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Données personnelles Giselbert de Roucy comte de Roucy, Vicomte de Reims 


Famille de Giselbert de Roucy comte de Roucy, Vicomte de Reims


Enfant(s):

  1. Ebles (Elbo) 1er de Roucy  988-± 1033 
  2. Judith Yvette de Roucy  ± 988-± 1056


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Giselbert de Roucy is your 26th great grandfather.
You
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her mother ·Üí Jane Osbaldeston
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her mother ·Üí unknown Harington, heiress of Hornby
her mother ·Üí Robert de Neville, of Hornby
her father ·Üí Geoffrey de Neville, II
his father ·Üí Joan de Monmouth
his mother ·Üí John fitz Gilbert de Monmouth, Lord of Monmouth
her father ·Üí Gilbert FitzBaderon, Lord of Monmouth
his father ·Üí Rohesia FitzGilbert de Clare
his mother ·Üí Adeliza de Claremont
her mother ·Üí Marguerite de Ramerupt, Dame de Roucy
her mother ·Üí Adelaide de Roucy, comtesse de Montdidier
her mother ·Üí Ebles I, Count of Roucy
her father ·Üí Giselbert de Roucy
his father

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Giselbert de Roucy is your 34th great grandfather.
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¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
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his mother ·Üí Benet Gernet
her father ·Üí Quenilde Verch Richard FitzRoger
his mother ·Üí Sir Richard FitzRoger, Lord of Woodplumpton
her father ·Üí Roger FitzRichard, of Warkworth
his father ·Üí Albreda de Lisours
his mother ·Üí Albreda (Aubrie) de Lisoures
her mother ·Üí Lady Matilda (Matilda) de Lacy, of Pontefract
her mother ·Üí Beatrix De Montdidier De Rouci
her mother ·Üí Countess Alice De Roucy
her mother ·Üí Count Ebles (Elbo) De Roucy
her father ·Üí Giselbert de Roucy
his father

Giselbert de Roucy is your 31st great grandfather.
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his father ·Üí Sir Francis Bryan, II, Justicar of Ireland
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his mother ·Üí James FitzMaurice Fitzgerald, 10th Earl of Desmond
her father ·Üí Lady Ellen Roche, Countess of Desmond
his mother ·Üí Maurice Roche, 2nd Lord Roche of Fermoy
her father ·Üí David Roche, 1st Lord, Viscount of Fermoy
his father ·Üí Amy FitzMaurice FitzGerald
his mother ·Üí Alianore Butler, Countess of Desmond
her mother ·Üí Elizabeth Hereford, Countess of Ormond
her mother ·Üí Joan de Burgh, Countess of Kildare
her mother ·Üí Margaret de Burgh
her mother ·Üí John de Burgh (II)
her father ·Üí John de Burgh (I)
his father ·Üí Beatrix Bardolph, Lady of Wormegay
his mother ·Üí Beatrix de Pierrepont
her mother ᆒ Clémence-Agathe de Rethel
her mother ·Üí Gauthier, Count of Rethel
her father ·Üí Mathilde de Rethel
his mother ·Üí Hugues I, count of Rethel
her father ·Üí Judith Yvette de Roucy
his mother ·Üí Giselbert de Roucy
her father

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Count Giselbert de Roucy, comte de Roucy, Vicomte de Reims
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 952
Roucy, Aisne, Picardy, France
Death:
April 29, 991 (35-43)
Reims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
Place of Burial:
Basilique Saint-Remy, Reims, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Renaud I de Rheims, Comte de Roucy and Countess Alberade de Lorraine
Husband of N.N. de Poitiers
Father of Gisèle de Roucy; Judith Yvette de Roucy and Count Ebles (Elbo) De Roucy
Brother of Brunon de Roucy, Bishop of Langres; Gerberge de Roucy de Reims and Ermentrude de Roucy, comtesse de M√¢con & de Bourgogne

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GiselbertRoucydied9911000B:
GISELBERT [de Roucy], son of RENAUD Comte [de Roucy] & his wife Alberade de Hainaut ([948/55]-19 Apr [991/1000], maybe 997, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy). The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum (dated to 991) quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertumဦ"[1176]. Comte de Roucy. Vicomte de Reims. The necrology of Reims Cathedral records the death "XIII Kal Mai" of "Gisbertus comes"[1177].

m --- [de Poitiers]. Père Anselme states that the wife of "Gilbert Comte de Reims et de Roucyဦsemble avoir été de la maison de Poitiers" and that the couple were parents of Ebles, Liétard and Judith, shown below[1178]. The primary source on which this is based is not known. However, it is doubtful whether it can be correct in all its details. In particular, Judith Ctss de Rethel (alleged daughter of Gislebert & his wife, see below) must have been born in [1020/30] for chronological consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants, which excludes her being Giselbert's daughter. In addition, the origin of the names Ebles, Liétard and Judith is unclear among the family of Giselbert Comte de Roucy. Jean-Noël Mathieu suggests that Giselbert died childless and that the father of these children was Ebles de Poitou, son of Guillaume IV "Fier-à-Bras" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume II Comte de Poitou] & his wife Emma de Blois, based partly on onomastics and partly to explain how the territories of Rumigny-en-Porcéan and Coucy (under the suzerainty, respectively, of the abbey of Saint-Nicaise de Reims and the church of Saint-Rémi de Reims, and thereby closely connected with the family of the Comtes de Blois-Champagne) came into the family[1179]. J-N. Mathieu also suggests that the mother of these children was an otherwise unknown daughter of Ermentrude de Roucy, sister of Comte Giselbert, by her first husband Aubry [II] Comte de Macon who, in the ordinary course of events, would have been heiress of Roucy if Giselbert had died childless. The suggestion appears consistent from a chronological point of view. However, more research is needed to establish the original source on which the affiliation from Giselbert is based. Another possibility is that Ebles and Eudes were sons of Giselbert, but that Lietaud and Judith were children born from a second marriage of their mother.
Comte Giselbert & his wife had [four possible children]:
1. EBLES (-11 May 1033). The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla etဦIveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[1180]. Comte de Roucy 997. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the succession in 1023 as archbishop of Reims of "Ebalus qui fuit comes de Roseio"[1181]. Archbishop of Reims 1021. m (divorced before 1021) as her first husband, BEATRIX de Hainaut, daughter of REGINAR IV Comte de Hainaut & his wife Hedwige de France (after [996]-). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Beatricem" as daughter of "Rainero comiti de Hainaco" & his wife Hedwige, naming her husband "Ebalus de Roceio"[1182]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis gives more details, naming "Beatricem" daughter of "Hadevidemဦcomitissam Hainonensium" and specifying that she married "Ebalus de Roceio, cuius frater fuit Lebaldus de Malla et soror Iveta comitissa de Roitest" and later "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina"[1183]. She married secondly ([1021]) Manassès de Ramerupt "Calva-asina" [Montdidier]. Comte Ebles & his wife had two children:
a) ADELAIDE de Roucy ([1015/20]-1062). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[1184]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filiaဦsororဦHadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[1185]. Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060]. m HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier Seigneur de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-1063).

b) HEDWIGE de Roucy (-1070 or after). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that Hedwige married "Godefridus frater episcopi Gerardi Cameracensis"[1186], although the bishop in question was the uncle of Hedwige's husband not his brother. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife Beatrix, specifying that Hedwige married "Condefrido de Ruminiaco" by whom she had "filium nomine Nicholaum et filias, quarum una peperit ex Radulfo de Veteri-villa Ebalum de Flurines et Ermentrudem, matrem Guilelmi de Birbais; secunda filia Hadevidis de Rumiaco ex Godefrido de Ranst peperit filios Iohannem et Nicholaum, qui Nicholaus Arnulfum et Godefridum procreavit; tercia filia iam dicte Hadevidis copulate domino de Granci peperit ei Ebalum eiusdem loci dominum"[1187]. m GODEFROI [IV] de Florennes, son of GODEFROI [III] Seigneur de Florennes [Rumigny] & his wife Gisela ---. 1066/78.
2. EUDES "le Fort/fortis" (-27 Aug after 1021). The necrology of the church of Reims records the death "VI Kal Sep" of "Odo fortis frater domini Ebali archiepiscopi"[1188].
3. LETAUD de Marle . The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla etဦIveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[1189]. m MATHILDE, daughter of ---. "Albericus de Cociacoဦcum Adela uxore sua et matre eius Mathilde" granted privileges to the monastery of Nogent-sous-Coucy by charter dated 1059[1190]. Létaud & his wife had one child:
a) ADA de Marle . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Letaldus de Marlaဦfiliam nomine Adam" as mother of "Thomam de Marla"[1191]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "filiaဦLetardi domni de Marlaဦ Ada" as mother of "Thomam de Cocy"[1192]. "Albericus de Cociacoဦcum Adela uxore sua et matre eius Mathilde" granted privileges to the monastery of Nogent-sous-Coucy by charter dated 1059[1193], although the primary source which confirms that she was the daughter of Létaud, as well as the same daughter who later married Enguerrand de Coucy, has not yet been identified. Vicomtesse de Coucy. m firstly (divorced 1059) AUBRY [de Beaumont-sur-Oise] Vicomte de Coucy, son of [IVO [II] Comte de Beaumont & his wife Emma ---] (-before 1095). m secondly (repudiated) as his first wife, ENGUERRAND [I] Comte d´Amiens Seigneur de Boves et de Coucy, son of DREUX Seigneur de Boves & his wife --- (-1116).
4. [JUDITH . The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla etဦIveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio" and, in a later passage, "Iuetta sororဦLetaldi de Marla" as mother of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[1194]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Reitest, uxor comitis Manesserii Iuttaဝ as sister of "fratres Ebalus comes de Roceio et Letardus domnus de Marla"[1195]. Hugues de Rethel names his parents Manassès and Judith in a charter dated 1081 for the church of Braux[1196]. However, Judith Ctss de Rethel must have been born in [1020/30] for chronological consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants, which excludes her being the daughter of Giselbert Comte de Roucy. It is possible, as suggested above, that she was the uterine half-sister of Ebles Comte de Roucy, born from their mother's second marriage. m MANASSES [III] Comte de Rethel, son of [MANASSES [II] Comte de Rethel & his wife ---] (-1081 or after).

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Gilbert de Roucy was born about 956 in Reims, Marne, France. Gilbert's father was Renaud de Roucy and his mother was Alberade de Lorraine. His maternal grandparents were Gilbert Duke of Lorraine and Gerberge Queen of France. He had a sister named Ermentrude (Irmtrude). He was the older of the two children. He had a half-brother named Rainer II. He died about 985 in Reims, Marne, France. His burial was in Rheims, Marne, France.
http://familytrees.genopro.com/454373/Roelofs/default.htm?page=ROUCY-GilbertDe-I3587.htm

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