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• Zij is geboren voor 1230 in Aberconway, Carnarvonshire, Wales.
• Zij is overleden na februari 1295 in Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
• Een kind van Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf ap Gruffudd ap Gruffyd
• Een kind van Llewelyn Fawr ab Iorwerth en Multiple Unidentified Mistresses Unidentified Mistresses
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 11 september 2022.

Gezin van Elena ferch Llywelyn

Zij is getrouwd met Donald Domhnall I mac Uilleim de Mar.

Zij zijn getrouwd

Kind(eren):

1. Gartnait of Mar MacDomhnaill mac Domhnaill  ± 1272-1305 
2. Margaret of Mar  ± 1280-± 1326 
3. Isabella nic Domhnaill, of Mar  ± 1277-± 1296 

Notities over Elena ferch Llywelyn

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Elen ferch Llywelyn is your 22nd great grandmother.
You ¬â€  ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Emma Corine Welborn (Bombard)
his mother ·Üí Emma Elizabeth Free / Bombard
her mother ·Üí Isabelle Bynum
her mother ·Üí Robert W Bynum
her father ·Üí Elizabeth Bynum
his mother ·Üí Lydia Mitchell
her mother ·Üí Jonathan Wheeler, I
her father ·Üí Martha Wheeler (Salisbury)
his mother ·Üí William Salisbury
her father ·Üí William Salisbury, of Denbigh & Swansea
his father ·Üí John Salisbury, of Denbigh
his father ·Üí Lady Ursula Salusbury
his mother ·Üí Jane Halsall, of Knowsley
her mother ·Üí Jane Osbaldeston
her mother ·Üí Elizabeth Beaumont
her mother ·Üí Sir John Harington, of Hornby
her father ·Üí Elizabeth Harrington
his mother ·Üí Thomas Dacre, 6th Baron Dacre
her father ·Üí Joan Dacre
his mother ·Üí Margaret of Mar, Countess of Mar
her mother ·Üí Domhnall II, Earl of Mar
her father ·Üí Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar <<<
his father ·Üí Elen ferch Llywelyn
his mother

Elen ferch Llywelyn is your 24th great grandmother.
You¬â€  ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Francis "Fannie" Pernerviane Welborn
his mother ·Üí Primma M. Davis
her mother ·Üí Sarah Autra Pridgen
her mother ·Üí Maj. John Pitchlyn
her father ·Üí Jemima Sally Hickman
his mother ·Üí William Hickman
her father ·Üí Henry Hickman
his father ·Üí Edwin Hickman
his father ·Üí Martha Hickman
his mother ·Üí Eltonhead Corbin Thacker
her mother ·Üí Edwin Conway
her father ·Üí Sir Edward Conway, 1st Viscount Conway
his father ·Üí Sir John Conway
his father ·Üí Catherine Conway
his mother ·Üí Anne Verney
her mother ·Üí Edmund Weston
her father ·Üí Margaret Weston
his mother ·Üí Sir John Mitford, Kt.
her father ·Üí Margery Mitford
his mother ·Üí Maria de Lisle
her mother ·Üí Sir Aymer Atholl of Strathbogie
her father ·Üí David II of Strathbogie, Mórmaer of Atholl
his father ·Üí Margaret of Mar, Lady Sutherland (4th) <<<
his mother ·Üí Elen ferch Llywelyn
her mother

·Äî=========·Äî Maternal ·Äî·Äî========·Äî
Elen ferch Llywelyn is your 23rd great grandmother.
You ¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith Sr.
her father ·Üí Edgar Jackson Smith (Edgar Jackson Smith)
his father ·Üí Margaret Jane Smith (Houser)
his mother ·Üí Susannah Houser (Moore)
her mother ·Üí Sarah ·ÄúSally·Äù Moore (Jones)
her mother ·Üí Eleanor Penelope Jones (Brooks)
her mother ·Üí Brambly Wade Bennett
her mother ·Üí James Bennett II
her father ·Üí James Bennett, Sr.
his father ·Üí Anne Bennett (Barham)
his mother ·Üí Katherine Barham (Filmer)
her mother ·Üí Dame Elizabeth Filmer (Argall)
her mother ·Üí Mary Washington (Scott)
her mother ·Üí Sir Reginald Scot, of Scot's Hall and Nettlested
her father ·Üí Sir John (Sir) Scott, Sr., High Sheriff of Kent
his father ·Üí Sybilla Scott (Lewknor), Heiress, Barony of Bircholt
his mother ·Üí Johanna Lewknor (Halsham)
her mother ·Üí Richard Halsham
her father ·Üí Philippa de Strathbogie, of Atholl
his mother ·Üí David IV Strathbogie of Atholl, 13th Earl Of Atholl
her father ·Üí David III of Strathbogie, Mórmaer of Atholl
his father ·Üí David II of Strathbogie, Mórmaer of Atholl
his father ·Üí Margaret of Mar, lady Sutherland <<<
his mother ·Üí Elen ferch Llywelyn
her mother

Elen ferch Llywelyn is your 25th great grandmother.
You¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
her father ·Üí Britton Lee
his father ·Üí William Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Lemuel Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Edward Lee, Sr.
his father ·Üí Mary Bryan
his mother ·Üí William Bryan, I
her father ·Üí John Smith Bryan
his father ·Üí Catherine Bryan (Morgan)
his mother ·Üí Catherine Morgan
her mother ·Üí Nicholas Herbert
her father ·Üí Mathew Herbert
his father ·Üí Elizabeth Herbert
his mother ·Üí Elizabeth Berkeley (de Neville)
her mother ·Üí Margaret Fenne, Baroness Abergavenny
her mother ·Üí Phillipa Fiennes
her mother ·Üí Sir Thomas Dacre, Kt.
her father ·Üí Thomas Dacre, 6th Baron Dacre
his father ·Üí Joan Douglas, of Mar
his mother ·Üí James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas and Mar
her father ·Üí Margaret of Mar, Countess of Mar
his mother ·Üí Domhnall II, Earl of Mar
her father ·Üí Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar <<<
his father ·Üí Elen ferch Llywelyn
his mother

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Elen ferch Llywelyn
Gender:
Female
Birth:
before 1230
Aberconway, Carnarvonshire, Wales
Death:
after February 1295
Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Llewelyn Fawr ab Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd and Multiple Unidentified Mistresses
Wife of Malcolm Mac Duff, Mórmaer of Fife and Donald de Mar, 6th Earl of Mar
Mother of Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar; Margaret of Mar, Lady Sutherland (4th); Alexander de Mar; Isabella of Mar; Margaret of Mar, Lady Lennox; Colbran Mac Duff; Gemail (de Mar); Duncan (de Mar) and Domhnall Og of Mar ¬´ less
Sister of Gwenllian verch Llewelyn; Gwladys "Ddu" verch Llewelyn; Angharad verch Llewelyn and N.N. verch Llewelyn
Half sister of Tegwared Y Bais Wen ap Llewelyn Fawr; Gruffydd ap Llywelyn Fawr; Margred verch Llewelyn; Susanna verch Llewelyn; Dafydd ap Llewelyn, Prince of North Wales and Gwynedd; and Helen verch Llewelyn, the Elder ¬´ less

Helen or Elen, illegitimate daughter of Llewellyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales, widow of Malcolm, Earl of Fife.
from Wikipedia
Domhnall I Earl of Mar - Domhnall mac Uilleim (Donald, William's son) - was the seventh known Mormaer of Mar, ruling from 1276 until his death somewhere between 1297 and 1302.
Domhnall was a strong supporter of the Bruce cause during the crisis of the late 13th century. He was at Norham in 1292, probably in the camp of Robert de Brus, then Earl of Carrick.
He was married to Helen (sometimes called Ellen), possibly the natural daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Wales, who herself had previously been married to Mormaer Maol Choluim II, Earl of Fife.
By Helen, he had three sons, including his successor Gartnait, and two daughters.
His daughter Isabella of Mar was the first wife of Robert I of Scotland and mother of Marjorie Bruce who married Walter 6th High Steward, the parents of Robert II and the Royal Stewart Kings of Scotland.
References
Barrow, G. W. S. (1988). Robert Bruce and the Community of the Realm of Scotland (3rd ed. ed.). Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press. ISBN 0-85224-539-4.
notes
Helen ferch Llywelyn1 From the peerage.com Last Edited=28 Dec 2011
died after February 1294/95
daughter of Daffyd ap Llywelyn, Prince of North Wales and Isabella de Braose.1,2
She married
firstly, Malcolm MacDuff, 5th Earl of Fife before 1266.1
secondly, Donald, 6th Earl of Mar, son of William, 5th Earl of Mar and Elizabeth Comyn, after 1266.1 As a result of her marriage, Helen ferch Llywelyn was styled as Countess of Mar on 25 July 1281.
Children of Helen ferch Llywelyn and Donald, 6th Earl of Mar
Duncan of Mar3
Alexander of Mar3
Isabella of Mar+4 d. b 1302
Margaret of Mar+5
Gartnait, 7th Earl of Mar+3 d. b Sep 1305
Citations
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VIII, page 403. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
[S130] Wikipedia, online http;//www.wikipedia.org. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
[S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 2603. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 209. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 306.
however
The mother of Isabella of Mar is said to have been Helen, widow of Malcolm (or Maol Choluim) Macduff Earl of Fife (possibly Helen verch Llywelyn, but FMG casts doubts on the certainty of this assertion, d. after 16 February 1295)
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Scotland, Mormaers, Earls, Lords:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#IsabelMarMR...
DONALD, son of WILLIAM Earl of Mar & his first wife Elizabeth Comyn of Buchan (-after 25 Jul 1297).
"Willelmus comes de Mar" confirmed the donations of "ecclesiam de Taruelondဦde Migueth" made by "dñs Morgrundus avus nosterဦdña Agnes avia nostra quondam comitissa de Mar" to St Andrew´s priory by charter dated 23 Jan 1267 witnessed by "ဦDouenaldo Duncano filiis eiusdem comitisဦ"[452]. John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Dovenaldus filius Willelmi comitis de Mar" was knighted "die Sancti Michaelis apud Sconam" in 1270[453].
He succeeded his father as Earl of Mar. Donald Earl of Mar agreed the marriage of Margaret Pss of Scotland to Erik of Norway, dated 25 Jul 1281[454].
He swore fealty to Edward I King of England as his overlord 13 Jun 1291, but was active in the Scottish revolt against England. He was taken prisoner at the battle of Dunbar 27 Apr 1296, but did homage to the English king after the submission of John Balliol in Jul 1296[455].
m (after 1266) as her second husband, HELEN, widow of MALCOLM Macduff Earl of Fife, daughter of --- (-after 16 Feb 1295).
The second marriage of the widow of Malcolm Earl of Fife is confirmed by the documents under which "Elenæ comitissæ de Marre" accounted for payment of "xl s pro parte dotis suæ" in the accounts of lands formerly belonging to Duncan Earl of Fife 20 Nov 1293 and 16 Feb 1294[456].
However, it is not certain that this widow of Earl Malcolm was the same person as his wife who was the daughter of Prince Llywelyn.
The birth of Earl Malcolm´s son Colban is estimated to [1244/46]. However, Earl Malcolm´s widow had four known children by her second husband. This would mean that she gave birth to children over an approximately thirty year span, which although not impossible would be unusual. In addition, it seems unlikely that Earl Donald would have married, as his first marriage, a woman who would have been more than 35 years old.
Earl Donald & his wife had [five] children:
1. GRATNEY (-before Sep 1305).
He succeeded his father in 1297 as Earl of Mar.
m (1292 or after) as her first husband, CHRISTIAN Bruce, daughter of ROBERT Bruce Earl of Carrick & his first wife Margaret Ctss of Carrick (-[1356/27 Jan 1357], bur Dunfermline). John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Robertum comitem de Carricဦfiliaဦseniore" married "Garthenai comiti de Marria"[457]. She married secondly Sir Christopher Seton, and thirdly (dispensation 20 Sep 1326, Cambuskenneth 1326) Sir Andrew Moray of Bothwell. John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage of "Andreas de Moravia" and "dominam Christianam sororemဦregis" at Cambuskenneth in 1326[458]. The Papal dispensation for the marriage of "Andree de Moravia domino de Bothvile" and "Cristiane de Setono nate quondam Robert de Bruys", issued by Pope John XXII, is dated 20 Sep 1326[459]. The same source records the death in 1357 of "the Lady Christiana of Bruce, King Robert´s sister" and her burial "at Dunfermline with her parents"[460].
Earl Gratney & his wife had --- children: Donald (killed in the Battle of Duplin 12 August 1332), and Ellen of Mar (m. John de Menteith of Strathgartney and Arran who d. before 1344)
2. DUNCAN (-after Aug 1296).
The Ragman Roll names "ဦDuncan fiz le Comte de Marဦ" among those who swore allegiance to Edward I King of England at Berwick-upon-Tweed 28 Aug 1296[467].
---
3. ISABEL of Mar (-before 1302).
John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Robertusဦrex, quuando fuit comes de Carric" married "Isabellam sororem Garthenai comitis de Marr"[468].
m ([1295]) as his first wife, ROBERT Bruce Earl of Carrick, son of Sir ROBERT de Brus, Earl of Carrick, Lord of Annandale & his first wife Margaret Ctss of Carrick (Writtle, near Chelmsford, Essex 11 Jul 1274-Cardross Castle, Dumbartonshire 7 Jun 1329, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife).
He succeeded in 1306 as ROBERT I King of Scotland.
---
4. MARGARET of Mar (-after 1306).
A charter dated 3 Sep 1296 records petitions to King Edward I by women whose estates had been seized in Scotland, including an order of restoration of property to "la contesse de Atheles"[469]. "Gilbertus de Haia constabularius Scotie" confirmed donations to Cupar abbey, including the donation made by "Mariore comitisse Atholie, relicte quondam Johannis comitis Atholie et confirmatione David filii sui primogeniti et heredis", by charter dated 5 Oct 1309[470].
m JOHN of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl, son of DAVID of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl & his second wife Isabel of Chilham (-executed London 7 Nov 1306).
5. [MARGARET of Mar .
She is named as wife of Malcolm Earl of Lennox by Fraser[471]. She may have been the daughter or the sister of Donald Earl of Mar.
m MALCOLM Earl of Lennox, son of MALCOLM Earl of Lennox & his wife --- (-killed in battle Halidon Hill 19 Jul 1333).]
References:
[452] St Andrew´s Priory, p. 311.
[453] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXVIII, p. 113.
[454] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, Mar, p. 577, citing Acta Parliamenta Scotorum, I, p. 423 [not yet consulted].
[455] CP VIII 402-3.
[456] Stevenson (1870), Vol. I, pp. 410 and 414.
[457] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. XI, Cap. XIII, p. 150.
[458] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. XIII, Cap. XII, p. 287.
[459] Stuart (1798), p. 429.
[460] John of Fordun (Skene), Annals, CLXXVIII, p. 366.
[467] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 823, p. 200.
[468] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. XI, Cap. XIII, p. 150.
[469] Stephenson, J. (ed.) (1870) Documents illustrative of the History of Scotland from the death of King Alexander the Third to the accession of Robert Bruce 1286-1306 (Edinburgh), Vol. II, CCCLXXXV, p. 92.
[470] Cupar, Vol. II, Appendix, II, 5, p. 286.
[471] Fraser, Sir. W. (1874) The Lennox, Vol. I, p. 240 (not yet consulted), cited in CP VII 591.
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