Kind(eren):
Hawise de Grey is your 24th great grandmother.
You
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Calhoun H. Welborn
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Elizabeth Welborn
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Benjamin Franklin Dykes
her father‰ ᆒ‰ William Dykes, Sr.
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Unity Dykes Gunby
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ James Bounds
her father‰ ᆒ‰ John Bounds, I
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Jonas Bond
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Philip Bond
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Thomas Bond
his father‰ ᆒ‰ John Thomas Bond
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Walter Bond
his father‰ ᆒ‰ William Bond
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir John Bond, of Buckland
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Robert III de Bond of Lutton
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Catherine Bond
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Jane Lutton
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Maud de Grey
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Sir John de Grey, Jr., 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir John de Grey, Sr., 1st Baron of Rotherfield
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Robert de Grey, of Rotherfield
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Walter de Grey, of Rotherfield
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Robert de Grey, of Rotherfield
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Hawise de Grey
his mother
Hawise de Grey is your 23rd great grandmother.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn‰
your father‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Calhoun H Welborn‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Elizabeth Welborn‰
his mother‰ ᆒBenjamin Franklin Dykes‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ William Dykes, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Unity Dykes Gunby‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ James Bounds‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ John Bounds, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒJonas Bond‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Philip Bond‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Thomas Bond‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ John Bond‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Walter Bond‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ John Bond, of Buckland‰
his father‰ ᆒSir Robert of Lutton III de Bond De Earth‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Catherine Bond‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Jane Lutton‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Maud de Grey‰
her mother‰ ᆒSir John de Grey, Jr., 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir John de Grey, Sr., 1st Baron of Rotherfield‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Robert de Grey, of Rotherfield‰
his fatherᆒ‰ Sir Walter de Grey, of Rotherfield‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Robert de Grey, of Rotherfield‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Hawise de Grey‰
his mother
https://www.geni.com/people/Hawise-de-Grey/6000000003210321109
Hawise de Grey
Gender:
Female
Birth:
between circa 1150 and circa 1160‰
England, United Kingdom
Death:
between circa 1215 and circa 1240‰ (47-98)‰
England
Immediate Family:
Daughter of‰ Richard de Grey‰ and‰ wife of Richard de Grey‰
Wife of‰ (Unknown)‰
Mother of‰ Sir Robert de Grey, of Rotherfield;‰ Walter de Grey, Archbishop of York‰ and‰ Roesia de Grey‰
Sister of‰ John de Grey, Bishop of Norwich‰
Parentage uncertain; Hawise and John have been placed under William (as grandfather) by process of elimination.
Hawisia de Grey vidua, pro animabus omnium antecessorum et consanguineorum, et precipue pro anima Johannis de Grey fratris mei quondam Norwicensis Episcopi, assensu Dni. Roberti de Grey filij et heredis mei, concessi et quantum ad patronam pertinet dedi Deo et Sce. Marie de Oseney et canonicis ibidem Deo servientibus ecclesiam de Cornewell ad donationem meam pertinentem in puram et perpetuam eleemosinam. Testibus Dno. Waltero de Grey, Wygorniensi Episcopus filio meo, &c.' [Blomefield, Norfok I:478, cites 'Mss. penes P. L. Norroy, p. 15, excerpt. e Cartis per Ric. St. George.']
Hawise de Grey widow, for the souls of all my ancestors and relatives, and [especially?] for the soul of John de Grey my brother, former Bishop of Norwich, with the assent of (Sir?) Robert de Grey my son and heir, give and donate [specified property to specified religious organizations - the Latin is a little dense here]. In witness [Right Reverend] Walter de Grey, Bishop of Worcester, my son.
The charter dates fairly precisely to 1215 - her brother John is deceased, but her son Walter is not yet Archbishop of York.
There has been some speculation on soc.genealogy.medieval that her husband was a John FitzAlan - this was before the FitzAlans had achieved *quite* as much importance as they would later.
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Hawise de Grey sister of John de Grey (too old to reply) Simon Fairthorne via about a year ago Permalink Raw Message Report Have just found the following on the KCL Henry III Fine Rolls site
19 Sept. Rotherfield Greys. Concerning the lands of Hawise, who was the wife of John fitz Alan. Order to J. Lestrange, justice of Chester, to take into the king's hand all lands formerly of Hawise, who was the wife of John fitz Alan , which she held in dower in his bailiwick, unless he has previously taken them into the king's hand, and he is to keep them safely so that he answers for them at the Exchequer together with the other lands formerly of the same John that are in her custody. Witness W. archbishop of York.
Seems to me that this gives the father of Walter Archbishop of York which was one of the gaps in the discussion in December 2010 with John P Ravilious, John Watson and others
Am I right in this - for me this is unfamiliar territory
Regards
Simon
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On the other hand, this may refer to Hawise de Blancminster (?-c. 1242), second wife of John FitzAlan of Clun & Oswestry (?-c. 1240).
Parentage uncertain; Hawise and John have been placed under William (as grandfather) by process of elimination.
Hawisia de Grey vidua, pro animabus omnium antecessorum et consanguineorum, et precipue pro anima Johannis de Grey fratris mei quondam Norwicensis Episcopi, assensu Dni. Roberti de Grey filij et heredis mei, concessi et quantum ad patronam pertinet dedi Deo et Sce. Marie de Oseney et canonicis ibidem Deo servientibus ecclesiam de Cornewell ad donationem meam pertinentem in puram et perpetuam eleemosinam. Testibus Dno. Waltero de Grey, Wygorniensi Episcopus filio meo, &c.' [Blomefield, Norfok I:478, cites 'Mss. penes P. L. Norroy, p. 15, excerpt. e Cartis per Ric. St. George.']
Hawise de Grey widow, for the souls of all my ancestors and relatives, and [especially?] for the soul of John de Grey my brother, former Bishop of Norwich, with the assent of (Sir?) Robert de Grey my son and heir, give and donate [specified property to specified religious organizations - the Latin is a little dense here]. In witness [Right Reverend] Walter de Grey, Bishop of Worcester, my son.
The charter dates fairly precisely to 1215 - her brother John is deceased, but her son Walter is not yet Archbishop of York.
There has been some speculation on soc.genealogy.medieval that her husband was a John FitzAlan - this was before the FitzAlans had achieved *quite* as much importance as they would later.
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Hawise de Grey sister of John de Grey (too old to reply) Simon Fairthorne via about a year ago Permalink Raw Message Report Have just found the following on the KCL Henry III Fine Rolls site
19 Sept. Rotherfield Greys. Concerning the lands of Hawise, who was the wife of John fitz Alan. Order to J. Lestrange, justice of Chester, to take into the king's hand all lands formerly of Hawise, who was the wife of John fitz Alan , which she held in dower in his bailiwick, unless he has previously taken them into the king's hand, and he is to keep them safely so that he answers for them at the Exchequer together with the other lands formerly of the same John that are in her custody. Witness W. archbishop of York.
Seems to me that this gives the father of Walter Archbishop of York which was one of the gaps in the discussion in December 2010 with John P Ravilious, John Watson and others
Am I right in this - for me this is unfamiliar territory
Regards
Simon
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On the other hand, this may refer to Hawise de Blancminster (?-c. 1242), second wife of John FitzAlan of Clun & Oswestry (?-c. 1240).
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