Genealogie Wylie » Eve (Eva) FitzWarin (± 1179-????)

Persönliche Daten Eve (Eva) FitzWarin 

• Sie ist geboren rund 1179 in Whittington, Oswestry, Shropshire, England.
• Ein Kind von Fulk II FitzWarin und Hawise de Dinan
• Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 10. April 2023.

Familie von Eve (Eva) FitzWarin

(3) Sie war verwandt mit Oliver de Tracy.

Kind(er):

1. Henry de Tracy  ± 1200-???? 
2. Eve (Emme) de Tracy  ± 1205-???? 

(4) Sie ist verheiratet mit Thomas de Londres.

Sie haben geheiratet nach 1210 in 2nd husband.Quelle 3

Kind(er):

1. Hawise de Londres  ± 1218-1274 

Notizen bei Eve (Eva) FitzWarin

NOTE: Many genealogists thought that Eva/Eve was a daughter of Matthew deTorrington, as exemplified by the post to SGM below:

Thomas de Tracy's father can be readily identified as being Henry deTracy (died 1274), Baron of Barnstaple, Devon, which Henry was the sonand heir of Oliver de Tracy (died 1210), of Barnstaple, Devon, by Eve,probable daughter and co-heiress of Matthew de Torrington. [DouglasRichardson, soc.genealogy.medieval, 1 Dec 2004]

HOWEVER further research by Douglas Richardson indicates that Eva/Eve wasa daughter of Fulk FitzWarin, as given below:

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
From: "Douglas Richardson (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)" ((XXXXX@XXXX.XXX))
Date: 27 Jan 2005 23:25:36 -0800
Local: Fri,Jan 28 2005 2:25 am
Subject: Re: Ancestry of Thomas de London, lord of Kidwelly?

Dear Carolyn

Thank you for your good post.

In answer to your question, when I mentioned the evidence in the CuriaRegis Rolls which proved Eve's identity and parentage, I was speaking ofEve, daughter of Oliver de Tracy, NOT his wife, Eve. As I stated in myoriginal post, Eve de Tracy the daughter married Warin de Bassingbourne.The evidence to prove this marriage is found in Curia Regis Rolls. So,no I haven't changed my position on this marriage.

Regarding the senior Eve, wife of Oliver de Tracy and Thomas de London,it has commonly been thought that she was daughter and co-heiress ofMatthew de Torrington. This was thought probable, as Eve's son, Henry deTracy, is known to have had a one-fifth interest in the Torrington familyestates. However, in recent time, I've determined that Henry de Tracybought his share of the Torrington estates from one of the Torringtonheirs. This would necessarily exclude Henry's mother Eve from being oneof the Torrington heiresses.

My research indicates that Eve, widow of Oliver de Tracy and Thomas deLondon, was instead a probable daughter of Fulk Fitz Warin, ofWhittington, Shropshire, by his wife, Hawise de Dinan. Eve's maritagiumappears to have consisted of land in Westbury, Wiltshire, which propertyshe held under the Fitz Warin family. The name Eve runs in the FitzWarin family. Also, we know that Eve de Tracy had a daughter Hawise deLondon, presumably named in honor of her mother, Hawise de Dinan.Chronology, naming patterns, and land ownership are all agreeable.

If anyone has particulars which would shed further light on the FitzWarin-Tracy-London connection, I'd appreciate hearing from them here onthe newsgroup. Needless to say, this is a most interesting group offamilies. I imagine most posters here on the newsgroup descend fromthese people.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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