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- Zij is geboren rond 1180 in Of, Winchester, Hampshire, England.
- Zij is overleden in het jaar 1270.
- Een kind van Saier de Quincy de Quincy en Margaret de Quincy (de Beaumont)
- Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 11 januari 2022.
Gezin van Loretta de Quincy
Zij is getrouwd met William de Valoynes (de Valognes).
Zij zijn getrouwd
Kind(eren):
Notities over Loretta de Quincy
Loretta de Quincy is your 22nd great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith (Lee)
his mother ·Üí William "Will" Manassas Lee
her father ·Üí Martha Lee (Collier)
his mother ·Üí Stephen T Collier
her father ·Üí Catherine Collier (Roberts)
his mother ·Üí Sarah Katherine Roberts (Turner)
her mother ·Üí John Turner, Sr.
her father ·Üí Thomas Turner of Frederick County
his father ·Üí Anne Turner (Greer)
his mother ·Üí Sir James Greer of Lag, of Capenoch
her father ·Üí Nichola Grierson (Maxwell)
his mother ·Üí John Maxwell, Lord Herries of Terregles
her father ·Üí Robert Maxwell, 5th Lord Maxwell
his father ·Üí John Maxwell, 4th Lord Maxwell
his father ·Üí Janet Crichton
his mother ·Üí George Crichton, 1st Earl of Caithness
her father ·Üí Stephen Crichton of Cairns
his father ·Üí Isabel de Ros
his mother ·Üí Lora de Baliol
her mother ·Üí Sir Alexander de Baliol of Cavers, 1st Lord Balliol
her father ·Üí Lora de Valognes
his mother ·Üí Loretta de Quincy
her mother
========Maternal===============
Loretta de Quincy is your 25th great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, R1b1a2a1a1b
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith (Lee)
his mother ·Üí William "Will" M Lee
her father ·Üí Martha Lee (Collier)
his mother ·Üí Stephen T Collier
her father ·Üí William Randolph Collier, Sr.
his father ·Üí Aaron Collier, Sr.
his father ·Üí Capt. John Collier, Il
his father ·Üí Elizabeth Gaines Collier
his mother ·Üí Francis Ironmonger, Esq.
her father ·Üí Bridget Iremonger
his mother ·Üí Bridget Mompesson
her mother ·Üí Edward Goddard, Esq.
her father ·Üí Elizabeth Goddard
his mother ·Üí Lady Dorothy Hungerford, of East Shefford
her mother ·Üí Sir John Danvers, Kt.
her father ·Üí Richard Danvers, of Prescote
his father ·Üí John Danvers
his father ·Üí Agnes Danvers
his mother ·Üí Margaret de Brancestor
her mother ·Üí Henry Mile
her father ·Üí Walter de Maule
his father ·Üí Sir Henry de Maule
his father ·Üí William de Maule
his father ·Üí Christina de Valognes, Lady of Panmure
his mother ·Üí Loretta de Quincy
her mother
===========Paternal=============
Loretta de Quincy is your 27th great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Francis (Fannie) Pernerviane Welborn
his mother ·Üí Primma M. Pridgen
her mother ·Üí Sarah Auta Pridgen (Pitchlyn)
her mother ·Üí Maj. John Pitchlyn
her father ·Üí Jemima Sally Hickman
his mother ·Üí William Hickman
her father ·Üí Henry Hickman
his father ·Üí Edwin Hickman
his father ·Üí Martha Hickman
his mother ·Üí Eltonhead Corbin Thacker
her mother ·Üí Edwin Conway
her father ·Üí Sir Edward Conway, 1st Viscount Conway
his father ·Üí Helen Conway
his mother ·Üí Elizabeth Willoughby, 3rd Baroness Willoughby of Broke
her mother ·Üí Margaret Gascoigne
her mother ·Üí Anne Stafford, Baroness Latimer
her mother ·Üí Catherine Stafford
her mother ·Üí Agnes Wenlock
her mother ·Üí John Danvers
her father ·Üí Agnes Danvers
his mother ·Üí Margaret de Brancestor (Mile)
her mother ·Üí Henry Mile
her father ·Üí Walter de Maule
his father ·Üí Sir Henry de Maule
his father ·Üí William de Maule
his father ·Üí Christina de Valognes, Lady of Panmure
his mother ·Üí Loretta de Quincy
her mother
https://www.geni.com/people/Loretta-de-Quincy/6000000002043244198
Loretta de Quincy
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 1180
Of, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death:
1270 (86-94)
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Saier de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, Surety for the Magna Carta and Margaret de Quincy, of Groby
Wife of William de Valoynes, Chamberlain of Scotland
Mother of Christina de Valognes, Lady of Panmure; Lora de Valognes and Isabel Cumyn
Sister of Robert "the Elder" de Quincy, of Winchester; Hawise de Quincy; John de Quincy; Orabilis de Quincy; Aliva de Quincy; Lord Robert de Quincy, Lord of Ware; Saire De Quincy; Reginald de Quincy; Beatrix Quincey and Roger de Quincy, the 2nd Earl of Winchester ¬´ less
Half sister of Eline De La Zouche
http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/qr/qzmisc01.php#linklo
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#LoretteQuincyMWiliamValoynes
SAHER [IV] de Quincy, son of ROBERT de Quincy & his first wife Orabilis of Mar ([1165/70]-Damietta 3 Nov 1219, bur Acre).¬â "·Ä¶Robertus de Quinci, Seierus de Quinci·Ä¶" were the first two lay witnesses of the charter dated 1200 which records the foundation of Inchaffray Abbey by "Gilbertus filius Ferthead·Ä¶comes de Stradern et·Ä¶Matilidis filia Willelmi de Aubengni comitissa"[34]. ¬â "·Ä¶Seier de Quinci·Ä¶" subscribed the undated charter under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey[35].¬â "Seerus de Quinci" confirmed the donation of "Davac Icthar Hathyn" made by "matris mea" to St Andrew¬¥s priory by undated charter witnessed by "·Ä¶Roberto de Quincy patre meo·Ä¶Constant et Patricio filiis Nesii avi mei·Ä¶"[36].¬â He was created Earl of Winchester before 10 Feb 1207.¬â "Seherus de Quency comes Wintonie" donated "ecclesiam de Gasc" to Inchaffray Abbey, for the souls of "patris nostri bone memorie Roberti de Quency et·Ä¶matris nostre Orable et·Ä¶Roberti de Quency primogeniti nostri et·Ä¶Margarete uxoris nostre" by charter dated to [1210/13][37]. ¬â "Seherus de Quency comes Wintonie" donated "totam terram de Duglyn", held by "Nesus filius Willelmi avus meus" to Cambuskenneth priory, with the consent of "Robert filii mei", by undated charter[38].¬â He supported the barons against King John and was one of the 25 men chosen in Jun 1215 to enforce obedience of Magna Carta, being excommunicated by the Pope in Dec 1215.¬â He went with Robert FitzWalter to invite Louis de France to England in early 1216, his lands being seized by King John as a consequence and granted to William Marshal, son of the Earl of Pembroke.¬â He returned to the allegiance of King Henry III in Sep 1217 and his lands were restored to him 29 Sep 1217.¬â "Saherus de Quinc[y] comes Wintonie" confirmed a donation of property "in territorio de Gask" to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1218][39]. ¬â "Seyerus de Quinci comes Wintonie" donated revenue from "molendino meo de Locres" to St Andrew¬¥s priory, with the consent of "Rogeri filii et heredis mei", by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Rogero de Quinci herede meo, Simone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii·Ä¶Simonis de Quinci"[40].¬â He joined the Crusade in 1219 and died at the siege of Damietta[41].¬â The necrology of Garendon abbey (Leicestershire) records that ·Äúdominus Saerus de Quyncy comes Wyntonie et Robertus filius Willielmi de Havercourt et Willielmus comes de Arundell·Äù travelled to ·ÄúTerram Sanctam·Äù in 1219 and that Saher died on the journey ·ÄúIII Nov Nov·Äù and was buried ·Äúapud Acres·Äù, his heart being burned and later buried at Garendon[42].¬â The Annals of Dunstable record that ·Äúcomes Wintoni⶷Äù took the cross in 1219 but died, adding in a later passage that he died in 1220[43].¬â The Chronicle of Ralph of Coggeshall records the death in 1220 of "Saerus de Quenci comes Wintoniensis" while on pilgrimage to Jerusalem[44].¬â Matthew Paris records the death in 1220 of ·ÄúSaerus de Quinci comes Wintoniensis·Äù[45].¬â
m (before 1190) MARGARET of Leicester, daughter of ROBERT de Beaumont Earl of Leicester & his wife Pernelle de Grantmesnil ([before 1172][46]-[12/15] Jan or 12 Feb 1235).¬â A history of the foundation of St Mary¬¥s abbey, Leicester names ·ÄúAmiciam primogenitam·Ä¶et Margaritam juniorem·Äù as the two daughters of ·ÄúRobertus·Äù and his wife ·ÄúPetronillam filiam Hugonis de Grantmenyl·Äù, adding that Margaret married ·ÄúSayero de Quincy·Äù[47].¬â "Seherus de Quency comes Wintonie" donated "ecclesiam de Gasc" to Inchaffray Abbey, for the souls of "patris nostri bone memorie Roberti de Quency et·Ä¶matris nostre Orable et·Ä¶Roberti de Quency primogeniti nostri et·Ä¶Margarete uxoris nostre" by charter dated to [1210/13][48]. ¬â The Pipe Roll 1223 records ·ÄúMargareta comitissa Wint·Äù owing ·Äúut Hawisia filia sua maritetur Hugoni f. et heredi R. de Veer comitis Oxon·Äù in Essex/Hertfordshire[49].¬â A charter of King Edward I confirmed donations to Garendon Abbey among which by ·ÄúMargareta·Ä¶comitissa Wyntoniâ¶, soror Roberti comitis Leycestri⶷Äù[50].¬â The necrology of the monastery of Ouche records the death "12 Jan" of "Margarita comitissa Wintonyâ¶"[51].¬â The necrology of Garendon abbey (Leicestershire) records the death ·ÄúXVIII Kal Feb·Äù of ·ÄúMargareta comitissa Wintonie et mater...Rogeri de Quyncy·Äù[52].¬â
Saher [IV] & his wife had [eight] children:‰
1.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ROBERT ([1187/90][53]-London 25 Apr 1217, bur Garendon).¬â "Seherus de Quency comes Wintonie" donated "ecclesiam de Gasc" to Inchaffray Abbey, for the souls of "patris nostri bone memorie Roberti de Quency et·Ä¶matris nostre Orable et·Ä¶Roberti de Quency primogeniti nostri et·Ä¶Margarete uxoris nostre" by charter dated to [1210/13][54]. ¬â The husband of Hawise of Chester was, according to the Complete Peerage, either Robert son of Robert de Quincy[55] (about whose existence there appears to be no other evidence) or Robert eldest son of Saher de Quincy Earl of Winchester[56].¬â However, the (undated) charter of Saher Earl of Winchester, relating to the grant of Bukby, Grantesset, Bradcham and Herdwick resolves the matter conclusively as it clearly states that Hawise was the wife of his eldest son Robert[57].¬â "Seherus de Quency comes Wintonie" donated "totam terram de Duglyn", held by "Nesus filius Willelmi avus meus" to Cambuskenneth priory, with the consent of "Robert filii mei", by undated charter[58].¬â Robert was excommunicated with his father in Dec 1215.¬â The Annals of Waverley record the death in 1217 of ·ÄúRobertus de Quinci, filius Seeri de Quinci·Äù[59].¬â The necrology of Garendon abbey (Leicestershire) records the death ·Äúdie Sancti Marci Evangeliste·Äù 1264 of ·Äúdominus Rogerus de Quyncy comes Wintonie filius et heres...Saeri de Quyncy et Margarete sororis Roberti comitis Leyc·Äù and his burial at Garendon[60].¬â He was accidentally poisoned through medicine prepared by a Cistercian monk[61].¬â m (before 1208) HAWISE of Chester, daughter of HUGH Earl of Chester & his wife Bertrade de Montfort ([1175/81][62]-[6 Jun 1241/3 Mar 1243).¬â The Annales Londonienses record that "Ranulphus comes Cestriâ¶" had four sisters, of whom "quarta·Ä¶Hawisia" married "Roberto de Quenci"[63].¬â Ctss of Lincoln [Apr 1231/1232] on the resignation of her brother of this earldom in her favour[64].¬â Robert & his wife had one child:¬â
a)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â MARGARET (before 1208[65]-Hampstead Mar 1266, bur Clerkenwell, Church of the Hospitallers).¬â The Annales Londonienses name "Margaretam·Ä¶comitissa Lincolniâ¶" as the daughter of "Hawisia·Ä¶de Roberto de Quency"[66].¬â The Annales Cestrienses record in 1221 that ·ÄúJohannes constabularius Cestrie·Äù married ·Äúfiliam Roberti de Quenci neptam domini Ranulphi comitis Cestrie·Äù[67].¬â A manuscript narrating the descent of Hugh Earl of Chester to Alice Ctss of Lincoln records that ·ÄúJohanni de Laci constabulario Cestri⶷Äù married ·ÄúRoberto de Quincy·Ä¶filiam Margaretam comitissam Lincolni⶷Äù[68].¬â A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that ·ÄúJohannes de Lacy primus comes Lincolni⶷Äù married ·ÄúMargaretam filiam Roberti Quincy comitis Wintoniⶠnepotem Ranulphi comitis Cestri⶷Äù after the death of his first wife[69].¬â The Annals of Tewkesbury record the marriage ·Äúcirca Epiphaniam Domini·Äù in 1241 of ·ÄúWalterus Marescallus comes·Äù and ·Äúcomitissam Lincolni⶷ĶMargeriam, uxorem quondam Johannis comitis Lincolni⶷Äù[70].¬â A charter dated 28 Jun 1248 records that "Margaret late Countess of Lincoln·Ä¶recovered her dower out of the lands in Ireland of W[alter] Marshall late Earl of Pembroke her husband" and that the dower was "taken out of the portions of the inheritance which accrued to William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, Matilda de Kyme, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king¬¥s custody, and Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife"[71].¬â A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king¬¥s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[72].¬â "Margery countess of Lincoln and Pembroke and Richard de Wilteshir and their heirs" were granted "a yearly fair at their manor of Chelebiry" dated 7 Jun 1252[73].¬â The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1266 of ·ÄúMargareta comitissa Lincolni⶷Äù[74].¬â The Annals of Winchester record the death ·Äúapud Hamstede·Äù in 1266 of ·ÄúMargareta comitissa Lyncollni⶷Äù[75].¬â m firstly (1221, before 21 Jun) as his second wife, JOHN de Lacy, son of ROGER de Lacy & his wife Maud de Clare ([1192]-22 Jul 1240, bur Stanlaw, later transferred to Whalley).¬â He was created Earl of Lincoln in 1232.¬â m secondly (6 Jan 1242) WALTER Marshal Earl of Pembroke, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel Ctss of Pembroke (after 1198-1245).¬â m thirdly (before 7 Jun 1252) RICHARD de Wiltshire, son of ---.¬â
2.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ROGER de Quincy (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley]).¬â "Seyerus de Quinci comes Wintonie" donated revenue from "molendino meo de Locres" to St Andrew¬¥s priory, with the consent of "Rogeri filii et heredis mei", by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Rogero de Quinci herede meo, Simone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii·Ä¶Simonis de Quinci"[76].¬â "Rogerus de Quinci filius Seyeri comitis Wintonie" confirmed his father¬¥s donation of a mill to St Andrew¬¥s priory by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Dâ±o Seyero patre meo comite Wintonie, Symone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii·Ä¶Gilleberto clerico, Symonis de Quinci, Henrico clerico, Symonis de Quinci"[77].¬â He succeeded his father in 1219 as Earl of Winchester, but was not recognised as such until after his mother's death[78].¬â "Rogerius de Quinci" confirmed donations of land "in territorio de Gasc", where the men of "domini patris mei comitis Wintonie" pastured animals, to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], witnessed by "Gilberto comite de Stratherne, Roberto et Fergus filiis suis·Ä¶"[79]. ¬â He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris.¬â "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[80].¬â "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et·Ä¶Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[81].¬â John of Fordun¬¥s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death in 1264 of "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wincestriâ¶"[82].¬â An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that he died "on the day of St Mark the Evangelist" and names "Henry de Lascy aged 14 on the day of the Epiphany next, is his heir"[83].¬â Another writ dated 2 Nov "55 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency alias de Quinsy sometime earl of Winchester", records further details about his landholdings[84].¬â His earldom reverted to the crown on his death.¬â m firstly ([before 1223]) ELLEN of Galloway, daughter of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his first wife --- de Lacy ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley).¬â The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[85].¬â Earl Roger's first marriage with the daughter of Alan of Galloway is recorded by Matthew Paris[86].¬â The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniâ¶"[87].¬â The identity of Ellen·Äôs mother as her father·Äôs first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan·Äôs first wife as shown above)[88].¬â Ellen·Äôs birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage.¬â "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[89].¬â "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[90].¬â m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as her second husband, MATILDA de Bohun, widow of ANSELM Marshal Earl of Pembroke, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Mathilde de Lusignan (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley80).¬â A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall·Ä¶[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm¬¥s lands"[91].¬â Her death is recorded by Matthew Paris, who states that she was daughter of the Earl of Hereford but does not give her own name, that she was her husband's second wife[92].¬â m thirdly (before 5 Dec 1252) as her second husband, ELEANOR Ferrers, widow of WILLIAM de Vaux, daughter of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his first wife Sibyl Marshal of Pembroke (-before 20 Oct 1274, bur Leeds Priory).¬â The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha" as the seven daughters of "Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiâ¶" and his wife "quarta filia·Ä¶Willihelmi Marescalli·Ä¶Sibilla", adding that "Alianora sexta filia" was "comitissa de Wintonia" and died childless[93].¬â A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king¬¥s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[94].¬â Her second marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Ireland which record that ·ÄúSibilla comitissa de Ferreys·Äù had seven daughters (in order) ·Äúquinta, Elianora de Varis, quⶠfuit uxor comitis Wintonie·Ä¶·Äù[95].¬â Matthew Paris records her husband's remarriage soon after the death of his second wife, but does not name his third wife[96].¬â "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et·Ä¶Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[97].¬â She married thirdly (1267) as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn.¬â King Edward I ordered the the escheator of Ireland to take all the lands of the deceased "Alianora widow of Roger de Quency earl of Winchester" into the hands of the king by charter dated 25 Oct 1274[98].¬â Earl Roger & his first wife had three children:
a)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ MARGARET de Quincy‰ ([before 1223]-before 12 Mar 1281).‰ The Annales Londonienses name "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as the three daughters of "Eleyn countesse de Wynton"[99].‰ A charter dated 3 Dec 1274 records the homage of "Margaret de Ferariis countess of Derby, eldest daughter and one of the heirs of Roger de Quency earl of Wynton" for her part of the lands "lately held in dower by Alianora de Vaux late countess of Wynton widow of the said Roger"[100].‰ Inquisitions after a writ "9 Edw I" following the death 15 Apr of "Margaret de Ferrariis countess of Derbeye" name her son လWilliam de Ferrariis...ဝ[101].‰ m ([1238]) as his second wife, WILLIAM de Ferrers, son of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his wife Agnes of Chester (-May 1254, bur Merevale Abbey).‰ He succeeded his father in 1247 as Earl of Derby.‰
b)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ELLEN de Quincy‰ (-before 20 Aug 1296).‰ The Annales Londonienses name "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as the three daughters of "Eleyn countesse de Wynton", naming "Roger la Zusche" as son of "Eleyne la Zusche" and "de Roger, Aleyn"[102].‰ A charter dated 3 Dec 1274 records the homage of "Elena la Zusche another daughter and heir of Roger [de Quency earl of Wynton]" for her part of the lands "lately held in dower by Alianora de Vaux late countess of Wynton widow of the said Roger"[103].‰ Inquisitions after a writ 20 Aug "24 Edw I", following the death of "Elena la Zousche...", name လAlan la Suches [...son of Sir Roger de la Suche] aged 24 [...and more...aged 28 at the feast of St. Giles last] is her next heirဝ and record လOliver la Suchesဝ doing the service of 1 knight in Disard, Strahon and Lokeris, Fifeshire[104].‰ m ALAN [II] la Zouche [Justiciar of Ireland], son of ROGER [I] la Zouche & his wife Margaret --- (-killed in battle London 10 Aug 1270). ‰
c)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ELIZABETH de Quincy .‰ The Annales Londonienses name "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as the three daughters of "Eleyn countesse de Wynton"[105].‰ A charter dated 3 Dec 1274 records the partition of the lands "lately held in dower by Alianora de Vaux late countess of Wynton widow of the said Roger" agreed by "Alexander Comyn earl of Buchan and Elizabeth his wife the third daughter of Roger [de Quency earl of Wynton]" for her part of the lands[106].‰ m ALEXANDER Comyn Earl of Buchan, son of WILLIAM Comyn Earl of Buchan & his wife Margaret Ctss of Buchan (-before 6 Apr 1290).‰ ‰
3.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ HAWISE ([1200/12]-3 Feb after 1263, bur Earl's Colne).‰ "Margaret countess of Winchester" made a fine for the marriage of "Hawise her daughterဦto Hugh, son and heir of R. de Vere, formerly earl of Oxford", dated [Feb] 1223[107].‰ Her birth date range is estimated based on her having given birth to her son in [1240], although it seems unlikely that she would have been much older than her husband.‰ The Pipe Roll 1223 records လMargareta comitissa Wintဝ owing လut Hawisia filia sua maritetur Hugoni f. et heredi R. de Veer comitis Oxonဝ in Essex/Hertfordshire[108].‰ m (after 11 Feb 1223) HUGH de Vere Earl of Oxford, son of ROBERT de Vere Earl of Oxford & his wife Isabel de Bolebec ([1210]-before 23 Dec 1263, bur Earl's Colne).‰
4.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ LORETA de Quincy .‰ The Complete Peerage names လLorette m William de Valoynes of Panmure, co. Forfar, chamberlain of Scotlandဝ as sister of Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester but does not cite the corresponding source[109].‰ The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.‰ ‰ m WILLIAM de Valoignes of Panmure, co. Forfar, Chamberlain of Scotland, son of PHILIP de Valoignes & his first wife --- (-1219).‰
5.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [--- de Quincy .‰ Her parentage and marriage are suggested by the order dated 3 Feb 1223 under which King Henry III delivered "to Roger de Quency...the ward of the land of Sibilla de Valeines in Torpenno...the custody of which pertains to Roger by reason of Eustace de Stuteville, son and heir of said Sibilla, being in ward of Rogerဝ[110].‰ Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester was the brother of Loreta, wife of William de Valoignes (see above), who was the older brother of Sibylla.‰ However, that relationship would not have justified Rogerမs wardship of Sibyllaမs minor son after she died.‰ Many examples have been noted of a father marrying, as his second wife, the sister of the wife of his son and this may be another such case.‰ m as his second wife, PHILIP de Valoignes, son of son of ROGER de Valognes & his wife Agnes --- (-5 Nov 1215, bur Melrose Abbey).]‰
6.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ROBERT ([1217/19]-Aug 1257).¬â The Complete Peerage names him as younger brother of Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester but does not cite the corresponding source[111].¬â The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.¬â ¬â He is named ·ÄúRoberto [de Quinci]·Äù in the Annals of Dunstable when recording his marriage[112].¬â His birth date range is suggested on the assumption that he was born after the death of his older brother also called Robert, although his mother would have been over 45 years old at the time.¬â m (1237 before 5 Dec) as her second husband, HELEN of Wales, widow of JOHN "the Scot" Earl of Huntingdon and Chester, daughter of LLYWELLYN ap Iorwerth Fawr ("the Great") Prince of Wales & his second/third wife Joan [illegitimate daughter of John King of England] (-1253 before 24 Oct).¬â The Annals of Dunstable record that ·ÄúJohannes comes Cestri⶷Äù died in 1237 and ·Äúeius uxor·Ä¶filia Lewelini·Äù married ·ÄúRoberto [de Quinci]·Äù against her father¬¥s wishes[113].¬â A writ after the death of "Eleanor, sometime the wife of John Earl of Chester", dated "the eve of St Martin 38 Hen III", records the "partition of her lands between Si J. de Bayllol, Robert de Brus, and Henry de Hasting, the heirs of the said earl"[114].¬â Robert & his wife had three children:¬â
a)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ANNE .‰ The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.‰ ‰ A nun.‰
b)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ JOAN de Quincy (-25 Nov 1284).‰ An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that "Joan, wife of Humphrey de Boum the younger of full age, and Hawis, within age, daughters of the late Robert de Quency" were his heirs in the manor of "Styventon alias Steventon [Bedford]"[115].‰ A writ dated 15 Dec "12 Edw I", after the death of "Joan late the wife of Humphrey de Boun alias de Bohun", records that she died "on Thursday the feast of St Katherine 12 Edw I" and that "Hawis her sister, late the wife of Baldwin Wake, is her next heir and of full age"[116].‰ m as his second wife, HUMPHREY [VI] de Bohun, son of HUMPHREY [V] de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his first wife Maud de Lusignan (-Beeston Castle, Cheshire 27 Oct 1265, bur Combermere Abbey).‰
c)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ HAWISE ([1250]-before 27 Mar 1285).‰ An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that "Joan, wife of Humphrey de Boum the younger of full age, and Hawis, within age, daughters of the late Robert de Quency" were his heirs in the manor of "Styventon alias Steventon [Bedford]"[117].‰ A writ dated 15 Dec "12 Edw I", after the death of "Joan late the wife of Humphrey de Boun alias de Bohun", records that she died "on Thursday the feast of St Katherine 12 Edw I" and that "Hawis her sister, late the wife of Baldwin Wake, is her next heir and of full age"[118].‰ m (before 5 Feb 1268) as his second wife, BALDWIN Wake, son of HUGH Wake & his wife Joan de Stuteville ([1237/38]-before 10 Feb 1282).‰
7.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ JOHN .‰ He is named in the Brackley charters[119].‰ His position in the order of birth of his siblings is unknown, but he may have been older than his brother Robert (the younger) if the speculation about the latter's date of birth (see above) is correct.‰
8.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ORABILIS .‰ A manuscript relating to Ranton Priory, Staffordshire records that လRicardo de Harecourtဝ married လOrabillam sororem Rogeri de Quinciဝ, and lists their descendants[120].‰ m RICHARD [I] de Harcourt, son of WILLIAM [I] de Harcourt & his wife Alice Noel.‰
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