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Données personnelles John Fleming 2nd Lord Fleming 

• Il est né environ 1465 dans Biggar, Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
• Il est décédé environ 1 novembre 1524 dans Biggar, Lanark, South Lanarkshire, Scotland.

  Assassinated (?)

• Un enfant de Malcolm Fleming et Eupheme Livingston
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 6 février 2024.

Famille de John Fleming 2nd Lord Fleming

Il est marié avec Euphame Drummond.

Ils se sont mariés

Enfant(s):

1. Malcolm Fleming  ± 1494-± 1547 

• Le couple a des ancêtres communs.



Notes par John Fleming 2nd Lord Fleming



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John Fleming, 2nd Lord Fleming
Gender:
Male
Birth:
1465
Biggar, Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Biggar Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland (United Kingdom)
Death:
circa November 01, 1524 (54-63)
Biggar, Lanark, South Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom (Assassinated (?))
Immediate Family:
Son of Sir Malcolm Fleming of Monycabo and Eupheme Livingston of Callendar

Husband of Elizabeth Ross; Agnes Somerville, Countess of Rothes and Euphame Drummond

Father of Jean Fleming; Margaret Fleming; Janet Fleming; Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming; James Fleming, of Henderland and Sutherland; Johanna Fleming; Euphame Fleming and Margaret Fleming

Brother of Sir David Fleming; Elizabeth Fleming and Isobel Fleming

John [Fleming], 2nd Lord Fleming
Father Malcolm Fleming, Master of Fleming d. c 1477
Mother Eupheme Livingston d. a 1 Jun 1493
mar. (1) bef. 5 May 1496 Eupheme Drummond (d. by poison May 1502), 5th dau. of John [Drummond], 1st Lord Drummond, by his wife Lady Elizabeth Lindsay, only dau. of Alexander [Lindsay], 4th Earl of Crawford
children by first wife
1. Malcolm Fleming, later 3rd Lord Fleming
2. Malcolm Fleming, Prior of Whithorn (d. bef. 30 Mar 1569)
3. James Fleming of Henderland (d. after 4 Apr 1532)
mar. (2) bef. 13 Feb 1508/9 (div. c. 1509; remar. after 17 Dec 1509; div. bef. 25 Oct 1515; mar. (2) bef. 1 May 1528 Alexander Douglas of Mains) Lady Margaret Stewart, 1st dau. of Matthew [Stewart], 2nd or 11th Earl of Lennox, by his second wife Elizabeth Hamilton, only dau. of James [Hamilton], 1st Lord Hamilton, by his second wife the Princess Mary, former wife of Thomas [Boyd], 1st Earl of Arran, and 1st dau. of James II, King of Scotland
mar. (3) Agnes Somerville (mar. (2) betw. Dec 1526 and Jan 1528/9 as his 3rd wife George [Leslie], 4th Earl of Rothes; d. betw. 18 Aug 1541 and 10 Apr 1543), dau. of Sir John Somerville of Cambusnethan
children by third wife
1.Margaret Fleming, mar. after 12 dec 1540 John Cunningham of Glengarnock
2. ...... Fleming
3. ...... Fleming (d. after 24 Nov 1529)
died 1 Nov 1524 suc. by son by first wife
note
an opponent of King James III, he proclaimed King James IV, a child, king in 1488; part of embassies to France; Chamberlain of Scotland 1516/7-24; appointed on of the guardians of the King 1523; assassinated by John Tweedie of Drumelzier and others
There is a record of a divorce by Lord Fleming in 1496, after which he married Eupheme Drummond.
Citations
Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 531.
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 593.
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 671.
Links
http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/index1707.htm#FLEMING_1451_2
http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1251.htm#i37554
2nd Lord Fleming, Chamberlain of Scotland
Notes ·ó¶John, second Lord Fleming, claimed the superiority of Fruid and the ward and marriage of Katherine Fraser, who not only held Fruid, but also Mossfennan and lands in Glenholm. His design was that she should marry his son Malcolm and it has been said that this marriage actually took place. But that is unlikely. John Tweedie of Drumelzier cherished the same design for his nephew James, and this was quite natural, for the two families were friendly, and in 1521 Elizabeth Douglas, the widow of William Fraser, Katherine's grand-father, had disponed to Tweedie the rents of Fruid and Mossfennan during the nonage of her bairns. On 1st November, 1524, Lord Fleming, with his eldest son and heir Malcolm, and a small retinue, was hawking in Glenholm, about two or three miles from Drumelzier. There he was met or waylaid by John Tweedie and his relatives and friends to the number of about fifty. Words passed and then blows, and Lord Fleming was killed, and Malcolm, his eldest son, was captured. This Malcolm obtained his liberty by consenting to the marriage of Katherine with James Tweedie; and his brother Malcolm, along with Robert Stewart, younger of Minto, and William Fleming of Boghall, were imprisoned in the 'Place of Drumelzier' as pledges for the fulfilment of the contract. Katherine, with the writs of her lands, was handed over, and she was promptly married to James Tweedie. Then the law came into operation, and the Tweedies attempted to pacify the angry Flemings. At first they were so far successful that an 'assythment' was arranged on 23rd November under which the Laird of Drumelzier and his accomplices went to the Cross of Peebles in their shirts - 'sark alane' - offered their naked swords to Lord Fleming and his kin, and bound themselves to be his servants. But that was not an end of the matter. The Privy Council took it up, and Tweedie was ordained to found a chaplainry in the church of Biggar, with a yearly stipend of ¬Ï€40 from his lands, for prayers for the soul of the dead Lord Fleming. James Tweedie, the heir, and other persons guilty of the slaughter, were banished for three years. But still the feud went on, On 8th August, 1525, Malcolm, Lord Fleming, apprised for 8000 merks the greater part of Tweedie's lands: (1) Easter Drumelzier, with the Place of Tinnies, Hopkailzie, half of Halmyre, and Deanshouses, extending in whole to 210 merks of yearly value; (2) Wester Drumelzier with its Place, extending to ¬Ï€40 yearly, which belonged to Tweedie's son James; and (3) Glenbreck and Glenumford in Peeblesshire, and Clifton in Roxburghshire, extending to 100 merks yearly. Notwithstanding this, John Tweedie did not give up his home, and on 27th September, 1526, Lord Fleming obtained a decree of delivery of the lands and fortalice of Drumelzier. On 6th June of the following year a respite for the crime for nineteen years was granted to Tweedie and thirteen others, and a settlement was finally reached in 1531, when Katherine, the Lady of Fruid, handed over to Lord Fleming all her possessions in the county, with the exception of Fruid itself, and the processes and apprisings against the Tweedies were then withdrawn.

Sources 1.[S3] House of Lennox, Chevalier Terrance Gach MacFarlane, p9 (Reliability: 3).
2.[S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Livingston02: The Scots Peerage (Linlithgow), Burkes Exti n ct Peerages 1883 (Linlithgow) (Reliability: 3).
3.[S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Fleming01: The Scots Peerage (Wigtown), Burkes Extinct Pee r ages 1883 (Fleming of Wigtown) (Reliability: 3).
4.[S105] Andrew Cuninghame, 1st Laird of Drumquhassil, Blaine L. Berkowitz, Esq, MBE (Hon), FRSA, FZS, Kt.C. OEG, (recieved as e-mail attachment 10 Feb 2012).
5.[S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Strangely, TSP (Somerville) does not mention (Reliability: 3).

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