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• Er wurde geboren rund 1128 in Bretagne (Brittany) France.
• Alternative: Er wurde geboren rund 1138 in Bretagne (Brittany) France.Quelle 1
• Er ist verstorben am 20. Februar 1171 in Richmond Castle, Yorkshire, England.
• Er wurde beerdigt in B√©gard, C√¥tes-d'Armor, Bretagne, France.
• Ein Kind von Alan IV Fergant "Alan the Black" of Penthi√®vre of Brittany (de Penthi√®vre) und Bertha of Cornouaille of Brittany
• Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 14. November 2019.

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1. Constance Plantagenet-de Bretagne, Brittany  ± 1162-1201 

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Conan IV of Penthièvre
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 1128
Bretagne (Brittany) France
Death:
February 20, 1171 (39-47)
Richmond Castle, Yorkshire, , England
Place of Burial:
Bégard, Côtes-d'Armor, Bretagne, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Alan IV, 1st Earl of Cornwall and Richmond and Bertha, Duchess of Brittany
Husband of Margaret de Huntingdon, Princess of Scotland
Father of Constance, duchess of Brittany
Brother of Constance Alix de Penthièvre; Enoguen de Penthièvre and Robert "Brito" de Penthièvre
Half brother of Alix de Porhoët; Geoffrey de Porhoët; Adelaide de Porhoët, Abbess of Fontevrault; Brian I Fitzalan and Guy ou Guimar "Brito"

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Conan IV, Duke of Brittany
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Conan IV of Penthièvre (1138 ဓ February 20, 1171), (Breton: Konan V Penteur, and Konan Breizh) called "the Young", was duke of Brittany, from 1156 to his death.[1] He was son of Alan the Black, 1st Earl of Richmond and Bertha of Brittany. He was his mother's heir as Duke Conan III. From his fatherမs side, Conan was great great grandson of duke Geoffrey I and great grandson of Eudes of Brittany.[1] Conan and his daughter Constance would be the only representatives of the Penthièvre dynasty of Brittany.
With the death of his mother Bertha in early 1156, Conan IV expected to inherit the ducal throne.[1] However, he was denied his inheritance by his step-father Eudes, who refused to let go over his authority. Eudas may have entered into a pact with Hoel, Count of Nantes, to divide Brittany between them. But Hoel was under threat of rebellion in Nantes, sponsored by Geoffrey VI, Count of Anjou, and he could not send Eudas any aid. Within the year Conan IV was able to capture and imprison Eudas, and claim his inheritance.[1]
By 1158, Geoffrey VI, Count of Anjou died and Conan seized Nantes, reuniting the Duchy once again. However, Geoffrey's brother King Henry II of England, responded by seizing the Earldom of Richmond, Conan's paternal inheritance, and demanded the return of Nantes. Conan and Henry made peace, and Conan married Henry's cousin, Margaret of Scotland, in 1160.[1] Margaret was daughter of Henry of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon and Ada de Warenne, a daughter of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth de Vermandois.
Conan faced several revolts from his own nobles, rebellions possibly covertly supported by England. To put down the unrest, the Duke appealed for help to Henry, who, in return, demanded the betrothal of Conan·Äôs only daughter and heiress Constance to Henry's son Geoffrey Plantagenet.

References
Brittany Genealogy extracted Feb 1, 2008
The Bretons, by Patrick Galliou and Michael Jones, Oxford, 1991, p. 191. ISBN 0-631-16406-5






ALAIN de Cornoua√Ølle, son of HO√ãL Comte de Cornoua√Ølle & his wife Havise de Bretagne (-13 Oct 1119).¬â€  The Chronicon Briocensi names "Alanum, Mathiam et Benedictum" as the three children of "Hoellus·Ä¶ex Hadevisa uxore sua"[185].¬â€  The Flandria Generosa names "comes Alanus" son of "Havisis Namnetensis comitissa", when outlining the basis for the consanguinity between his daughter Havise and her husband Baudouin VII Count of Flanders which constituted grounds for the couple's separation[186].¬â€  "Constancius" donated property to the abbey of Redon with the consent of "Jedear uxore mea" and affirmed by "Hoel comes et Haduis comitissa, Alanus et Mathias et Eudo filii eorum" by charter dated before 1072[187].¬â€  "Berta comitissa Alani Redonensis ducis uxor" donated property to Sainte-Croix de Quimperl√©, for the souls of "filie nostre Hadeuis comitisse Hoelis ducis Britannie conjugis et·Ä¶filiorum suorum, meorum·Ä¶nepotum Alani et Mathie", by charter dated 1075, signed by "Alanus nothus filius Conani comitis, Vitalis et Gualterius Carnotenses, familiares comitisse Haduis neptis mee·Ä¶"[188].¬â€  He succeeded in 1084 as ALAIN IV "Fergant" Duke of Brittany.¬â€  "Alanus comes filius Hoeli comitis" confirmed the rights of the abbey of Sainte-Croix de Quimperl√© by charter dated 1084[189].¬â€  "Alano qui et Fergant, Hoeli filio, totius Britannie consule" donated property to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 1092[190].¬â€  He accompanied Robert III Duke of Normandy on the First Crusade[191].¬â€  Albert of Aix names "·Ä¶domnus Alens cognomine Fercans, Conans quoque, ambo principes Brittanorum·Ä¶" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[192].¬â€  He abdicated in [1114/16] in favour of his son, becoming a monk at the abbey of Redon: the Annals of St Salvator Redon record that "Alanus Fergent, ex Britonum duce rotonensis monachus, anno 1119 fato functus" was buried at the abbey of Redon[193].¬â€  The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1119 of "Alanus Fergent pater Conani"[194].¬â€  The Chronicon Kemperlegiensis records the death "III Id Oct" in 1119 of "Alanus Fergant junior filius Ho√´lis Comitis"[195].¬â€ 
m firstly (contract Caen, Bayeux [1086/88]) CONSTANCE of England, daughter of WILLIAM I "the Conqueror" King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre (Normandy [1057/1061]-13 Aug 1090, bur Church of St Melans near Rhedon).¬â€  Guillaume of Jumi√®ges names Constance as second daughter, naming her husband "Alanno Fergant comiti minoris Britanni√¶ filio...Hoelli" and specifying that she died childless[196].¬â€  Orderic Vitalis records that King William I arranged the marriage of "Constantiam filiam suam" and ·ÄúAlanno Ferganno·Äù at Caen (presumably indicating the finalisation of the marriage contract) and in a later passage that the couple were married at Bayeux[197].¬â€  Three different Breton sources record her marriage in different years.¬â€  The Chronicon Ruyensis C≈ìnobii records the marriage in 1086 of "Alanus" and "Constantiam filiam Regis Anglorum Guillelmi"[198].¬â€  The Chronicon Kemperlegiensis records the marriage in 1087 of "Alanus Ho√´li Consulis filius" and "Constantiam Guillelmi Regis Anglorum filiam"[199].¬â€  The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the marriage in 1088 of "Alanus" and "Constantiam filam Regis Guillelmi Anglorum"[200].¬â€  Orderic "Alanus dux Britannorum et Constantia uxor eius" donated property to the priory of Livr√© by charter dated 31 Jul 1089[201].¬â€  According to William of Malmesbury, "she excited the inhabitants [of Brittany] by the severity of her justice to administer a poisonous potion to her"[202].¬â€  Orderic Vitalis, on the other hand, says that she "did everything in her power to further the welfare of her subjects" and "was deeply grieved when she died"[203].¬â€  The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1090 of "Constantia Alani coniux·Ä¶sine liberis"[204].¬â€  The Chronicon Universum in the cartulary of Sainte-Croix de Quimperl√© records the death in 1090 of "Constantia comitissa filia regis Anglorum"[205].¬â€ 
m secondly ([1093]) as her second husband, ERMENGARDE d'Anjou, divorced wife of GUILLAUME IX Duke of Aquitaine [GUILLAUME VII Comte de Poitou], daughter of FOULQUES IV "le Rechin" Comte d'Anjou & his first wife Hildegarde de Baugency ([1068]-Jerusalem 1 Jun 1146, bur Redon).¬â€  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the daughter of "Fulco" as "comitissam Redonensem" but does not name her[206].¬â€  "Fulco Andegavensis comes" donated property to Angers with the consent of "filiis meis Gaufrido et Fulconello et filia mea Ermengarde" by charter dated 23 Jun 1096[207].¬â€  William of Tyre names her "Hermingerda", gives her father's name implying that she was born from his fifth marriage, and names her first husband "Pictaviensium comitis Willelmi", records her divorce and names her second husband "comes Brittani√¶"[208].¬â€  Orderic Vitalis records that "Fergannus comes" married ·Äúfiliam comitis Andegavorum·Äù after the death of his first wife[209].¬â€  The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum records that "comitissa Brittani√¶" was the daughter of Foulques and his first wife "filiam Lancelini de Baugenciaco", adding that she became a nun at "Jerusalem in ecclesia Sanct√¶ Ann√¶" after her husband died[210].¬â€  The Chronicon Briocensi records the marriage of "Alanus filius primogenitus [Hoelli]" and "Ermengardem filiam Comitis Andegavensis"[211].¬â€  "Fulco Andecavorum comes nepos Goffridi Martelli·Ä¶consulis" donated property to Angers with the consent of "Ermenjarde filia sua comitissa Brittani√¶" by charter dated 12 Apr 1109[212].¬â€  "Conanus·Ä¶Britania√¶ dux cum sorore mea Hidevis et matre mea Ermeniart" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Croix de Quimperl√© by charter dated 1118, which names "pater meus Alanus et avus Hoel et attavus Alanus"[213].¬â€  The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "Kal Jun" of "Ermengardis comitissa Britanni√¶ mater Conan ducis et soror Fulconis regis Hierosolymitani"[214].¬â€  The Annals of St Salvator Redon record that "Ermengardeque Alani conjugem, vere piam ac religiosam" was buried at the abbey of Redon[215].¬â€ 
Mistresses (1) - (2): ---.¬â€  The names of Duke Alain's mistresses are not known.¬â€ 
Duke Alain IV & his second wife had three children:¬â€ 
1.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  CONAN de Bretagne (-17 Sep 1148).¬â€  Orderic Vitalis names ·ÄúConanum·Äù as the son of "Fergannus comes" and his second wife ·Äúfiliam comitis Andegavorum·Äù[216].¬â€  The Chronicon Briocensi names "Conanum et Hazevisiam" as the two children of "Alanus filius primogenitus [Hoelli]" and his wife "Ermengardem filiam Comitis Andegavensis"[217].¬â€  William of Tyre records his parentage[218].¬â€  He succeeded on the abdication of his father in [1114/16] as CONAN III "Grossus/le Gros" Duke of Brittany.¬â€  "Conanus Britannorum dux" donated property to Saint-Nicolas d¬¥Angers by charter dated to [1129/36], which names "mater mea Ermengardis comitissa"[219].¬â€  The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1148 of "Conanus Dux Britanni√¶"[220].¬â€  The Chronicon Ruyensis C≈ìnobii records the death in 1148 of "Conanus Dux Britanni√¶ filius Alani et Ermengard√¶"[221].¬â€  The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "XV Kal Oct" of "Conanus dux et comes Britanni√¶" and his donation of "ecclesiam de Pinello" to the church of St Maurice[222].¬â€  m (1112 or before) MATILDA, illegitimate daughter of HENRY I King of England & his mistress --- (-after 1128).¬â€  Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis[223], in a later passage recording that the betrothal occurred before the alliance was agreed between Henry I King of England and Louis VI King of France, which is dated to 1113[224].¬â€  Guillaume de Jumi√®ges names Mathilde as illegitimate daughter of King Henry I and her husband "Conano comiti minoris Britanni√¶"[225].¬â€  "Alanus, Hoelli filius, comes totius Britannie et princeps" donated property to the abbey of Redon with the consent of "suorum filiorum Conani et Gaufridi, necnon et uxoris su√¶ Hermengardis et uxoris filii sui Conani, Mahalt" by charter dated 1112[226].¬â€  "Mathilda comitissa et Haduisa soror comitis Conani" signed the undated charter Duke Conan III donated a fishery to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[227].¬â€  "Ermengardis mater mea et uxor mea Matildis·Ä¶" signed the charter dated 1128 under which Duke Conan III confirmed the possessions of the monks of Saint-Melaine de Rennes[228].¬â€  Duke Conan III & his wife had [three] children:
a)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  HO√ãL de Bretagne (-1156).¬â€  The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1148 of "Conanus Dux Britanni√¶" and records that he had disinherited "Hoellus·Ä¶suum·Ä¶filium"[229].¬â€  "Hoelli filii comitis·Ä¶" signed the undated charter which records the judgment of the court of Duke Conan III relating to the rights of the monastery of Saint-Martin de Vertou[230].¬â€  Comte de Nantes 1148.¬â€  "Hoellus·Ä¶Britanni√¶ dux, Conani comitis filius" donated "terram·Ä¶Villa Nova" to the abbey of Buzai, with the consent of "sorore mea Berta comitissa", by charter dated 1153[231].¬â€  The Chronicon Briocensi records the death in 1156 of "Hoelli Ducis", although it does not specify that he was the son of Duke Conan III[232].¬â€ 
b)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  BERTHE de Bretagne (-[1158/64]).¬â€  The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1148 of "Conanus Dux Britanni√¶" and records that he had disinherited "Hoellus·Ä¶suum·Ä¶filium" and that he appointed as his successor "Eudone Vicecomite Porho√´tensi" who had married "sororem eius Bertam"[233].¬â€  Her first marriage is suggested by the Chronicon Kemperlegiensis which records the death in 1146 of "Alanus Niger, Conani Ducis gener"[234].¬â€  The undated record of an enquiry relating to the property rights of Henri d¬¥Avaugour states that "le comte Estienne" had three children ·ÄúGeffroi, Alain et Henri aieul de cest Henri ci-dessus·Äù, adding that Alain was sent to England, was ·Äúcomte de Richemont·Äù, and on his return married ·Äúla fille de Conan comte de Rennes·Äù[235].¬â€  m firstly ([1137]) ALAIN "le Noir" de Penthi√®vre, Lord of Richmond, son of ETIENNE de Bretagne Lord of Richmond & his wife Havise de Guingamp (before 1100-in Brittany 15 Sep 1146, bur B√©gard).¬â€  m secondly (1148 or before) as his first wife, EUDES Vicomte de Porho√´t, son of GEOFFROY Vicomte de Porho√´t & his wife Hawise --- (-after 1180).¬â€  He succeeded in 1148 as EUDES Duke of Brittany, by right of his wife.¬â€  Deposed by his stepson in 1156, he was taken prisoner by Raoul de Foug√®res. ¬â€ 
c)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [CONSTANCE de Bretagne (-1148).¬â€  Constance is shown in Europ√§ische Stammtafeln as the younger daughter of Duke Conan III, died 1148[236].¬â€  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.¬â€  The information has not therefore been verified.¬â€  m as his first wife, GEOFFROY de Mayenne, son of JUHEL Seigneur de Mayenne & his wife Cl√©mence de Ponthieu (-18 Feb or 25 Jul 1169).]¬â€ 
Duke Conan III had two [probably illegitimate] children [by unknown mistresses]:¬â€ 
d)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  AIMERIC (-after [1137]).¬â€  "·Ä¶Hamericus filius comitis·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated to [1137] under which Conan III Duke of Brittany donated property to Tiron abbey "mater mea Ermengardis comitissa"[237].¬â€ 
e)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  GUYOMAR (-after 1154).¬â€  "Guihummaro fratri Hohelli ducis Britannie, monacho Sancti Florentii" was granted the privilege of being associated with the spiritual benefits of the abbey by the abbot of Saint-Aubin d¬¥Angers, by charter dated 1154/57[238].¬â€  The date suggests that "Hohelli ducis Britannie" must have been the disinherited son of Duke Conan III.¬â€  If this is correct, it is probable that his brother Guyomar was illegitimate as there is no record in the primary sources of Duke Conan having a second legitimate son.¬â€  Monk at Saumur Saint-Florent.¬â€ 
2.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  HAVISE de Bretagne.¬â€  The Chronicon Briocensi names "Conanum et Hazevisiam" as the two children of "Alanus filius primogenitus [Hoelli]" and his wife "Ermengardem filiam Comitis Andegavensis"[239].¬â€  The Genealogica Comitum Flandri√¶ Bertiniana refers to the wife of "Balduinum comitem" as "filiam Alani Fregani comitis Brittani√¶", but does not name her[240].¬â€  The Flandria Generosa names "filiam Alani comitis Brittani√¶" as the wife of "Balduinus Inclitus", specifying that they were separated by Pope Pascal II on grounds of consanguinity[241].¬â€  "Conanus·Ä¶Britania√¶ dux cum sorore mea Hidevis et matre mea Ermeniart" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Croix de Quimperl√© by charter dated 1118, which names "pater meus Alanus et avus Hoel et attavus Alanus"[242].¬â€  "Mathilda comitissa et Haduisa soror comitis Conani" signed the undated charter Duke Conan III donated a fishery to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[243].¬â€  m (1110, divorced) BAUDOUIN de Flandre, son of ROBERT II Count of Flanders & his wife Cl√©mence de Bourgogne [Comt√©] (1093-Boulers 17 Jun 1119, bur Saint Bertin).¬â€  He succeeded his father in 1111 as BAUDOUIN VII Count of Flanders.¬â€ 
3.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  GEOFFROY "le Roux" de Bretagne (-Jerusalem 1116).¬â€  "Alanus, Hoelli filius, comes totius Britannie et princeps" donated property to the abbey of Redon with the consent of "suorum filiorum Conani et Gaufridi, necnon et uxoris su√¶ Hermengardis et uxoris filii sui Conani, Mahalt" by charter dated 1112[244].¬â€  The Chronicon Ruyensis C≈ìnobii records the death in 1116 of "puer filius Alani Comitis·Ä¶Gaufridus" at "apud Jerosolymam"[245], the word "puer" suggesting that he was much younger than his brother and sister.¬â€ 
Duke Alain IV had [two] illegitimate sons by Mistresses (1) - (2):¬â€ 
4.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  GUY [Guimar] .¬â€  Orderic Vitalis records that "Guiumar Brito filius Alanni comitis" was captured with Joscelin de Courtenay at the siege of Manbij and "held in fetters for a year"[246].¬â€  He and other captives were subsequently given to the Caliph of Baghdad, who freed them but with whom he stayed for "three and a half years and were greatly honoured" before returning to Antioch[247].¬â€ 
5.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [BRIEN [FitzCount] ([1090/1100]-after [1141/42]).¬â€  Domesday Descendants states that Brien was the illegitimate son of Alain IV Duke of Brittany[248], but the primary source which confirms that this is correct has not yet been identified.¬â€  According to the Complete Peerage, Brien FitzCount was the son of Alain "le Noir" de Penthi√®vre Lord of Richmond (who died in 1146) and his wife Berthe daughter of Conan III Duke of Brittany[249], but this is impossible from a chronological point of view.¬â€  He was raised by Henry I King of England[250].¬â€  "·Ä¶Brientio filio comitis·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated 1114 under which Henry I King of England granted the land of Roger de Worcester to Walter de Beauchamp[251].¬â€  "·Ä¶Brientio filio Comitis·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated 1126 under which Henry I King of England confirmed a donation to Worksop priory[252].¬â€  The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Brientio fil Com" in Oxfordshire (three entries), Wiltshire (three entries), Hampshire, and Surrey (twice)[253].¬â€  Lord of Wallingford, Berkshire de iure uxoris.¬â€  The Gesta Stephani Regis records that "Brianus filius Comitis" who had "Walengefordiam" rebelled against King Stephen, dated to [1140/42][254].¬â€  The sources which relate Brien¬¥s holding of the lordship of Abergavenny raise a difficult problem relating to his parentage.¬â€  The Historia fundationis cum fundatoris genealogia of the priory of Abergavenny which records that ·ÄúBrientio filio comitis de Insula, nepoti suo de sorore sua·Ä¶Lucia·Äù inherited the castle of Abergavenny after the death of ·ÄúHamelinus, frater Luci√¶ comitiss√¶ de Insula·Äù without heirs[255].¬â€  This is partially confirmed by the undated charter under which ·ÄúH. de Bellocampo·Äù confirmed donations to Abergavenny priory by ·Äúantecessores mei Hamelinus de Balon et Brientius filius comitis·Äù[256].¬â€  If this is correct, he was Brien, son of --- Comte de l¬¥Isle & his wife Lucia.¬â€  No trace has so far been found of the family of this alleged "Comte de l¬¥Isle".¬â€  The Complete Peerage takes the problem a stage further by suggesting that Brien was Lord of Abergavenny (from before 1119) maybe by right of his wife[257].¬â€  No other source has been identified which corroborates any family relationship between Hamon de Ballon Lord of Abergavenny and either Brien or his wife.¬â€  The account in the Historia (which is dated to the early 14th century) should presumably be dismissed as spurious.¬â€  However, the problem remains of deciding whether Brien was in fact granted the lordship of Abergavenny by right of succession.¬â€  Empress Matilda permitted "Milon com Heref" to hold the castle and honour of Abergavenny, from "Bri fil com et Matild de Walengeford uxor sue" by charter dated [Jul 1141/Dec 1142][258].¬â€  The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Briennius et·Ä¶Mathillis uxor eius" retired to monasteries ("reddiderunt se religioni") during the reign of King Stephen and that Henri Duke of Normandy, son of Empress Matilda, acquired the honour of Wallingford[259].¬â€  According to the Complete Peerage, he was ancestor of the lords of Bedale and Stapelton,¬â€  and the Stapilton family, who became extinct in the male line in 1307[260].¬â€  According to Domesday Descendants, he left no issue[261], presumably based on the report in the Testa de Nevill that Brien left no heirs by his wife Matilda[262].]¬â€  m MATILDA Lady of Wallingford, Berkshire, daughter of --- (-after [1150]).¬â€  Empress Matilda permitted "Milon com Heref" to hold the castle and honour of Abergavenny, from "Bri fil com et Matild de Walengeford uxor sue" by charter dated [Jul 1141/Dec 1142][263].¬â€  Two possible origins are proposed for Matilda.¬â€  The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Roberto Doilli·Ä¶filiam Mathillidem" inherited the honour of Wallingford in Berkshire and married "Milo Crispinus", and after his death "Briennio filio comitis", adding that the latter had no heirs by her[264].¬â€  If this is correct, she was MATILDA de Oilly, widow of MILES Crespin, daughter and heiress of ROBERT d'Oilly of Wallingford & his wife ---.¬â€  According to the Complete Peerage, this inquisition in the Testa de Nevill, which appears to be the only surviving authority which supposedly confirms this second marriage, is "of too late a date to be implicitly relied on"[265].¬â€  In any case, from a chronological point of view, its version of events is extremely improbable: Matilda de Oilly¬¥s marriage to Milo Crispin is estimated to before Easter 1084 (based on the Chronicle of Abingdon names "Milone de Walingaford cognomento Crispin" among those who accompanied Henry, son of William I King of England, to Abingdon monastery to celebrate Easter 1084[266]), while her supposed second husband Brien FitzCount was raised by Henry I King of England[267], presumably indicating his date of birth in the late 11th/early 12th century.¬â€  Bracton notes a claim, dated 1225, by "Henricus de Oilly" against "Willelmum Basset" for "feodum dim. militis·Ä¶in Hispedena", the plaintiff claiming that it was held by "Matillis de Oylli [·Ä¶Briennius filius Comitis·Ä¶uxor sua]·Ä¶tempore H. Regis patris Imperatricis" who died without heirs, inherited by "Roberto de Oylli·Ä¶Henrici de Oylli patri istius Henrici"[268].¬â€  A second possible origin is proposed by Domesday Descendants, according to which Brien¬¥s wife was the daughter of the older Matilda of Wallingford[269], therefore MATILDA Crespin, daughter of MILES Crispin Lord of Wallingford & his wife Matilda de Oilly Lady of Wallingford.¬â€  This proposed solution appears to answer all the possible difficulties.¬â€  The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Briennius et·Ä¶Mathillis uxor eius" retired to monasteries ("reddiderunt se religioni") during the reign of King Stephen and that Henri Duke of Normandy, son of Empress Matilda, acquired the honour of Wallingford[270].¬â€  Brien had [two possible children, maybe not by his known wife]:¬â€ 
a)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [two sons .¬â€  The Historia fundationis cum fundatoris genealogia of the priory of Abergavenny records that the two sons of Brien Lord of Abergavenny were lepers[271].¬â€  If correct, this would explain why the lordship of Abergavenny was transferred away from Brien¬¥s family.¬â€  However, as discussed further above, the account in the Historia is dubious.¬â€  As also noted above, the inquisition dated 1212 stated that Brien died without heirs by his wife Matilda de Wallingford, although if their sons were lepers they could have been disinherited.]¬â€ 
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