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Persönliche Daten Wiltrud Waldrada 

• Sie ist geboren im Jahr 801 in Orl√©ans (Present d√©partement du Loiret), Neustrie (Present France), Frankish Empire.
• Sie ist verstorben nach 830 in Worms, Wormsgau (Rhine valley between Worms and Koblenz, present Rheinland-Pfalz), Austrasia (Present Germany), Frankish Empire.
• Sie wurde begraben in France.
• Ein Kind von Adrien of Orl√©ans und Waldrada von Hornbach
• Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 25. März 2021.

Familie von Wiltrud Waldrada

Sie ist verheiratet mit Robert III de Wormsgau (de Troyes).

Sie haben geheiratet.

Kind(er):

1. Eudes I Odo I de Troyes  ± 829-± 871 

• Das Paar hat gemeinsame Vorfahren.



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Wiltrud
Gender:
Female
Birth:
801
Orléans, (Present département du Loiret), Neustrie (Present France), Frankish Empire
Death:
Worms, Wormsgau (Rhine valley between Worms and Koblenz, present Rheinland-Pfalz), Austrasia (Present Germany), Frankish Empire
Place of Burial:
France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Adrien, count of Orléans and Waldrada
Wife of Robert III, comte de Wormsgau
Mother of Guntram, 4th Count in Wormsgau; Oda Wormsgau, Countess; Eudes I, comte de Troyes; Robert "Rodbert"; Adalhelm de Laon; NN and Wildrut ¬´ less
Sister of Odo I, count of Orléans

Parents:
Father: Adrianus (d. before 821), possibly Comte d'Orleans
Mother: Waldrada (d. after 824) von Wormsgau (locale based on donation to Fulda of property in Castle Pingi in "pago Wormacense" in 821 for the soul of Adrianus)
Sibling:
Odo (d. 824/834), possibly Comte d'Orleans
Spouse: Robert III (d. 834), Graf im Wormsgau (c. 825)
Children:
1. Guntram, Graf im Wormsgau (fl. 837)
2. Rodbert (possibly Robert "le Fort", 815/820 - 866)
3. Oda, wife of Walacho/Walo, Graf im Wormsgau
4. Adalelm I (d. after 870), father of Adalelm and Waltger (both of whom died in battle)
5. Wife of Megingoz I, Graf im Wormsgau (fl 876)
6. Wildrut, wife of Aledram, Comte de Troyes
7. Eudes (d. 871), Comte de Chateaudun/Troyes, Comte de Blois
Basic information and justifications:
Birth: c. 785, from German Wikipedia. Location unknown (Adrianus and her elder brother Odo are presumed to have been Comtes d'Orleans - Orleans would be as good a guess as any).
Wedding: Unknown date and place (not even birth dates of children with which to go on). German Wikipedia suggests 808 (possibly an estimate, as it doesn't cite a source).
Death: After 834 (date in which she was last mentioned in a donation charter). Location unknown - but possibly Worms.
Occupation: Gräfin im Wormsgau (c. 825). Note: she was never Queen of any kingdom, including Lorraine.
Alternative name: Wiltrude. However, Waldrada (the name of her mother) and Ermentrude should not be used as the name for this person. Calling these as aliases has been the source of considerable mis-merging in this area of the tree.
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Swabian Nobility (covering her birth family - note: Waldrada is her mother):
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#WiltrudMRobertIII
[ADRIANUS .
Adrian is named as son of Gerhard in a charter dated 793 which also names his germanus Erbio[332].]
Same person asဦ? ADRIANUS (-before 10 Nov 821). No proof has so far been found which confirms this co-identity. However, the name Adrianus was unusual at that time which indicates that it may be correct.
m WALDRADA, daughter of --- (-after 15 Feb 824).
"Uualtrat relicta Adriani" donated property "in castello Pingi in pago Wormacense" to Fulda by charter dated 10 Nov 821 with the consent of "Votoni comitis"[333]. "Uualtrat et Voto" donated property "in pago Wormacense in castello Pingna" to Fulda by charter dated 15 Feb 824, subscribed by "Albrichi comitis"[334].
Adrianus & his wife had two children:
i) ODO (-after 15 Feb 824).
"Uualtrat relicta Adriani" donated property "in castello Pingi in pago Wormacense" to Fulda by charter dated 10 Nov 821 with the consent of "Votoni comitis"[335]. "Uualtrat et Voto" donated property "in pago Wormacense in castello Pingna" to Fulda by charter dated 15 Feb 824[336]. Neither of these charters states that Odo was the son of Waldrada, but this is a fair assumption.
[Same person as ဦ? EUDES [Odo] (-killed in battle Jun 834). Comte d´Orléans.
Levillain identifies Odo, son of Waldrada, with Eudes Comte d'Orléans[337]. This seems unlikely to be correct as the name Guillaume/Wilhelm (brother of Eudes Comte d´Orléans) does not appear at all in the Udalrichinger family.]
---
ii) WILTRUD .
The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.
"Wialdruth et Guntram" donated property "in Buosinesheim" to Kloster Lorsch for the soul of "Rutperti comitis quondam viri mei" by charter dated 19 Feb 834[338].
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m ([808]) ROBERT [III] Graf im Wormsgau, son of ROBERT [II] Graf im Wormsgau und Oberrheingau & his first wife Theoderata (-before 19 Feb 834).
"Karolusဦaugustusဦimperator Romanumဦrex Francorum et Langobardorum" issued a judgment by charter dated 8 Mar 812 which names "fidelibus nostri: Gerulfus, Guntlandus, Hedo, Armannus, Hamricus, Sicardus, Rotbertus comitibusဦAmalricus comiti palatii nostro"[339].
References:
[332] Codex Laureshamensis, no. 936, cited in Jackman (1997), p. 126.
[333] Fulda 395, p. 178.
[334] Fulda 429, p. 192.
[335] Fulda 395, p. 178.
[336] Fulda 429, p. 192.
[337] Levillain, L. 'Les Nibelungen historiques et leurs alliances de famille' Annales du Midi 49 (1937) 337-407, 50 (1938) 5-66, 31-43, cited in Jackman (1997), p. 126.
[338] Codex Laureshamensis II, 271, p. 49.
[339] DD Kar. 1, 216, p. 288.
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility (covering her married life):
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#RobertIIIdied834
ROBERT [III], son of [ROBERT [II] & his first wife Theoderata ---] (-before 19 Feb 834).
The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. "Karolusဦaugustusဦimperator Romanumဦrex Francorum et Langobardorum" issued a judgment by charter dated 8 Mar 812 which names "fidelibus nostri: Gerulfus, Guntlandus, Hedo, Armannus, Hamricus, Sicardus, Rotbertus comitibusဦAmalricus comiti palatii nostro"[628].
Graf im Wormsgau. The Commemoratio Missis Data dated 825 [before Nov] names "ဦin MogontiaဦHeistulfus episcopus et Ruodbertus comesဦ"[629].
m ([808]) WILTRUD, daughter of ADRIANUS & his wife Waldrat.
"Wialdruth et Guntram" donated property "in Buosinesheim" for the soul of "Rutperti comitis quondam viri mei" by charter dated 19 Feb 834[630]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.
Robert [III] & his wife had [seven] children:
1. GUNTRAM (-837 or after).
"Wialdruth et Guntram" donated property "in Buosinesheim" for the soul of "Rutperti comitis quondam viri mei" by charter dated 19 Feb 834[631]. The document implies, but does not specifically state, that Guntram was the couple's son.
Graf im Wormsgau. 837.
2. ROBERT [Rodbert] .
Named for the first time in Germany in 836, "son of the late Rodbert Graf von Wormsgau", as the donor of property at Mettenheim[632], although the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified.
Same person asဦ? ROBERT "le Fort" ([815/20]-killed in battle Brissarthe 2 Jul 866).
No definite proof has so far been identified of the co-identity of Robert "le Fort" with the son of Robert Graf im Wormsgau. No primary source has yet been found which points specifically towards this suggested co-identity, although it is consistent with the Franconian origin referred to by the Annales Xantenses and by Widukind, noted above. It is assumed that the suggestion is based primarily on onomastics, although the first secondary source which proposed the connection has not yet been identified and therefore has not been not checked.
The author in question may also have assumed that Robert was a unique name among noblemen in France in the first half of the 9th century, although this ignores Robert Seigneur [comte] à Sesseau en Berry, who was the possible brother of the wife of Pepin I King of Aquitaine.
The timing of the supposed arrival of Robert from Franconia, assuming that the co-identity is correct, is not ideal either. Robert would presumably have fled Germany after opting to support Charles II လle Chauveဝ King of the West Franks in the latter´s fight against his brother Ludwig II "der Deutscheဝ King of the East Franks. This dispute is dated to 858/59: King Ludwig invaded in Aug 858, when King Charles was faced with widespread rebellion, and was defeated in Jan 859.
However, Robert "le Fort" is already named as missus in Maine, Anjou and Touraine in Nov 853, in a document issued by King Charles II[633] (unless of course this document refers to Robert Seigneur [comte] à Sesseau, which is not impossible).
3. [ODA .
The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.
m WALACHO [Walo] Graf im Wormsgau, son of --- (-before 891).]
4. [ADALELM [I] (-after 6 Mar 870).
Regino names "Waltgerius comes, nepos Odonis regis, filius scilicet avunculi eius Adalhelmi in Aquitanien" when recording his battle against "Ramnulfum et fratrem eius Gozbertum et Ebulonem abbatum de sancto Dionysio " in Jul 892[634].
The primary source which confirms that Adalelm [I] was the son of Robert [III] has not yet been identified. If "avunculus" is used in its strict sense in this text, it is possible that Adalelm [I] was a maternal relative of Eudes King of France rather than the brother of Eudes's father.
An agreement dated 6 Mar 870 between Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks and his brother Ludwig II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks names "Ingelramnus comes" as representative of the former and, as present, "Adalelmus comes, Ingelramnus comes, Liutfridus comes, Theodericus comes, item Adalelmus comes"[635].]
m ---. The name of Adalelm's wife is not known.
Adalelm [I] & his wife had [two] children: Adalelm II (d. 886 at the Battle of Paris), and Waltger (d. 892 in battle against Ramnulf)
5. [daughter .
The origin of the wife of Megingoz [I] is not known with certainty.
She may have been the daughter of Robert [III] Graf im Wormsgau & his wife Wiltrud ---, as indicated by the charter dated 876 under which Graf Megingoz, with his nepos Odo, donated property at Mattenheim. Settipani identifies Odo with the future Eudes King of France[640], suggesting that either Megingoz [I] himself or his wife was closely related to the Rotbertiner family.
This hypothesis appears corroborated by Megingoz [II], probable son of Megingoz [I], being described as nepos of King Eudes in 892 by Regino[641]. Jackman suggests that the wife of Megingoz [I] was named ROTLIND, whose name is closely associated with the family in the Memorial book of Remiremont[642].
However, it is also possible that Megingoz's relationship to King Eudes was more remote that "uncle" or that he was a maternal relative of the king.
m MEGINGOZ [I] Graf im Wormsgau, son of [ADALBERT & his wife ] (-after 876). However, it is also possible that Megingoz's relationship to King Eudes was more remote than "uncle" or that he was a maternal relative of the king.]
6. [WILDRUT .
Jackman suggests that the wife of Aledram [I] Comte de Troyes was the daughter of Robert [III], the name Wildrut appearing in a Reichenau memorial book[643].
m ALEDRAM [I] Comte [de Troyes], son of ---.]
7. [EUDES (-1 Aug 871).
According to Edouard de Saint-Phalle, Eudes was the brother of Robert "le Fort", ancestor of the Capetian dynasty[644], but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified.
Comte de Ch√¢teaudun, later Comte de Troyes.
Comte de Blois.]
References:
[628] DD Kar. 1, 216, p. 288.
[629] MGH Capitularia I, 151, p. 308.
[630] Codex Laureshamensis II, 271, p. 49.
[631] Codex Laureshamensis II, 271, p. 49.
[632] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 399, which does not cite the source reference.
[633] Karoli II Conventus Silvacensis, Missiဦet pagiဦ 8, MGH LL 1, p. 426.
[634] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 604.
[635] Hludowici Germ. et Karoli II Pacto, Aquensis, MGH LL 1, p. 516.
[640] Settipani (1993), p. 402.
[641] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 604.
[642] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 40.
[643] Jackman (1997), p. 123.
[644] Saint-Phale, E. de 'Comtes de Troyes et de Poitiers au IX siècle, histoire d'un double échec', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), p. 156, citing Merlet, R. 'Les comtes de Chartres, de Blois, et de Châteaudun aux 9e et 10e siècles', Mémoires de la Société archéologique d'Eure et Loir, XII (1895/1900), pp. 64-7.
From the German Wikipedia entry:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiltrud_von_Orl%C3%A9ans
Wiltrud von Orl√©ans (auch Waldrada, Wialdrudt, Wialdruth; * um 785) war die Tochter des Grafen Hadrian von Orl√©ans (* um 760; ·Ä† 822) und dessen Gemahlin Waldrat aus dem Geschlecht der Widonen. Zwei ihrer Enkel, Odo und Robert wurden Könige des Westfrankenreichs.
Im Jahre 808 heiratete sie Rutpert III. (Robert III.), Graf im Oberrheingau und im Wormsgau aus dem Haus der Rupertiner. Sie selbst erbte reichen Besitz in Orléans, der 840 ihrem Sohn Robert dem Tapferen nach dessen Wechsel aus dem Herrschaftsbereich Ludwigs des Deutschen in den von Karl dem Kahlen als Basis seines Aufstiegs im Westfränkischen Reich diente.
Ihr Mann Rutpert (* um 781) starb spätestens 834; in diesem Jahr ist eine zu seinem Seelenheil gemachte gemeinsame Schenkung seiner Witwe und seines Sohnes Guntram an die Abtei Lorsch beurkundet.
Nachkommen
Rutpert und Wiltrud hatten folgende Kinder, die das Erwachsenenalter erreichten:
1. Oda heiratete Walaho IV., der nach 840 Graf im Wormsgau wurde; die beiden wurde vermutlich die Stammeltern der Salier.
2. Guntram (815·Äì837) war 834·Äì837 Graf im Wormsgau.
3. Eine Tochter unbekannten Namens heiratete Megingoz I., der 876 als Graf im Wormsgau bezeugt ist.
4. Robert der Tapfere (·Ä† 866), dessen Söhne Odo und Robert Könige des Westfrankenreichs wurden.
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In English:
Wiltrud of Orleans (also Waldrada, Wialdrudt, Wialdruth, born 785) was the daughter of Graf Hadrian von Orleans (Adrien Comte d'Orleans, b. c. 760, d. 822) and his wife Waldrat from the House of Widonen. Two of her grandsons, Odo and Robert, became kings of West Francia.
In the year 808, she married Robert III, Graf von Worms and Wormsgau from the House of the Robertians. They came into possession of several lands near Orleans, which in 840 became the base from which Robert The Strong would leave the lands of Louis the German and Charles the Bald to rise up within the kingdom of Western Francia.
Her husband, Robert of Worms (b. c 781) died later than 834, and during that year, she and her son Guntram made a donation toward the salvation of Robert's soul at the Lorsch Abbey.
Progeny:
Wiltrud of Worms (c. 785) had the following children who reached adulthood:
1. Oda, who married Walaho IV, who after 840 became the Count in Wormsgau; the two were probably ancestors of the Salian.
2. Guntram (815-837) was 834-837 the Graf im Wormsgau.
3. An unknown daughter who married Megingoz I, who testified as a Graf im Wormsgau in 876.
4. Robert Le Fort (d. 866), whos sons Odo and Robert became kings of Western Francia.
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Weblinks
Robert III., Graf im Oberrheingau, bei Genealogie Mittelalter
http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/robertiner_rupertiner/robert_3_graf_im_oberrheingau_vor_834.html

From the English Wikipedia page on Waldrada of Worms (accessed 22 December 2010):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada_of_Worms
Waldrada of Worms (aka, Waldraith of Toulouse (801-?) was the second wife of Conrad II, Duke of Transjurane Burgundy. They had two known children:
1. Adelaide of Auxerre and
2. Rudolph I of Burgundy.
She was first married to Robert III of Worms, in 819 in Wormgau, Germany. This marriage brought in 820 a son, Robert IV the Strong. The marriage ended when Robert III died in 822.
Some say her father was Saint William of Gellone. However, this may be unlikely.
It is also unlikely that she is the wife of Conrad. While having been born supposedly between 790 and 801, she certainly could have been William's daughter, these dates are likely not accurate if she was also Conrad's wife. This is because her progeny with Conrad were born ca. 849 and 859, respectively. If these dates are accurate, then Waldrada had these children between the ages of 49 and 59 years old, at best. Given that menopause occurs in modern times between ages 45·Äì55, it is possible that she was Adelaide's mother.
Her being Rudolph's mother is more problematic.
What is more likely is that she and the wife of Conrad are two different people. One possible solution is that the Waldrada who married Conrad II and Robert III is the daughter of Waldrada, wife of Adrian, Count of Orléans (767-824), who may (key word) be the daughter of William of Gelone. This is all conjecture, however.
Sources
Familypedia page on Waldrada (compiled by Rtol - no sources referenced):
http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/Waldrada_(801-%3F)

From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Waldrada (Forr√°s / Source):
http://www.thepeerage.com/p886.htm#i8860
Waldrada (?)
F, #8860
Last Edited=18 Sep 2002
Child of Waldrada (?) and Conrad II, Comte d'Auxerre
-1. Rudolph I, Roi de Jurane Bourgogne+ d. 25 Oct 912

Waldrada was the mistress of Lothair II. She came from a noble family from the Meuse-Moselle region. See Lothair's profile for the story of his attempts to divorce his wife Theutberga and marry Waldrada.

Waldrada, widow (firstly) of Theudebald, King of Austrasia (ruled 548·Äì555), repudiated wife (secondly) of Chlothar I, King of the Franks (ruled c.558·Äì561), was the daughter of Wacho, King of the Lombards (ruled c.510·Äì539) and his second wife Ostrogotha, a Gepid.
The Origo Gentis Langobardorum names "Wisigardaဦsecundæ Walderada" as the two daughters of Wacho and his second wife, specifying that Waldrada married "Scusuald regis Francorum" and later "Garipald".[1]
The Historia Langobardorum names "Waldrada" as Wacho's second daughter by his second wife, specifying that she married "Chusubald rex Francorum".[2]
Paulus Diaconus names "Wisigardaဦ[et] secunda Walderada" as the two daughters of King Wacho & his second wife, specifying that Walderada married "Cusupald alio regi Francorum" and later "Garipald".[3]
Gregory of Tours names Vuldetrada as the wife of King Theodebald.[4]
Herimannus names "Wanderadam" wife of "Theodpaldus rex Francorum" when recording her second marriage to "Lotharius rex patris eius Theodeberti patruus".[5]
According to Gregory of Tours, King Clotaire "began to have intercourse" with the widow of King Theodebald, before "the bishops complained and he handed her over to Garivald Duke of Bavaria",[6] which does not imply that King Clotaire married Waldrada.
(Sources? There are six of them, but none of them are listed here.)

1 boy, 3 girls: Hugues, Prince of Lorraine, Gisela, Bertha, Ermengarde

Conrad II, Duke of Transjurane Burgundy
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He married Judith, daughter of Eberhard of Friuli, and later Waldrada of Worms, by whom he left a son, Rudolf, who later became King of Transjurane Burgundy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada_of_Worms

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada_of_Worms
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Waldrada of Worms (aka, Waldraith of Toulouse (801-?) was the second wife of Conrad II, Duke of Transjurane Burgundy. They had two known children, Adelaide of Auxerre and Rudolph I of Burgundy.
She was first married to Robert III of Worms, in 819 in Wormgau, Germany. This marriage brought in 820 a son, Robert IV the Strong. The marriage ended when Robert III died in 822.
Some say her father was Saint William of Gellone. However, this may be unlikely. It is also unlikely that she is the wife of Conrad. While having been born supposedly between 790 and 801, she certainly could have been William's daughter, these dates are likely not accurate if she was also Conrad's wife. This is because her progeny with Conrad were born ca. 849 and 859, respectively. If these dates are accurate, then Waldrada had these children between the ages of 49 and 59 years old, at best. Given that menopause occurs in modern times between ages 45-55, it is possible that she was Adelaide's mother. Her being Rudolph's mother is more problematic.
What is more likely is that she and the wife of Conrad are two different people. One possible solution is that the Waldrada who married Conrad II and Robert III is the daughter of Waldrada, wife of Adrian, Count of Orléans (767-824), who may (key word) be the daughter of William of Gelone. This is all conjecture, however.

Sources
http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/Waldrada_(801-%3F)

Viltuda Orleanskaya or Wiltrude d'Orleans

Parents
ᙂ # Adrien d'Orléans [ Konradiner ] p. approx. 760? mind. 821
·ôÄ # Waldrada van Hornbach [ Hornbach ] p. est.. 770 mind. after 823
ROBERT [III], son of --- (-before 19 Feb 834). "Karolusဦaugustusဦimperator Romanumဦrex Francorum et Langobardorum" issued a judgment by charter dated 8 Mar 812 which names "fidelibus nostri: Gerulfus, Guntlandus, Hedo, Armannus, Hamricus, Sicardus, Rotbertus comitibusဦAmalricus comiti palatii nostro"[535]. Graf im Wormsgau. The Commemoratio Missis Data dated 825 [before Nov] names "ဦin MogontiaဦHeistulfus episcopus et Ruodbertus comesဦ"[536].
m ([808]) WILTRUD, daughter of ADRIANUS & his wife Waldrat. "Wialdruth et Guntram" donated property "in Buosinesheim" for the soul of "Rutperti comitis quondam viri mei" by charter dated 19 Feb 834[605]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Robertdied866A
Robert [III] & his wife had [seven] children:
1. GUNTRAM (-837 or after). "Wialdruth et Guntram" donated property "in Buosinesheim" for the soul of "Rutperti comitis quondam viri mei" by charter dated 19 Feb 834[606]. The document implies, but does not specifically state, that Guntram was the couple's son. Graf im Wormsgau. 837.
2. ROBERT [Rodbert] . Named for the first time in Germany in 836, "son of the late Rodbert Graf von Wormsgau", as the donor of property at Mettenheim[607], although the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. Same person asဦ? ROBERT "le Fort" ([815/20]-killed in battle Brissarthe 2 Jul 866). Robert IV "the Strong", Margrave of Neustria
3. [ODA . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.
m WALACHO [Walo] Graf im Wormsgau, son of --- (-before 891).]
4. [ADALELM [I] (-after 6 Mar 870). Regino names "Waltgerius comes, nepos Odonis regis, filius scilicet avunculi eius Adalhelmi in Aquitanien" when recording his battle against "Ramnulfum et fratrem eius Gozbertum et Ebulonem abbatum de sancto Dionysio " in Jul 892[609]. The primary source which confirms that Adalelm [I] was the son of Robert [III] has not yet been identified. If "avunculus" is used in its strict sense in this text, it is possible that Adalelm [I] was a maternal relative of Eudes King of France rather than the brother of Eudes's father. An agreement dated 6 Mar 870 between Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks and his brother Ludwig II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks names "Ingelramnus comes" as representative of the former and, as present, "Adalelmus comes, Ingelramnus comes, Liutfridus comes, Theodericus comes, item Adalelmus comes"[610].]
m ---. The name of Adalelm's wife is not known. Adalelm [I] & his wife had [two] children.
5. [daughter . The origin of the wife of Megingoz [I] is not known with certainty. She may have been the daughter of Robert [III] Graf im Wormsgau & his wife Wiltrud ---, as indicated by the charter dated 876 under which Graf Megingoz, with his nepos Odo, donated property at Mattenheim. Settipani identifies Odo with the future Eudes King of France[615], suggesting that either Megingoz [I] himself or his wife was closely related to the Rotbertiner family. This hypothesis appears corroborated by Megingoz [II], probable son of Megingoz [I], being described as nepos of King Eudes in 892 by Regino[616]. Jackman suggests that the wife of Megingoz [I] was named ROTLIND, whose name is closely associated with the family in the Memorial book of Remiremont[617]. However, it is also possible that Megingoz's relationship to King Eudes was more remote that "uncle" or that he was a maternal relative of the king.
m MEGINGOZ [I] Graf im Wormsgau, son of [ADALBERT & his wife ] (-after 876). However, it is also possible that Megingoz's relationship to King Eudes was more remote than "uncle" or that he was a maternal relative of the king.]
6. [WILDRUT . Jackman suggests that the wife of Aledram [I] Comte de Troyes was the daughter of Robert [III], the name Wildrut appearing in a Reichenau memorial book[618].
m ALEDRAM [I] Comte [de Troyes], son of ---.]
7. [EUDES (-1 Aug 871). According to Edouard de Saint-Phalle, Eudes was the brother of Robert "le Fort", ancestor of the Capetian dynasty[619], but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. Comte de Ch√¢teaudun, later Comte de Troyes. Comte de Blois.]

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