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Persoonlijke gegevens Marjorie Menteith de Huntingdon 

• Zij is geboren in het jaar 1152 in Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England.
• Zij is overleden in het jaar 1213 in Forfar, Angusshire, Scotland, zij was toen 61 jaar oud.
• Een kind van Henry of le Scot (of Scotland) (of Huntingdon) en Ada de Warenne
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 27 maart 2018.

Gezin van Marjorie Menteith de Huntingdon

Zij is getrouwd met Gille Críst mac Gille Brigte.

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Notities over Marjorie Menteith de Huntingdon


Marjorie of Huntingdon is your 27th great grandmother.
You¬â€ 
¬â€ ¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Geneva Allene Welborn¬â€ 
your mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Edith Lucinda Smith¬â€ 
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ William M LEE, Will¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Britton Lee¬â€ 
his father·Üí¬â€ William Samuel Lee¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Lemuel Samuel Lee¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Edward Lee, I¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Mary Lee¬â€ 
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ William Bryan, I¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·ÜíJohn Smith Bryan, of Nansemond¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Catherine Bryan (Morgan)¬â€ 
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Catherine Morgan¬â€ 
her mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Nicholas Herbert¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Mary Gamage¬â€ 
his mother·Üí¬â€ Margaret St. John¬â€ 
her mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sir John Saint John of Bletsoe & Lord Beauchamp¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sir John de St. John, K.B.¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·ÜíSir Oliver St. John of Bletsoe¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sir John de St. John, Knight of Faumore¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sir Oliver St. John¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sir John St. John, Knight¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·ÜíElizabeth de Umfreville, Lady¬â€ 
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sir Henry de Umfraville¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ John (Umfraville) de Umfraville¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·ÜíMaud (Matilda) de Angus, Countess of Angus¬â€ 
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ M√°el Coluim mac Donnchadh, 5th Earl of Angus¬â€ 
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Duncan, 5th Earl of Angus¬â€ 
his father¬â€ ·ÜíMarjorie of Huntingdon¬â€ 
his mother

Marjorie of Huntingdon is your 28th great grandmother.
You
¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
her father ·Üí Britton Lee
his father ·Üí William Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Lemuel Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Edward Lee, Sr.
his father ·Üí Mary Bryan
his mother ·Üí William Bryan, I
her father ·Üí John Smith Bryan
his father ·Üí Catherine Bryan (Morgan)
his mother ·Üí Catherine Morgan
her mother ·Üí Nicholas Herbert
her father ·Üí Mathew Herbert
his father ·Üí Elizabeth Herbert
his mother ·Üí Elizabeth Berkeley (de Neville)
her mother ·Üí Margaret Fenne, Baroness Abergavenny
her mother ·Üí Phillipa Fiennes
her mother ·Üí Sir Thomas Dacre, Kt.
her father ·Üí Thomas Dacre, 6th Baron Dacre
his father ·Üí Joan Douglas, of Mar
his mother ·Üí James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas and Mar
her father ·Üí Margaret of Mar, Countess of Mar
his mother ·Üí Isabella Stewart of Bonkill
her mother ·Üí Sir Alexander Stewart of Bonkyll
her father ·Üí John Stewart of Bonkyl and Garlies
his father ·Üí Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
his father ·Üí Bethóc (Beatrix) nic Gille Crist, Countess of Angus
his mother ·Üí Marjorie of Huntingdon
her mother

https://www.geni.com/people/Marjorie-of-Huntingdon/364419714070007641

Marjorie Menteith (de Huntingdon)
Gender:
Female
Birth:
1152
Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England
Death:
1213 (61)
Forfar, Angusshire, Scotland
Place of Burial:
Sawtry Abbey, Sawtry, Huntingdon, England
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Henry, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon and Ada de Warenne, Countess of Huntingdon
Wife of John Lindsay and Gille Crist, Earl of Angus
Mother of Alicia Lindsay; Duncan, 5th Earl of Angus; Bethóc (Beatrix) nic Gille Crist, Countess of Angus and William or Gilbert Eryvine
Sister of M√°el Coluim mac Eanric, IV; William "The Lion", King of Scots; Margaret de Huntingdon, Princess of Scotland; Aufrica de Huntingdon; Ada de Huntingdon, Countess of Holland; Princess of Scotland Matilda of Scotland, Princess; David Huntingdon, 8th Earl of Huntingdon and Princess of Scotland Marjorie ¬´ less

Many doubts exist as to the identity of this woman or women, wives of William de Lindsay and Gille Crist Earl of Angus. Her name is identical to a daughter of Henry and Ada's, but that daughter is well-documented in her marriages and could not be this person. Much research is needed to determine who this woman is.
Wife of William de Lindsay In the Medieval Lands database, Charles Cawley acknowledges that William had a first wife but doesn't name her; she was the mother of Walter de Lindsay (d. 1221). [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#_Toc389126080]
WILLIAM de Lindsay, son of WALTER de Lindsay & his wife --- (-after [1200]). His parentage is confirmed by the undated charter under which his father Walter de Lindsay donated the church of Earlston to Kelso abbey, for the soul of his uncle Walter, and "concedente Willelmo filio meo"[878]. ...
m firstly ---. The name of William·Äôs first wife is not known.
m secondly ELEANOR de Limesey, daughter of GERARD de Limesey & his wife Amice de Bidun (-before 1223). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by a document dated [29 Oct] 1223 which records a claim against "Hugh de Hoddingesele and Basilia his wife...along with David de Lindesi·Äù relating to charters of ·ÄúAlan de Lymesia and Gerard his son father of said Basilia and grandfather of said David·Äù[891].
William & his first wife had one child:
1. WALTER de Lindsay (-[1221]). "Willelmus de Lyndesay" donated land "in Ercildon" to Dryburgh monastery, with the consent of "Waltero filio meo", by undated charter[892]. Balfour Paul states that Walter de Lindsay was Lord of Lamberton before [1200] when he had a licence from the prior of Coldingham to have a private chapel in his castle there[893]. "ဦCom. Patricio, Will Cumin, Waltero de Lindes, Rog fil Henrဦဦ" witnessed the undated charter under which "David marescall dñi regis Scott" donated "piscarias meas de Thveda" to Melrose abbey[894]. The names of the witnesses suggest that the document should be dated to the late 12th century. "ဦWaltero de Lindesayဦ" subscribed the charter dated 7 Dec 1221 under which Alexander II King of Scotland donated "terram de Burgyn" to Kinloss[895]. m ---. The name of Walterမs wife is not known. She married secondly (1222, Papal dispensation) P--- de Valognes, son of ---. The Chronicle of Melrose records that in 1222 "P. de Valoniis, with the consent ofဦthe king" married "the widow of Walter de Lindsay, but against her own will, because they were connected in the third or fourth degree of relationship or affinity" after which "P" obtained a dispensation from the Pope in Rome[896].
Wife of Gille Crist Similarly, Cawley does not name a Marjorie or Margaret as the wife of Gille Crist (Gilchrist). Here is what he has to say about this wife: [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#GilchristAngusB]
GILCHRIST, son of GILLBRIDE Earl of Angus & his first wife [--- de Dunbar] (-[1207/11]). He succeeded his brother as Earl of Angus. "ဦCom Gillcrist de Anego et Dunec fil eiusဦ" witnessed a charter dated to 1198 under which Roger Bishop of St Andrewမs confirmed agreement with Aberbrothoc over various churches[37]. "Gillecrist comes de Anego" donated "ecclesiam de Monifod" to Aberbrothoc by undated charter witnessed by "Gilb fratre meo, Dun fil meoဦ"[38]. He witnessed a charter of Arbroath Abbey in 1198[39]. "Davidem Ruffum de Forfar" donated "tota terra mea de Kinefe que fuit Ede" to Cupar abbey, for the souls of "Domini mei Willielmi et filii eius Alexandri", by undated charter witnessed by "Comite Duncano, Comite Gartneto, Comite Gilchristo de Anegus, Philippo Camerario, Villielmo Cumyn, David de Haya"[40]. m ---. [41]. "Gillecrist comes de Anego" donated "ecclesiam de Monifod" to Aberbrothoc by undated charter witnessed by "Gilb fratre meo, Dun fil meoဦ"[42]. He succeeded his father as Earl of Angus[43]. "Dunecano comes de Anego" confirmed its churches to Aberbrothoc, as donated by "Gillecrist comes de Anego patris The name of Gilchristမs wife is not known. If Magnus Earl of (part) Caithness was the son of Earl Gilchrist as speculated below, his Norwegian name may have come from his mother. As noted above, there has been some speculation about the parentage of Magnusမs mother, assuming that she was the second wife of Earl Gillbride. However, the junior line of the earls of Orkney and Caithness ceased to hold the earldom in 1198, many years before the alleged grant of Caithness to Magnus. A more sensible suggestion is that, assuming Magnusမs right to Caithness was inherited from his mother, she was related to the last Earl John, who died in 1232, and whose rights would have been divided between his two heiresses. Gilchrist & his wife had one child: 1. DUNCAN (-[1207/14]). "ဦCom Gillcrist de Anego et Dunec fil eiusဦ" witnessed a charter dated to 1198 under which Roger Bishop of St Andrewမs confirmed agreement with Aberbrothoc over various churchesmeis", by undated charter[44]. m ---. The name of Duncanမs wife is not known.
So, it's not clear where the legend of Marjorie, daughter of Henry and Ada, may have started, nor if in fact the wives of Lindsay and Cille Crist were the same person..
However, it's very widely "out there," given the fact that 190 people had it in their trees when we merged all the duplicates together. So I think some serious research is needed to see if there is any good information at all out there about who these wives and mothers might have been (plural and singular). I've always thought it suspicious that this person would have been a sister to another woman named Margaret/Marjory of Huntingdon or Princess of Scotland Margaret de Huntingdon, Princess of Scotland
If anyone has research to help us determine and document the identity of this person, please contact me. Thank you! PW
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Marjory SCOTLAND
* Father: Henry Earl of HUNTINGDON * Mother: Adalaide DE WARENNE * Birth: 1150, Huntingdon, England * Death: 1213
* Partnership with: Gilchrist Earl of ANGUS o Child: Beatrix DE ANGUS Birth: 1180, Angus, Forfarshire, Scotland
Ancestors of Marjory SCOTLAND
/-Malcolm III King of SCOTLAND /-David King of SCOTLAND | \-Margaret Atheling Princess of ENGLAND /-Henry Earl of HUNTINGDON | | /-Walheof Earl of HUNTINGDON | \-Matilda of HUNTINGDON | \-Judith DE LENS
Marjory SCOTLAND
| /-William DE WARENNE | /-William II DE WARENNE | | \-Gundrada of NORMANDY \-Adalaide DE WARENNE | /-Hugh 'Magnus' Duke of FRANCE \-Isabel DE VERMANDOIS \-Adelaide Countess of VALOIS
Descendants of Marjory SCOTLAND
1 Marjory SCOTLAND
=Gilchrist Earl of ANGUS 2 Beatrix DE ANGUS =Walter STEWART 3 John STEWART 3 Euphemia STEWART 3 Alexander STEWART =Jean of BUTE 3 Walter 'Ballioch' STEWART =Mary MENTEITH 3 Elizabeth STEWART 3 Robert STEWART 3 Margaret STEWART 3 William STEWART 3 Beatrix STEWART 3 Christian STEWART

Sources
Competitors for the Crown of Scotland at English Monarchs, accessed May 9, 2015
Wikipedia: Competitors for the Crown of Scotland

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