Kind(er):
Nibelung IV, comte du Vexin
Gender:
Male
Birth:
between 810 and 820
Death:
after circa 879
Immediate Family:
Son of Nibelung III, comte de Bourgogne
Father of Theodoric I, comte du Vexin and daughter of Count Nibelung IV?
https://www.geni.com/people/Nibelung-IV-comte-du-Vexin/6000000018070130163
Nibelung IV, comte du Vexin is your 33rd great grandfather.
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http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_ftn559
Settipani reconstructs possible family relationships between the individuals named Nibelung and Childebrand who are recorded in documentation in the 8th and 9th centuries. The onomastic connection is obvious, given these unusual names. However, there are too many variables, including the possibility of family relationships through cognatic as well as agnatic lines, for such a reconstruction to be meaningful. ဦ
5. [--- . m ---.] [Two possible children]:
a) [NIBELUNG [IV] ([810/20]-after 879). Settipani suggests that Nibelung [IV] was the son of Nibelung [III] but the time span between the only mention of the latter (in 818) and the last mention of the former (879) appears too long for them to have been father and son. Nibelung [IV]'s birth date range is estimated on the basis of his being active in service of the king in early adulthood in 843, and his last known mention in 879. Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks granted property "in pago Otisioderinse seu Wastinense·Ä¶curtem·Ä¶Hermoldi super fluvium Betus·Ä¶villa·Ä¶Villasallum" to "fidelis nostro·Ä¶Nivelongo" by charter dated 843[357]. A document issued by Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks dated Nov 853 names "Hugo, Gozso, Nivilungus" as missi in "Niverniso, Alciodriso, Avaliso"[358]. Comte in Vexin: Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks donated property "in pago Vulcassino·Ä¶Pontisarâ¶" to the abbey of Saint-Denis with the consent of "Nivelongo comite", by charter dated 864[359]. "Heccardus comes" names "·Ä¶Nivelongo atque Theoderico germano suo" among the executors of his testamentary disposition dated to [Jan 876][360]. Nibelung [IV]'s estimated birth date range as shown above is consistent with his belonging to the same generation as Ekkehard and his brothers, maybe their first cousin. Nibelung subscribed a charter of comte Adelramm, maybe his son-in-law, dated 879[361].
m ---. The name of the wife of Nibelung [IV] is not known.] Nibelung [IV] & his wife had [three] children:
i) THEODERIC [VIII] . Theoderic [VIII] & his wife had [one child]:
(a) [daughter. Settipani suggests[363] this affiliation for the wife of Pâ©pin in view of the transmission of land in the Vexin to his descendants. m (before [845]%29 PEPIN, son of BERNARD I King of Italy & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).]
ii) ADHEMAR . "Heccardus comes" names "ဦTherico filio NivelongoဦAdemare fratre suoဦ" among the beneficiaries under his testamentary disposition dated to [Jan 876][364].
iii) [--- . Settipani speculates that the wife of Adelramn [II] was the daughter of Nibelung [IV] because of the transmission of the name Theoderic to one of the couple's probable sons and the apparent transmission of Vexin, previously held by Nibelung [IV], to their son Adelramn [III][365]. m ADELRAMN [II], son of ---.]
b) [THEODERIC [VII] . "Heccardus comes" names "ဦNivelongo atque Theoderico germano suo" among the executors of his testamentary disposition dated to [Jan 876][366].]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counts_of_the_Vexin
The county of the Vexin was a medieval French county that was later partitioned between the Vexin Franâßais (French Vexin) and the Vexin Normand (Norman Vexin).
Nibelungs
864-after 879 Nibelung IV https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibelung_IV
Theodoric I, his son
886 Adelram III and Theodoric II, defenders of Pontoise, nephews of Theodoric I
References
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibelung_IV Cites
1. Settipani 1993, p. 352.
2. « Carolingian nobility (Nibelung IV) » archive.
Lâ©on Levillain, ¬´ Les Nibelungen historiques et leur alliances de famille ¬ª, Annales du Midi, vol. 49,·Äé 1937, p. 337-408.
Lâ©on Levillain, ¬´ Les Nibelungen historiques et leur alliances de famille (suite) ¬ª, Annales du Midi, vol. 50,·Äé 1938, p. 5-66.
Christian Settipani, La Prâ©histoire des Capâ©tiens (Nouvelle histoire gâ©nâ©alogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), Villeneuve-d'Ascq, â©d. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993, 545 p. (ISBN 978-2-95015-093-6).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counts_of_the_Vexin
Nibelungs
·Ä¢864-after 879 Nibelung IV
·Ä¢Theodoric I, his son
·Ä¢886 Adelram III and Theodoric II, defenders of Pontoise, nephews of Theodoric I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibelung_IV
Nibelung IV was a Frankish noble and Count of the Vexin in the ninth century from the Nibelungid family.
Life
Nibelung was born around the year 810 to Nibelung III. He is mentioned in 843 as being in Valenciennes among the followers of Charles the Bald. The latter sent him in 853 with Hugh and Gauzbert as missi dominici responsible for inspecting the three counties of Nevers, Avallon and Auxerre. Nibelung is most likely to have taken charge of Avallon.[1]
Charles the Bald entrusted him with the County of the Vexin in 864. He then appears in 868 at a royal court, in 877 as executor of his first cousin Echard and in 879 in a charter of Count Adelram II.[2]
From an unknown wife he had three children: Theodoric, Adhemar and a daughter of an unknown name married to Adelram II and the mother of Adelram III.
References
1Lâ©on Levillain, "The historical Nibelungen and their family alliances", Annales du Midi, Vol. 49, 1937, p.337-408
2Christian Settipani, The Prehistory of the Capetians (New genealogical history of the august house of France, Vol.1, 1993, p.545
The Nibelungids were a Frankish noble family descended from Childebrand, the younger full brother of Charles Martel.
They formed a cadet branch, alongside the Carolingians, of the Arnulfing·àíPippinid house. The dynasty got its name from Childebrand's heir, Nibelung I ("The Historian").
Childebrand's immediate descendants held the County of the Vexin in the 9th century. The relationships between the various Childebrands and Nibelungs of the period are rarely attested in primary sources, leaving it to genealogists, prosopographers, and onomasticists to piece together possible lines of descent. It has been suggested that they were related to the family of William of Gellone and to the Counts of Autun, from which may have descended Ringard, the wife of Pepin II of Aquitaine.
The early Nibelungids were patrons of the continuation of the Chronicle of Fredegar, which is indicated in the Austrasian and Arnulfing emphasis in the continuation, as distinct from the Burgundian outlook of the original chronicle.
References
·Ä¢Levillain, L. "Les Nibelungen historiques et leurs alliances de famille." Annales du Midi, 49 (1937) 337·Äì407.
·Ä¢Richâ©, Pierre. Les Carolingiens, une famille qui fit l'Europe. 1983.
·Ä¢Le Jan, Râ©gine. Famille et pouvoir dans le monde franc (VIIe-Xe siâ®cle). Publications de la Sorbonne: Paris, 1995.
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