOUVAIN).

'''m''' [firstly] SOPHIA van Bemmel, daughter of DIRK van Bemmel & his wife ---. Coldewuij suggests that "Godfried van Renen-Aarschot" (identified as the future husband of Emmissa de Valenciennes) married Sophia van Bemmel as his first wife, by whom he fathered the six children shown below[63].

['''m''' secondly ---.]

Godfried & his [first] wife had six children:

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