Genealogie Wylie » Eleanor (Alianore) le Strange (± 1345-1396)

Persönliche Daten Eleanor (Alianore) le Strange 

• Sie ist geboren rund 1345 in Blakemere, Weobley, Herefordshire, England.
• Sie ist verstorben am 20. April 1396.Quelle 2
• Ein Kind von John 2nd Baron le Strange und Ankaret le Boteler
• Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 5. April 2023.

Familie von Eleanor (Alianore) le Strange

Sie ist verheiratet mit Reynold 2nd Baron de Grey.

Sie haben geheiratet vor 29. November 1360 in Knockin, Oswestry, Shropshire, England.Quelle 2

Kind(er):

1. Reynold 3rd Baron de Grey  ± 1362-1440 
2. Ida de Grey  ± 1368-1426 

Notizen bei Eleanor (Alianore) le Strange

Ancestral Roots states that Alianore's parents are Roger II 5th Baron leStrange of Knockyn and his wife Aline FitzAlan. The following post byDouglas Richardson to SGM, 8 Sep 2002, indicates different parents forEleanor/Alianore:

From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry AT msn.com)
Subject: New Henry II descent for Eleanor le Strange, wife of Reynold deGrey, 2nd Lord Grey of Ruthin
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-09-08 09:06:15 PST

Dear Chris ~

The deposition dated 1408 cited by C.P. 14 sounds like good evidence tome for the identification of the parentage of Eleanor le Strange, wife ofReynold de Grey, 2nd Lord Grey of Ruthin. Eleanor died in 1396, so thedeposition is almost contemporary with her lifetime. This correctionwould make Eleanor le Strange the daughter of John le Strange, 2nd LordStrange of Blackmere (died 1349), by his wife, Ankaret le Boteler. Ifso, she would have the following all new descent from King Henry II asfollows:

HENRY II, King of England, by a mistress, IDA _____.
WILLIAM LONGESPÉE, Earl of Salisbury, married ELA OF SALISBURY.
IDA LONGESPÉE, married WALTER FITZ ROBERT, Knt., Baron of LittleDunmow, Essex.
ELA FITZ WALTER, married WILLIAM DE ODDINGSELES, Knt., of Solihull,co. Warwick.
IDA DE ODDINGSELES, married ROGER DE HERDEBURGH, Knt., of Prilleston,Norfolk [see CLINTON 12].
ELA DE HERDEBURGH, married WILLIAM LE BOTELER, 1st Lord Boteler of Wem.
ANKARET LE BOTELER, married JOHN LE STRANGE, 2nd Lord Strange ofBlackmere.
ELEANOR LE STRANGE, married Reynold de Grey, 2nd Lord Grey of Ruthin.

The above royal descent goes through the new Herdeburgh-Oddingselesconnection, which matter was discussed in several posts this past year onthe newsgroup.

The above arrangement assumes that Ida Longespee, wife of Walter FitzRobert, was the second daughter of that name of William Longespee, Earlof Salisbury. To verify that this Ida Longespee belongs in thatgeneration, this past week I checked the chronology of the family ofWilliam de Oddingseles, Knt., who married Ida Longespee's daughter, ElaFitz Walter. My investigation indicates that William de Oddingseles wasborn say 1230/5, which date is entirely compatible with William's wife,Ela Fitz Walter, being a granddaughter of William Longespee, Earl ofSalisbury, and his wife, Ela of Salisbury, as above. Research indicatesthat William de Oddingseles' father, William, Sr., and uncle, Gerard,both were of full age before 1239. William, Sr., and Gerard's parents,Hugh de Oddingseles and Basile de Limesey, in turn were evidently marriedabout 1200. For my prior statement that there were two Ida Longespee'sin the same generation, please see the archives.

Note: I have the Ida Longespee mentioned above as a daughter of WilliamII de Longespee (William's son), based on a suggestion by AncestralRoots. While not impossible, it is very unusualy to have two daughtersnamed Ida by the same husband and wife.

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