Bacheler Family Tree » Joan de Harley (1294-± 1341)

Persoonlijke gegevens Joan de Harley 

• Zij is geboren in het jaar 1294 in Besford, Worcester, England.
• Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 5 mei 1948.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 5 mei 1948.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 5 mei 1948.
• Zij is overleden rond 1341 in Besford, Worcester, England.
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 22 januari 2019.

Gezin van Joan de Harley

Zij is getrouwd met John de Besford.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 1318 te Worcestershire, England.

Kind(eren):

1. Alexander Besford  ± 1319-1403 

Notities over Joan de Harley

{geni:about_me} Not the daughter of Joan Corbet who married the 2nd Robert Harley & survived him to marry John Darras 2nd.

Widow of Robert de Harley.
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Many say she was dau of Robert de Harley and Margaret de Brampton (qv).

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From [https://books.google.com/books?id=4jAUAAAAQAAJ&lpg=PA236&ots=M80_ml0n1C&dq=joan%20harley%20gilbert%20lacy&pg=PA236#v=onepage&q&f=false page 236] of The peerage of England. 3 vols. [in 4. Sig. N6,7 of vol. 1, 3B1 of vol. 2 ... By Arthur Collins

>In 4 Rich. Il being styled Joan, -widow of Robert de Harley, she claimed the third part of the manors of Bueld, and Cherlecote, as her dower against Hamond de Pesliall, and Alice hie wife; and her claim was allowed. She was also living in 13 Hen IV. They had if sue an only daughter and heir °, Alice, married to Sir Hamond de Pestiall, of the county of Stafford, Knt. (ancestor to the present Sir John Peshall, Bart:) and carried the castle and lordship of Harley, and a great estate, out of the family

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Marriage 1 John de Besford

Children
* Alexander Besford

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But From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ancestorsearch&id=I2897

>Some say that Alexander Besford was son of John Besford and Joan de Harley, but:

>To briefly summarize a well documented article in _The Genealogist_ v. 10, no. 1, pp. 35-72: "Agnes (de Besford) Throckmorton was therefore descended neither from the Harley family of co. Salop nor from the Harley family of co. Worcester."

>Evidence indicates that Alexander de Besford (b. est. 1325?) was likely son of John de Besford [who married Joan de Harley] 's brother Alexander, thus entirely missing any possible connection to Joan [de Harley?].

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* http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ancestorsearch&id=I55849
**Sources: Type: Book Periodical: Victoria County History of Worcester

!Source: THE RUFUS PARKS PEDIGREE by Brian J.L. Berry. Information: pg 39. Chart: pg. 37.

!Arms of Besford: gules a fess between six pears or.

!John de Besford and his wife Joan de Harley were holding the Manor of Besford 1341. They were both living 1360.

!Availability: The libraries of Ken, Karen, Kristen, Kevin, Brian, Amie, Adam and FAL.

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