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Persönliche Daten Elsje "van der Merwe" Cloete 

• Spitzname ist van der Merwe.
• Sie ist geboren am 28. Februar 1654 in Kurfürstentum KölnGermany.

  Pass auf: Alter bei der Heirat (9. September 1668) war unter 16 Jahre (14).

• Sie wurde getauft am 28. Februar 1655 in Katholisch Kirche, Ödt, Kurfürstentum Köln.
• Sie ist verstorben rund 22. Januar 1702Cape of Good Hope.
• Ein Kind von Jacob /Cloete SV und Feigen (Fytje) /Radergoertgens SM
• Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 5. November 2015.

Familie von Elsje "van der Merwe" Cloete

Sie ist verheiratet mit Willem Schalk /van der Merwe SV.

Sie haben geheiratet am 9. September 1668 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa, sie war 14 Jahre alt.

Kind(er):

1. Sophia Schalksz van der Merwe  ± 1670-± 1742 
2. Schalk Willemsz van der Merwe  1673-1740 
3. Maria van der Merwe  < 1675-1709 
4. Jacomina van der Merwe  ± 1678-± 1713
5. Jacob van der Merwe  ± 1680-????
6. Petronella van der Merwe  ± 1682-± 1717 
7. Aletta van der Merwe  < 1684-1729 
8. Helena 'Lena' van der Merwe  ± 1686-± 1721 
9. Pieter van der Merwe  ± 1688-????
10. Magdalena Magteld van der Merwe  ± 1690-1765 
11. Elsje van der Merwe  1693-1745 
12. Ilya (Ulya/Eula) van der Merwe  < 1696-????
13. Hendrik Willemsz van der Merwe  ± 1698-1762 

Notizen bei Elsje "van der Merwe" Cloete

Arrived at the Cape together with her mother and brother i n 1659

Arrived at the Cape together with her mother and brother i n 1659

Arrived at the Cape together with her mother and brother i n 1659

Ancestral File Number: b1

Ancestral File Number: b1

Stammoeder van die Van der Merwes

ORIGIN: Oldest child of pogenitor (b1)

{geni:occupation} Unknown

{geni:about_me} '''Jacob Cloete''' v. Keulen het waarskynlik reeds in 1652 na die Kaap
gekom. Hy was een v.d. eerste Vryburgers v. 10.8.1657. Hy kry op
10.10.1657 ‘n plasie aan die Liesbeekrivier. In 1671 is hy terug na
Europa, maar keer later as korporaal na die Kaap terug † 23.5.1693,
vermoor x Sophia (Fytje) RADEROOTJES v.d. Eifel (Keulen)

'''b2 Elsje''' * Europa gedoop 28 Februarie 1655 x 9.9.1668 Willem VAN DER MERWE

==Jacob van Oedt in ’t land van Köln==

''by Harry Booyens – Familia 2009 no 1'' (extract)

However, one is hard put to understand why there has to be this insistence on seeing Jacob as coming specifically from Köln Stadt, simply because he was listed as “Jacob Cloeten van Ceulen”. To this end, consider the 1665 muster roll entry for Fijtje where she is also described as “Fijtge Raderootjes van Keulen“. The “Ceulen” that was referred to in these 1660 notes, was simply the State of Köln, not Stadt Köln. It is more reasonable to look for Jacob’s birth in the town in the State of Köln where he was married.
'''Proceeding on the assumption that Jacob was likely to have married in the town in which he had been born, we find in the transcripts of the very same Oedt Catholic church books the following baptisms:'''

Father: '''Conrad(t) Klauten, sometimes called “Conradi”'''

Mother: '''Catharina No Name, sometimes called by the diminutive19 “Trein”'''

• Jennicken Klauten ≈ 5.3.1628, a diminutive20 name for “Johanna”

• Jacobus Klauten ≈ 11.11.1630, possibly the “Jacob Cloete” of the Cape

• Nehssgen Klauten ≈ 6.5.1635, a diminutive21 name for “Agnes”

• Joannes Klauten ≈ 18.4.1638

• Petrus Klauten ≈ 27.1.1641

• Adelheidis Klauten ≈ 31.12.1645

'''The above is more than likely the correct Oedt-based family for Jacob Cloete, and the following section serves to further support this conclusion''', but work to confirm this is still continuing in Germany. Gerrit and Elsje van Oedt in ’t land van Ceulen Having firmly settled on Oedt as the hometown of our Klauten family, we simply search in the Kirchenbücher of the St Vitus Catholic church in Oedt to find the following two baptisms:

Father: Jacobi Klauten

Mother: SOPHIAE; Katholisch, Oedt, Rheinland, Preussen.

• '''Godefridus Klauten''' Male ≈ 2.4.1651. This entry is referenced in the Bruehl archive as Ba 2010 fiche 3/6 p79. The name Godefridus is merely a Latinised version of Gottfried. In the Niederrhein area Gottfried is often reduced22 to “Gört” or “Göert”; hence the son '''“Gerrit”''' we know at the Cape. The witnesses to this baptism are two unknown people, namely Andreas Entgens en Metges Pauli.

• '''Adelheidis Klauten''' Female ≈ 28.2.1655. This entry is referenced in the Bruehl archive as Ba 2010 Fiche 3/6 p90. In the Niederrhein the name Adelheid is often reduced23 to Eltgen; hence the daughter '''“Elsjen”''' (Dutch) we know at the Cape. The witnesses to this baptism are Petrus Sax en Agnes Klauten. It seems reasonable to conclude that the second witness was none other than Jacob’s younger sister “Nehssgen”.

These are clearly the two children who came to the Cape with Fijtje on 16 March 1659 on the Arnhem. There are no further children baptised by the couple after 28 February 1655 in that church. All of this is completely consistent with Jacob leaving for the Cape at some point after 28 February 1655. It does mean, however, that both De Villiers24 and Heese25 have the wrong indexing for the family Cloete, and that the De Villiers numbers of Gerrit and Elsjen have to be swapped around. “Gerrit” (Göert) is b1 and “Elsjen” (Eltgen) is b2.

The full document has been attached under media (documents) (cloete familia 2009 no1 – Harry Booyens)

See also:

[http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g5/p5323.htm]

Hierdie is een ding wat ek voel ons moet oor saamstem - Elsje "Jacobsdogter/Jacobsdg/ Cloeten.
Die middelste staan doodeenvoudig vir die dogter van Jacobus.

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Elsje Jacoba CLOETE
*Arrived together with her mother and brother in 1659
*'Gebore in Europa'''
*Christening: 1651 On Board Europa

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'''Children'''
# Aletta VAN DER MERWE b: 1684 in c: 30 Mar 1684 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa
# Schalk VAN DER MERWE b: 1673 c: 13 Aug 1673
# Elisabeth Schalk VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1693 in Cape, S.A. c: 1692 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa
# Maria (Marietje) Willemse Schalk VAN DER MERWE b: 1675 c: 29 Dec 1675
# Petronella VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1698
# Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE b: 14 Jul 1673 in Kaapstad, Cape, South Africa c: 13 Aug 1673 in Kaapstad, Cape, South Africa
# Magtilt (Magdalena) VAN DER MERWE b: Between 1689-1691
# Sophia VAN DER MERWE
# Elsie VAN DER MERWE b: Between 1690-1695
# Maria VAN DER MERWE b: 29 Dec 1675 in , , C.P., South Africa c: 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa
# Magdalena VAN DER MERWE b: 1691 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa c: 1690 in Cape Town, , So Afr
# Jacoba VAN DER MERWE
# Jacob VAN DER MERWE
# Helena VAN DER MERWE b: 1686 in Cape Town, So Afr c: 7 Apr 1686 in Cape Town, So Afr
# Pieter VAN DER MERWE
# Eula VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1694 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa
# Hendrik VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1696 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa

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Gebore in Europa

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Christening: 1651 On Board Europa

Children

Aletta VAN DER MERWE b: 1684 in c: 30 Mar 1684 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa

Schalk VAN DER MERWE b: 1673 c: 13 Aug 1673

Elisabeth Schalk VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1693 in Cape, S.A. c: 1692 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa

Maria (Marietje) Willemse Schalk VAN DER MERWE b: 1675 c: 29 Dec 1675

Petronella VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1698

Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE b: 14 Jul 1673 in Kaapstad, Cape, South Africa c: 13 Aug 1673 in Kaapstad, Cape, South Africa

Magtilt (Magdalena) VAN DER MERWE b: Between 1689-1691

Sophia VAN DER MERWE

Elsie VAN DER MERWE b: Between 1690-1695

Maria VAN DER MERWE b: 29 Dec 1675 in , , C.P., South Africa c: 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa

Magdalena VAN DER MERWE b: 1691 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa c: 1690 in Cape Town, , So Afr

Jacoba VAN DER MERWE

Jacob VAN DER MERWE

Helena VAN DER MERWE b: 1686 in Cape Town, So Afr c: 7 Apr 1686 in Cape Town, So Afr

Pieter VAN DER MERWE

Eula VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1694 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa

Hendrik VAN DER MERWE b: Abt 1696 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa

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Elsje Jacoba CLOETE

Arrived together with her mother and brother in 1659

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===Founder Couple Diseases: Parkinsons; Schizophrenia etc - Research points to Willem & his Wife Elsje===
*http://academic.sun.ac.za/Health/Media_Review/2014/2Jun14/files/Identification.pdf
*http://www.samj.org.za/index.php/samj/article/view/8390/5992
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Arrived at the Cape on 16 March 1659 on The Arnhem.

{geni:marriage_order} 1

In 1678 het Elsje Cloete vir die Khoikhoi Quisa en sy medegevangenes met voedsel en tabak voorsien al het sy geweet dat hulle ontsnap het.
Elsie se vader Jacob Cloete word in 1693 naby die Kasteel vermoor. Die Goewerneur beskrywe die voorval soos volg: "Deesen avon tusschen 8 a 9 uren is niet verre van casteel en bij't vleeschhuis vermoort Jacob Cloeten, corporaal in dienst der E. Compagnie"
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BIRTH: * ca. 1649

aank. saam met haar moeder en broer in 1659; Vertrokken met attestasie na Stellenbosch ong 1716 en op 9.11.1725 weer lidmaat in Paarl; sy is bekend as Elsje Jacobs - m. a.w. d.v. Jacob Cloete

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