Zij heeft/had een relatie met Arnoaldus de Metz.
Kind(eren):
Weis: a Suevian.
.Dode (Clothilde), who became a nun at Treves, in 612,"
!MARRIAGE: ". . . m.ca. 596 . . . (Arnuld) Mayor of the Palace and tutor of Dogobert, tonsured latesummer 613; (Bishop of Metz)
!REFERENCE-QUOTED: Langston & Buck et al, - PEDIGREES OF SOME OF EMPEROR CHARLEMAGNE'S DESCENDANTS; Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, Md, 1988, p. cv, Vol. II; Sutro Library, San Francisco, CA.
a Suevian
!DESCENT: Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots
of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, 7th ed., at 163
(1992). Line 190-7.
Oda was a Suevian.
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Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I18430
# ID: I18430
# Name: Arnoldus Arnoul Bishop of METZ 1 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Sex: M
# Birth: ABT 562 in of Metz, Schelde, France 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Death: 601 in Carthage, North Africa 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Christening: Margrave of, Schelde 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 6
# Change Date: 25 DEC 2001 2 3 4 5 6
# IDNO: 264 2 3 4 5 6
# Note:
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2 PLAC 264
2 SOUR S332582
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
GIVN Arnoldus (Arnoul) Bishop_of
SURN Metz
NSFX [Marg./Schelde]
See Lines Of Adam, page ten.
Also known aks Arnoul, Margravefo the Schelde.
Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, Chart 701and 804.
Ancestry and Progeny of Captain James Blount - Inmigrant. by RobertFfafman
p. E- 26.
OCCU Arnoul Von Metz ...
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says ABT 562, Saxony; www.rootsweb.com/
gumby says ABT 562, Old Saxony, Germany; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue
says ABT 562;
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says 601; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says
601;COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p.11; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says 601;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000047.htm#I1578 say 601
Arnoul M' graf. Schelde - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11; Arnoul Eveque de
Metz, Mar. of Schelde - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1632; Arnoldus, Bishop of
Metz - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 19; Bishop of Metz - http
://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000051.htm#I1349
Several sources show him as father of Saint Arloph (d. 641) - NPH;
ARNOUL DE METZ, son of AUSBERT DE MOSELLE and BITHILDIS OF FRANCE: http://www.public.asu.edu/~bgertz/family/d0004/g0000072.htm#I2045 says he was son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and BERTHA OF KENT -
NPH
http://www.teleport.com/~ddonahue/donahue/d0004/s0000346.htm#I2230 says he was the son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and Bertha of Kent- NPH
GIVN Arnoldus Of
SURN SAXONY
AFN 8HR9-ZW
REPO @REPO1097@
TITL Ancestral File (R)
AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
PUBL Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
ABBR Ancestral File (R)
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TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
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PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
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TEXT (260-46)
DATE 11 MAY 2000
OCCU Margrave of Schelde; Bishop of MetzArnoldus, Bishop of Metz, father of St. Modoald
DATE 24 MAY 1999
GIVN Arnoldus (Arnoul) Bishop_of
SURN Metz
NSFX [Marg./Schelde]
See Lines Of Adam, page ten.
Also known aks Arnoul, Margravefo the Schelde.
Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, Chart 701and 804.
Ancestry and Progeny of Captain James Blount - Inmigrant. by RobertFfafman
p. E- 26.
OCCU Arnoul Von Metz ...
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says ABT 562, Saxony; www.rootsweb.com/
gumby says ABT 562, Old Saxony, Germany; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue
says ABT 562;
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says 601; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says
601;COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p.11; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says 601;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000047.htm#I1578 say 601
Arnoul M' graf. Schelde - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11; Arnoul Eveque de
Metz, Mar. of Schelde - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1632; Arnoldus, Bishop of
Metz - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 19; Bishop of Metz - http
://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000051.htm#I1349
Several sources show him as father of Saint Arloph (d. 641) - NPH;
ARNOUL DE METZ, son of AUSBERT DE MOSELLE and BITHILDIS OF FRANCE: http://www.public.asu.edu/~bgertz/family/d0004/g0000072.htm#I2045 says he was son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and BERTHA OF KENT -
NPH
http://www.teleport.com/~ddonahue/donahue/d0004/s0000346.htm#I2230 says he was the son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and Bertha of Kent- NPH
Father: Ausbert Vanbertus Ansbertus of FRANCE b: 506 in France
Mother: Blithildis Princess of COLOGNE b: in Of, Paris, Seine, France
Marriage 1 Oda Swabian Lady De SAVOY b: ABT 562 in Of Saxony, Germany
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Children
1. Has Children St Arnoul Arnulf Bishop METZ b: ABT 13 AUG 582 in of, Heristal, Austrasia, France
2. Has Children Itte Of METZ b: ABT 587 in Landen, Liege, Belgium
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Kilde: Wurts, John S., Magna Charta: The Pedigrees of the Barons,
Philadelphia, PA: Brookfield Publishing Co, 1942.
Kilde: names: [Ref: Wurts p425]
Oda SAVOY. [Ahnentafel by Philippe Houdry, from various sources, ver. 3
(Aug. 31, 1994) posted by Tom Camfield]: Chrodoare (Saint Ode),
Alamane woman, Abbess of Amay 589/634.
{geni:occupation} Saint, Kanoniseret. Hendes legeme findes i Sct.
{geni:about_me} ''Her parentage is unknown. She was a Suevian. On that basis, many assign her as a daughter of one Duke of Swabia or another.
''
The French Wikipedia page on Arnoald:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald
casts some doubt about the name of Arnoald's wife being Oda:
La tradition lui attribue une épouse du nom d’Ode, mais c’est le résultat d’une confusion : au Moyen Âge, deux tradition à propos du père de saint Arnulf coexistaient, L’un donnaient Arnoald, l’autre donnait pour parent de saint Arnulf, Bodogisel et sainte Ode. Aegidius d’Orval a tenté de concilier les deux traditions en voulant faire d’Arnoald et de Bodogisel une personne unique[10]
In English:
Tradition attributes to Arnoald a wife named Oda, but this is the result of confusion in the middle ages, as two traditions about the father of St. Arnulf existed: in one, Arnoald is the parent, and in the other is a holy Bodogisel and Oda. Aegidius Orval attempts to reconcile the two traditions by making Arnoald and the Bodogisel a single person.
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English Wikipedia page on Arnoald of Metz:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564. Scholars looking to replace the traditions that would make Arnulf of Metz the son of Arnould have proposed alternative relationships between Arnoald and the Carolingians. Proposed solutions would make him father of one of the following:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Children:
Itte (Itta) "Iduberga" de Metz
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm#PippinLeGrosAustrasiedied714A
ARNOUL [Arnulf], son of [ARNOLD & his wife ---] ([580/85]-Remiremont 18 Jul [640], bur Remiremont, later transferred to Metz, basilique de Saint-Arnoul) m [DODA], daughter of ---. The 11th century life of her son Chlodulf names “mater…Chlodulfi Doda”[52]. Settipani states that this is the only source which names Arnulf´s wife, and inevitably casts doubt on the accuracy of the source written several centuries after she lived[53].
Arnulf & his wife had [three] children:
1. CHLODULF ([610]-8 May [697], bur Metz, basilique de Saint-Arnoul) m [CHILDA [Hilda], daughter of ---.
2. ANSEGISEL ([612]-killed [662]) m ([643/44]) BEGGA, daughter of PEPIN [I] "l'Ancien" or "de Landen", maior domus of King Clotaire II & his wife Itta --- (-693).
3. [WALACHO [Walchisus] m ---. The name of Walacho/Walchisus´s wife is not known.
References:
[52] Ex Vita S. Chlodulfi Episcopi Mettensis, RHGF III, p. 542.
[53] Settipani, p. 148 footnote 35.
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Oda
Female
Oda||p30539.htm|Duke Bodegisel I|d. 581|p30540.htm|Palatina||p38446.htm|Munderic o. V.|b. a 500\nd. 532|p30542.htm||||Gallus M. o. N. Bishop of Troyes||p38447.htm||||
Oda was the daughter of Duke Bodegisel I and Palatina.1 She was a Suevian.2,3,4 Oda married Bodegisel II Governor of Aquitaine, son of Saint Gondoule Governor of Marseilles, Mayor of the Palace, and Bishop of Tongres and unknown.2,3,1,5
Charts
Ancestry of Edward III
Child of Oda and Bodegisel II Governor of Aquitaine
Saint Arnulf Mayor of the Palace and Bishop of Metz+ (13 Aug 582 - 16 Aug 641)2,3,1,4,5
Citations
Moriarty, G. Andrews. "The Origin of the Carolingians", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register volume XCVIII (October 1944).
Weis, Frederick Lewis. Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England Between 1623 and 1650. Fifth Edition. Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1982.
Stuart, Roderick W. Royalty for Commoners, The Complete Known Lineage of John of Gaunt, Son of Edward III, King of England, and Queen Philippa. Fourth Edition. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2002.
Kelley, David H.. "Genealogical Research in England: A New Consideration of the Carolingians", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register volume CI (April 1947).
Sewell Genealogy Site. Online http://www3.sympatico.ca/robert.sewell/sitemapweb.html
http://www.genealogy.theroyfamily.com/p30539.htm
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Barn:
Arnulf "den helige" av Metz (582 - 640)
Itta av Schelde (592 - 652)
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Same Oda as found elsewhere on this tree.
Oda's father was Duke of Swabia Odd von Sachsen and her mother was.
Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
# Note: Page: 190-7
AFN:9GC9-1S
Reference Documentation Includes
1.) James Wm. BEHRENS, Records of the House of Braunschweig-Illinois-Hannover
(I.Q. NEST, Inc.; 1995, 1997).
2.) James Wm. BEHRENS, Gold & Silver Buried in Sand
(I.Q. NEST, Inc.; a work in progress].
3.) World Family Tree, Volume 18, Tree No. 1279.
4.) World Family Tree, Volume 18, Tree No. 2175.
_P_CCINFO 1-20792
AFN:9GC9-1S
OR "ORA"; SWABIAN LADY
Ble kanonisert som helgen.
Descendant of the Sueves who invaded Gaul (south France-nor
--Other Fields
Ref Number: 265
!Source: THE RUFUS PARKS PEDIGREE by Brian J.L. Berry, chart page 61.
!Page 63:
!7. BODEGISEL II (BAUDGISE, BOGGIS), a Frank; mat OVA a suevian, dau. of the Duke of Swabia. This BODEGISEL was governor of Aquitaine; murdered 588 at Carthage while returning from an embassy to Constantinople.
!Avalability: the libraries of Ken, Karen, Kristen, Kevin, Brian, Amy, Adam and FAL.
Considered to be a mythical person.[Custer February 1, 2002 FamilyTree.FTW]
[merge G675.FTW]
Considered to be a mythical person.
RESEARCH NOTES:
Problematic husband & father; Abbess of Amay 589-634; Sainted
a-p: husb: Boso Bodogisel Duke of Neustria; father: Gallus Magnus of Rome
a-s: husb: Baudgise II Duke of Aquitaine parents: Bodegisel I Duke of Swabia
& Palatina de Troyes
franks2: husb: Arnoldus Meroving (b c562, d 601)
SOURCE NOTES:
Bu100; http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per02678.htm#0
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/ancient/fh/franks2.htm
http://www.art-science.com/Ken/Genealogy/PD/ch46_Clovis.html
JMG. Femme d'origine alamane. Sources: La Prehistoire des Capetiens, Christian SETTIPANI & Patrick van KERREBROUCK, 1993. Eugène VASSEUR "Les Nobles aïeux de trois seigneurs rouergats du 17ème siècle" 2002 3e éd.
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