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Persoonlijke gegevens John Norbury Esq. 

• Hij is geboren rond 1355 in Norbury, Cheshire, England.
• Beroep: Treasurer Exchequer.
• Hij is overleden tussen 1416 en 23 oktober 1417.
• Hij is begraven in Grey Friars LondonLondon
  England United Kingdom.
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 30 november 2020.

Gezin van John Norbury Esq.

Hij is getrouwd met Elizabeth Butler.

Zij zijn getrouwd in het jaar 1410Stoke d'Abernon
England (Present UK).

Kind(eren):

1. Henry Norbury  ± 1406-1456 

Notities over John Norbury Esq.

{geni:about_me} John Norbury (died c1417) was an English courtier, ambassador and Member of Parliament. He served as Lord High Treasurer of England.[1]

He was born a younger son of Thomas Norbury of Nantwich, Cheshire.

After serving as a soldier in France in the service of the Duke of Brittany in 1368 he was made deputy Captain of Brest (1382–1397) and Captain of Guînes (1399–1401) with responsibilities for maintaining the truce between England and France. He also represented Hertfordshire in Parliament in 1391. During this time he allied himself with Henry Bolingbroke, the future Henry IV of England.

When Bolingbroke ascended the throne Norbury was made Lord High Treasurer of England (1399–1401), Keeper of the Privy Wardrobe (1399–1405) and a member of his Privy Council. In 1406 he was acting as an ambassador to negotiate a further truce with the French.

He died in 1414 and was buried at Greyfriars, London. He had married twice: firstly Petronilla, with whom he had at least 1 daughter (Joan) and secondly Elizabeth, the daughter of Sir Thomas Butler, MP and the widow of Sir William Heron, Lord Say, MP of Eshott and East Duddoe, Northumberland, with whom he had at least 2 sons, Henry and John, both of whom became knights and MPs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Norbury

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From 'Lady Eleanor Talbot's Other Husband: Sir Thomas Butler, Heir of Sudeley, and his Family' (The Ricardian, Volume XIV, 2004, pp. 62-81): by John Ashdown-Hill [http://www.thericardian.online/downloads/Ricardian/14/06.pdf PDF]

> Various pedigrees for the Norbury family have survived, of varying degrees of accuracy.13 It had been Elizabeth Norbury’s great grandfather, Roger, who had changed the family surname from Bulkeley to Norbury on inheriting the manor of Norbury. The Bulkeley coatof arms:‘sable, a chevron between three bulls’ heads cabossed argent’,“ was borne by Elizabeth’s father, but with a fleut de lis sable on the chevron for difference (see below). Sir John Norbury, however, inherited no manors to go with his coatof arms, and was left to make his own way in the world.15 ...

>"Thomas' mother was Ralph's first wife. Her name has been given by most earlier writers as Elizabeth Hende [footnote: 'Complete Peerage', vol. 12 part 1, London 1953, p. 421.] but, like Alice Lovel, Elizabeth had also had a previous husband, and Hende was not her maiden name, but rather the surname which she had acquired by that previous marriage ... Elizabeth's maiden name was Norbury, which is a toponym. Her family had for several generations held the manor of Norbury in Cheshire, and under the earlier surname of Bulkeley, had been domiciled in that county for even longer ... Sir Thomas's mother was the daughter of the wealthy Sir John Norbury I of Norbury, Cheshire, Treasurer of England. The career of Sir John Norbury I is well documented, although the fact that he was Sir Thomas Butler's grandfather has not previously been recognised.

>"Elizabeth Norbury had at least one sister and two half-brothers. Her father married twice. His first wife, the mother, if chronology is any guide, of both Elizabeth and her sister, Joan, was called Petronilla, but her maiden surname I have not discovered. Petronilla was still living in August 1401, when she is named with her husband as the recipient of Henry IV's grant of the manor of Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, but by 1412 Sir John [Norbury] was married to Lord Sudeley's sister, Elizabeth Butler, and they already had two sons. Probably Petronilla died in about 1404 and Sir John's marriage with the widowed Elizabeth Butler, Lady Say, took place in about 1405. [footnote: 'CPR 1399-1401',p. 541; 'CPR 1408-13', p. 404.] ... As we have seen, thanks to her father's business connections, in about 1408, Elizabeth [Norbury], who was then probably about fifteen years of age, was married to the much older but very wealthy widower, John Hende II, draper and past mayor (1391-92 and 1404-05). John was probably aged about fifty-eight at the time of marriage ... John Hende II died in 1418 ... About a year later, Elizabeth married Ralph Butler, who, on the death of an elder brother, had recently inherited the title of Lord Sudeley."
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Bio by contributor: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
John Norbury, Esq., of Hoddensden, Little Berkhampstead and Bedwell in Essendon, Hertfordshire. Knight of the Shire for Hertfordshire, Treasurer of England, member of council for Henry VI, Keeper of the Privy Wardrobe in Tower of London, Captain of Guines.

Younger son of Thomas de Norbury and his wife, the heiress of Pembridge.

Husband of a Pernel, married about 1385 and father of one daughter, Joan, who married Nicholas Usk and William Parker.

Secondly, husband of Elizabeth Boteler, daughter of Thomas Boteler and Alice de Beauchamp. She was previously married to, as his second wife, Sir William Heron. They married before 30 Oct 1410 and had two sons; Sir Henry and Sir John.

John left home to become a soldier in France, fighting in Brittany in the service of the Duke of Brittany in 1368. In 1385 he arrived at Lisbon from Bordeaux and served as mercenary for Joao, King of Portugal at the Battle of Aljubarrota. He then joined up with the Earl of Derby, Henry, who became King Henry IV, and became a permanent member of council, then the Treasurer of England.

After 1399, Sir Ralph de Neville awarded him the manor of Chestnut Hertfordshire for life, the grant was confirmed by King Henry in 1412.

John was buried at Grey Friars, London with his first wife. His widow, Eleizabeth, remarried to Sir John Montgomery of Essex who died in 1449. They had two sons and one daughter, Alice, the wife of Clement Spice, Robert Langley and Edmund Wiseman. Elizabeth died 05 Feb 1465 and was laid to rest at Erdbury Priory.

NOTE: Douglas Richardson's "Plantagenet Ancestry" states John was in service of King Henry VI. The dates of Henry's rule shows this to be an error. Madeline Barber's "The English Historical Review" covers John and lists John's King was Henry IV."

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=105453276

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'Parishes: Essendon', in A History of the County of Hertford: Volume 3, ed. William Page (London, 1912), pp. 458-462. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/herts/vol3/pp458-462 [accessed 1 December 2020].

BEDWELL is not mentioned in Domesday Book, and the fact that in the reign of Edward IV it was held of Essendon (fn. 41) suggests that at the time of the Survey it was included, with Essendon, in Bayford. It does not appear to be described as a manor until 1388, when it was released, with lands and tenements in Essendon and Little Berkhampstead, to John Norbury and others by Peter Wisebech and William Hedyndon, (fn. 42) who were probably feoffees of Norbury. The latter in 1406 received a licence to inclose 800 acres of land and wood 'of his own soil' adjoining his manors of Bedwell and Little Berkhampstead, to make a park which was to be held to him and his heirs for ever. (fn. 43) This John Norbury married Elizabeth daughter of Sir Thomas Boteler of Sudeley, the widow and second wife of Sir William Heron, and he is known to have died before 1433. (fn. 44) Elizabeth de Say, Baroness Say in her own right, who had married Sir William Heron as her second husband, being his first wife, had died without issue in 1399, and after her death Sir William Heron continued to be summoned to Parliament till his death. (fn. 45) He died in 1404, having married secondly Elizabeth Boteler aforesaid. (fn. 46) After his death Elizabeth his widow married, as above mentioned, John Norbury, but she retained the title of Lady Say till her death in 1464. (fn. 47) She was married again to Sir John Montgomery at some date unknown before 1433, (fn. 48) and after 1412, when she is named as the wife of John (not Henry) Norbury (fn. 49) and widow of Sir William Heron. (fn. 50) Her heir was her grandson John Norbury, who in 1465 received licence to enter into all possessions that came into the hands of Henry VI or Edward IV by the death of John Norbury the elder, or of Elizabeth Lady Say his wife. (fn. 51) In Hilary Term 1465–6 John Norbury the younger conveyed the manor to Sir John Say, (fn. 52) who died in 1478 seised of the manors of Bedwell and Little Berkhampstead, and was succeeded by his son William Say. (fn. 53) During the ownership of the latter in 1522 Mary Tudor appears to have stayed at Bedwell. (fn. 54)

===References
* Joan's 1st husband, Nicholas Uske, Treasurer of Calais, died testate in 1403. The marriage of Nicholas and Joan must have been recent to 1403, as Nicholas Uske had a wife named Alice as late as 1397 [see Papal Regs.: Letters 5 (1904): 52]. For evidence that Nicholas Uske's wife, Joan, was John Norbury's daughter, see the partial abstract of Uske's will published in Collectanea Franciscana 2 (1922): 83, available at the following weblink: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015035805475;view=1up;seq=467
* https://soc.genealogy.medieval.narkive.com/ZvXmvdKd/john-norbury-esq-treasurer-exchequer-1400-died-1414
*Seton, W. W. (Walter Warren)., Leo, B. (1918). Blessed Giles of Assisi. Manchester: The University press. Page 83. [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015035805475&view=1up&seq=468 Hathitrust]
* We can be certain, however, that John Norbury died sometime before 23 October 1417, when his widow, Elizabeth, Lady Say, is known to have been married to her next husband, Sir John Montgomery. This new information is revealed in a footnote published in Aldrich, Register of the most noble Order of the Garter 1 (1724): 205, footnote s, which reads as follows: “Lib. S. Albani in Bibl. Cotton. Nero D. 7. [Date:] 23 Oct. 1417. suscepit beneficium nostrae fraternitatis Elizabetha Domina Say; cujus interventu concessa fuit fraternitas nostri Capituli Domino Johanni de Montegomerico viro suo, qui pro tunc in ultramarinis militavit Domino nostro Regi Henrico.” END OF QUOTE. The above source may be viewed at the following weblink: https://books.google.com/books?id=CwxdAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA205
*King's College London, 2014. Person view | Mapping the Medieval Countryside [online]. Available at http://www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk/view/person/2509804/ [Accessed: 30/11/2020] Profile information found in the inquisition texts: Note: this information has not been supplemented with historical information from other sources. Details Name:Norbury, John, Esquire Gender:Man Rank and Occupation Held Office:- Held Rank:Esquire; Rank Held Title/Tenure:- Held Occupation:- Relationships: Family Name:Norbury; family name, Family:Son: Norbury, Henry [See E-CIPM 22-639/648], Norbury, John [See E-CIPM 22-639/648], Wife: Norbury, Elizabeth [See E-CIPM 22-639/648]

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