Family Tree Welborn » Guy I le Strange leStrange (± 1048-± 1105)

Persoonlijke gegevens Guy I le Strange leStrange 

• Hij is geboren rond 1048 in Norfolk, England.
• Hij is overleden rond 1105 in London, Middlesex, England.
• Een kind van Ho√´l II (V) de Cornouaille en Hawise de Bretagne
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 3 augustus 2023.

Gezin van Guy I le Strange leStrange

Hij is getrouwd met Mellette le Strange Peverel.

Zij zijn getrouwd

Kind(eren):

1. Roald Roland (Riuallon) le Strange, of Mileham  ± 1096-< 1158 

• Het echtpaar heeft gemeenschappelijke voorouders.



Notities over Guy I le Strange leStrange



==========paternal=========
Guy leStrange, I is your 26th great grandfather.
You
¬â€  ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Calhoun H. Welborn
his father ·Üí Younger Welborn
his father ·Üí William "Billy" Welborn
his father ·Üí Aaron Welborn
his father ·Üí James Welborn
his father ·Üí Ann Wellborn
his mother ·Üí Jane Ann Pendleton Crabtree
her mother ·Üí Grace Halstead
her mother ·Üí Mary Courtenay
her mother ·Üí John Stucley, of Affeton
her father ·Üí Frances Stukeley
his mother ·Üí Anthony Monke of Potheridge, Esq.
her father ·Üí Frances Plantagenet
his mother ·Üí Elizabeth Dudley, 6th Baroness Lisle
her mother ·Üí Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle
her father ·Üí Edward de Grey, Lord Ferrers of Groby
his father ·Üí Sir Reynold de Grey, II, 3rd Baron Grey de Ruthin
his father ·Üí Lady Alianore de Grey
his mother ·Üí John VI le Strange, Sr., 2nd Baron Strange of Blackmere
her father ·Üí Sir Fulk le Strange, 1st Baron Strange of Blackmere, Lord of Blackmere
his father ·Üí Robert le Strange, Lord of Wrockwardine
his father ·Üí John le Strange, III
his father ·Üí John le Strange, II
his father ·Üí John le Strange, I
his father ·Üí Roald / Roland le Strange, of Mileham
his father ·Üí Guy leStrange, I
his father

https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273

=======maternal======
Guy leStrange, I is your 25th great grandfather.
You
¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith (Lee)
his mother ·Üí Malissa (Melissa Mariliza) Lee (Allen)
her mother ·Üí Matilda Caroline Norwood
her mother ·Üí Theophilus Norwood
her father ·Üí James Richard Norwood
his father ·Üí Theophilus Norwood
his father ·Üí Samuel Norwood, Jr.
his father ·Üí Samuel Norwood, Sr.
his father ·Üí Ann Norwood (Harington)
his mother ·Üí Sir James Harington, MP, 1st Baronet of Ridlington
her father ·Üí Lucy Harrington (Sidney)
his mother ·Üí Anne Pakenham
her mother ·Üí Anne Pagenham
her mother ·Üí John Clement
her father ·Üí Jenkin Clement
his father ·Üí Sir John Clement
his father ·Üí John Clement
his father ·Üí Cecily verch Gruffudd Llwyd
his mother ·Üí Sir Gruffydd Llwyd, Lord of Tregarnedd and Dinorwig
her father ·Üí Margaret le Strange
his mother ·Üí John le Strange, III
her father ·Üí John le Strange, II
his father ·Üí John le Strange, I
his father ·Üí Roald / Roland le Strange, of Mileham
his father ·Üí Guy leStrange, I
his father

Guy leStrange, I is your 26th great grandfather.
You¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Alice Elmyra Smith
her mother ·Üí Nellie Mary Henley
her mother ·Üí John Merrit Wooldridge
her father ·Üí Merritt Wooldridge
his father ·Üí Chesley Wooldridge
his father ·Üí Edward Wooldridge, Jr.
his father ·Üí Mary Wooldridge
his mother ·Üí Mary Martha Flournoy
her mother ·Üí Jane Gower
her mother ·Üí Marian Mary Hatcher
her mother ·Üí Capt. Christopher Newport, Admiral of Virginia
her father ·Üí Christopher Newport, Sr.
his father ·Üí Christopher Richard Newporte
his father ·Üí Mary Allington
his mother ·Üí John Allington
her father ·Üí Elizabeth Argentine
his mother ·Üí Isabel Argentine
her mother ·Üí Cecily de Braose
her mother ·Üí Sir John de Braose, Sr., Lord of Stinton & Ludborough
her father ·Üí Joan de Beaumont, Lady of Woodbridge
his mother ·Üí Richard de Beaumont, Witnesham
her father ·Üí John de Beaumont
his father ·Üí Alice de Beaumont, heiress of Gedney
his mother ·Üí Maud d'Oyry
her mother ·Üí Ralph le Strange, of Mileham & Ercall
her father ·Üí Roald / Roland le Strange, of Mileham
his father ·Üí Guy leStrange, I
his father

Guy leStrange, I
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 1048
Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Death:
circa 1105 (48-66)
London, Middlesex, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:
Husband of Gennavieve Le Strange (Unknown) and Mellette Peverell

Father of Baldwin Le Strange; Bernard Le Strange; Steward Le Strange; Durannus Le Strange and Roald / Roland le Strange, of Mileham

https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273

The Legend of Guy Le Strange

incorporating the
'Romance of Fouke le fitz Warine'

From the progenitor of the House of le Strange, Roland Extraneus, we turn to a a remote part of central England a century before, and Guy le Strange who is the earliest, and otherwise, untraced descendant of the family. The le Strange legend that has been repeated through successive generations can be found in part of an epic tale, the Romance of Fouke le fitz Warine. This French prose which was written by an unknown author in traditional trouverian style of the 13th century, was translated and reproduced in early medieval times for its popularity gained by the declared outlaw Fulk who is otherwise known as Fulk the son of Warine [II]. It is a story set in the 11th century A.D. wherein it begins with a certain lady, Mellette, who features as the outlaw's grandmother in her youth, she was united with her husband Guy of Metz, whom otherwise was known in France from whence he came, as Guarine or Warine de Metz.

The chapter conveys how the le Strange family was founded, prior to the Warines, when Mellette, a beautiful damsel has a jousting tournament arranged for by her wealthy uncle, William Peverel. This was held in the time of William the Conqueror, in 1083 at his Castle Peveril in the Peak of Derbyshire [England] (shown above), and this is where she was expected to find a suitable husband, to which she replied; "Sire" no knight is there in all the world that I would take for the sake of riches and the honour of this land but if ever I take such a one he shall be handsome and courteous and accomplished and the most valiant of his order in all Christendom. Of riches I make no account, for truly can I say that he is rich who has that which his heart desires" [Mellette, 'The Romance of Fouk le fitz Warine'].

Noble-men eager to win her as their bride together with dowry including the attractive white tower of white town, known as Whittington Castle [Shropshire], came from every corner; Scotland, Wales and France. The two most salubrious guests, Owen Prince of Wales, and Eneas, Prince of Scotland, brought 200 knights along, - the Duke of Burgundy outnumbered them with a hundred more. Ydromor, Prince of Galloway came with a modest 150 men, but Guy (Guarine de Metz [France] ), son of John, Duke of Brittany, (Johan duc de la Petite-Bretagene), came with only a hundred, plus his 9 brothers.
Ultimately, Guy, with his life spared, victoriously claimed his wife, Mellette, whom already expressed her interest in him by sending over her glove. It continues... "..... Guy remained in England: And conquered, by the force of his sword, many beautiful lands, and so was named Guy le Strange ...."
"Donqe repeyrerent le dys freres ou lur C chevalers á Bretaigne le Menure; mes Gwy, le Pysné frer, remist en Engleterre ; e conquist par coup d'espée meyntes beles terres, e si fust apeleé Gwy le Estraunge, et de ly vindrent tous les grantz seignurs de Engleterre qu ount le sournome de Estraunge". [The Romance of Fouke le fitz Warine] written in French Medieval prose.

From this point on no longer was he a complete stranger to these parts, but Guy de Metz assumed The Strange name and produced his heir, Fulk fitz (son of) Warine [I]. My mention of this name variant earlier suggests that the Warine's and le Stranges were one of the same family determined by its prefix, though the issue is both a complex and controversial one. However, in essence, the tale of Fulk [II] as distinct from the family legend, celebrates a trouverian type romance similar to that of Robin Hood and King Arthur, which are classified as medieval tales everyone can enjoy. What they have in common is a hero in which his romance is defined by courage & adventure, and at the same time presents a platform on which a new family may flourish.
Invariably the le Stranges' descent has since united them with fitz Warines through recorded marriages much later, and scholars who used the manuscript as an accurate historical guide, have, in their attempt to touch upon the truth, added to the frustration as to the foundations of le Strange. Until Victorian times, the le Strange family kept a written history at Hunstanton after Sir William Dugdale·Äôs publication 'The Baronage Of England' (1675-6) appeared (see below). But it was later to prove insatiable when Rev. R.W. Eyton highlighted the conflicting evidence surrounding the date of the event when he published the Antiquities of Shropshire (1854-60) though he at least affords some characters' existence.

The English 16th century version of the Romance had already been incorporated into Leland's Collectanea (1612) by John Leland who associated together with Sir Thomas le Strange at the court of Henry VIII. Inevitably, if Dugdale·Äôs efforts were conspicuous, his compilation incorporating the legend of Guy as their originator has enjoyed some credibility over the past few centuries, though not surprisingly, it has passed into history with a traditional mixture of fact & fiction, leaving it open to doubt.

What inspired the original author, one cannot say, though an unknown troubadour to us in writing an historic tale of his own, perhaps generates more of a mystery than the present Founder of the House of le Strange. But how ever little or much truth there is in the legend, its best strength perhaps survives in the castle foundations on the Derbyshire peak where much more than this legend took place.

Guy - - The le Strange legend that has been repeated through successive generations can be found in part of an epic tale, the Romance of Fouke le fitz Warine. This French prose which was written by an unknown author in traditional trouverian style of the 13th century, was translated and reproduced in early medieval times for its popularity gained by the declared outlaw Fulk who is otherwise known as Fulk the son of Warine Ii. It is a story set in the 11th century A.D. wherein it begins with a certain lady, Mellette, who features as the outlaw's grandmother in her youth, she was united with her husband Guy of Metz, whom otherwise was known in France from whence he came, as Guarine or Warine de Metz.

The chapter conveys how the le Strange family was founded, prior to the Warines, when Mellette, a beautiful damsel has a jousting tournament arranged for by her wealthy uncle, William Peverel. This was held in the time of William the Conqueror, in 1083 at his Castle Peveril in the Peak of Derbyshire England (shown above), and this is where she was expected to find a suitable husband, to which she replied:
* "Sire" no knight is there in all the world that I would take for the sake of riches and the honour of this land but if ever I take such a one he shall be handsome and courteous and accomplished and the most valiant of his order in all Christendom. Of riches I make no account, for truly can I say that he is rich who has that which his heart desires" from: Mellette, 'The Romance of Fouk le fitz Warine'

Noblemen eager to win her as their bride together with dowry including the attractive white tower of white town, known as Whittington Castle Shropshire, came from every corner; Scotland, Wales and France. The two most salubrious guests, Owen Prince of Wales, and Eneas, Prince of Scotland, brought 200 knights along, - the Duke of Burgundy outnumbered them with a hundred more. Ydromor, Prince of Galloway came with a modest 150 men, but Guy (Guarine de Metz France ), son of John, Duke of Brittany, (Johan duc de la Petite-Bretagene), came with only a hundred, plus his 9 brothers.

Ultimately, Guy, with his life spared, victoriously claimed his wife, Mellette, whom already expressed her interest in him by sending over her glove. It continues... "..... Guy remained in England: And conquered, by the force of his sword, many beautiful lands, and so was named Guy le Strange ...."

It is probable that he died in London, England.

The story seems modern in its emphasis and reinterpretation, not medieval. During the medieval period it would be a disgrace for a young woman of means to insist she be married to someone of no means. It would be absurd, shameful, inconsiderate, and extremely unattractive in a wife. It would be an embarrassment to a family. Everyone married within their own social class. There were women who were shunned by their family if they married without consideration for the matters of property and social position. The entire economic system of communities as a whole required the orderly passage of property with strict laws of primogeniture to the eldest son, not daughters. Men without sons sometimes gave their property to daughters if the husband was appropriate. Whatever she might inherit from her father, if anything, would in part be dependent on who she married. He could not give his property to just anybody. Entire villages and kingdoms were at risk by marriages. Marriages was not about sleazy "chemistry". It was about the orderly management of property by a baron who had an obligation to the tenants on his property; that his estates would produce work, food and goods for all of the people associated with the estate. Marriages had to be made between those whose property made sense to be joined. Other people, such as a king or feudal baron had rights to object to marriages that were ill-suited. Besides, what man would want a girl who abandoned the economic considerations of the era, behaved indecently, and had no concern for the secure management of her father's property? It would be a very unattractive, for a young girl to say something so incredibly sleazy. I cannot imagine why any knight would seek the hand of a girl who said that the matters of property were of no concern to her. Well, the property rights were a concern to the entire community. It wasn't about her. Land ownership was everything in that time and who had the power over the land impacted all aspects of life. This is not a romantic story by medieval standards. It is a modern notion that people might marry without concern for property.

"LeStrange Records A Chronicle of the Early LeStranges of Norfolk and the March of Wales A.D. 1100-1310, with the Lines of Knockin and Blackmore Continued to Their Extinction" by Hamon LeStrange (1916)
https://www.google.com/books/edition/LeStrange_Records/lfIxAQAAMAAJ...

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