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Persönliche Daten Franklin Preble Pilcher 

• Er wurde geboren am 4. August 1860 in Plainfield, Illinois, Verenigde Staten.
• Er ist verstorben am 20. Januar 1931 in St. Louis Park, Illinois, USA, er war 70 Jahre alt.
• Er wurde beerdigt in Lakewood Cemetry.
• Die leiblichen Eltern sind William Donald Pilcher und Elizabeth Austen
• Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 10. Juni 2014.

Familie von Franklin Preble Pilcher

(1) Er ist verheiratet mit Lily Marietta Holm.Quelle 1

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3 STAE Minnesota
3 CTRY USA

Sie haben geheiratet am 21. September 1907 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, er war 47 Jahre alt.

Kind(er):

1. Norma Pilcher  1908-± 1991 
2. Bessie Pauline Pilcher  1910-1943 
3. Robert Holm Pilcher  1912-2005 
4. Franklin Preble Pilcher  1914-1993 
5. (Nicht öffentlich)

(2) Er ist verheiratet mit Jennie Lind Peck.Quelle 1

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3 STAE Minnesota
3 CTRY USA

•The Marriage Certificate says January 31, 1888 in Minneapolis. The marriage date recorded in the November 29, 1905, Divorce Complaint is "about December 31, 1888." Another source suggests it was Mar 31, 1888.
•Frank's mother lived in Greene, Iowa, and an unrecalled source said they were married there.
•The 31 Jan 1888 date is confirmed in the Family Bible.

Jennie "willfully deserted" Frank "on or about the first day of October, 1904." Papers state that Frank was willing and able to provide for her at the time, but that defendant "has ever since and now refuses to return to plaintiff and to live with him."

13 Jan 1906 Divorce was final. Attorney Charles Traxler represented Frank at the Jan 11 hearing. Frank did not attend. Jennie did not attend the hearing, did not respond to the earlier Summons, and was not represented by counsel.

Sie haben geheiratet am 31. Januar 1888, er war 27 Jahre alt.

Ereignis (Y ) am 13. Januar 1906 in Hennepin County, Minnesota, Verenigde Staten .

Notizen bei Franklin Preble Pilcher

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3 STAE ILLINOIS
3 CTRY USA
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3 STAE Minnesota
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3 CITY Minneapolis
3 STAE Minnesota
3 CTRY USA

Interesting that in the 2 Jun 1900 Minneapolis census, Frank is listed with a birthdate of Aug 1863 and 36 years old. He would actually be 39 years old. Since his wife was only 30, perhaps he told her he was younger?

In the June 1895 Minneapolis census, Frank gave his age at last birthday as 33, which would give him a birth year of 1861, as he was about to have a birthday in August, on which date he would actually turn 35.

BIOGRAPHY:

Note from Elizabeth Trimble Skinner to Chuck Pilcher, 2003

Please give the large pic. of Frank to one of his boys or a grandchild. I probably have a snapshot of him and recongnize him? He and my dad were so close.
Lib

The Preble name comes from a village near Newington, Hythe, Cheriton, etc. in the E. Kent area. Whether the village was named for someone in the family, I don't know. I vaguely recall that one of the witnesses to an early Pilcher will had the last name of Preble. /CP

Franklin went to Greene, Iowa, with his mother. They had a farm there. Frank was said to be "the apple of her eye." He owned and ran the "German Stock Food Company" in Minneapolis and was involved in real estate. Dad (RHP) recalls once going with Franklin to a sixty unit apartment building to collect the rent. But eventually Franklin lost that building somehow, and Dad remembers another person saying that Franklin :should be in jail for what he did" with regard to that building. But, however he handled it, he came out on top and survived, according to Dad. Ann also recalls it being said that he was into marketing some sort of "electric health machine," and also some sort of medicinal "salve."

Dad (Robert H. Pilcher) remembers that during his childhood they lived in a rather nice home with crystal glasses, china on the table and even push buttons under the table to call for the maid. They did have a maid, apparently, in addition to Aunt Hilma, at least up until the time when Franklin's fortunes took a turn for the worse. Dad says that one of his most vivid memories is of the maid standing in a doorway along the long upstairs hallway watching and laughing as his dad (Franklin) walked naked from the hallway to the bathroom, apparently not knowing that the maid was watching. Dad recalls his first ride in a car to be in a "Cole 8," a nice car owned by his Dad. He next recalls his dad owning a "Chandler," and recalls that the front wheels would "jacknife," like it did on a trip to see the Holms in Vasa one time, running off the road and into a telephone pole. The pole was split, but the fender remained intact without a scratch. This would have been about 1920.

It's said that Bob (Robert Holm Pilcher) acts most like Frank, in terms of his tendency to exaggerate things. But Frank Jr. looked the most like him. The elder Frank was apparently a real "lady killer."

Elizabeth Pilcher Pennock, in a letter to her son Franklin in 1888, refers to his "hands shaking so." Robert Holm Pilcher also suffers from a tremor.

The wedding of Frank and Jennie Tew was reported in the newspaper and occurred in Green, Iowa, according to Ann Johnson Pilcher. Ann Johnson Pilcher also said they supposedly had a big beautiful wedding in the early 1880's in Plainfield, IL.

The tone of an 1888 letter from Eliz AP Pennock to Frank indicates that Frank and Jennie didn't get married in the old fashioned way and probably didn't even tell his mother they were doing so.

5 Feb 1888 letter to Frank from bro. Will in San Francisco: "...Presume you are now thinking of taking your lady to church... Tell us something about your girl. We understand you are 'clearly gone' this time.. Suppose of course you visit the Ice Palace. It must be a beautiful sight..."

1888 (estimated) letter to Frank from Elizabeth: ...Do you think Washington Terr is a good place to go to? Bert's head so suns on it... Isn't it very cold there?...

12 Feb 1888 letter to Frank and Jennie from Elizabeth: "...One thing Jennie you will find nice in Frank, he will not keep all his business matters to himself. So many men... with their wives as if they know nothing outside of the house... Frank, one thing is sure, you gave much pleasure to so many to whom you were oblidging and kind. No young man was more missed in surety, and that is nice for Jennie to know..."

25 Mar 1888 letter from Andrew Trimble to Jennie: ...Frank will persist in the idea he has the best wife in the world but he cannot make everybody else's wife believe it... I hope you will see to it that Frank attends church every Sabath. I used to think he went to church to please his mother, but I guess I was mistaken. I now think he went to please the girls...

Reliable reference reports marriage of Frank and Jennie as 31 Mar 1888, but one note in Norma's hand indicates it was 31 Jan 1888.

29 Apr 1889 letter from Elizabeth Pilcher Pennock to Frank and Jen: "...I say, Jen, isn't it nice to be alone to do as one likes, eh? How is your Mother and Sisters..." [Frank worked at 607 Lumber Exchange, Mpls, and lived at 2937 Portland Avenue, Mpls, with Jennie, according to letters from Mother Elizabeth at this time./CP]

Jan 1898 letter from AF Pilcher to his nephew King Trimble asks if Frank and Jennie will be starting their trip to California after visiting with King [in Iowa?/CP]

Jennie refers to playing cribbage in a letter to King in Feb. 1900. [Obviously an old time Pilcher family game./CP]

An April 1900 letter says that "Bert and Nora spent Saturday with us... We expect to move out to the lake [Minnewashta] next week... Frank went to church a Westminster with me Easter Sunday. The men all wore plug hats, the kind Frank says were all the craze 12 years ago when he 'first struck Minneapolis."

An Oct 1900 letter from Jennie to King Trimble refers to Jennie having a "girl" around the house. She's a 7th Day Adventist and was hanging out the wash on Sunday, so Jennie had to "call her down," saying "we have a Sabbath and were not heathens quite yet. She is a fine cook anyway." They lived at 3245 Stevens Avenue at the time. Carrie Trimble had recently visited, too.

Aug 8 1904 letter to King in Detroit, MN, from Frank speaks of Jen. Letterhead says "Frank P. Pilcher, Real Estate and Insurance, Farm Lands, 510-11 Bank of Commerce Building.

A 21 Aug 1904 letter from Etta to King Trimble at the Hotel Minnesota in Detroit, MN (Detroit Lakes?/CP), is written on the colorful letterhead of the German Stock Food Co. Letter says at the end that "Mr Pilcher was in here last night. Is the same, jolly old fellow." Aug 1904 letter from Jennie to King says that Frank is going roller skating tomorrow with Annis (?sp). Mentions several other friends names who I don't recognize/CP

A Sep 1904 letter to King from Etta refers to King "wishing that you could come back and work for the German Stock Food Co. now since they have new management." Did Etta work there when Frank got involved with the company?/CP She says "the new bosses are alright."

4 Oct 1904 letter to King from Frank: ...since I got into this blooming Stock Food business, I have been kept busy. We are not shipping many goods as yet so do not require much help. May need you down here a little later if you will come... There is a young lady here in the office that I think would be willing to go and keep house for you. (Only kiddin, Prince) Anyway, if she won't go, I will hunt up some one that will, if you aren't able to... Well, let me hear from you telling me what you think of going into Dakota and work your land. Very truly, F. P.

9 Nov 1904 letter to King from Frank: [only minor business stuff]

Nov 22 1904 letter to King in Detroit, MN, from Frank: ...Will look for you down Thursday... We are at 414 & 416 3rd Ave. N. We live at Nettery [sp?] Flats on 2nd Ave and 13 St. S. Jen is away so we can paint the town...

Dec 1 1904 letter to King from Frank says, "Better come down again soon and take in the 'Dewey' with me. That is a place where the young ladies can not go, and we are safe."

Dec 5 1904 letter from Etta to King mentions "if Mr. Pilcher had not told me you were coming [to Mpls] I would not have known it." Also says "I do not think I would care to have a boss like your, being on the drunk... I would prefer one like Mr. Pilcher." Also says that the GSFC keeps her so busy that she will have to work the Monday after Xmas. Says there's enough work there for King, too.

Jan 4 1905 letter from Jennie to King says, "Endsleys have invited us to go out for over Sunday. I don't expect to go but Frank will probably go." Lists current address as 124, E. 13' St., Flat 2"

Mar 8, 1905, letter from Etta to King typed on GSFC letterhead says the building has a new awning and new side-walk and the floor was painted red. "Frieda, Blackwell and Frankie are still working in the factory, also Sid. Blackwell." "Mr. Pilcher would like to send his love to you, but he does not know I am writing to you. He has not returned from lunch and here it is after 2:00 o'clock." "I got a watch from my good old 'dad' for Xmas." [would she mean her own dad or possibly Frank?/CP]

Mar 16 1905 letter from Frank to King says he is doing about "$2000 per month business... Got Palmer in Kansas selling out there... I have put in by best work on this business and have got things in very good shape finely."

A May 8, 1905, letter to King, Etta refers to Mr. and Mrs. Lacey moving to Portland, O.... Geo. Heffner and Frankie Howell (Mr. Lacey's stepdaughter) being engaged... Frieda and Mr. Blackwell still at the factory... We are busy as ever... no vacation in sight. Hope to "go to Ft. Dodge, Ia." if can get away.

June 4 1905 letter from Frank to King indicates Frank is deeding over to King a couple properties in Ramsay and Hennepin Counties and wants King to sign deeds "so I can keep on hand in case of accident to you. If I should die before I use the property you can have it. And let me tell you there is several thousand dollars worth... If anything should happen to me, you could easily find out what is in your name by sending to the Register of Deeds... Don't say anything to any one about this. And if any one should ask you about it don't answer till you write me." [What's going on here? Sounds like an under-the-table deal to be completed in case of some not-too-unforseen event (such as Frank's impending divorce?) occuring./CP]

9 Aug 1905 letter from Etta to King: ...[refers to being] not very busy right now, but expect to in a few weeks ship a car load to Atlanta, making the second one this year. We hope to do a good business this coming winter, better than last." In a PS she adds, "If I catch a nice bullhead while in Red Wing, I will mail [underlined] it to you." Letter on GSFC head/CP]

15 Dec 1905 letter from Frank to King: ...Yes the property is free ofall encumbrances, and I am aware of the fact that it won't remain so long. This and the furniture will make five or six thousand gone to h---. Nothing is selling for settled for sure yet, but looks as if it would be. She wishes to go it alone, and I guess it is best, although it is tough... [Apparent reference to real estate deal and divorce/CP]

Jan 20 1906 letter to King from Frank: "...Have been intending to write... but my numerous troubles have kept my mind in such shape that could not get started. I am a grass widow in earnest. Jen came back here Nov 1st and stayed till after Christmas. Then went back to Washington. We decided we could not get along, so I started divorce proceedings with her consent and approval. I gave her all she asked for. That is her first request. Afterwards she got a lawyer and tried to get more, but I dried them up so quick they did not know what to do. I gave her a full half of what I had and more considering my debts and thought that was enough. She must have something on in Washington or is clear off. I don't know which. I hope to goodness she has something good in sight, as I would hate awful to have her go rong (sic). I offered her a fair deal to start over again but she preferred to go it alone. The case came up the 12th and went through without trouble. I was in hope it would be turned down, as I feel awful about it now. Am afraid I have done rong (sic), also gave away that which has taken years to earn, but it is done and can't be undone. And if have ronged (sic) the poor girl will have to suffer for it. One thing sure she could have avoided all the trouble if she had wanted to..."

4 Feb 1906 letter from AY Trimble to his son King, says: "...have heard that Frank has [provened?] a divorce. I expect he had to put up pretty well with Jen but he could afford to rather than to keep putting up all the time..."

NOTE by Charles A. Pilcher, 30 Dec 2012: So Frank had married Jennie Peck, daughter of Henry Clay Peck, who had some connection to Crown Point, NY, and King Trimble later married Juliet Flavia Murdock Peck, the widow of Henry North Peck. There MUST be some connection here, but I can't yet find it.

Norma Pilcher Oram writes to Mary Ethel Jahnel in 1961: ...I don't find anything on the divorce, but Aunt Nora (Albert French's wife) told me the grounds were incompatibility. He married my mother in September 1907. I have their letters during courtship. I burned many of them but saved a few. He was so very much in love with her...

Summer 1906 [judging by content] letter to King on Hotel Waverly, Mpls, stationery, Frank writes: "My girl [Etta, his secretary, who was writing King also at the time/CP] gives me an account of you quite often. And by the way, she is the best looking girl in the city now. She is at Red Wing again this week. Not much doing, so can get away often... I am still a Grass Widow and think will remain so, at least think so now. They say varity (sic) is the spice of life. I think I will try it..."

16 Jul 1906 letter to Etta in Vasa from Frank: Dear little girl, Well, one day nearly gone and it has seemed like a week. Isn't it time for you to come home. I don't know how I am going to stand it for two weeks. I am most sick now, and not from eating raspberries and Ice Cream either. I am wondering if you are missing me or ever think of me. Will bet not. For me life is no good without you... I am wondering if you are coming to St. Paul Wednesday. If you do I don't see why I can't go home with you. I could take the night train back so would not bother any one... Oh say I wonder what you will do not to have me around to take care of you. But now I am starting again. But actually Pitty [sic/?/CP] I miss you so... I must have acted like a fool. It was so hard going with such a love [?long] good bye. I wish to goodness would get a letter from you tomorrow,

Note from Janie Pilcher about 2005 regarding the pocket watch/watches:
I'll call Bob shortly. East coast is still getting pounded by TS Fay. Sure is a slow mover.
I was told it was our Grandfathers watch and was to go to you. My Grandmothers maiden name was Helen Margaret Graves. Beats me...I don't believe women had pocket watches . Most likely a man's.
I'll be in touch.
Love
J
NOTE by Charles Pilcher Nov. 2010: I now have the two watches. Although Janie thinks the initials are HMG (her grandmother's) I disagree. I have had watchmakers evaluate them. I'll try to add their notes in here sometime.

BURIAL:
Dear Chuck,

That was a good picture of the three boys at Lakewood cemetery. Information on the Pilcher plots: Franklin Sr. bought the plot when his wife died. He also put up the large head stone. The first one buried there was Lily Marietta (Etta), then Aunt Hilma, Franklin Sr., Bessie McBeth, Stan and Norma Oram.

After Grandpa Pilcher [Franklin Preble Pilcher] died there were 2 plots left, and my mother [Ann Johnson Pilcher] said they were to go to the oldest son - which would have been your Dad. However, your dad did not want them, so he gave them to my mother. Then my parents decided to be cremated, so they are buried in the same plot. That left one plot and my mother gave it to me, which is not in use yet. ;o)

So, at that site that says "Pilcher" there are 2 Pilcher's, a Holm's (not sure of Aunt Hilma's last name), a McBeath, and 2 Oram's. The stone is a little misleading.

Thanks for Uncle Don's address.

Jan Oram Deis (about 1996)

BURIAL: Information via email from Don Pilcher Jan 17, 2003Lakewood Cemetery (Minneapolis)The people buried there are:
Franklin Preble Pilcher fatherMary Etta motherHilma M Aunt HilmaBessie SisterI don't believe Stan and Norma are interred there. I don't know where they are buried.It is beautiful there. On a hill side. Perpetual care. All graves are decorated on Memorial day..I luged vases there with Jum Swanson one memoriial day. Jim's Dad was the groundskeeper..DON

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