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Alice Bryant is your 8th great grandmother.
You ‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
her father ·Üí Britton Lee
his father ·Üí William Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Lemuel Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Edward Lee, Sr.
his father ·Üí Mary Bryan
his mother ·Üí Alice Bryant
her mother
https://www.geni.com/people/Alice-Bryant/6000000005783121129
Alice Bryant (MacLand)
Gender:
Female
Birth:
between 1656 and 1673
Isle of Wight County, Virginia Colony
Death:
November 14, 1729 (56-73)
Isle of Wight County, Province of Virginia
Immediate Family:
Daughter of John Macland and Alice Macland
Wife of William Bryan, Sr.
Mother of Needham Bryan; William Bryant, Jr; John Bryan, of Edgecombe County; Mary Lee and Alice Bryan
https://www.geni.com/people/Mary-Lee-Bryan/6000000008630920517
https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/Alice-Macland/f13030
https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php?fid=26931
Alice's parents were John Macland and Alice Needham. Married 1 JUN 1631.
Will, : On page 473 of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deed Book 1, it gives the estate information of John Macland. It names his daughter Alice Bryant, Grandchildren Nicholas, John, and Elizabeth Perry, grandchildren Needham, William, John, Mary, and Alice Bryant, and wife Elizabeth Macland.
Sources
Website:Sally Koestler; Email: skoe... Website:db ID: dolphin3456; Kathy Wayman; Email: dolp...
Website:LDS FamilySearch; Website:db ID: dolphin3456; Kathy Wayman; Email: dolp...
John Macland Birth 1 JUN 1615 VA, Isle of Wight Co More on this location Links Isle of Wight Co VAGenWeb Site
Death 1705 VA, Isle of Wight C
Alice Needham Birth 1 JUN 1616 VA, Isle of Wight Co More on this location Links Isle of Wight Co VAGenWeb Site FamilySearch County Page FamilySearch State Page
Death 1690
Charles Needham and Bridget Drury had no daughter Alice. There is no room between their documented six children (one died in infancy) for another child (they were married Feb. 27 1654/1655·Äîperhaps 1654, as their second child Robert was baptized in 1655), and Charles was in prison toward the end of their marriage (imprisoned August, 1659, died in prison 1660). Some would argue she was stricken from the will for eloping to America, but she would have been a very little girl at the time of Charles·Äôs death. Only one daughter, Mary, is mentioned in the administration of the estate. She died in England.
Charles·Äô father Robert appears to have had 2 children with his first wife and 12 with his second. While there is room in the second marriage for another child, the dates are off. Robert·Äôs second marriage to Eleanor Dutton occurred about 1623. It was Eleanor·Äôs second marriage as well--she was born ca1596. Eleanor Needham seems too old to be Alice·Äôs mother. I suppose Robert could have had a child out of wedlock late in life, but since he died 9/12/1653 and Alice Bryan presumably had eldest child Needham Bryan in 1690, let·Äôs say for the sake of argument that Alice was born posthumously in 1654, making her 36 at the birth of her oldest child. That·Äôs a stretch, and if she were illegitimate, Alice would be no ·ÄúLady Alice·Äù anyhow.
This website was created by a proven Needham descendant. Some of the dates are documented, but unfortunately not all of them. http://www.members.shaw.ca/jmream/needham.html [note: dead link]
This site references three different peerage references·Äînot primary sources, but better than nothing. http://www.thepeerage.com/p14043.htm#i140421
See also the discussion here: http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/needham/213/
If we·Äôve ruled out both Charles and Robert, that leaves us at square one with our Alice. Some suspect the Needham connection was through either William or Alice·Äôs maternal grandmother instead, which might be a good working theory for research, but isn·Äôt enough to prove a line of descent. Besides, there were other Needhams in Virginia we haven·Äôt ruled out, not to mention men from other families who had Needham as a first name.
The alternative MacLand descent is also problematic. William Bryan is not mentioned in John MacLand·Äôs will fragment (daughter Alice Bryant is mentioned, but her husband is not named) and his grandson ·ÄúNeedham·Äù is thought by many to be a transcription error of ·ÄúWoodham.·Äù Honestly, I put John MacLand there to try to keep the Needhams from being merged onto my tree (no offense!!).
Here are some valid objections to our using the MacLand will fragment as documentation: http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/needham/676/
(By the way, carsonjohnson.com is now a dead link. The document has been preserved in the sources, anyway, but it includes no primary documentation and should not be considered as good source material. Not that any of us can show primary documentation for the whole family tree, but when you·Äôre talking about people in the nobility, the burden of proof should be higher.)
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William, perhaps the son of John Bryan of Nansemond & Sarah (perhaps Berryman). Married Alice Lacland. 5 children: Needham, John, Mary Lee, Alise, & William.
Family
From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/MacLand-5
Alice MacLand married William Bryan[5]born, ca. 1655. Died, ca. 1749[6][7] [8] William is the son of John Bryan and is not a Marquis.[9]
Children mentioned in Will of John MacLand:
Needham Bryan (1690-1770), married Anne Rambeau on 16 Nov 1711 in Virginia, US,[10]
John Bryan (1692-1735)
William Bryan ( -1762)
Mary Bryan
Alice Bryan
On page 473 of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deed Book 1, it gives the estate information of John Macland. It names his daughter Alice Bryant, Grandchildren Nicholas, John, and Elizabeth Perry, grandchildren Needam, William, John, Mary, and Alice Bryant, and wife Elizabeth Macland; 1 June 1705
Blackshear, Perry Lynnfield. Blacksheariana: genealogy, history, anecdotes; a compilation. 1954, p. 316. Atlanta.
https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/Alice-Macland/f13030
https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php?fid=26931
Alice's parents were John Macland and Alice Needham. Married 1 JUN 1631.
Will, : On page 473 of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deed Book 1, it gives the estate information of John Macland. It names his daughter Alice Bryant, Grandchildren Nicholas, John, and Elizabeth Perry, grandchildren Needham, William, John, Mary, and Alice Bryant, and wife Elizabeth Macland.
Sources
Website:Sally Koestler; Email: skoe... Website:db ID: dolphin3456; Kathy Wayman; Email: dolp...
Website:LDS FamilySearch; Website:db ID: dolphin3456; Kathy Wayman; Email: dolp...
John Macland Birth 1 JUN 1615
VA, Isle of Wight Co More on this location Links Isle of Wight Co VAGenWeb Site
Death 1705 VA, Isle of Wight C
Alice Needham Birth 1 JUN 1616
VA, Isle of Wight Co More on this location Links Isle of Wight Co VAGenWeb Site FamilySearch County Page FamilySearch State Page
Death 1690
Charles Needham and Bridget Drury had no daughter Alice. There is no room between their documented six children (one died in infancy) for another child (they were married Feb. 27 1654/1655·Äîperhaps 1654, as their second child Robert was baptized in 1655), and Charles was in prison toward the end of their marriage (imprisoned August, 1659, died in prison 1660). Some would argue she was stricken from the will for eloping to America, but she would have been a very little girl at the time of Charles·Äôs death. Only one daughter, Mary, is mentioned in the administration of the estate. She died in England.
Charles·Äô father Robert appears to have had 2 children with his first wife and 12 with his second. While there is room in the second marriage for another child, the dates are off. Robert·Äôs second marriage to Eleanor Dutton occurred about 1623. It was Eleanor·Äôs second marriage as well--she was born c1596. Eleanor Needham seems too old to be Alice·Äôs mother. I suppose Robert could have had a child out of wedlock late in life, but since he died 9/12/1653 and Alice Bryan presumably had eldest child Needham Bryan in 1690, let·Äôs say for the sake of argument that Alice was born posthumously in 1654, making her 36 at the birth of her oldest child. That·Äôs a stretch, and if she were illegitimate, Alice would be no ·ÄúLady Alice·Äù anyhow.
This website was created by a proven Needham descendant. Some of the dates are documented, but unfortunately not all of them. http://www.members.shaw.ca/jmream/needham.html [note: dead link]
This site references three different peerage references·Äînot primary sources, but better than nothing. http://www.thepeerage.com/p14043.htm#i140421
See also the discussion here: http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/needham/213/
If we·Äôve ruled out both Charles and Robert, that leaves us at square one with our Alice. Some suspect the Needham connection was through either William or Alice·Äôs maternal grandmother instead, which might be a good working theory for research, but isn·Äôt enough to prove a line of descent. Besides, there were other Needhams in Virginia we haven·Äôt ruled out, not to mention men from other families who had Needham as a first name.
The alternative MacLand descent is also problematic. William Bryan is not mentioned in John MacLand·Äôs will fragment (daughter Alice Bryant is mentioned, but her husband is not named) and his grandson ·ÄúNeedham·Äù is thought by many to be a transcription error of ·ÄúWoodham.·Äù Honestly, I put John MacLand there to try to keep the Needhams from being merged onto my tree (no offense!!).
Here are some valid objections to our using the MacLand will fragment as documentation: http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/needham/676/
(By the way, carsonjohnson.com is now a dead link. The document has been preserved in the sources, anyway, but it includes no primary documentation and should not be considered as good source material. Not that any of us can show primary documentation for the whole family tree, but when you·Äôre talking about people in the nobility, the burden of proof should be higher.)
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Alice Needham - Daughter of Viscount of Kilmurray.
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William (I) ·ÄúSmith·Äù Bryan (Bryant) |
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=19343297232&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=SARMemberApps&h=644336&indiv=try
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=8081c6c3-064d-45c0-bd6d-193525094790&tid=108978476&pid=1288
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
Record for Lady Alice Needham
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=SARMemberApps&h=1072868&indiv=try
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=19733ce0-3bcb-4dd2-ba83-240e1ff7a4e3&tid=108978476&pid=1288
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
Record for William Bryan
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6940143899&indiv=try
Record for Wm. Bryant
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=13702267561&indiv=try
Record for Alice Macland
Ancestry Family Tree
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=108978476&pid=2035
Ancestry Family Tree
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=108978476&pid=14431
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=25107594578&indiv=try
Record for Alice Needham
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=42329503382&indiv=try
Record for Col William Bryan Marquis of Thomand
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=32462698959&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
Ancestry Family Tree
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=108978476&pid=1288
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=1354998387&indiv=try
Record for Lady Alice Needham
The Millennium File
1,7249::102610284
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=46371358081&indiv=try
Record for Sir Robert Needham 4th Viscounte of Bromley Kilmorey
Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=7f352dc9-639e-48f1-ba19-09ea9aa56dbb&tid=108978476&pid=2041
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=SARMemberApps&h=563524&indiv=try
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=6abedbb2-ae92-4b2d-8af8-0354ccf7bec5&tid=108978476&pid=1288
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
Record for William Bryan
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
1,9841::108546762
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::644336
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=a35fd28e-f1ef-4d78-943e-5a9591a8095d&tid=108978476&pid=2035
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,5769::3238911
1,5931::546624
1,5771::1887714
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=290051182794&indiv=try
Record for ELIZABETH ALICE NEEDHAM , Lady
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=fe69f15a-9416-4c23-9a9e-9cd8e6b9ceaf&tid=108978476&pid=2035
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoold&h=1887714&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Death date: 1729 Death place: Pasquotank, NC, USA
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::563525
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=WorldMarr_ga&h=170857&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
1,7836::170857
1,5774::1753128
Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com
Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=882636&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::1262938
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=SARMemberApps&h=1072848&indiv=try
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=448a1645-6999-4dd9-a398-e02480e1ff35&tid=108978476&pid=2035
jpg
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
Record for William Bryan
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoolb&h=647147&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Birth date: 11 February 1690 Birth place: Isle Wight, VA, USA
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::1072869
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=millind&h=102610278&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=191995492&indiv=try
Record for MARY W BRYAN
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=-56406164&indiv=try
Record for MARY W BRYAN
1,7836::768622
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoolb&h=3238911&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Birth date: 1659 Birth place: Shropshire
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::1072849
1,60496::3675167
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::1072998
Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
1,2204::1084306
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=WorldMarr_ga&h=170857&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
1,7836::882636
Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoolm&h=350831&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
1,5774::350831
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=24010278698&indiv=try
Record for Capt. Needham Bryan Sr.
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoolm&h=1753128&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Marriage date: 1689 Marriage place:
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoolm&h=350831&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Marriage date: 1689 Marriage place:
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepoolb&h=647144&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Birth date: 23 February 1689 Birth place: Isle Wight, VA, USA
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=170857&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Birth date: 1655 Birth place: Ir Marriage date: Marriage place: of NC
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=290051182794&indiv=try
Record for ELIZABETH ALICE NEEDHAM , Lady
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=25107594578&indiv=try
Record for Alice Needham
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=-56406164&indiv=try
Record for MARY W BRYAN
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6940143899&indiv=try
Record for Wm. Bryant
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=191995492&indiv=try
Record for MARY W BRYAN
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=19343297232&indiv=try
Record for William Bryan
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=42329503382&indiv=try
Record for Col William Bryan Marquis of Thomand