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Données personnelles Guy de Soissons Vermandois count of Soissons 

• Il est né environ 940 dans Vermandois, Neustria.
• Il est décédé le 13 juin 989 dans Soissons, Aisne, Picardie, France.
• Un enfant de H√©ribert II of VERMANDOIS et Adela Hildebrante (Adela Hildebrande) de France Robertien (de France de NEUSTRIA)
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 11 novembre 2021.

Famille de Guy de Soissons Vermandois count of Soissons

(1) Il est marié avec Adelaide de Soissons.

Ils se sont mariés

Enfant(s):

1. Renaud I de Vermandois  ± 990-1057 

(2) Il est marié avec Adelais d' Anjou de Anjou.

Ils se sont mariés.

• Le couple a des ancêtres communs.



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his father ᆒ Adèle de Nesle
his mother ·Üí Jean I, comte de Soissons
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his mother ·Üí Renaud de Vermandois, comte de Soissons
her father ·Üí Guy I de Vermandois, comte de Soissons
his father

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her mother ᆒ Adélaïde (Aélis) de Soissons, Vicomtesse de Troyes, Comtesse de Soissons
her mother ·Üí Renaud de Vermandois, comte de Soissons
her father ·Üí Guy, count of Soissons
his father

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Guy I de Vermandois, comte de Soissons
French: Gui de Vermandois, comte de Soissons
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 940
Vermandois, Neustria, France
Death:
June 13, 989 (44-53)
Soissons, Aisne, Picardie, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Héribert II, count of Vermandois and Adèle de France

Husband of Adelaide de Soissons

Father of Renaud de Vermandois, comte de Soissons

Brother of Eudes, count of Vienne & Amiens; Adele of Vermandois; Heribert III "le Vieux", comte d'Omois, Comte de Meaux et Troyes; Hughes de Vermandois, Archevêque de Reims; Luitgarde of Vermandois; Robert de Vermandois, comte de Meaux et de Troyes and Adalbert I the Pious, count of Vermandois

Although many internet sources list Guy Comte de Soissons as the son of Adalbert (Albert) I de Vermandois and his wife Gerberge, both FMG Medieval Lands database and Wikipedia position him as a son of Heribert II de Vermandois, Count of Vermandois, and Adela, daughter of Robert I of France, based upon Dormay's 1664 history of Soissons.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#_Toc480785789 (3 Nov 2017)
GUY [I], son of [HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adela [Capet]] (-after [986]). Dormay, in his Histoire de la ville de Soissons, records that "M. Renautဦdit avoir vu un manuscrit de Sainte-Croix dမOffemont, lequel ne se trouve plus" in which "Guy Comte de Soissons est appellé fils de Heribert Comte de Vermandois"[578]. Comte de Soissons. "ဦWido comesဦ" confirmed the charter dated Jun 974 under which Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Thierry near Reims[579]. Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Eloy de Noyon, established by "piæ memoriæ nepos noster Lyudulfus Noviomanorum episcopusဦassentientibus fratribus suis nepotibus nostris Alberto Viromandensi comite et Guidone", by charter dated to [980/986], signed by "Alberti Viromandensis comitis, Guidonis fratris eiusဦ"[580]. "Adalbertus comes, Heriberti comitis, Vidonis comitisဦ" subscribed the charter dated to [980] under which "Adalbertus comesဦin meo Virodumensi comitatu" founded the abbey of Mont-Saint-Quentin near Péronne[581]. He visited Rome in the mid-980s: Gerbert requested "Stephano Romanæ æcclesiæ diacono" to return books to him by "Guidonem Suessonicum comitem", dated to late 984[582].
m [as her first husband, ADELISA, daughter of GILBERT/GISELBERT Comte & his wife ---. The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[583]. If this is correct, she married secondly (992) Nocher [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube. However, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[584], the wife of Comte Nocher was the daughter of Guy Comte de Soissons, although the primary source on which this is based is unknown. The identity of Adelisaမs supposed father has not been traced.] Guy & his wife had [two] children:
a) [ADELISA de Soissons . According to the Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, the wife of Nocher [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine was the widow of Guy Comte de Soissons who married Nocher as her second husband "en 992"[585]. However, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[586], the wife of Nocher was the daughter of Guy Comte de Soissons, although the primary source on which this is based is not known. It is uncertain which version is correct, but as noted below under Renaud Comte de Soissons there are indications that the Acta Sanctorum version provides a more credible explanation of events. m NOCHER [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, son of ACHARD & his wife [Achardia ---].]
b) [RENAUD de Soissons ([985/92]-early 1057). The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[587]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[588], he was Renaud, possible son of Nocher Comte de Bar-sur-Aube & his wife Adelisa Ctss de Soissons. This is consistent with the same source stating that Nocherမs wife was the daughter, not the widow, of Guy Comte de Soissons, but the primary source (if any) on which the information is based has not been identified. As Renaud named his son Guy, it appears more likely that the Acta Sanctorum version is correct. Comte de Soissons. Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villaဦCarcrisiaဦCorciaci atqueဦColomellæဦColisiaciဦBruelii atqueဦNantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[589]. m ([after Feb 1031]) ---. The name of Renaud's wife is not known. Two sources may provide some indication of the family connections of Renaudမs wife. Firstly, the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers ("fratres") of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermusဦfrater iam dicti Helduini"[590]. It is clear from other sources that Guillaume Comte de Soissons descended from the family of the dukes of Normandy. The only way in which the Genealogiæ could make sense is if "fratres" can be interpreted as including brothers-in-law (an interpretation which has been observed and confirmed as correct in other cases). If that is correct, it is possible that Renaudမs wife had married firstly, as his second wife, Hilduin [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt. If this is correct, Renaud would have married after 1032, the last date when Hilduin [II] is recorded. This timing appears to fit with the general chronology of the Soissons family, although if it is correct it is likely that Hilduinမs widow would have been Renaudမs second wife. Secondly, one version of the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) names လManasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculusဝ[591], the latter referring to Manassès Bishop of Cambrai and later Bishop of Cambrai, who was Renaudမs grandson, and the former to Manassès Archbishop of Reims who was the son of Manassès လle Chauveဝ Vidame de Reims (see the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY). It appears unlikely that the family connection was through the Normandy family of Renaudမs son-in-law Guillaume လBusacဝ dမEu. On the other hand, the connection may have been through the previous generation, asssuming that လavunculusဝ in the source in question can be interpreted loosely. This second hypothesis would also provide an explanation for the introduction of the name Manassès into the family of the comtes de Soissons. If this hypothesis is correct, Renaudမs wife was ---, niece of Guy Archbishop of Reims, daughter of ---. Renaud & his wife had [two] children:
i) GUY [II] de Soissons (-early 1057). Comte de Soissons. "ဦGuidone comite Suessionisဦ" witnessed a charter dated to [1042/44] under which "Guanilo thesaurarius Sancti Martini" donated property[592]. Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villaဦCarcrisiaဦCorciaci atqueဦColomellæဦColisiaciဦBruelii atqueဦNantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[593].
ii) [ADELA (-[1105]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that လWillelmus cognomento Busaciusဝ plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged လcastrum Oucisဝ and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him လcomitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniugeဝ[594]. This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaumeမs marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant. No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage. If Guillaumeမs wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation. She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct. m GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).]
Sources
[578] Dormay (1664), Vol. II, Livre V, Chap. I, p. 3.
[579] RHGF, Tome IX, XXIV, p. 634.
[580] RHGF, Tome IX, XLI, p. 654.
[581] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta, col. 359.
[582] Gerbert, 40, p. 38.
[583] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.
[584] ES III 729 A.
[585] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.
[586] ES III 729 A.
[587] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.
[588] ES III 729 A.
[589] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436.
[590] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 11 and 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[591] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Pontificum abbreviata per canonicum Cameracensem, 8, MGH SS VII, p. 505.
[592] Marmoutier-Dunois XXII, p. 22.
[593] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436.
[594] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_I,_Count_of_Soissons

Guillaume IV de Provence
Guillaume IV, n√© avant 1013, mort entre 1019 et 1030, fut comte de Provence de 1018 à sa mort. Il √©tait fils de Guillaume II, comte de Provence, et de Gerberge de Bourgogne.
Although some internet sources list Guy Comte de Soissons as the son of Adalbert I de Vermandois, the
FMG Medieval Lands database does not find primary sources to support this and he is not listed as a son of Adalbert de Vermandois. He is primarily known as the father of Adelisa, Countess of Soissons, who married Nocher II Comte de Bar-sur-Aube:
1. GUY, son of --- . Comte de Soissons.
m ---. The name of Guy's wife is not known. Guy & his wife had one child:
a) ADELISA de Soissons . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Ctss de Soissons. m NOCHER [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, son of NOCHER [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube & his wife ---.

WikiTree profile De Soissons-24 created through the import of Spencer Family Tree 4 2002.GED on Nov 28, 2011 by Chet Spencer. See the Soissons-24 Changes page for the details of edits by Chet and others.
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Guy (Vermandois) Soissons (abt. 0948 - 0989)

Guy Soissons formerly Vermandois Born about 0948 in Vermandois, France Ancestors Son of Adalbert (Vermandois) de Vermandois [uncertain] and Gerberge (Lorraine) Vermandois [uncertain] Brother of Otbert I Van Este [half], Eudes de Vermandois, Gisèle de Vermandois, Herbert Vermandois and Lindulf Vermandois Husband of Adelaide (Gilbert) Vermandois န married [date unknown] [location unknown] Husband of Adelheid (de Soissons) Soissons န married [date unknown] [location unknown] Descendants Father of Renaud I Comte (de Soissons) Soissons, Aelis Of (Soissons) Bar-sur-Aube and Adelaide (Vermandois) Bar-sur-Aube Died 13 Jun 0989 [location unknown] Profile managers: Katherine Patterson [send private message], Fontaine Wiatt [send private message], and Chet Spencer [send private message] Vermandois-254 created 28 Mar 2012 | Last modified 24 Nov 2015 This page has been accessed 2,136 times.

Guy I of Vermandois, count of Soissons The parents listed for this individual are speculative and may not be based on sound genealogical research. Sources to prove or disprove this ancestry are needed. Please contact the Profile Manager or leave information on the bulletin board. Sources Wikipedia citing Moriarty (1985).[1]
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