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  1. Amadeus de Grandison  ± 1229-1300
  2. William de Grandison  ± 1251-1335 

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    Pierre I de Grandson (de Grandison), Seigneur de Grandison
    Gender:
    Male
    Birth:
    circa 1190 Grandson, Jura-Nord vaudois District, Vaud, Switzerland
    Death:
    August 31, 1263 (68-77) Neuchatel, Switzerland

    Immediate Family:
    Son of Ebles IV de Grandson, seigneur de Grandson et de La Sarraz and Beatrix de Genève

    Husband of Agnès de Neuchâtel

    Father of Amadeus de Grandison; Lady Alice Devereux (de Grandson), Baroness Devereux; Otto de Grandson (de Grandison); William de Grandison, 1st Lord Grandison; Guillemette de Grandson; Jacques de Grandson, Seigneur de Grandson; Agnes De Grandison and Jordane de Grandson

    Brother of Ebles de Grandson; G√©rard de Grandson, seigneur de La Sarraz; Henri I de Grandson, seigneur de Champvent; Guillaume de Grandson; Othon de Grandson; Hugues de Grandson; Aymon de Grandson, √®vêque de Gen√®ve and Jeanne de Grandson

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    Pierre de Grandison, Seigneur de Grandson
    Gender:
    Male
    Birth:
    circa 1190
    Grandson, Jura-Nord vaudois District, Vaud, Switzerland
    Death:
    August 31, 1263 (69-77)
    Neuchatel, Switzerland
    Immediate Family:
    Son of Ebles IV de Grandson, Lord of Grandson of Switzerland and Beatrix de Grandson
    Husband of Agnes von Neuenburg
    Father of Amadeus de Grandison; Alice de Grandson; Jordane de Grandson; Sir Kt. Otto de Grandson; Guillemette de Grandson; Jacques de Grandson, Seigneur de Grandson and Agnes DE GRANDISON ¬´ less
    Brother of Girard de Grandson

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    See
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandson,_Switzerland
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_de_Grandson.
    http://www.chateau-grandson.ch/
    www.wikitree.com
    Pierre (Pierre I) de Grandison formerly Grandison
    Born about 1190 in Neuch√¢tel, Neuchatel, Switzerland Ancestors
    Son of Ebel (Grandison) de Grandison and Beatrix (Genève) Grandson
    [sibling%28s%29 unknown]
    Husband of Agnes (De Neuchatel) Neuch√¢tel - married 1229 in Neuch√¢tel,Neuch√¢tel Canton,,Switzerland
    Descendants
    Father of Amadeus S de Grandison , Alice (Grandison) Devereux and William (Grandison) de Grandison Died 1258 in Neuch√¢tel, Neuchatel, Switzerland
    Profile manager: Darlene Athey-Hill Profile last modified 25 Jun 2017 Created 22 Feb 2015

    http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkvaud.htm#PierreGrandsondied1257B

    PIERRE [I] de Grandson, son of EBLES [III] Seigneur de Grandson & his [first] wife --- [de Gen√®ve] ([1186]-[29 Dec 1257/15 Jul 1259]).¬â€  Williams estimates Pierre·Äôs birth to ·Äúaround 1186·Äù[1677], which seems a reasonable suggestion based on the family chronology.¬â€  ·ÄúYblo dominus de Grancionis·Äù donated serfs to Romainm√¥tier, after ·ÄúHugo filius meus·Äù entered as a monk, with the consent of ·Äúuxor mea et filii mei Yblo, Girardus, Henricus, Willelmus, Otto, Petrus et ceteri omnes·Äù, by charter dated 1200[1678].¬â€  Letters dated 1 Sep 1317 record the settlement of a dispute between ·Äúdominum Petrum de Grandissono·Äù and ·ÄúJohannem de Chanvenz·Äù, under which the latter swore allegiance to ·Äúdomino Ottoni, domino Grandissoni·Äù and acknowledged ·Äúcastrum et mandamentum de Chanvenz...in feudum ab eodem quamdiu ipse dominus Otto vixerit...·Äù[1679].¬â€  ·ÄúGiraldus et Henricus et Petrus fratres de Granciuno...·Äù witnessed the charter dated [25 Mar 1225/24 Mar 1226] under which ·Äúcomites de Chiburhc Wernherus et H·Äù sold property to ·Äúdomino Haymoni de Fuciniaco·Äù[1680].¬â€  Seigneur de Grandson: as noted above, Williams dates the distribution of territories by Ebles [III] to his three surviving lay sons to ·Äúprobably in 1225, between April and July·Äù (bearing in mind the [25 Mar 1225/24 Mar 1226] charter in which they were named ·Äúde Granciuno·Äù and the 14 Aug 1225 document in which G√©rard was associated with La Sarraz, see above)[1681].¬â€  ·ÄúPetri domini de Granzon...·Äù is named among the valuers of a fief granted by ·ÄúPetro de Sabaudia, filio Thome quondam comitis Sabaudie·Äù to ·ÄúAmedeus D. de Jaiz·Äù by charter dated 12 Jun 1234[1682].¬â€  ·ÄúE. dominus Grandisoni·Äù confirmed his donation of harvest and one silver cup to Lausanne cathedral, for the anniversaries of ·Äúnostro et Beatricis uxoris nostre·Äù, with the consent of ·Äúfillis nostris...H...domino de Chanuenz et P. domino de Grantson et Antonia uxore condam filii nostri G. domini Sarrate et filiis eius .s. ai. et. W. et Iordana filia ipsius·Äù, by charter dated Oct 1234[1683].¬â€  ·ÄúEbalus dominus Grandissoni·Äù donated property to Lac-de-Joux abbey, with the consent of ·Äúfiliorum meorum...Henrici domini de Chanuenz et Petri domini Grandissoni et...Anthonie domine Sarrate condam uxoris Gyrardi filii mei et liberorum suorum Aymonis, Willermi et Jordane·Äù, by charter dated 1235[1684].¬â€  ·ÄúI[blo]...Lacedemonensis episcopus·Äù, having received absolution from ·ÄúH[ugonis] prioris Paterniaci fratris nostri carnalis·Äù, founded his anniversary at Payerne, ·ÄúAymo...Gebennensis episcopus, Willermus thesaurarius Lausannensis, Otto decanus Noui Castri, Henricus dominus de Chanvenz, Petrus dominus de Granzon·Äù consenting at the request of ·Äúipsius fratris nostri, Lacedemonensis episcopi·Äù, by charter dated 30 Jul 1238[1685].¬â€  Williams records numerous other biographical details about Pierre·Äôs career, citing extensive primary source material[1686].¬â€  A charter dated 28 Sep 1257 records ·ÄúReinauz de Valmarcuel·Äù pledging property ·Äúen la vile de Monstruil...·Äù to ·ÄúPerroin segnor de Granzon et a dama Annes sa feme·Äù[1687].¬â€  [The necrology of Lausanne records the death 2 Jul of ·ÄúPetrus dns Grandissoni·Äù[1688].¬â€  There is no indication to which Pierre de Grandson this entry refers.]¬â€ 
    [m firstly ---.¬â€  David Williams has suggested the possibility that Pierre [I] married twice, given his estimated birth in [1186], although he highlights that ·Äúthere is no known evidence of [an earlier marriage]·Äù and concludes that ·Äúfor the purposes of [his] study...[he] accepted the traditional view that Agn√®s was the mother of all Pierre·Äôs children·Äù[1689].¬â€  Nevertheless, some of the cases in which members of other noble families in the Vaud/Freibourg area are called ·Äúnephew/nepos·Äù of Pierre [I]·Äôs (shown immediately after Pierre·Äôs children below) could best be explained if they were descendants of daughters born from such an earlier marriage.]¬â€ 
    m [secondly] ([1236/40?]) [as her first husband?] AGNES de Neuch√¢tel, daughter of ULRIC [IV] Comte de Neuch√¢tel & [his second wife Jolanthe von Urach] ([1222/25?]-after 15 Apr 1283, bur [Grandson Priory]).¬â€  The Chronicle of Matthias Nuewenburgensis records that ·ÄúUlricus comitis Novicastri·Äù had ·Äúmultas filias·Äù who married ·Äúdominis de Toggenburg, de Falkenstein, de Rötellein, de Regensberg, de Grandisono·Äù[1690].¬â€  Agnes was presumably one of her father·Äôs youngest children, considering that she had sons who were still minors 31 Aug 1263 as shown by the charter cited below.¬â€  She was presumably therefore born from her father·Äôs second marriage (or from an otherwise unrecorded third marriage).¬â€  Her marriage date is suggested from the likely birth dates of her children shown below, which in turn suggests her birth in the last years of her father·Äôs life.¬â€  Williams discusses an alternate theory linking her to the Chiny family[1691].¬â€  A charter dated 28 Sep 1257 records ·ÄúReinauz de Valmarcuel·Äù pledging property ·Äúen la vile de Monstruil...·Äù to ·ÄúPerroin segnor de Granzon et a dama Annes sa feme·Äù[1692].¬â€  ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1693].¬â€  ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandissoni·Äù confirmed the allegiance of ·ÄúPerrinus dominus de Vaumarquier·Äù to her ·Äúad opus...domini Otonis militis domini Grandissoni filii mei·Äù and confirmed his donation to his daughter Isabelle by charter dated 15 Apr 1283[1694].¬â€  [The possibility that Agn√®s married secondly (after 31 Aug 1363) [as his second wife,] --- Seigneur de Bonvillars, son of ---,¬â€  is speculative, as a suggested explanation for her son Othon de Grandson naming Henri de Bonvillars ·Äúmon frere le prior de Wenloc·Äù.¬â€  Follow this hyperlink for full discussion of this hypothesis.]¬â€  Her place of burial is indicated by the Jul 1298 testament of ·ÄúAgn√®s de Grandson veuve d·ÄôUlrich de Vuippens·Äù which requested burial at Humilimont (except her heart to be buried at Grandson priory ·Äúaux pieds de sa m√®re et de son fr√®re·Äù): this assumes that the younger Agn√®s was the daughter of the older, which looks likely as discussed below.¬â€  If that is correct, no indication has been found of which of Agn√®s·Äôs sons was buried with his mother (Pierre is suggested, see below).¬â€ 
    Pierre [I] & his [second] wife had [nine] children (Williams records fill biographical details of the sons[1695], of which only a selection has been included below):¬â€ 
    1.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  OTHON [I] de Grandson ([1238/41?]-12 Apr 1328, bur Lausanne Cathedral).¬â€  His parentage is confirmed by his mother·Äôs 31 Aug 1263 ¬â€ and 15 Apr 1283 charters.¬â€  His birth date is suggested based on the estimated birth date of his brother Pierre (see below), and the likely marriage date of his parents.¬â€  Seigneur de Grandson.¬â€  ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1696], indicating that Othon was adult and presumably absent at the time.¬â€  The order of Othon·Äôs birth relative to his brothers G√©rard, Jacques and Henri is unspecified, but Othon·Äôs succession as seigneur de Grandson suggests that he was the oldest.¬â€  Wurstemberger reproduces an inaccurate version of the same charter reading ·ÄúAgnetem dominam de Grandisono relictam domini Petri de Grandisono, tutricem filiorum suorum Petri, Willelmi, Girardi, Jaqueti, Henrici et Ottonini de Grandisono·Äù[1697].¬â€  As Othon was absent for the 31 Aug 1363 charter, he may already have been in England: according to the Complete Peerage, he was recorded in England in 1265, when he received a grant of forfeited houses in the city of London[1698].¬â€  He accompanied Edward, son of King Henry III, on crusade: ·Äú...Sire Otes de Grauntson...·Äù was named among the executors of Edward·Äôs testament dated 17 Jun 1272 at Acre[1699].¬â€  An order dated 25 Nov 1275 announced that the custody of ·Äúthe islands of Gernese and Geresaye·Äù was granted to ·ÄúOtto de Grandisono·Äù, confirmed 25 Jan 1277 (·Äúgrant...for life...on account of his intimacy with the king, and his long and faithful service from an early age...and for five years after his decease·Äù)[1700].¬â€  Othon was summoned to the English parliament from 1299, whereby he is held to have become Lord Grandson [Grandison][1701].¬â€  Letters dated 2 Dec 1304 record that ·Äúdominus Otto, dominus de Grandissono et dominus Petrus, dominus Bellimontis·Äù confirmed receiving ·Äúcastra sua de Cudrifino, de Grandicuria, et de Bella Rippa·Äù in fief from ·Äúdomino Ludovico de Sabaudia, domino Vuaudi·Äù[1702].¬â€  The testament of Othon Seigneur de Grandson, dated 4 Apr 1328, chose burial at Lausanne cathedral[1703]: the full text of this testament has not been seen.¬â€  The necrology of Lausanne records the death 12 Apr of ·Äúdnus Octho dns Grandissoni miles·Äù and his donation[1704].¬â€  Kingsford reviewed many details of Othon·Äôs life in the early 20th century[1705].¬â€ 
    2.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [AGNES de Grandson ([1240/45?]-9 Dec after 1313).¬â€  Her family origin is confirmed by the necrology entry cited below.¬â€  In addition, two of her sons are named as ·Äúnephews·Äù of her supposed brother Othon de Grandson (follow her husband·Äôs hyperlink for details).¬â€  Her marriage date suggests her birth in the early- to mid-1240s, which in turn suggests that Agn√®s was the daughter of Pierre [I] de Grandson by his [second] wife.¬â€  Her name reinforces the suggestion that she was the daughter of Agn√®s de Neuch√¢tel.¬â€  The testament of ·ÄúAgn√®s de Grandson veuve d·ÄôUlrich de Vuippens·Äù, dated Jul 1298, requested burial at Humilimont (except her heart to be buried at Grandson priory ·Äúaux pieds de sa m√®re et de son fr√®re·Äù), made numerous ecclesiastical bequests, and named ·Äú...son fils G√©rard seigneur de Vuippens et archidiacre de Richmond...·Äù among her executors[1706].¬â€  Agn√®s donated land ·Äúsises à Sorens·Äù to Humilimont by charter dated Mar 1302[1707].¬â€  The necrology of Humilimont records the death of ·Äúdne Agnet de Gandeson dna de Wypeyns ix die decembris·Äù and the Beaufort-Beauchamp book of hours ·ÄúV Id Dec·Äù of ·Äúdne Agnet de Gandeson dna de Wypeyns·Äù[1708].¬â€  Dey says that Agn√®s ·Äúvivait encore en 1313·Äù (no source cited)[1709].¬â€  m ([Nov 1257/[1260?]) as his second wife, ULRIC [I] Seigneur de Vuippens, son of --- (-11 Mar [1266/67]/[1268/Dec 1269]).]¬â€ 
    3.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  GERARD de Grandson ([1243/46]-1278, bur Ch√¢tillon).¬â€  His birth date is suggested based on the estimated birth date of his brother Pierre (see below).¬â€  ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1710], indicating that G√©rard had reached the age of majority at the time.¬â€  The order of names suggests that G√©rard was older than his brothers Jacques and Henri.¬â€  As noted above under his brother Othon, Wurstemberger reproduces an inaccurate version of the same charter.¬â€  Bishop of Verdun 1276.¬â€  The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record the succession as bishop in 1276 of ·ÄúGerardus de Grandisono·Äù, his death in 1278, and the succession of ·Äúfrater eius Henricus de Grandissono·Äù[1711].¬â€  Gallia Christiana records the burial at Ch√¢tillon of ·ÄúGerardus de Grandson 61 episcopus Virdunensis·Äù who died 1278[1712].¬â€ 
    4.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JACQUES de Grandson ([1245/48?]-[1290/Feb 1294]).¬â€  His birth date is suggested based on the estimated birth date of his brother Pierre (see below).¬â€  ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1713], indicating that Jacques had reached the age of majority at the time.¬â€  As noted above under his brother Othon, Wurstemberger reproduces an inaccurate version of the same charter.¬â€  Seigneur de Belmont: the Dictionnaire Historique de Vaud (which does not cite sources) records that Jacques de Grandson swore homage to ·ÄúAimon de La Sarraz·Äù (see above) for Belmont in 1272[1714].¬â€  The date must be incorrect considering that Aimon·Äôs daughter was named as Dame de la Sarraz in the 19 Dec 1269 charter quoted above, indicating that Aimon was deceased at the time.¬â€  The homage suggests that Jacques had recently acquired Belmont, maybe on his marriage.¬â€  Laure de Commercy Ctss d·ÄôAuxonne required ·ÄúJacon de Grandson seigneur de Belmont·Äù and Henri [II] de Joux to assign land to Pierre de Grandson Seigneur de Champvent, in litigation with Am√©d√©e de Montb√©liard Seigneur de Montfaucon, by charter dated 1275[1715].¬â€  Jacques presumably died before the following document: a mutual aid pact was agreed between local nobility, including ·Äú...Pierre de Grandson sire de Belmont et Jean son fils...·Äù, by charter dated Feb 1293 (O.S.)[1716].¬â€  This document is discussed further under Pierre [II] de Grandson below.¬â€  Jacques is named as deceased in the Papal dispensation for the marriage of his daughter Agnes, quoted below.¬â€  m ([before Dec 1269] --- [heiress of Belmont?], daughter of ---.¬â€  The primary source which confirms the name of Jacques·Äôs wife has not been identified.¬â€  Charri√®re shows ·ÄúBlanche·Äù, daughter of Richard de Belmont, married to Jacques de Grandson, son of Pierre [I] Seigneur de Grandson, in his ·ÄúTableau VI·Äù (although he records no descendants of Richard in his narrative about the Belmont family)[1717].¬â€  This suggestion is followed by the Dictionnaire Historique de Vaud (which does not cite sources)[1718].¬â€  The transfer of Belmont to Jacques and his descendants is best explained by his marriage to the heiress of the fief.¬â€  As Richard was old enough to approve a donation in a 1223 charter (follow Blanche·Äôs hyperlink), it seems surprising that his daughter married Jacques only ·Äúbefore Dec 1269·Äù (see above). ¬â€ A different perspective is provided by Debry: his reconstructed genealogy of the Dramelay/Neuch√¢tel family, as reproduced by Muller, shows ·ÄúB√©atrix de Neuch√¢tel·Äù, daughter of Richard de Neuch√¢tel, as the wife of Jacques de Grandson without providing any indication of the corresponding source[1719].¬â€  If Debry is correct, Jacques·Äôs wife was Beatrix, daughter of [Richard de Neuch√¢tel [en Bourgogne] & his wife Marguerite [de Monfaucon]].¬â€  Europ√§ische Stammtafeln also shows this marriage, presumably following Debry[1720].¬â€  Muller notes finding no source confirming the information, but adds that ·Äúnous nous rangeons donc ici à l·Äôavis de J. Debry·Äù[1721].¬â€  No earlier work, on either the Neuch√¢tel or Grandson families, has been found which names Beatrix, suggesting that Muller·Äôs confidence in Debry may be misplaced.¬â€  Jacques & his wife had [five] children:¬â€ 
    a)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  PIERRE [II] de Grandson (-2 Jul [1343]).¬â€  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified, although it is indicated by his marriage contract.¬â€ ¬â€  Seigneur de Belmont: the Dictionnaire Historique de Vaud records that Jacques·Äôs son Pierre was ·Äúseigneur de Belmont d√®s l·Äôann√©e 1300·Äù[1722].¬â€  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.¬â€ 
    -¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  see below.¬â€ 
    b)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [OTHON de Grandson (-1309).¬â€  This person is named as ·Äúnephew·Äù of Othon de Grandson in the 4 Mar 1301 document cited below.¬â€  His mentions from 1299 indicate that he was too old to have been the son of Othon·Äôs brother Guillaume (see below).¬â€  The most likely explanation is that he was another son of Jacques de Grandson.¬â€  An order dated 27 Sep 1299: ·Äúpresentation of Otto de Grandisono to the church of Mamecestre, in the diocese of Coventry and Lichfield...·Äù[1723].¬â€  [It is uncertain whether the following document relates to the same Othon: an order dated 2 Jun 1301 records a ·Äúcommission of oyer and terminer to...Henry Spygurnel and Robert de Hereward touching the persons who by night assaulted Otto de Grandisono, clerk at Cambridge, and beat his men·Äù[1724].]¬â€  Pope Boniface VIII, by bull dated 4 Mar 1301, granted ·Äúprovision...to Odo de Grandison nephew of Odo [de Grandison, knight], of a canonry and prebend of York, notwithstanding that he has canonries and prebends of Lausanne and Autun, and the churches of Manicestre, Wilquinton, and Picala (or Pickhill), in the dioceses of Chichester and York, the last two of which he is to resign·Äù[1725].¬â€  Dixon and Raine, referring to the same grant, say that Othon was brother of G√©rard de Grandson, prebendary of Apesthorpe (no source cited)[1726]: it is assumed that this was speculative based on both being named as ·Äúnephew·Äù of Othon de Grandson.¬â€  An order dated 8 Apr 1304 record ·Äúletters for Otto de Grandisono, parson of the church of Mammecestre, going beyond seas, nominating John Gousyn for two years·Äù[1727].¬â€  Gallia Christiana records the election in 1306 of ·ÄúOthonem scholasticum Tullensem, Bisuntinum archidiaconum et Virdunensem canonicum·Äù as bishop of Toul, adding that ·Äúpatruis habuit Gerardum et Henricum de Granson Virdunenses episcopos·Äù[1728].¬â€  Bishop of Toul.¬â€  Bishop of Basel 1306.¬â€  Gallia Christiana records his transfer to the bishopric of Basel[1729].]¬â€ 
    c)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  THIBAUT de Grandson (-[after 7 Sep 1349?]).¬â€  His parentage is confirmed by the 17 Nov 1319 document cited below. ¬â€ Pope Boniface VIII, by bull dated 4 Mar 1301, granted ·Äúprovision, at the request of Odo de Grandison de Grandison, knight, to his nephew Theobald, of a canonry at Lincoln, with reservation of a prebend, notwithstanding that he has canonries and prebends of Geneva and Wells, and the church of Eekington, in the diocese of Chichester, to hold which the pope gives him a dispensation·Äù[1730].¬â€  An order dated 1 May 1302 records ·ÄúTheobaldo de Grandisono, going beyond seas, nominating Peter de Cusancia for two years·Äù[1731]. ¬â€ Letters dated 1 Mar 1303 record the ·Äúpresentation of Reginald de Cusancia to a moiety of the church of Ekynton, void by the resignation of Theobald de Grandisono...·Äù[1732].¬â€  Letters dated 17 Nov 1319 record ·ÄúTheobaldo de Grandissono, filio domini Jacobi de Grandissono, domini Bellimontis·Äù selling property ·Äúin villa et territorio de Loguorre, de Gerissens, de Murs et de Villar en Vuillier...·Äù to ·Äúdomino Othoni·Äù[1733].¬â€  He is named in the document which names his son, quoted below.¬â€  This document naming his father suggests that the latter may have been alive at that date, although this is surprising if he was the same person named 1 May 1302.¬â€  Thibaut had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress:¬â€ 
    i)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JEAN b√¢tard de Grandson (-after 7 Jul 1359).¬â€  The testament of ·ÄúJohanna domina de Grandisono·Äù, dated 7 Sep 1349, was witnessed by ·ÄúJohanne Humberto de Grandisono canonico Bisuntino et Lausanensi...Johanne dicto Le Bastard filio Theobaldo de Grandisono...·Äù[1734].¬â€  ·Äú...Jean li batard...·Äù is named among the army of Othon Seigneur de Grandson in a charter dated 7 Jul 1359[1735].¬â€ 
    d)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  AGNES de Grandson (-[1331/2 Jan 1332]).¬â€  Pope Boniface VIII granted dispensation for the marriage of ·ÄúAymoni Villelmi domino de Montaniaco·Äù and ·ÄúAgneti nate quondam Jacobi de Grandisono militis·Äù dated 8 Dec 1295[1736].¬â€  A charter dated Aug 1328 records an agreement settling disputes between ·ÄúPierre seigneur de Gran√ßon·Äù and ·ÄúGuillaume seigr de Montagny tant en son nom que...de la Dame Agnes sa mere s≈ìur du dit Sieur de Gran√ßon·Äù[1737]. ¬â€ Charri√®re records her marriage but misstates her parentage)[1738].¬â€  Williams discusses Agnes, names her children, records other documents in which she is named, and suggests her date of death[1739].¬â€  m (Papal dispensation 8 Dec 1295) AIMON [III] de Montagny, son of GUILLAUME de Montagny & his wife --- (-before Aug 1328).¬â€ 
    e)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JACQUETTE de Grandson (-after Feb 1314).¬â€  Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the following document: ·ÄúEtienne d·ÄôOiselay seigneur de La Villeneuve·Äù acknowledged receipt of 2,500 livres tournois assigned on ·ÄúCh√¢tel de Fresne-Saint-Mam√®s and the villages of Neuvelle, Pont-de-Planches and La Villeneuve·Äù for his marriage to ·Äúhis wife Jaquette de Grandson, daughter of Jacques de Grandson seigneur de Belmont·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1310[1740].¬â€  This charter is reported by two secondary sources: Beaus√©jour (closely following the original text) records that ·ÄúEtienne d·ÄôOiselay seigneur de la Villeneuve·Äù acknowledged having received money assigned ·Äúsur le chastel de Fresne-Saint-Mam√®s...·Äù for his marriage with ·ÄúJacquette de Grandson, fille de Jacques de Grandson seigneur de Belmont·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1310[1741].¬â€  On the other hand, Plancher diverges from the text, recording that ·ÄúJacques de Granson·Äù granted revenue from ·Äúla terre et le ch√¢teau de Fresne-Saint-Mammetz·Äù to ·Äú[sa] fille Jacques·Äù on her marriage to ·ÄúEtienne d·ÄôOiselet Seigneur de la Villeneuve·Äù by charter dated ·Äúle jeudi apr√®s la S. Barthelemi·Äù 1310[1742].¬â€  The earliest date of Jacquette·Äôs first marriage is indicated by her first husband·Äôs first wife being recorded in 1302.¬â€  ·ÄúEtienne d·ÄôOiselet sire de la Villeneuve·Äù granted dower to ·ÄúJacquette de Grantson sa femme·Äù, undated but listed in a paragraph recording papers dated 1310-1584[1743].¬â€  Guillaume records that ·ÄúJacquette de Granson·Äù, daughter of ·ÄúJacques de Granson Seigneur de Beaumont, vivant en 1300·Äù, married firstly ·ÄúEtienne d·ÄôOiselet Sire de la Villeneuve, veuf d·ÄôAlix de Choiseul·Äù and secondly ·ÄúJean de Boyon chevalier qui vendit Feb 1313 [O.S.?] conjoint√©ment avec sa femme à Hugues Duc de Bourgogne le ch√¢teau de Fresne-Saint-Mammers·Äù[1744].¬â€  The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not been identified.¬â€  m firstly ([[1303]/31 Aug 1310]) as his second wife, ETIENNE [IV] d·ÄôOiselay Seigneur de La Villeneuve, son of --- ([1260/70]-4 Oct 1310).¬â€  m secondly JEAN de Bayon, son of PHILIPPE de Bayon Seigneur de Bayon & his wife Agnes de Riste (-[1340/Oct 1343]).¬â€ 
    5.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  HENRI de Grandson ([1246/49?]-1286, bur Ch√¢tillon).¬â€  His birth date is suggested based on the estimated birth date of his brother Pierre (see below).¬â€  ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1745], indicating that Henri had reached the age of majority at the time.¬â€  As noted above under his brother Othon, Wurstemberger reproduces an inaccurate version of the same charter.¬â€  An order dated 26 May 1276 records ·Äúsimple protection, for two years, for Henry de Grandisono, parson of the church of Creystok·Äù[1746].¬â€  Bishop of Verdun 1278.¬â€  The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record the succession as bishop in 1276 of ·ÄúGerardus de Grandisono·Äù, his death in 1278, and the succession of ·Äúfrater eius Henricus de Grandissono·Äù[1747].¬â€  Gallia Christiana records the burial at Ch√¢tillon of ·ÄúHenrice de Grandsono·Äù[1748].¬â€ 
    6.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  PIERRE de Grandson ([after] [1249]-[31 Aug 1263/Jul 1275], bur [Grandson Priory]).¬â€  Under age in 1263: ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1749].¬â€  As noted above under his brother Othon, Wurstemberger reproduces an inaccurate version of the same charter.¬â€  Williams records 14 as the age of majority in the diocese of Lausanne at that time[1750], indicating Pierre·Äôs birth [1249] (or after)[1751].¬â€  Williams records a charter dated Jul 1275 which names the then living Grandson brothers but omits Pierre, and suggests that he may have been the unnamed son buried with his mother at Grandson priory (see above)[1752].¬â€ 
    7.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  GUILLAUME de Grandson ([after 1250]-27 Jun 1335).¬â€  Under age in 1263: ·ÄúAgnes domina de Grandisono, tutrix...liberorum nostrorum Petri et Willelmi, Girardus, Jaquetus et Henricus pro se et fratre suo Otonino, filii predicte domine·Äù exchanged property with ·ÄúPetro comiti Sabaudie·Äù by charter dated 31 Aug 1263[1753].¬â€  As noted above under his brother Othon, Wurstemberger reproduces an inaccurate version of the same charter.¬â€  He was summoned to the English parliament from 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Grandson [Grandison][1754].¬â€ 
    -¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  ENGLISH NOBILITY ·Äì GRANDSON.¬â€ 
    8.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [GUILLEMETTE de Grandson (-24 Oct 1307).¬â€  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.¬â€ ¬â€  Williams, concluding that ·Äúthere can be little doubt that she was a daughter of Pierre de Grandson·Äù, adds other biographical details[1755].¬â€  Her marriage date suggests that she was one of her parents·Äô youngest children.¬â€  ·ÄúPetrus miles filius·Ä¶Rodulfi comitis de Gruyeria·Äù donated property to the abbey of Hauterive, with the consent of ·Äúdomine Ambrosie uxoris nostre et Petri filii nostri et Willermete uxoris eiusdem Petri necnon filiarum nostrarum Ioannete, Perrete et Columbe·Äù, by charter dated Mar 1267[1756].¬â€  ·ÄúPetrus comes de Grueres·Äù sold land to the bishop of Lausanne, with the consent of ·ÄúPetri et Perrete liberorum nostrorum et Willermete uxoris dicti Petri·Äù, by charter dated 2 Aug 1277[1757].¬â€  ·ÄúPetri filii domini Petri comitis de Grueriis et Willermete uxoris eiusdem Petri iunioris et liberorum suorum Rodolfi et Petri·Äù consented to a donation to Hauterive by charter dated Dec 1279[1758].¬â€  ·ÄúPetrus comes de Grueria, Willeta relicta quondam Petri filii eiusdem comitis, Rodulphus et Petrus filii quondam Petri predicte et dicte Willete·Äù declared having received jewels from Hauterive abbey which ·Äúdomina Agnes, relicta quondam domini Rodulphi condomini de Greysie, soror nostra predicti comitis·Äù had deposited with the abbey, by charter dated Apr 1285[1759].¬â€  ·ÄúPetrus comes de Grueria, Rodulfus, Petrus filii quondam Petri filii dicti domini comitis et Guillermeta relicta predicti Petri bone memorie quondam iunioris comitis·Äù relinquished their rights in property at Villarlod to Hauterive abbey by charter dated 22 May 1290[1760].¬â€  ·ÄúWillelmeta uxor quondam·Ä¶Petri comitis Gruerie et Petrus eiusdem filius·Äù founded the abbey of la Chartreuse de La Part-Dieu, with the consent of ·ÄúKatherine uxoris mei dicti Petri, Perrodi et Iohannis filiorum quondam bone memorie Rodulphi de Grueris filii mei dicte Willermete·Äù, by charter dated Oct 1307[1761].¬â€  The necrology of Gruy√®re Saint-Th√©odule records the death ·ÄúIX Kal Nov·Äù of ·ÄúWuilliermeta comitissa Gruerie·Äù[1762].¬â€  m (before Mar 1267) PIERRE de Gruy√®re, son of PIERRE [II] Comte de Gruy√®re & his wife Ambrosie --- (-3 Sep 1283).]¬â€ 
    9.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [JORDANE [de Grandson] (-10 Dec ----).¬â€  Her parentage and marriages are shown in Europ√§ische Stammtafeln[1763].¬â€  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified, although Williams concludes that ·Äúa strong tradition exists that she belonged to the house of Grandson·Äù (adding other biographical details)[1764].¬â€  If her parentage is correct, the date of her first marriage suggests that she was one of her parents·Äô youngest children.¬â€  The necrology of Bonmont records the death 10 Dec of ·ÄúJordana domina de Villar·Äù and her donation[1765].¬â€  m firstly ([1 Feb 1277/Feb 1278]) as his second wife, AIMON [III] Seigneur de la Tour, son of GIROLD [I] Seigneur de la Tour & his wife --- (-[1 Feb 1277/1 Mar 1278]).¬â€  m secondly (after Mar 1278) as his second wife, HUMBERT [III] Seigneur de Thoire et Villars Seigneur d·ÄôAubonne, son of ETIENNE [II] Seigneur de Thoire et Villars & his wife Beatrix de Faucigny ([after 1235]-14 May 1301, bur Saint-Claude).]¬â€ 
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    Various documents show relationships between the Grandson family and four other noble families in the Vaud/Fribourg area.¬â€  In these cases, members of those families are named as ·Äúnephew/nepos·Äù of Othon [I] Seigneur de Grandson, son of Pierre [I] (see above).¬â€  At first sight, it would seem that the mother of each ·Äúnephew·Äù was Othon·Äôs sister.¬â€  However, bearing in mind that the term ·Äúnepos·Äù could indicate nephew, grandson, or even a more remote cousin relationship, the Grandson connection could in each case have been through: (1) an otherwise unrecorded daughter of Pierre [I] de Grandson by his known wife Agn√®s de Neuch√¢tel; (2) a daughter (or granddaughter, depending on the chronology) of Pierre·Äôs possible first wife (see above); (3) a descendant of one of the other sons or daughters of Ebles [III] Seigneur de Grandson; or (4) even the mother(s) of one or more of the ·Äúnephew(s)·Äù in question being the illegitimate daughter(s) of Othon de Grandson himself, if they had been born in the late 1250s/early 1260s (although this last case seems less likely as no document has been found which suggests that Othon had illegitimate children).¬â€  For presentational purposes, these mothers are all shown below as ·Äú--- [de Grandson]·Äù, but because of this range of possible relationships they may have belonged to other agnatic families, with the Grandson connection by descent through the female line.¬â€  Williams discusses all these cases in detail[1766].¬â€ 
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    1.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  --- [de Grandson] ([1220/25?] or [1253/57?]-[1240/42?] or [after [1275]?]).¬â€  This supposed person·Äôs marriage and Grandson connection are indicated by an order dated 3 Jul 1290 confirming a charter of ·ÄúOtto de Grandison·Äù which granted properties in Ireland to ·ÄúPeter de Estanayaco (or Estanayco) [see the Estavayer case below], his nephew·Äù, with remainder to [this person·Äôs presumed son] ·ÄúJohn de Estratelinges [=Str√§tlingen], called ·ÄòRusselet·Äô [origin of this nickname untraced], another nephew of the said Otto·Äù[1767].¬â€  There are two possibilities for the Str√§tlingen husband of this ·Äú--- [de Grandson]·Äù, which also explain the alternative estimated birth and death dates shown above for his wife.¬â€  Case (1): m ([1235/40?])] [as his first wife,] Heinrich [II] von Str√§tlingen, son of Johann [I] von Str√§tlingen & his wife [--- von Rapperswil] (-12 Apr, after 4 Dec 1263).¬â€  B√¶chtold records Heinrich [II]·Äôs parentage, with other biographical details[1768].¬â€  The Manuel g√©n√©alogique pour servir à l·Äôhistoire de la Suisse records ·ÄúJohannes III·Äù von Str√§tlingen, named in charters dated 17/20 Sep 1260, 1 Mar 1263, and 4 Dec 1263 with his father Heinrich [II] and his two younger brothers Rudolf [II] and Heinrich [III], and suggests that Johann [III] ·Äúsoll nach England gezogen sein (?)·Äù[1769].¬â€  M√ºlinen, noting the 3 Jul 1290 ¬â€ reference, suggests that Othon de Grandson·Äôs sister may have been the mother of ·ÄúJohn·Äù, and that she was maybe his father·Äôs first wife (·Äúdie Bezeichnung als Neffe könnte vermuten lassen, dass Ottos Schwester die Frau Henrichs II von Str√§tlingen, vielleicht seine erste Frau war·Äù), while not hesitating to identity ·ÄúJohn·Äù in England with Johann [III] (·Äúunbedenklich können wir den Johann de Estratelinges, der in England lebte und dort starb, mit Johann III., Heinrichs II. Sohn identifizieren·Äù)[1770].¬â€  The dates of the three documents cited in the Manuel , read together with later documents which name the two younger brothers, suggest that all three brothers were young adults in the early 1260s, born presumably in the early- to mid-1240s.¬â€  The Manuel also records that Johann [III]·Äôs brother Heinrich [III] named ·Äúavunculus meus Rudolfus dicts Chiener domicellus·Äù in a charter dated 4 Feb 1289[1771], suggesting that Heinrich·Äôs mother was Rudolf Chiener·Äôs sister (assuming that avunculus was used in its strict sense of maternal uncle).¬â€  Johann [III] and Heinrich [III] could therefore have been half-brothers (in line with M√ºlinen·Äôs suggestion that their father married twice).¬â€  If M√ºlinen is correct, Heinrich [II]·Äôs Grandson wife would have been born in [1220/25], married [1235/40?], and died [1240/42?], consistent with other aspects of the Str√§tlingen family chronology.¬â€  If she was Othon de Grandson·Äôs sister, she must therefore have been born either from a first marriage of his father (the possibility of this first marriage is discussed above) or she was illegitimate (which seems unlikely if she married into the Str√§tlingen noble family).¬â€  An alternative is that she was Othon de Grandson·Äôs cousin.¬â€  In this scenario, ·ÄúJohn·Äù would have been about 60 years old (born around the same time as Othon de Grandson) when first mentioned in England, after a gap of nearly 30 years since his last mention in Switzerland.¬â€  Although consistent with the death before 1303 of ·ÄúJohn·Äù (see below), this age seems surprising as Othon·Äôs other ·Äúnephews·Äù were young men when he promoted their careers in England.¬â€  This leads us to the second case which would resolve this chronological anomaly.¬â€  Case (2): m ([1268/72?]) --- von Str√§tlingen, son of ---.¬â€  This person would have been an otherwise unrecorded junior member of the Str√§tlingen family, maybe a cousin of Johann [III], the couple·Äôs son ·ÄúJohn·Äù being born in [1270/75] which is consistent with his being a young man when recorded in England.¬â€  If that is correct, the mother of ·ÄúJohn·Äù could have been born ([1253/57?]), one of the possibilities being that she could have been one of the youngest children of Pierre [I] de Grandson by his known wife Agn√®s de Neuch√¢tel.¬â€  ·ÄúJohn·Äù von Str√§tlingen died before Feb 1303: an order dated 4 Feb 1303 pardoned ·Äúthe executors of the will of John le Stratelinges·Äù for a debt owed to ·ÄúHenry de Podio, merchant of Luca...·Äù and ·ÄúGerard de Wyspains, archdeacon of Richmond, and Walter de Langeton, now bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, his pledges·Äù[1772].¬â€  English records also name ·ÄúPeter von Str√§tlingen·Äù (without any relationship specified with Othon de Grandson).¬â€  His precise parentage has not been traced, but in case (1) he could have been the son of ·ÄúJohn·Äù, and in case (2) his brother: an order dated 1 Apr 1298 records ·ÄúOtto de Grandison, gone to the court of Rome on the king·Äôs arduous affairs, nominating Peter de Stratelinges, knight, in Ireland, for three years·Äù [as his attorney], and ·ÄúPeter de Stanye [Estanayer], staying beyond seas, nominating Peter de Stratelenges in Ireland for two years·Äù[1773].¬â€  The Estavayer/Str√§tlingen connection in this document reflects the 3 Jul 1290 order cited above, together suggesting a close family relationship between the two ·Äú--- [de Grandson]·Äù ladies who married into these two families.¬â€  Letters dated 12 Jun 1298: ·Äúfor Joan, wife of Peter de Stradlinges, going to Ireland, nominating...her attorneys for two years·Äù[1774].¬â€  Peter is not named in the Str√§tlingen table in the Manuel[1775].¬â€  M√ºlinen records some more information concerning ·ÄúPeter (de Straddeleye, Stratelinges, Stradlinge, Stradelinges, Stradlinges)·Äù in England in the 1290s, but does not give his parentage[1776].¬â€ 
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    2.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  --- [de Grandson] ([1230/40?]-).¬â€  This supposed person·Äôs marriage and Grandson connection are indicated by an order dated 3 Jul 1290 confirming a charter of ·ÄúOtto de Grandison·Äù which granted properties in Ireland to ·ÄúPeter de Estanayaco (or Estanayco) [her supposed son Pierre [II] d·ÄôEstavayer], his nephew·Äù, with remainder to ·ÄúJohn de Estratelinges [=Str√§tlingen, see above], called ·ÄòRusselet·Äô, another nephew of the said Otto·Äù[1777].¬â€  This is the same document cited above under the supposed Grandson daughter who married into the Str√§tlingen family, and suggests a close family relationship between the mothers of these two beneficiaries of Othon de Grandson·Äôs protection.¬â€  This suggestion is reinforced by the 1 Apr 1298 order cited above which also names Estavayer and Str√§tlingen in the same document.¬â€  Pierre [II]·Äôs brother Guillaume is also named as Othon·Äôs ·Äúnephew·Äù in an order dated 1 Dec 1289, and Othon as Guillaume·Äôs ·Äúuncle·Äù in an 8 Sep 1308 document (follow their father·Äôs hyperlink for details).¬â€  Her marriage date (indicated by the likely birth date of Pierre [II]) suggests that, if she was the daughter of Pierre [I] de Grandson, she would have been one of his older children, maybe even born from his possible first marriage.¬â€  Follow her supposed husband·Äôs hyperlink for discussion about his identity, which is also a complex question.¬â€  m ([1248/54?]) --- d·ÄôEstavayer, son of ---.¬â€ 
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    3.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  --- [de Grandson] ([1245/50?]-).¬â€  This supposed person·Äôs marriage and Grandson connection are indicated by the dispensation of Pope Clement V dated 19 Oct 1305 which names ·ÄúOthonis de Grandisono...cum nepote eius...Petro de Orons thesaurario eccl. Lausunen.·Äù, as well as the 3 Jul 1290 charter which names her second son G√©rard as ·Äúnephew·Äù of Othon[1778].¬â€  Europ√§ische Stammtafeln names her ·ÄúJaquette de Grandson·Äù (no parents named)[1779], which Williams suggests is ·Äúprobably a confusion with her niece Jacquette de Grandson-Belmont·Äù[1780].¬â€  Her marriage is estimated to [1265?] based on the likely birth date of her second son, which in turn suggests her birth date in [1245/50?].¬â€  If that estimate is correct, this person could have been the daughter of Pierre [I] de Grandson by his known wife Agn√®s de Neufch√¢tel.¬â€  Alternatively she could have been a granddaughter of Pierre [I] by his supposed first marriage or the descendant of another child of Ebles [III] Seigneur de Grandson.¬â€  m ([1265?]) PIERRE d·ÄôOron co-Seigneur de Vevey, son of --- (-1301).¬â€ 
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    4.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  --- [de Grandson] ([1255/58?]-).¬â€  This supposed person·Äôs marriage and Grandson connection are indicated by an indult of Pope Clement V dated 8 Sep 1308 names ·ÄúOttonis domini de Grandisono...nepoti eius Guillelmo...de Bonovilerio [her supposed son] canonico et preposito ecclesie Lausanen.·Äù[1781].¬â€  Her marriage is estimated to [1270/73?], consistent with the chronology of the Bonvillars family, which suggests that this person would have been Othon [I]·Äôs first wife who was named ·ÄúPoncette·Äù in his [before 23] Nov 1299 testament (follow his hyperlink for details).¬â€  If that estimated marriage date is correct, this person could have been the daughter of Pierre [I] de Grandson by his known wife Agn√®s de Neufch√¢tel.¬â€  Alternatively she could have been a granddaughter of Pierre [I] by his supposed first marriage or the descendant of another child of Ebles [III] Seigneur de Grandson.¬â€  m ([1270/73?]) as his first wife, OTHON [I] Seigneur de Bonvillars, son of GUILLAUME de Bonvillars & his wife --- ([before 1250?]-[late Nov 1299/15 May 1312]).¬â€ 

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Voorouders (en nakomelingen) van Pierre I Grandison Grandson


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  1. GenealogieOnline

    http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=WebASM-9289&h=33013514&indiv=try
    Record for William Grandison

Historische gebeurtenissen



Dezelfde geboorte/sterftedag

Bron: Wikipedia


Over de familienaam Grandison Grandson


Wilt u bij het overnemen van gegevens uit deze stamboom alstublieft een verwijzing naar de herkomst opnemen:
Marvin Loyd Welborn, "Family Tree Welborn", database, Genealogie Online (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/family-tree-welborn/I9008.php : benaderd 25 mei 2024), "Pierre I Grandison Grandson Seigneur de Grandison (± 1190-1263)".