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Persönliche Daten Sir John de Gatesden of Wollaventon 

• Er wurde geboren im Jahr 1218 in Woolavington Manor, West Sussex, England.Quelle 8
• (Alt. Death) vor 10. April 1269.Quellen 6, 8
• Er ist verstorben vor 17. Oktober 1262.Quellen 7, 8
• Ein Kind von John de Gatesden
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Familie von Sir John de Gatesden of Wollaventon

Er ist verheiratet mit Havise de Courtenay.

Sie haben geheiratet rund 1246.Quellen 6, 8

Kind(er):

1. Margaret de Gatesden  1248-???? 

Notizen bei Sir John de Gatesden of Wollaventon

[Jim Weber.FTW]

The following is a post to soc.genealogy.medieval (Google Groups), by Ronnie Bodine on 8 Apr 1999:

JOHN de GATESDEN.  Died shortly before 10 April 1269, being then, according to his IPM, in possession of Wollaventon Manor and its advowson and other lands in co. Sussex (CIPM, 1: no. 706).
Married in or after 1246 to Hawise, daughter of Robert Courtenay and widow of John de Nevill, to whom Westcott Manor, Buckinghamshire had been granted in 1230 upon her marriage to Nevill.  In 1269, the King gave the wardship of 200 marks of John de Gatesden's lands and the marriage of his daughter and heir to Robert Walerand, saving the dower of Hawise his wife.  Hawise died possibly in 1269 (HKF, 3: 340).

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NOTE: Ronnie Bodine above DOES NOT place this John as the son of John in the mainline descent of the family, as I have portrayed it.  VCH Northampton below DOES place this John as I have portrayed it; thus I am following VCH Northampton.  However VCH Northampton does not explain how the manor of Cotes Bidun ended up with the presumed cousin John de Gatesden.  Ronnie Bodine assumes that the so-called cousin John de Gatesden is actually the son of John de Gatesden the elder; it is certainly open to question.  Perhaps VCH Northampton has it reversed, and this John de Gatesden is the cousin, who might be descended from one of Adulf's other sons (Peter or Richard de Gatesden).

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From VCH - Northampton, vol IV, pp. 29-39:

John de Gatesden the younger married Hawise de Nevill, and died on St. Katharine's Day 1258, leaving as his heir his daughter Margaret.  She married Sir Ralph de Camoys and, secondly, Sir William Paynel; but the John de Gatesden who seems to have acquired the whole of the Bidun manor in Cotes before 1284 was presumably her cousin.  In 1284 he is said to have held it of the Earl of Lancaster, and Newton Bromswold (in co-parcenary with Richard de Croxton) of the heirs of Baldwin Wake; but on his death in 1296 the jury found that the manor of Cotes was also held of John Wake.  From: 'Parishes: Raunds', A History of the County of Northampton: Volume 4 (1937), pp. 29-39. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66310. Date accessed: 20 September 2008.

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