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Données personnelles Sir Robert Stewart II King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland 

• Il est né le 2 mars 1316 dans Dundonald, Kyle, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND.
• Il est décédé le 19 avril 1390 dans Kyle, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND, il avait 74 ans.
• Il est enterré dans Scone Abbey, Scone, Perthshire, SCOTLAND.
• Un enfant de Walter Stewart et Marjorie Bruce
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 17 avril 2018.

Famille de Sir Robert Stewart II King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland

Il est marié avec Elizabeth Muir.

Ils se sont mariés le 22 novembre 1347, il avait 31 ans.

Enfant(s):

1. Elizabeth Stewart   
2. Alexander Stewart  1343-1405
3. Katherine Stewart  1362-1446
4. Robert III Stewart,  1337-1406
5. Marjory Stewart  1348-1417

Notes par Sir Robert Stewart II King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland

Sir Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland md. (Miss) Leitch. DID NOT MARRY.8 Sir Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland By unknown mistress (or mistresses), he also had 9 illegitimate sons (Sir John, Sheriff of Bute; James, Canon of Glasgow; Thomas, Archdeacon of St. Andrews, Dean of Dunkeld; Alexander, Canon of Glasgow; Sir John of Dundonald, Lord Burley; Alexander of Inverlunen; James of Kinfauns; Sir John of Cardney; and Walter, Dean of Moray, Treasurer of Scotland) and 2 illegitimate daus. (Mary, wife of Sir John de Danielston; and Katherine, wife of Sir Robert Logan).3,5 He was born on 2 Mar 1316 at Dundonald Kyle, Ayrshire, Scotland.3 He and Elizabeth Muir obtained a marriage license on 22 Nov 1347; Date of dispensation, being related in the 4th degree of consanguinity. And he'd had carnal relations with Isabel Butler who was related in the 3rd & 4th degrees of consanguinity to Elizabeth Muir. She had been his mistress for a number of years. They had 4 sons (Sir John, Earl of Carrick (afterwards Robert III, King of Scotland; Walter, Lord of Fife; Sir Robert, 1st Duke of Albany, Earl of Fife and Menteith; and Sir Alexander, Earl of Buchan & Ross) and 5 daus., (Margaret, wife of John MacDonald, Lord of the Isles; Marjory, wife of John de Dunbar, and of Alexander Keith; Elizabeth, wife of Sir Thomas de Hay; Isabel, wife of Sir James, Earl of Douglas & Mar, Lord Liddesdale; & Jean/Joan, wife of John de Keith, of Sir John Lyon, and of Sir James de Sandilands).2,3,4,5 Sir Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland and Euphemia Ross obtained a marriage license on 2 May 1355; Date of dispensation, being related in the 4th degree of kindred and 3rd degree of affinity. They had 2 sons (Sir David, Earl of Strathearn and Caithness; and Sir Walter, Earl of Atholl and Caithess, Lord Brechin) and 2 daus. (Gilles, wife of Sir William Douglas; and Elizabeth, wife of Sir David de Lindsay of Glenesk).3,5 Sir Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland, Earl of Atholl, Strathearn, 7th Steward of Scotland Crowned at Scone., on 26 Mar 1371.3 He died on 19 Apr 1390 at Castle Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland, at age 74; Bur. at Scone Abbey, Perthshire.3,5

Citations

1. Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 44; Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, p. 318.
2. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 472.
3. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 538.
4. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 526-527.
5. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 614.
6. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 533-534.
7. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 609-610.
8. The Scots Peerage, Vol. II, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 285-286.
9. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 564.
10. The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 17.
11. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 202.
12. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 602.

About Robert II King of Scotland
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006037&tree=LEO
Robert II, The Steward, King of Scots
was born 2 Mar 1316. He died 19 Apr 1390 in Dundonald Castle in 1390 and lies bur. at Scone Abbey. He was also known as Robert, High Steward of Scots and by his Gaelic Name, Roibert II Stiùbhairt.
Coronation: 26 Mar 1371
Ruled: 22 Feb 1371 to 19 Apr 1390
Preceded by: David II (Dàibhidh Bruis) Ruled 7 Jun 1329 - 22 Feb 1371
Succeeded by Robert III Ruled 19 Apr 1390 - 4 Apr 1406
Robert Stewart, born in 1316, was the only child of Walter Stewart, High Steward of Scotland. He had the upbringing of a Gaelic noble on the Stewart lands in Bute, Clydeside, and in Renfrew. [Wiki]

Basics
Son of: Walter Steward 1293 - 9 Apr 1326 and Marjorie Bruce December 1296 - 2 Mar 1316 (Dau. of Robert I)
Married: Elizabeth Mure ca. 1348
Children:
John Stewart, Earl of Carrick
Walter Stewart, Lord of Fife (d. 1362)
Robert Stewart, Duke of Albany, Earl of Fife and Monteith
Alexander Stewart, Earl of Buchan, Lord of Badenoch and Ross
Margaret Stewart
Marjory Stewart
Isabella Stewart
Katherine Stewart
Elizabeth Stewart
Married (2) Euphemia de Ross 1355
Children:
David Stewart, 1st Earl of Caithness, Earl of Strathearn
Walter Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
Margaret Stewart
Elizabeth Stewart
Egidia Stewart
Illegitimate children of with Mariota de Cardney
Alexander Stewart of Innerlunan
Sir John Stewart of Cardney
James Stewart of Abernethy & Kinfaun
Walter Stewart
Possible Unknown Dau(s)
Illegitimate children with Moira Leitch
Sir John Stewart of Bute
Possible Unknown Dau(s)
Illegitimate children with Unknown
Sir John Stewart of Dundonald
Thomas Stewart, Bishop of St Andrews
Alexander Stewart, Canon of Glasgow
James Stewart, Canon of Glasgow
Possible Unknown Dau(s)

"If the Earl of Menteith was Earl of Stratheme, it was by descent from David, Earl of Stratheme, one of the sons of Robert II. of Scotland (1371[sic] - 1390), the first of the Stuart line.
"Now that King's matrimonial relations had been rather complex. He was fifty-five years of age when he came to the throne, as successor to David II, the last of the Bruce line; and all his children of royal rank (not, by any means, all of every rank) had been born to him before that event. But these children of royal rank and pretensions were of two sets, born to him by
two wives — four sons and six daus. by one wife, the beautiful Elizabeth Mute; and two sons and four daus. by another wife, Euphemia Ross, dau. of the Earl of Ross, and widow of John Randolph, Earl of Moray. Worse still, all
the children of the first set had been born while their mother was not actually the wife of Robert Stuart, but only his concubine; and, though there had been a subsequent marriage, which, by the law and practice of Scotland, would, in ordinary circumstances, have legitimated the offspring born before the marriage, the circumstances in this case were by no means ordinary. The question was about succession to the Scottish throne; and, though a legitimation per subsequens matrimonium might be good for ordinary purposes, could it be held good for that Granted that it might, there was a yet deeper difficulty.
"Robert and Elizabeth Mure were related to each other within the forbidden degrees, and Robert had had a previous mistress who was related to Elizabeth Mure within the forbidden degrees; and, though the marriage with Elizabeth Mure and the legitimation of her children had been expressly allowed by a Papal Dispensation, it was observed that the complicated cousinship, which by Church-rule barred the union, had been slurred over in the Dispensation, and it was doubted whether his Holiness himself had the power to condone all the ecclesiastical offences involved in the connection. With such an entanglement of family claims about him had the jovial Robert
Smart come to the throne. He had done his best to clear the entanglement. He had procured an Act of his States settling the succession to the Crown first on his eldest son by Elizabeth Mure (afterwards Robert III), and then another Act entailing the Crown farther on the next heirs-male of both his families, and, in the event of failure of such, on his heirs whatsoever. By this arrangement, consequently, the Crown had been transmitted, through Robert III, to the five successive Jameses, but not without a smouldering of the question whether these reigning descendants of Elizabeth Mure were the legitimate Stuarts, and whether the progeny of the lawfully-md. Euphemia Ross had not the truer royalty in their veins. If they had, then the successor to Robert II in 1390 ought to have been not Robert III, but his half-brother, David Stuart, Earl of Stratherne, the eldest son of Robert II by Euphemia Ross; and his rights would have descended to his dau., Euphemia Stuart, who
had md. a Sir Patrick Graham, and so carried the Earldom of Stratherne into the Graham family. It had been to obliterate as much as possible these royal associations with the Stratheme Earldom that the poet-king James I had canceled the Earldom in 1428, and made Malise Graham, the son of Sir Patrick Graham and Euphemia Stuart, accept the Earldom of Menteith instead.
"Even if the question between the reigning Stuarts and the excluded descendants of Euphemia Ross had been more effectively put to sleep than it was, an incident had at length occurred which was calculated to revive it.
"On the death of James V, in 1542, leaving only a dau., Mary, the descent
of the crown in the heirs-male Mure was broken. The question of the legitimacy of Elizabeth Mure’s marriage might then have been re-opened in connection with the question who was the next heir-general. Had the decision, even then, been against the legitimacy of the Mure line, Mary ought to have been set aside, and the crown ought to have gone to the Graham, Earl of Menteith, of that date, as the heir-general from the other line. Nothing of the kind had happened; and poor Mary, Queen of Scots, had had her reign, such as it was, and had handed on the Scottish crown, with the English addition, to James VI and Charles I. But, in consequence, first, of Mary’s Roman Catholic obstinacy and unpopularity with her Reformed Scottish subjects on that account, and, next, of James’s Episcopal proclivities and unpopularity on that account, there had been a good deal of suppressed re-inquiry into the far-back muddle of Robert II and his two marriages. Some genealogists and historians, including Buchanan, had even persuaded themselves that Elizabeth Mure was not legally the first wife of Robert II, but that he had md. her, by way of a return to his old love, after the death of Euphemia Ross, and therefore that any rights which her posterity had acquired by legitimation were subject to the prior rights of the descendants of Euphemia Ross, as the first legal wife. In short, for eighty years before the accession of Charles to the two kingdoms, there had been, here and there, in one of the kingdoms, a persistent questioning of those hereditary rights of his race on which his accession depended. Yet Charles, reigning as the descendant of Robert II and Elizabeth Mure, had allowed his Scottish Privy Councilor and Chief-]ustice, William Graham, Earl of Menteith, the descendant of the same Robert II and Euphemia Ross, to re-assume that
Earldom of Stratheme which was the most distinct memorial of his co-equal relatedness with himself to the old Stuart bigamist. If Charles was aware of all the speculation on the subject that was lying dormant in the Scottish genealogical noddle, he probably thought it too absurd to be worth a moment's notice."
Source: Masson, David, M.A., LL.D., Drummond of Hawthornden: The Story of his Life and Writings, (London: MacMilland and Co., 1873), pp. 186-88.

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