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Persönliche Daten Robert van Frankrijk 

• Alternative Name: de Sterke
• Er wurde geboren zwischen 815 und 830.Quelle 2

  Robert der Tapfere Graf von Paris und Tours
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  - 866 gefallen
  Brissarthe
  
  Sohn des Grafen Robert III. im Worms- und Oberrheingau und der Wiltrud von Orleans, Tochter von Graf Hadrian
  Nach Merlet/Glöckner Sohn des 834 mit seinem Bruder, Odo Graf von Orleans, Stammvater der KONRADINER, gefallenen Grafen Wilhelm von Blois
  
  Lexikon des Mittelalters: Band VII Spalte 883
  
  http://www.manfred-hiebl.de/mittelalter-genealogie/robertiner_herzoege_von_franzien/robert_der_tapfere_graf_von_paris_866.html

• Titel: Hertog, in Neustrië
• Titel: Graaf, van de Wormsgouw
• Er ist verstorben am 2. Juli 866 in Brissarthe, Pays de la Loire, Frankrijk.
• Ein Kind von Robert III van Worms und Wiltrud d'Orléans

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1. Robert I de Bourgogne  866-923 

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ROBERT "le Fort", son of --- ([815/30]-killed in battle Brissarthe 2 Jul 866). Robert´s birth date range is estimated assuming that his known sons were born in [850/60] as suggested below. The parentage of Robert "le Fort" is obscure. Some general indications, which are contradictory, are found in near contemporary sources:

· An unspecified Franconian origin is favoured by the Annales Xantenses which name him “Ruodbertus…ortus de Francia, dux Karoli” when recording his death[3], and by Widukind who refers to his son King Eudes as “ex orientalibus Francia”[4].

· A Saxon origin is suggested by two sources: firstly, Richer names “ex equestre ordine Rotbertum” as father of King Eudes and his “avum…paternum Witichinum advenam Germanum”[5]; secondly, the Miracula Sancti Benedicti names “Robertus, Andagavensis comes, Saxonici generis vir”[6].
Whatever the truth about Robert´s parentage, his career in France is recorded with certainty from 853, although Merlet suggests that he was named in an earlier charter dated I Oct 845[20], a co-identity which is not beyond doubt: Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks restored property to Hincmar Archbishop of Reims which he had previously granted to his supporters, including property granted to "…Rotbertus…", by charter dated 1 Oct 845[21].

A document issued by King Charles II "le Chauve" dated Nov 853 names "Dodo episcopus, Hrotbertus et Osbertus" as missi in "Cinnomannio, Andegavensi, atque Turonico, Corboniso, et Sagiso"[22], which may refer to Robert “le Fort” or to Robert Seigneur [comte] à Sesseau who is named above.

The Annales Bertiniani record that "Pippinus" joined with "Rotberto comiti et Britonibus" in 859[23], which suggests that Robert had earlier rebelled against King Charles II in Brittany. Robert submitted to the king's authority, when he was given command of the march of Neustria, confiscated from the Rorgonid family for supporting the revolt of Louis (later King Louis II) against his father[24]. Regino records that King Charles II "le Chauve" invested "Rodberto comiti" with "ducatum inter Ligerim et Sequanam adversum Brittones" in 861[25]. The Annales Bertiniani record that "Rodbertus" attacked "Salomone duce" [duke of Brittany] in 862[26]. The Annales record that King Charles´s son, the future King Louis II "le Bègue", rebelled against his father in 862 and, heading an army of Bretons, defeated "Rotbertum patris fidelem" in 862, after which he burned Angers yet again[27].

Comte Robert & his [second] wife had two children:
EUDES [Odo]
ROBERT ([860]-killed in battle near Soissons 15 Jun 923).

Bronnen:

[3] Annales Xantenses 867, MGH SS II, p. 232.

[4] Widukind I, 29, MGH SS III, p. 430.

[5] Richeri Historia I, 5, MGH SS III, p. 570.

[6] Certain, E. de (ed.) (1858) Miracula Sancti Benedicti (Paris) II, p. 93.

[20] Merlet, R. ´Les comtes de Chartres, de Châteaudun et de Blois aux IX et X siècles´, Mémoires de la Société archéologique d´Eure-et-Loir, Tome XII, 1895-1900 (Chartres, 1901), p. 28.

[21] RHGF VIII, Diplomata, LV, p. 478.

[22] Karoli II Conventus Silvacensis, Missi…et pagi… 8, MGH LL 1, p. 426.

[23] Annales Bertiniani 859, MGH SS I, p. 453.

[24] McKitterick, R. (1983) Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians 751-987 (Longman, London and New York), p. 266.

[25] Reginonis Chronicon 861, MGH SS I, p. 571.

[26] Annales Bertiniani 862, MGH SS I, p. 456.

[27] Annales Bertiniani 862, MGH SS I, p. 457.

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