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Persönliche Daten Rachel NATHAN 

• Alternative Name: ruchael
• Sie ist geboren im Jahr 1785 in Kepno, Wlkp., Poland.

  Pass auf: War älter als 60 Jahre (61), als Kind (Elias Elias) geboren wurde (??-??-1846).

• (DNA) im Jahr 2000 in mtDNA-haplogroup U2.Quelle 2
• Sie ist verstorben vor 1843.Quellen 3, 4
• Ein Kind von Adolph NATHAN

Familie von Rachel NATHAN

Sie war verwandt mit Joachim Hirsch ELIAS.

Kind(er):

1. Hirsch Elias  1817-????
2. Rosalie Elias  1819-1891 
3. Jette ELIAS  1821-???? 
4. Nathan Elias  1828-1896 
5. Bertha Elias  1831-1882 
6. Feibusch Falk Elias  1832-1837
7. Samuel Elias  1836-????
8. Isaac Elias  1837-????
9. Helene Elias  1835-1879 
10. Elias Elias  1846-???? 
11. Nathalie Nuche Elias  ± 1840-????

Notizen bei Rachel NATHAN

Maternal, mitochondrial, mtDNA results:
Our particular mtDNA fingerprint shows that our mother's maternal line was Aschkenazi Jewish, with a 99.9% certainty.
Our particular sequence with the above mutations is only one branch of Haplogroup U7, but everybody with our 4 mutations so far has been shown to be Aschkenazi Jewish. (There are non-Jews with a similar mtDNA from which our Askkenazi Jewish mother originated---but until further tests are gathered, we will not know where our particular sequence originated.) Our U7 did not originate Europe, as no Euopean women are in Haplogroup U7. The most likely place is the Caucauses mountains.
Four women's Haplogroups were found to have given rise to about 40% of Askenazi Jewish women. Those 4 women were Haplogroup K1,K2, K3, and N3. Our Haplogroup U7 therefore represents one of the founding women that makes up the other 60% of Askenazi Jewish woman's mtDNA.
Less than 100 women gave rise to all Aschkenazi Jewish people---possibly as few as 20 women, and our U7 female ancestor was one of them. She must have converted as Jewish men made their way to Europe. She was not from the original Israeli population, as our U7 sequence does not appear in the Middle East.
Louis Loccisano (www.calabriadna.com)

While looking at U7a5 FMS test results, I noticed that several people in this group report Jewish ancestry. U7a5 has an apparently unique HVR1 sequence 16291T, 16304C, 16318T, 16519C, so it can probably also be identified by the HVR1 test. There are 90 people in this group who tested HVR1 at FTDNA and 11 of them tested the full genome. Their origins are all in central or eastern Europe including Germany, Poland, Austria, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Based on the FMS tests I estimated the group to be about 1200 years old. This would be consistent with a U7a5 founding lineage in Germany in the middle ages and later migration eastward, "forming communities in non German-speaking areas, including Bohemia, Hungary, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, and elsewhere between the 11th and 19th centuries." - the quote is from the Aschkenazi entry in Wikipedia. There are no people in this group who report ancestry outside of the this region, and there are no FMS test results in GenBank other than people who have tested at FTDNA.

U7a5 is has 7 mutations in addition to those of its parent haplogroup U7a. Behar et al 2012 estimate U7a to be about 17,000 years old. Looking at U7a5's sister groups, U7a1 to U7a4, their current geographic distribution is mostly in the Near East, southern Europe and India. An origin of U7a5 in the Near East seems possible, although it would be helpful to find test results with earlier branch points in the descent from U7a to U7a5 and compare their geographic origins. It is very interesting that there are no branch points (yet discovered) in U7a5 over a period of nearly 16,000 years, but this is not unusual for rare subclades in the U haplogroups.
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general summary of your subclade U7a5 - I posted this on Anthrogenica discussion forum a few months ago:

I shared these results with Doron Behar and he agreed that U7a5 "indeed seems to be a minor founding lineage among Aschkenazi Jews".

Now, specifically on your results, you have one extra mutation at 5814 that is unique in U7a5 and appears to be a recent mutations in your maternal line. The same mutation is found in the results of your near relatives. I'd guess that this mutation occurred sometime within the last 1000 years, though it is difficult to say precisely when. It will be interesting to see if more test results are found that share this extra mutation.

I also copied your results below relative the rCTS, along with the results of JQ703913, a person from the Behar et al 2012 paper. There are 10 full genome test results at FTDNA that match JQ703913 exactly. The lack of additional mutations indicates this is young subclade. Also of these people are listed in your 2-step match list. You differ by them in your extra mutation at 5814 (1 step) and you also have an insertion of an extra C at marker 571. This is counted as a second step, however, insertions of a C at 573 are extremely common and not very significant, so I would consider you to be a 1-step match with this group.

It is likely that all of your HVR1 matches [[sherry, arnold, carson]] are also in U7a5 and share Aschkenazi ancestry.

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