Family Tree Welborn » Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry (de Rochefort) comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines (± 1037-1108)
Persönliche Daten Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry (de Rochefort) comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines
- Er wurde geboren rund 1037 in Montlhâ©ry, Seine-Et-Oise, France.
- Er ist verstorben zwischen um 1107 und um 1108 in Montlhâ©ry, Seine-Et-Oise, France.
Seneschal Of France,First Crusade
- Er wurde beerdigt in Seneschal Of France, First Crusade.
- Ein Kind von Guy I Troussel de MONTLHââRY und Hodierne Jourdaine de Gometz-la-Fertâ© (de Gometz)
- Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 11. August 2023.
Familie von Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry (de Rochefort) comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines
(1) Er ist verheiratet mit Elisabeth de Corbeil.
Sie haben geheiratet.
Kind(er):
(2) Er ist verheiratet mit Adelaide Montlhery (Crecy).
Sie haben geheiratet
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Notizen bei Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry (de Rochefort) comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines
Guy "le Rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, Comte de Rochefort
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 1037 Montlhâ©ry, Seine-Et-Oise, France
Death:
between circa 1107 and circa 1108 (61-80)
Montlhâ©ry, Seine-Et-Oise, France
Place of Burial:
Seneschal Of First Crusade, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Guy I "Troussel", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry et de Bray and Hodierne de Gometz-la-Fertâ©
Husband of Adelaide Montlhery (Crecy)
and Elisabeth de Corbeil, dame de Crâ©cy et de Gournay
Father of Melissende Crecy; Unknown de Garlande; Lucienne de Rochefort, Dame de Montlhâ©ry; Beatrix de Montlhâ©ry de Crâ©cy; Hugues, seigneur de Montlhâ©ry et de Crâ©cy; Biote de Montlhâ©ry; N/a de Rochefort and Guy III de Montlhâ©ry, II de Rochefort, comte de Rochefort
Brother of Beatrix de Montlhâ©ry; Adam de Montlhery; Mâ©lisende de Montlhâ©ry; Elisabeth de Montlhâ©ry; Alix de Montlhâ©ry; Milon I "le Grand" de Bray, II de Montlhâ©ry, Vicomte de Troyes and Hodierne de Montlhâ©ry
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Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines is your 29th great grandfather.
You
‰ ᆒ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Calhoun H. Welborn
his father ·Üí Younger Welborn, II
his father ·Üí William "Billy" Welborn
his father ·Üí Aaron W Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí James Welborn
his father ·Üí Ann Wellborn (Crabtree)
his mother ·Üí Jane Ann Pendleton Crabtree (Halstead)
her mother ·Üí Grace Halstead (Courtney)
her mother ·Üí Mary Courtenay (Stucley)
her mother ·Üí John Stucley, of Affeton
her father ·Üí Sir Lewis Stukley
his father ·Üí Frances Culpepper (St. Leger)
his mother ·Üí Catherine Saint Leger (Neville)
her mother ·Üí Sir George Neville, 5th and de jure 3rd Baron Bergavenny
her father ·Üí George Neville, 4th and de jure 2nd Baron Bergavenny
his father ·Üí Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny
his father ·Üí Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
his mother ·Üí John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, 1st Earl of Richmond
her father ·Üí Edward III, king of England
his father ·Üí Isabella of France, Queen consort of England
his mother ·Üí Jeanne I, Queen of Navarre
her mother ·Üí Henry I the Fat, king of Navarre
her father ·Üí Marguerite de Bourbon, reina de Navarra
his mother ·Üí Alix de Forez
her mother ·Üí Guigues "Branda" de Forez, III, Count of Forez
her father ·Üí Guigues de Forez, III, Comte de Lyon et de Forez
his father ·Üí Marie Alix de Beaujeu (Dame de Beaujeu)
his mother ·Üí Lucienne de Rochefort, Dame de Montlhâ©ry <<
her mother ·Üí Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines
her father
Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines is your 27th great grandfather.
You
‰ ᆒ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Calhoun H. Welborn
his father ·Üí Younger Welborn
his father ·Üí William "Billy" Welborn
his father ·Üí Aaron Welborn
his father ·Üí James Welborn
his father ·Üí Ann Wellborn (Crabtree)
his mother ·Üí Jane Ann Pendleton Crabtree (Halstead)
her mother ·Üí Grace Halstead (Courtney)
her mother ·Üí John Courtenay of Molland, III
her father ·Üí Margaret Courtenay (Wyndham)
his mother ·Üí Sir John Wyndham
her father ·Üí Florence Wadham
his mother ·Üí Sir John Wadham of Merifield
her father ·Üí Joan Wadham (Hill)
his mother ·Üí Alice Hill (Stourton)
her mother ·Üí John Stourton, of Preston, MP
her father ·Üí John Stourton, Lord de Stourton
his father ·Üí Joan de Stourton (de Vernon)
his mother ·Üí Juliana Vernon (de Vescy)
her mother ·Üí Agnes Vescy (de Ferrers), the elder
her mother ·Üí William de Ferrers, III, 5th Earl of Derby, Constable of Bolsover Castle
her father ·Üí Agnes of Chester, Countess of Derby
his mother ·Üí Bertrade d'Evereux de Montfort
her mother ·Üí Simon III "le Chauve" de Montfort, comte d'Evreux
her father ·Üí Agnâ®s De Monfort
his mother ·Üí Beatrix de Montlhâ©ry de Crâ©cy
her mother ·Üí Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines
her father
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Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines is your 29th great grandfather.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Geneva Allene Welborn‰
your mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Elmyra Smith‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Nellie Mary Henley‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ John Merrit Wooldridge‰
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his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Wooldridge, Jr.‰
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his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Flournoy‰
her mother‰ ᆒJane Gower‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ William Hatcher, of Varina Parish‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Hatcher‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Robert Smythe, Sir‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Thomas "Customer" Smythe, MP‰
his fatherᆒ‰ John Smythe, Esq., of Corsham‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Isabel Smythe‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Sir John de Neville, Earl of Northumberland‰
her father‰ ᆒRichard Neville, 5th Earl of Salisbury‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster‰
her father‰ ᆒEdward III of England‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Isabella of France, Queen consort of England‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Jeanne I, Queen of Navarre‰
her mother‰ ᆒHenry I the Fat, king of Navarre‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Marguerite de Bourbon, reina de Navarra‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alix de Forez‰
her mother‰ ᆒGuigues IV "Branda" de Forez, comte de Lyon et de Forez‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Guigues III de Forez, comte de Lyon et de Forez‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Marie Alix de Beaujeu‰
his mother·Üí¬â Lucienne de Rochefort, Dame de Montlhâ©ry¬â
her mother¬â ·Üí¬â Guy II "le rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines¬â
her father
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc2...
The primary sources which confirm the parentage and marriages of the members of the following family have not yet been identified, unless otherwise stated below.
1. MILON de Montlhâ©ry . 1034/1057. m ---. The name of Milon's wife is not known. Milon & his wife had two children:
a) HUGUES (-after 1074). "ဦHugone filio Milonis de Monte Lehiricoဦ" witnessed a charter dated to [1042/44] under which "Guanilo thesaurarius Sancti Martini" donated property[1805].
b) GUY [I] (-1095, bur abbaye de Longpont). The Historia of Monk Aimon names "Guidonem" as the son of "Theobaldus cognomina Filans-stupas, Forestarius [Roberti Regis]" stating that he held "Montem-Lethericum"[1806]. He founded the priory of Longpont [1061/85]. "·Ä¶Guido de Monte Letheri·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated 29 May 1067 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the possessions of Saint-Martin-des-Champs[1807]. Châ¢telain de Rochefort-en-Yvelines 1068/74. "Guido de Monte Leherico" donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont, confirmed by "filii mei Milo et Guido et conjux mea Hodierna", by charter dated to [1070][1808]. He became a monk at Longpont. m HODIERNE de Gometz-la-Fertâ©, daughter of GUILLAUME de Gometz-la-Fertâ© Seigneur de Bures & his wife ---. The Historia of Monk Aimon records that "Guidonem", son of "Theobaldus cognomina Filans-stupas, Forestarius [Roberti Regis]", married "dominam de Feritate et de Gommet"[1809]. "Guido de Monte Leherico" donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont, confirmed by "filii mei Milo et Guido et conjux mea Hodierna", by charter dated to [1070][1810]. The primary source which confirms her precise parentage has not yet been identified. 1062/1074. Guy [I] & his wife had seven children
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p360.htm#i8943
Miles I "le Grand", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & de Bray1
b. circa 1035, d. 1118
Miles I "le Grand", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & de Bray|b. c 1035\nd. 1118|p360.htm#i8943|Guy I, seigneur de Montlhâ©ry|b. c 1009\nd. 1095|p354.htm#i5676|Hodierne de Gommets|b. 1014|p48.htm#i5677|Thibaud "Fille-Etoupe", seigneur de Bray & de Montlhâ©ry|b. c 970\nd. 1031|p338.htm#i10113|N. N. (?)|b. c 989|p78.htm#i10111|Guillaume de Gommets, senechal de France|b. c 965|p60.htm#i9080||||
Father Guy I, seigneur de Montlhâ©ry b. circa 1009, d. 1095
Mother Hodierne de Gommets b. 1014
Vicomte de Troyes.2 Seigneur de Montlhery & de Bray.2 Miles I "le Grand", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & de Bray was born circa 1035. He was the son of Guy I, seigneur de Montlhâ©ry and Hodierne de Gommets. Miles I "le Grand", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & de Bray married Lithuise, vicomtesse de Troyes, daughter of Guillaume "Busac", comte d'Eu and Adâ©laide, comtesse de Soissons, in 1070.2 Miles I "le Grand", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & de Bray was on the First Crusade between August 1096 and July 1099.3 He was on Crusade in 1101.3 He died in 1118.
Family
Lithuise, vicomtesse de Troyes b. after 1058
Children
* Emmeline de Montlhâ©ry+ b. c 1072?, d. 11214
* Isabeau de Montlhâ©ry+ b. c 10755
* seigneur de Montlhâ©ry Guy II "Trouâüel" de Montlhâ©ry+ b. 1075?2
Captured At Rome In First Crusade
Citations
1. [S1345] Anselme de Sainte-Marie (augustin dâ©chaussâ©), Pere Anselme's Histoire, 3rd Ed., III:154, 665.
2. [S1345] Anselme de Sainte-Marie (augustin dâ©chaussâ©), Pere Anselme's Histoire, 3rd Ed., III:665.
3. [S1295] Jonathan Riley-Smith, Crusades Atlas, pg. 34.
4. [S1265] Genealogy.eu, online genealogy.euweb.cz, Monthlâ©ry.
5. [S1345] Anselme de Sainte-Marie (augustin dâ©chaussâ©), Pere Anselme's Histoire, 3rd Ed., III:154.
The following information was supplied by Curt Hofemann, (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX) I added Guy's 2nd wife, who appeared to be his mother-in-law. Guy 'le Rouge' de Montlhery, Comte de Rochefort-en-Yveline, Seigneur de Gournay et Gomez Count of Rochefort, Seigneur of Gournay & Gomez [Ref: Moriarty p63] Seigneur de Rochefort-en-Yveline & Montmorency [Ref: ES II:11] called "the Red," Sire de Montlhery, Count of Rochefort-en-Yvelines, Lord of Chateaufort, Seneschal of France, Seigneur of Fornay (sic) & Gomez [Ref: Royalty for Commoners 5:31] b: 1037 (Of Montlhery) [Ref: McBride] parents: [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p63 & 265] m1: Elise de Corbeil m2: Adelaide de Crecy as 2nd wife [Ref: ES III:624] 2nd husband [Ref: ES II:79] d: 1108 [Ref:ES III:624] Regards, Curt
Guy was also called Guy de Rochefort (Guy of Rochefort).
Guy "le Rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, senechal de France, married Elizabeth, dame de Crâ©cy, before 1075.
Guy was the 8th senechal of France in 1093.
He was on Crusade in 1101.
See "My Lines"
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p357.htm#i8786 )
from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )
Guy married Elise De /Corbeil/, daughter of Bouchard De /Corbeil/ and Adelaide De /Crecy/. (Elise De /Corbeil/ was born about 1048 in Corbeil, Marne, France.)
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#dauGuyIIRochefortMAnseauGarlande
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GUY [II] "le Rouge" de Montlhâ©ry, son of GUY [I] Seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & his wife Hodierne de Gometz-la-Fertâ© (-1108).¬â The Historia of Monk Aimon names "Milonem de Brayo et Guidonem Rubeum, Comitissam quoque Reiteste, et Bonam-vecinam de Pontibus, Elizabeth etiam uxorem Joscelini de Corteciniaco, insuper dominam de Puisat, et dominam de S. Galerico" as the children of "Guidonem" and his wife[520].¬â "Guido de Monte Leterico eiusque uxor Hodierna" donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont by charter dated to [1061], witnessed by "Wido filius eorum, Adam vicecomes..."[521].¬â "Guido de Monte Leherico" donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont, confirmed by "filii mei Milo et Guido et conjux mea Hodierna", by charter dated to [1070][522].¬â "Wido filius Widonis de Leuteriomonte" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martin des Champs by charter dated [1085][523].¬â "Dominus Guido de Firmitate et uxor eius Adeleisda" donated their rights "in tota terra Steoville et Boschelt et Alben" to Notre-Dame de Paris by charter dated to [1085][524].¬â Comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines before 1095.¬â Châ¢telain de Châ¢teaufort et de Gometz.¬â Seigneur de Crâ®cy-en-Bray, de Gournay-sur-Marne et de Brâ©thencourt.¬â Albert of Aix records that "·Ä¶Milo·Ä¶de Braio, Wido pariter rufus capite·Ä¶" joined with the Lombard contingent on the second wave of the First Crusade, dated to late 1100 from the context[525].¬â Seneschal of France 1104/06.¬â Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "Guido Rubeus filiusque eius Hugo Creciacensis·Ä¶fratri Corboilensi Odoni" rebelled during the reign of Louis VI King of France[526].¬â The necrology of Longpont records the deaths ·ÄúVII Id Mar·Äù of ·ÄúGuido comes·Äù and "IX Kal Aug" of "Guido institutor hujus loci. Guido vicecomes; Adalaidis comitissa, uxor; Wido filius eius", a supplementary section adding a further reference to the anniversary of ·Äúdonni Guidonis senioris hujus loci institutoris et Guidonis comitis filii eius...IX Kal Aug·Äù as well as the anniversary of ·Äúdonne Hodierne uxoris ipsius Guidonis senioris et Ermensendis de Sancto Galarico filie amborum...VII Kal Apr·Äù with a reference to her visit to Cluny where ·Äúbeato Hugoni abbati·Äù gave her ·Äúcalicem...aureum·Äù[527].¬â
m firstly ELISABETH, daughter of ---.¬â The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.¬â ¬â 1059/1067.¬â Pâ®re Anselme reverses the order of Guy [II]·Äôs wives, naming ·ÄúAdelais·Äù as his first wife and ·ÄúElizabeth dame de Crecy, veuve de Bouchard II Comte de Corbeil·Äù as his second, noting that ·ÄúAdelais·Äù founded the priory of Notre-Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne with her husband[528].¬â
m secondly (after [1071/80]) as her second husband, ADELAIS de Crâ©cy, widow of BOUCHARD [II] Comte de Corbeil, daughter of --- (-[24 Sep or 12 Oct] after 1104).¬â "Odo comes de Corboilo" donated property "in terra Morissarti" [Mortcerf] to the abbey of Saint-Martin de Pontoise on the intercession of "matre sua comitissa de Creceio" by charter dated [1080][529].¬â Her two marriages are indicated by Suger's Vita Ludovici which records that "Guido Rubeus filiusque eius Hugo Creciacensis·Ä¶fratri Corboilensi Odoni" rebelled during the reign of Louis VI King of France[530].¬â "Dominus Guido de Firmitate et uxor eius Adeleisda" donated their rights "in tota terra Steoville et Boschelt et Alben" to Notre-Dame de Paris by charter dated to [1085][531].¬â The necrology of Paris Notre-Dame records the death "IV Id Oct" of "Adelaidis comitissa de Rupeforti" and her donation of ·Äúdomum Droconis archidiaconi·Äù[532].¬â The necrology of Longpont records the deaths "IX Kal Aug" of "Guido institutor hujus loci. Guido vicecomes; Adalaidis comitissa, uxor; Wido filius eius" and ·ÄúVIII Kal Oct·Äù of ·ÄúAdaleidis comitissa·Äù although it is not certain that the second entry refers to the second wife of Guy [II][533].¬â
Guy [II] & his [first] wife had [three] children:‰
1.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â GUY [III] (-[19 Nov] [1115]).¬â Comte de Rochefort.¬â "Guido comes Rocheforti" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Trinitâ© de Tiron by charter dated [1114] witnessed by "Rotrocus comes Perticensis, Beatrix comitissa mater eiusdem"[534].¬â "Guido, Guidoni filius, de Rupe Forti" consented to a donation to Notre-Dame de Longpont by charter dated to [1115/18][535].¬â A charter dated to [1119/30] records that ·ÄúGuido comes de Rupeforti·Äù donated ·Äúin villa...Ermentarvilla·Äù to Saint-Jean-en-Vallâ©e before he died, with the consent of ·ÄúBeatrix soror eius·Äù, witnessed by ·Äú...Hugo de Creci monacus·Äù[536].¬â The necrology of Longpont records the death "IX Kal Aug" of "Guido institutor hujus loci. Guido vicecomes; Adalaidis comitissa, uxor; Wido filius eius"[537].¬â [The necrology of Longpont also records the death "XIII Kal Dec" of "Guido de Rocaforti"[538].¬â The absence of the comital title in this entry suggests that it may not refer to the comital family.¬â If it does, it is uncertain whether Guy [II] or Guy [III] is intended.]¬â m ---.¬â The name of Guy's wife is not known.¬â Guy [III] & his wife had [one child]:¬â
a)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [SIMON (-before [1117/25]).‰ Comte de Rochefort.‰ A charter dated to [1140] records that "dominoဦSymone de Rupe Forti comite" had consented to a donation to Longpont Notre-Dame[539].‰ His parentage is not known but he may have been the son and successor of Guy [II].]‰
2.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [daughter .¬â The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.¬â ¬â Pâ®re Anselme records that an unnamed daughter of Guy [II] married ·ÄúAnseau de Garlande senechal de France·Äù but indicates no primary source on which the statement is based[540].¬â It may be speculative designed to explain the transmission of Rochefort to her daughter.¬â m ANSEAU de Garlande, son of GUILLAUME [I] Seigneur de Garlande & his wife Havoise --- (-1118).¬â Seneschal of France 1107/18.]¬â
3.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [BIOTE de Montlhâ©ry .¬â Her parentage and marriage are confirmed only by a document written in 1630 which names "Fâ©dâ©ric vicomte de Gastinois, fils de Guy·Ä¶fils d·Äôun autre Guy·Ä¶vicomte de Gastinois nay de Biote de Rochefort, sâìur de Guy II comte de Rochefort et de Hugues de Crâ©cy"[541].¬â If this is correct, the chronology suggests that she was born from her father·Äôs first marriage.¬â m (before 1098) FOULQUES Vicomte de Châ¢teau-Landon, son of LETAUD [II] & his wife --- (-after 1122).]¬â
Guy [II] & his second wife had three children:‰
4.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â HUGUES de Crâ©cy (-31 Jul 1147).¬â Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "Guido Rubeus filiusque eius Hugo Creciacensis·Ä¶fratri Corboilensi Odoni" rebelled during the reign of Louis VI King of France[542].¬â Seigneur de Gournay.¬â Seneschal of France 1106/07.¬â The Chronique de Guillaume de Nangis records in 1114 that "Louis roi de France assiâ©gea le châ¢teau de Gournai·Ä¶appartenant ââ Hugues de Pompone seigneur de Crâ©cy" and that Hugues was helped by "Guy le Roux de Rochefort son pâ®re" but was forced to flee[543].¬â Seigneur de Gometz.¬â The Chronique de Morigny records that "Hugo de Creciaco" killed "Milonem de Monteleherico·Ä¶dominum suum cognatum suum", after which he was besieged in "castrum Gumet" {Gometz}, had his property confiscated, fled "in curia Amaurici de Monte-forti·Ä¶cujus et ipse Hugo filiam parvulam desponsaverat", and then became a monk, in a passage dealing with events in 1118[544].¬â Seigneur de Châ¢teaufort.¬â The place of Milon·Äôs imprisonment is confirmed as Châ¢teaufort: a charter dated to [1116/17] records that "Milo Milonis filius, Guidonis Trosselli frater", a captive of "Hugone de Crecio·Ä¶apud Castellum Forte", donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont, and adds that later Milon was killed in the same place and buried "apud Longum Pontem" in the presence of "Rainaldus frater eius·Ä¶cum nepotibus suis et Manasse vicecomite Senonensi"[545].¬â "Luciana soror Hugonis de Creciaco" donated her property "apud Agglias et Buxiacum" to Longpont, in the presence of "Hugone de Creciaco·Ä¶Radulfo comite, Manasse de Turnomio·Ä¶et Beatrix uxor eius", by charter dated to [1137][546].¬â Monk at Cluny.¬â A charter dated to [1119/30] records that ·ÄúGuido comes de Rupeforti·Äù donated ·Äúin villa...Ermentarvilla·Äù to Saint-Jean-en-Vallâ©e before he died, with the consent of ·ÄúBeatrix soror eius·Äù, witnessed by ·Äú...Hugo de Creci monacus·Äù[547].¬â The necrology of the Priory of Saint-Martin-des-Champs records the death "II Kal Aug" of "Hugo de Creci"[548].¬â Betrothed (1118) to --- de Montfort, daughter of AMAURY Seigneur de Montfort l·ÄôAmaury & his first wife Richildis de Hainaut.¬â The Chronique de Morigny records that "Hugo de Creciaco" killed "Milonem de Monteleherico·Ä¶dominum suum cognatum suum", after which he was besieged in "castrum Gumet" {Gometz}, fled "in curia Amaurici de Monte-forti·Ä¶cujus et ipse Hugo filiam parvulam desponsaverat", and then became a monk, in a passage dealing with events in 1118[549].¬â
5.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â LUCIENNE ([1090/95]-6 May, 1138 or after).¬â Her betrothal is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who calls her "Luciana", names her father and specifies that she later married "Guiscardo de Bello Loco"[550].¬â Suger's Vita Ludovici records the betrothal of "filius dominus Ludovicus" and "filiam Guidonis [comitis de Rupe Forti]" and their separation on grounds of consanguinity[551].¬â "Luciana soror Hugonis de Creciaco" donated her property "apud Agglias et Buxiacum" to Longpont, with the consent of "Ludovicus rex Francorum quia ex eius feodo erat", in the presence of "Hugone de Creciaco·Ä¶Radulfo comite, Manasse de Turnomio·Ä¶et Beatrix uxor eius", by charter dated to [1137][552].¬â The necrology of Notre-Dame de Beaujeu records the death "II Non Mai" of "Luciana·Ä¶mater domini Humberti Bellijoci"[553].¬â Betrothed (1104, annulled Council of Troyes 23 May 1107 on grounds of consanguinity) to LOUIS de France, son of PHILIPPE I King of France & his first wife Bertha of Holland (Paris end 1081-Châ¢teau Bethizy, near Paris 1 Aug 1137, bur â©glise de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis).¬â He succeeded his father in 1108 as LOUIS VI "le Gros/le Batailleur" King of France.¬â m (after 23 May 1107) GUICHARD [IV] Seigneur de Beaujeu, son of HUMBERT [II] [Seigneur de Beaujeu] & his wife Auxilia --- (-Cluny 23 Sep 1137).¬â
6.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â BEATRIX ([1105/15]-after 1168).¬â According to Europâ§ische Stammtafeln, Beatrix was the daughter of Guy [II] "le Rouge" de Montlhâ©ry Comte de Rochefort and his second wife, and sister of Hugues and Lucienne[554].¬â Assuming that Beatrix·Äôs marriages are correct as shown below, this supposed parentage is stretched from a chronological point of view as she had children by her second husband whom she married after [1137].¬â Her birth date is estimated to [1105/15], on the basis of the birth of these children.¬â Unfortunately no information has so far emerged about Beatrix·Äôs first husband which could corroborate this estimate by indicating his approximate age or the date of their marriage.¬â Beatrix held property rights in Crâ©cy as shown by the following charter: "uxor domini Drogonis de Petrafonte, domina Beatrix" donated toll rights ("decimam sue partis·Ä¶pedagium de Creceio" which she held "jure hereditario") to the monks of Vieux-Crâ©cy, "pro viro suo et filiis suis Widone, Hugone atque Johanne", by charter dated to [1 Jan 1144/15 Apr 1145], witnessed by "Hugo monachus frater eius·Ä¶"[555].¬â The document names "Hugo monachus frater eius" who must be identified as Hugues de Crâ©cy, son of Guy [II] "le Rouge", who is shown above.¬â A charter dated to [1119/30] records that ·ÄúGuido comes de Rupeforti·Äù donated ·Äúin villa...Ermentarvilla·Äù to Saint-Jean-en-Vallâ©e before he died, with the consent of ·ÄúBeatrix soror eius·Äù, witnessed by ·Äú...Hugo de Creci monacus·Äù[556].¬â "Luciana soror Hugonis de Creciaco" donated her property "apud Agglias et Buxiacum" to Longpont, in the presence of "Hugone de Creciaco·Ä¶Radulfo comite, Manasse de Turnomio qui hoc idem ibidem concessit", adding that "idem Manasses et Beatrix uxor eius" supported the donation "apud Creciacum prefatum" and added their own donation, by charter dated to [1137][557].¬â "Drogo·Ä¶Petrefontensis dominus·Ä¶et uxore eius Beatrice·Ä¶et Nivelo filius meus" attested that "Johanne de Roia" had renounced his claims over land donated by Drogo to the abbey of Valsery by charter dated 1160[558].¬â "Wido de Castellione" renewed the donation of revenue to the church of Saint-Martin de Crâ©cy, made by "uxor Drogone de Petrafonte, domina Beatrix" for "viro suo et pro filiis suis Widone, Hugone atque Johanne", in the presence of "Hugone monacho fratre predicte Beatricis·Ä¶", by charter dated 1168[559].¬â Philippe II King of France confirmed the donation made to Notre-Dame de Longpont by "Beatrix de Petrafontis", confirmed after her death by "Agatha de Petrafontis ipsius filia", by charter dated 1183[560].¬â m firstly MANASSES de Tournan [en-Brie], son of --- (-after [1137]).¬â m secondly (after [1137]) DREUX Seigneur de Pierrefonds, son of NIVELON [III Seigneur de Pierrefonds & his wife Beatrix --- (-[1160]).]¬â
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Miles "le Grand" de Montlhâ©ry
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SEIGNEURS de MONTLHERY
The primary sources which confirm the parentage and marriages of the members of the following family have not yet been identified, unless otherwise stated below.
1.¬â MILON de Montlhâ©ry¬â . 1034/1057. m ---. The name of Milon's wife is not known. Milon & his wife had two children:
a) HUGUES (-after 1074). "ဦHugone filio Milonis de Monte Lehiricoဦ" witnessed a charter dated to [1042/44] under which "Guanilo thesaurarius Sancti Martini" donated property[1805].
b) GUY [I] (-1095, bur abbaye de Longpont). The Historia of Monk Aimon names "Guidonem" as the son of "Theobaldus cognomina Filans-stupas, Forestarius [Roberti Regis]" stating that he held "Montem-Lethericum"[1806]. He founded the priory of Longpont [1061/85]. "·Ä¶Guido de Monte Letheri·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated 29 May 1067 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the possessions of Saint-Martin-des-Champs[1807]. Châ¢telain de Rochefort-en-Yvelines 1068/74. "Guido de Monte Leherico" donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont, confirmed by "filii mei Milo et Guido et conjux mea Hodierna", by charter dated to [1070][1808]. He became a monk at Longpont. m HODIERNE de Gometz-la-Fertâ©, daughter of GUILLAUME de Gometz-la-Fertâ© Seigneur de Bures & his wife ---. The Historia of Monk Aimon records that "Guidonem", son of "Theobaldus cognomina Filans-stupas, Forestarius [Roberti Regis]", married "dominam de Feritate et de Gommet"[1809]. "Guido de Monte Leherico" donated property to Notre-Dame de Longpont, confirmed by "filii mei Milo et Guido et conjux mea Hodierna", by charter dated to [1070][1810]. The primary source which confirms her precise parentage has not yet been identified. 1062/1074. Guy [I] & his wife had seven children
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Miles I "le Grand", seigneur de Montlhâ©ry & de Bray1
b. circa 1035, d. 1118
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