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Persönliche Daten Edward of Salisbury 

Quellen 1, 2, 3

Familie von Edward of Salisbury

(1) Er hat eine Beziehung mit Adelize Heiress de Rames.


Kind(er):

  1. Leonia of Salisbury  < 1130-> 1214 


(2) Er ist verheiratet mit Maud Fitzhubert.

CHAN17 Jul 2002

Sie haben geheiratet im Jahr 1090 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.Quellen 4, 5


Kind(er):



Notizen bei Edward of Salisbury

EDWARD OF SALISBURY, styled also Edward the Sheriff, whose parentage is unknown (b), was born ante 1060, it is said in England. He was sheriff of Wiltshire so early as February 1080/1. In 1086 he held in chief 33 manors in Wilts, as well as smaller estates in Surrey, Hants, Dorset, Somerset, Middlesex, Bucks, Oxfordshire and Herts, being styled in D.B. "Edwardus Sarisburiensis." He survived the Conqueror. He m. Unknown of whom nothing is known (e). [Complete Peerage XI:373-4, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)][b] According to the Book of Lacock, he was the son of Walter le Ewrus, Earl of Rosmar, a fictitious person, and brother of Gerold, Earl of Rosmar, born in Normandy before the Conquest (Dugdale, Mon., Vol. vi, p. 501). The nickname "le Ewrus" [=I'heureux, or the fortunate) was converted into "de Evreux" by later writers, with the result that the family has been given the name of Devereux and has been tacked on to the Norman Counts of Evreux (see the tabular pedigree given by Planché, Journal of the Brit. Arch. Ass., Vol. i, p. 39; cf. Appendix G to this volume). For the exposure of this mistake see Herald and Genealogist, Vol. iv, p. 149. "Rosmar" is an error for Roumare (Normandy), which was not a comté (cf. ante, Vol. vii, sub Lincoln); but the statement that Edward was brother of Gerold de Roumare, though apparently accepted by Nichols, Arch. Inst., Salisbury Vol., 1849, p. 213, and in the 1st edition of this work, is baseless.(e) By her he had issue, besides his son and heir, a daughter Maud, who m. Humphrey de Bohun II, at the instance (it is said) of William II.--------------------Leo van de Pas, citing ES, has Leonia of Salisbury as daughter of a person named "Edward of Salisbury" by Adelize de Rames, by which Leonia inherited Rames. I assume that this is the same Edward of Salisbury, although Leonia would be a very late daughter. Cheryl Varner, World Connect db=:2753682, made the same assumption. Many of the early Norman Conquerors seemed to have children at very late times in their lives (Hugh "Lupus" d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester is another who seemed to have numerous late children). Either this was a lack of good records at this early period, or the middle aged conquerors set about establishing new English families late in life, and enjoyed their tremendous new-found wealth.

EDWARD OF SALISBURY, styled also Edward the Sheriff, whose parentage isunknown (b), was born ante 1060, it is said in England. He was sheriff ofWiltshire so early as February 1080/1. In 1086 he held in chief 33 manorsin Wilts, as well as smaller estates in Surrey, Hants, Dorset, Somerset,Middlesex, Bucks, Oxfordshire and Herts, being styled in D.B. "EdwardusSarisburiensis." He survived the Conqueror. He m. Unknown of whom nothingis known (e). [Complete Peerage XI:373-4, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

[b] According to the Book of Lacock, he was the son of Walter le Ewrus,Earl of Rosmar, a fictitious person, and brother of Gerold, Earl ofRosmar, born in Normandy before the Conquest (Dugdale, Mon., Vol. vi, p.501). The nickname "le Ewrus" [=I'heureux, or the fortunate) wasconverted into "de Evreux" by later writers, with the result that thefamily has been given the name of Devereux and has been tacked on to theNorman Counts of Evreux (see the tabular pedigree given by Planché,Journal of the Brit. Arch. Ass., Vol. i, p. 39; cf. Appendix G to thisvolume). For the exposure of this mistake see Herald and Genealogist,Vol. iv, p. 149. "Rosmar" is an error for Roumare (Normandy), which wasnot a comté (cf. ante, Vol. vii, sub Lincoln); but the statement thatEdward was brother of Gerold de Roumare, though apparently accepted byNichols, Arch. Inst., Salisbury Vol., 1849, p. 213, and in the 1stedition of this work, is baseless.

(e) By her he had issue, besides his son and heir, a daughter Maud, whom. Humphrey de Bohun II, at the instance (it is said) of William II.

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Leo van de Pas, citing ES, has Leonia of Salisbury as daughter of aperson named "Edward of Salisbury" by Adelize de Rames, by which Leoniainherited Rames. I assume that this is the same Edward of Salisbury,although Leonia would be a very late daughter. Cheryl Varner, WorldConnect db=:2753682, made the same assumption. Many of the early NormanConquerors seemed to have children at very late times in their lives(Hugh "Lupus" d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester is another who seemed tohave numerous late children). Either this was a lack of good records atthis early period, or the middle aged conquerors set about establishingnew English families late in life, and enjoyed their tremendous new-foundwealth.

Name Suffix: Sheriff of Salisbury
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Ancestral File Number: 9251-WQ
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Edward of Salisbury
± 1060-1130

(1) 
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(2) 1090

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Quellen

  1. Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, John Carmi Parsons, 24 Feb 1999
  2. Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Edward of Salisbury
  3. Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XI:373-4
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