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Simon I de Clermont, Seigneur d'Ailly-sur-Noye
French: Simon DE CLERMONT, Seigneur d'Ailly-sur-Noye
Gender:
Male
Birth:
estimated between 1113 and 1171
Clermont,Beauvais,Oise,France
Death:
after 1187
Immediate Family:
Son of Renaud II (III), comte de Clermont en Beauvaisis and Clemence De Bar Sur Aube
Husband of Mahaut de Brâ©teuâØl
Father of Jeanne Beatrix de Clermont, [uncertain parentage]; Raoul II de Clermont, seigneur d'Ailly; Guy de Clermont and Clemence de Clermont, Dame de Breteuil [uncertain parentage]
Brother of Raoul I "le roux", comte de Clermont en Beauvaisis; Mathilda (Mathilde) "Maud" de Clermont, comtesse de Dammartin; Constance de Clermont, comtesse de Clermont; Marguerite de Clermont, the younger; Guy de Clermont; Etienne de Clermont; Renaud de Clermont; Hugues de Clermont, Bishop of Metz and Gauthier de Clermont ¬´ less
Half brother of Marguerite de Clermont, the elder sister; Raoul de Clermont, died young and Clâ©mence de Dammartin de Bar, heiress de Dammartin & de Bar
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SIMON de Clermont, son of RENAUD Comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis & his second wife Clâ©mence de Bar (-1187 or after). "·Ä¶Fratris mei Symon et Stephanus" consented to the donation by "Radulfus·Ä¶comes Clarimontis" to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1162[160]. The primary source which confirms the identity of Simon's mother has not been identified. Simon's absence, together with Raoul and Etienne, from the list of Comte Renaud's sons by his wife Clâ©mence de Bar in the GenealogiⶠScriptoris Fusniacensis (see above) suggests that the two groups of brothers may have been born from different marriages, although the issue is not without doubt [161]. This hypothesis may be corroborated by Simon and Etienne, and their sister Mathilde, subscribing Raoul's 1162 charter, without any of the other named [half-]brothers. Louvet notes a donation to the priory of Gournay-sur-Aronde made by ·ÄúRainal Comte de Clermont et Clemence sa femme·Äù which was confirmed and supplemented in 1165 by ·Äúleurs enfans...Raoult Comte de Clermont, Simon, Gautier, Margueritte, Matilde et Comtesse·Äù[162]. ·ÄúRadulfus comes Clarimontis·Äù donated rights ·Äúin molendino de Levrel·Äù to Jumiâ®ges by charter dated [5 Apr 1170/27 Mar 1171], subscribed by ·ÄúSymone fratre comitis...·Äù[163]. ·ÄúRadulfus...comes Clarimontis et dominus Britolii·Äù reached agreement with Lannoy abbey over ·Äúfeodis meis in Montania·Äù, with the consent of ·Äúuxore mea comitissa Aeliza et filia mea Katerina et fratre meo Symone cum uxore sua Matilde·Äù, by charter dated 1174[164]. "Radulfus·Ä¶comes Claromontensis" donated the church of Saint-Evremond de Creil to the priory of Saint-Leu d·ÄôEsserent, with the consent of "fratribus meis Hugone primicerio Metensis ecclesi⶷Ķecclesiⶠde Credulio abate, et Simone milite fratre meo·Ä¶", by charter dated 24 Feb 1176[165]. "Symonis fratris mei, Petri Ambianensis nepotis mei" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Radulfus comes Claromonensis" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[166]. Seigneur d'Ailly-sur-Noye. "Dnus Symon de Alliaco" donated property to Saint-Leu d·ÄôEsserent, with the consent of "Matildis uxor eius et filii eius Radulfus et Guido et Dnus Robertus de Bova", by charter dated to before 1191, but received 1193, signed by "Rodulfus comes de Claromonte·Ä¶"[167].
m MATHILDE de Breteuil, daughter of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil-en-Beauvaisis & his first wife Holdeburge dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny (-14 Mar 1208). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissam Clarimontis Belvacensis et uxorem Symonis Clarimontis et Emiciam" as the three daughters of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" & her first husband[168], although it appears chronologically unlikely for Mathilde, wife of Simon de Clermont, to have been the daughter of Valeran [III] by his second wife. The correct parentage of Alix and her sister Mathilde is confirmed by the charter dated 1153 which records that ·ÄúGalerannum de Britoglio·Äù donated property at Champmartin at Rueil-sur-Bâ®che to Froidmont abbey, with the consent of ·ÄúHugone fratre suo...et Holdeburge uxore Galeranni, Aalsi et Mathilde filiabus eius·Äù[169]. Dame d·ÄôAilly: [the widow of her grandson] ·ÄúGertrudis domina Alliaci...Joannes filius meus·Äù confirmed the donation of land ·Äúapud Beeleuses in decima quam emit Matilidis de Alliaco mater predicti Radulfi·Äù made by ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte quondam maritus meus·Äù by charter dated 1225[170]. ·ÄúRadulfus...comes Clarimontis et dominus Britolii·Äù reached agreement with Lannoy abbey over ·Äúfeodis meis in Montania·Äù, with the consent of ·Äúuxore mea comitissa Aeliza et filia mea Katerina et fratre meo Symone cum uxore sua Matilde·Äù, by charter dated 1174[171]. "Dnus Symon de Alliaco" donated property to Saint-Leu d·ÄôEsserent, with the consent of "Matildis uxor eius et filii eius Radulfus et Guido et Dnus Robertus de Bova", by charter dated to before 1191, but received 1193, signed by "Rodulfus comes de Claromonte·Ä¶"[172].
Simon & his wife had [four] children:
1. RAOUL [I] (-30 Mar 1225). "Dnus Symon de Alliaco" donated property to Saint-Leu d·ÄôEsserent, with the consent of "Matildis uxor eius et filii eius Radulfus et Guido et Dnus Robertus de Bova", by charter dated to before 1191, but received 1193, signed by "Rodulfus comes de Claromonte·Ä¶"[173]. ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù confirmed the donation of harvest ·Äúapud Beeloses·Äù made to Lannoy by ·ÄúMatildis de Alliaco mater mea·Äù by charter dated 1207[174]. ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam meam de Tartegni·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúGertrudis uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Joannis, Symonis, Theobaldi et Renaldi·Äù, by charter dated 1215[175]. ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte·Äù agreed with Louis VIII King of France to renounce his claims ·Äúin comitatu Clarimontis·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúJohannes et Simon filii mei·Äù, in return for the right to purchase ·ÄúeschaetⶠAmiciⶠdominⶠBritolii de terra Britolii et eius pertinentiiis tam feodis quam domaniis·Äù if he lived ·Äúpost decessum Amiciⶠpredict⶷Äù, by charter dated Nov 1223[176]. m (1203) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Nesle, widow of RAINAUD de Mello, daughter of JEAN [I] de Nesle Châ¢telain de Bruges & his wife Elisabeth van Peteghem (-after Jun 1239). ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam meam de Tartegni·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúGertrudis uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Joannis, Symonis, Theobaldi et Renaldi·Äù, by charter dated 1215[177]. ·ÄúGertrudis domina Alliaci...Joannes filius meus·Äù confirmed donations ·Äúapud Beeleuses·Äù made to Beauprâ© by ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte quondam maritus meus...in decima quam emit Matildis de Aliaco mater predicti Radulfi·Äù by charter dated 1225[178]. ·ÄúSimon de Claromonte miles dominus de Alliaco...Gertrudis domina de Alliaco et Bullis mater eiusdem·Äù sold land ·Äúde la Houssiâ®re·Äù to Froidmont by charter dated Mar 1237[179]. Raoul & his wife had [six] children:
a) JEAN (-after 1225). ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam meam de Tartegni·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúGertrudis uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Joannis, Symonis, Theobaldi et Renaldi·Äù, by charter dated 1215[180]. ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte·Äù agreed with Louis VIII King of France to renounce his claims ·Äúin comitatu Clarimontis·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúJohannes et Simon filii mei·Äù, in return for the right to purchase ·ÄúeschaetⶠAmiciⶠdominⶠBritolii de terra Britolii et eius pertinentiiis tam feodis quam domaniis·Äù if he lived ·Äúpost decessum Amiciⶠpredict⶷Äù, by charter dated Nov 1223[181]. ·ÄúGertrudis domina Alliaci...Joannes filius meus·Äù confirmed donations ·Äúapud Beeleuses·Äù made to Beauprâ© by ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte quondam maritus meus...in decima quam emit Matildis de Aliaco mater predicti Radulfi·Äù by charter dated 1225[182].
b) SIMON [II] de Clermont (-1 Feb 1286). ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam meam de Tartegni·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúGertrudis uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Joannis, Symonis, Theobaldi et Renaldi·Äù, by charter dated 1215[183].
- see below.
c) THIBAUT . ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam meam de Tartegni·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúGertrudis uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Joannis, Symonis, Theobaldi et Renaldi·Äù, by charter dated 1215[184].
d) RENAUD . ·ÄúRadulfus de Claromonte dominus Alliaci·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam meam de Tartegni·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúGertrudis uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Joannis, Symonis, Theobaldi et Renaldi·Äù, by charter dated 1215[185].
e) RAOUL [II] de Clermont (-[after 1243]). His parentage is indicated by the charter dated Apr 1243 under which [his cousin] ·ÄúSimon de Dargies miles dominus Britolii·Äù confirmed donations of harvest ·Äúde prato in granchia de Tartigny·Äù made to Beauprâ© by ·Äúdominus Radulfus de Claramonte quondam avunculus meus...cognatus meus Radulfus de Claromonte miles filius predicti domini Radulfi·Äù[186]. The wording of this document indicates that Raoul·Äôs father was already dead at the time but that Raoul himself was still alive.
- SEIGNEURS de TARTIGNY[187].
f) [--- de Clermont . ·ÄúDominum Gobertum de Dargies dominum de Kateu militem·Äù settled a dispute with the church of Amiens, with the consent of ·ÄúSymonis de Claromonte> militis domini de Nigella avunculi sui·Äù, by charter dated 9 Sep 1278[188]. If ·Äúavunculus·Äù in this document can be interpreted in its strict sense of maternal uncle, Gobert·Äôs mother would have been the sister of Simon [II] de Clermont. If this hypothesis is correct, a Papal dispensation would have been necessary (on the assumption that the paternal grandmother of Renaud [I] de Dargies, Jeanne [Beatrix], was the daughter of Simon [I] de Clermont as suggested below) as Renaud·Äôs father would have been the first cousin to his wife. That appears to be rather close consanguinity for the grant of a dispensation. If, on the other hand, Jeanne [Beatrix] was the daughter of Amicie de Breteuil (another difficult problem which is discussed elsewhere in the present document) the relationship would be more remote. Another explanation of 9 Sep 1278 charter is that ·Äúavunculus·Äù is used in a broad sense to describe Gobert·Äôs blood relationship with Simon de Clermont. m [as his first wife,] RENAUD [I] Seigneur de Dargies, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Dargies & his wife Isabelle de Mello (-[19 Mar/Dec] 1269).]
2. GUY . "Dnus Symon de Alliaco" donated property to Saint-Leu dမEsserent, with the consent of "Matildis uxor eius et filii eius Radulfus et Guido et Dnus Robertus de Bova", by charter dated to before 1191, but received 1193, signed by "Rodulfus comes de Claromonteဦ"[189].
3. [CLEMENCE (-[Nov 1226/1231]). The doubts about the parentage of Clâ©mence are discussed in detail in the introduction to the section of the present document which sets out the Seigneurs de Breteuil (Beausault). The conclusion is that the more likely possibility is that she was the daughter of Simon de Clermont and his wife Mathilde de Breteuil, although the alternative possibility that Amicie de Breteuil, younger half-sister of Mathilde, was her mother cannot be excluded entirely. ·ÄúSymon de Belsat·Äù donated harvest from ·Äúgrangiam de Moncellis·Äù to Lannoy, for the soul of ·ÄúSymonis avunculi mei·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúClementie uxoris mee·Äù, by charter dated to [1205][190]. ·ÄúSymon de Bello Saltu·Äù donated land ·Äúde Moncellis et villam de Feucheres·Äù to Lannoy, for the souls of ·Äúmee et Clementie uxoris mee et Gaufridi filii mei·Äù, with the consent of ·ÄúClementie uxoris mee et filiorum meorum Willermi et Symonis·Äù, by charter dated 1216[191]. ·ÄúSimon de Bellosaltu, Clementia uxor eius et Johenna de Argies·Äù repurchased ·ÄúterrⶠBritholii, de dicto rege moventis·Äù for 3,000 Parisian pounds, with the exception of ·Äúpactionibus quas Amicia domina Britholii·Äù had made ·Äúcum domino rege·Äù, by charter dated Nov 1226[192]. Dame de Breteuil. m SIMON de Beausault, son of --- (-after 28 Apr 1239).]
4. [JEANNE [Beatrix] ([1175/80]-7 Mar [1228/Mar 1232]). The doubts about the parentage of Jeanne are discussed in detail in the introduction to the section of the present document which sets out the Seigneurs de Breteuil (Beausault). The conclusion is that the more likely possibility is that she was the daughter of Simon de Clermont and his wife Mathilde de Breteuil, although the alternative possibility that Amicie de Breteuil, younger half-sister of Mathilde, was her mother cannot be excluded entirely. ·ÄúBalduinus dominus de Dargies·Äù donated property to Beauvais Saint-Quentin, with the consent of ·Äúuxoris sue Joanne que cognomento dicitur Beatrix et filiorum meorum Simonis et Balduini·Äù, by charter dated 1194[193]. ·ÄúSymon dominus de Dargies et Beatrix mater mea·Äù donated property to Beauprâ© by charter dated 1206[194]. Dame de Catheu et de Breteuil. ·ÄúSimon de Bellosaltu, Clementia uxor eius et Johenna de Argies·Äù repurchased ·ÄúterrⶠBritholii, de dicto rege moventis·Äù for 3,000 Parisian pounds, with the exception of ·Äúpactionibus quas Amicia domina Britholii·Äù had made ·Äúcum domino rege·Äù, by charter dated Nov 1226[195]. The necrology of Beauprâ© records the death ·ÄúNon Mar·Äù of ·ÄúJohanna...domina de Dargies et dimidie partis castellanie de Britolio·Äù[196]. m (before 1192) BAUDOUIN de Dargies, son of --- (-before 1206).]
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