Family Tree Welborn » Adela Hildebrante (Adela Hildebrande) de France Robertien (de France de NEUSTRIA) (± 893-> 941)
Persönliche Daten Adela Hildebrante (Adela Hildebrande) de France Robertien (de France de NEUSTRIA)
- Sie ist geboren rund 893 in Normandy, France.
- Sie ist verstorben nach 941 in Normandy, France.
- Sie wurde begraben in Normandy, France.
- Ein Kind von Robert I de Robertiens Capet of France und Aelis de France de Neustrie
- Diese Information wurde zuletzt aktualisiert am 17. März 2024.
Familie von Adela Hildebrante (Adela Hildebrande) de France Robertien (de France de NEUSTRIA)
Sie ist verheiratet mit Hâ©ribert II of VERMANDOIS.
Sie haben geheiratet.
Kind(er):
Notizen bei Adela Hildebrante (Adela Hildebrande) de France Robertien (de France de NEUSTRIA)
==========paternal=============
Adâ®le de France is your 29th great grandmother.
You
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Francis "Fannie" Pernerviane Welborn
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Primma M. Davis
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Autra Pridgen
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Major John Pitchlynn, Sr.
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Jemima Sally Pitchlynn
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Marie Hickman
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Janneke aka Jane Hornbeck
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Kortright
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Jannetje Aldertse Roosa
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Capt. Aeldert Hymansz Roosa
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Heijmen Guijsbert Roosa
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Gijsbert Goertzen Roosa
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Jutta van Heukelom, gezegd van Rosendael
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Otto Ottensz van Heukelom
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Otto van Heukelom
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Otto Ottensz van Heukelom
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Aleid d'Avesnes
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Guido (Gwijde Gui) d'Avesnes, bishop of Utrecht
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Jean I d'Avesnes, count of Hainault
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Margaret II, countess of Flanders
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Marie de Champagne
her mother¬â ·Üí¬â Henri I de Blois 'le Libâ©ral', count of Champagne & Brie
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Thibault "Le Grande" IV de Blois, II de Champagne
his father¬â ·Üí¬â ââtienne Henri 'Stephen' II, Count of Blois, de Champagne and de Meaux
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Thibaut, Count of Blois & Champagne
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Odo (Eudes) II, Count of Blois, Champagne and Chartres
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Odo I, count of Blois
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Luitgarde of Vermandois
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â Adâ®le de France
her mother
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Adâ®le de France is your 30th great grandmother.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Henry "Toad" Welborn‰
your father‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Calhoun H. Welborn‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sarah Elizabeth Welborn‰
his mother‰ ᆒBenjamin Franklin Dykes‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ William Dykes, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ George Dykes, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward George Dykes‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Dykes‰
his father‰ ᆒThomas Dykes‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Dykes‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Thomas Dykes‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Leonard Dykes‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Isabelle Dykes‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Pennington‰
her mother‰ ᆒMary Hudleston‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Henry Fenwick‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Margaret de Percy‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland‰
her father‰ ᆒMary of Lancaster, Baroness Percy‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Henry of Lancaster‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Edmund Crouchback, 1st Earl of Leicester and Lancaster‰
his father‰ ᆒHenry III of England‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ John Lackland, King of England‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Eleanor d'Aquitaine, Queen Consort Of England‰
his mother‰ ᆒWilliam X, Duke of Aquitaine‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Guillaume IX le Troubadour, duc d'Aquitaine‰
his father‰ ᆒGuillaume VIII Geoffroy d'Aquitaine, VIII duc d'Aquitaine et Vl comte de Poitou‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ William V, duke of Aquitaine‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Emma of Blois‰
his mother‰ ᆒLuitgarde of Vermandois‰
her mother¬â ·Üí¬â Adâ®le de France¬â
her mother
Adâ®le de France is your 31st great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Marvin "Toad" Henry Welborn, Jr.
your father ·Üí Heny Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Calhoun H. Welborn
his father ·Üí Sarah Elizabeth Dikes
his mother ·Üí Benjamin Franklin Dykes, II
her father ·Üí William Dykes, Sr.
his father ·Üí George Dykes, Sr.
his father ·Üí Edward George Dykes
his father ·Üí Edward Dykes
his father ·Üí Thomas Dykes
his father ·Üí Edward Dykes
his father ·Üí Thomas Dykes
his father ·Üí Leonard Dykes
his father ·Üí Isabelle Dykes
his mother ·Üí Mary Pennington
her mother ·Üí Mary Hudleston
her mother ·Üí Sir Henry Fenwick
her father ·Üí Margaret de Percy
his mother ·Üí Sir Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland
her father ·Üí Mary of Lancaster, Baroness Percy
his mother ·Üí Henry of Lancaster
her father ·Üí Blanche of Artois
his mother ·Üí Mathilde van Brabant
her mother ·Üí Henry II, duke of Brabant
her father ·Üí Mathilde of Flanders, Duchess of Brabant
his mother ·Üí Marie de Boulogne, Comtesse De Boulogne
her mother ·Üí Stephen I, King of England
her father ·Üí Stephen II, Count of Blois
his father ·Üí Thibaut, Count of Blois & Champagne
his father ·Üí Eudes/Odo II, Count of Blois, Champagne and Chartres
his father ·Üí Odo I, count of Blois
his father ·Üí Luitgarde of Vermandois
his mother ·Üí Adâ®le de France
her mother
=======maternal===========
Adâ®le de France is your 34th great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
her father ·Üí Britton Lee
his father ·Üí William Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Lemuel Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Edward Lee, I
his father ·Üí Mary Lee
his mother ·Üí William Bryan, I
her father ·Üí John Smith Bryan, of Nansemond
his father ·Üí William Bryan
his father ·Üí Sir Francis Bryan, II, Justicar of Ireland
his father ·Üí Sir Francis Bryan I "The Vicar of Hell", Lord Chief Justice of Ireland
his father ·Üí Lady Margaret Bryan
his mother ·Üí Humphrey Bourchier, Sir
her father ·Üí John Bourchier, 1st Baron Berners
his father ·Üí Anne of Gloucester, Countess of Stafford
his mother ·Üí Thomas of Woodstock, 1st Duke of Gloucester
her father ·Üí Philippa of Hainault, Queen consort of England
his mother ·Üí William III, count of Holland
her father ·Üí Jean II d'Avesnes, comte de Hainaut
his father ·Üí Aleid van Holland, comtesse de Hainaut
his mother ·Üí Floris IV, count of Holland
her father ·Üí Aleid of Guelders, Countess of Holland
his mother ·Üí Otto I, count of Guelders
her father ·Üí Hendrik I, count of Guelders
his father ·Üí Ermengarde of Zutphen
his mother ·Üí Otto II, graaf van Zâºtphen
her father ·Üí Gottschalk van Twente, count of Zutphen
his father ·Üí Hermann von Emmerich, Graf in Westfalen
his father ·Üí Grâ§fin Emma von Lesum
his mother ·Üí Adela van Hamaland
her mother ·Üí Liutgard
her mother ·Üí Adele of Vermandois
her mother ·Üí Adâ®le de France
her mother
Adâ®le de France is your 30th great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Alice Elmyra Smith
her mother ·Üí Nellie Mary Henley
her mother ·Üí John Merrit Wooldridge
her father ·Üí Merritt Wooldridge
his father ·Üí Chesley Wooldridge
his father ·Üí Edward Wooldridge, Jr.
his father ·Üí Mary Wooldridge
his mother ·Üí Mary Martha Flournoy
her mother ·Üí Jane Gower
her mother ·Üí Marian Mary Hatcher
her mother ·Üí Capt. Christopher Newport, Admiral of Virginia
her father ·Üí Christopher Newport, Sr.
his father ·Üí Christopher Richard Newporte
his father ·Üí Mary Allington
his mother ·Üí Mary Ellen Allington
her mother ·Üí Elizabeth Cokayne
her mother ·Üí Baroness Ida Cokayne
her mother ·Üí Reynold de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Ruthin
her father ·Üí Elizabeth Hastings, Baroness Grey of Ruthin
his mother ·Üí Isabel de Valence
her mother ·Üí William de Valence, 1st Earl of Pembroke
her father ·Üí Isabella of Angoulââ¢me
his mother ·Üí Aymer, count of Angoulââ¢me
her father ·Üí Marguerite de Turenne, comtesse d'Angoulââ¢me
his mother ·Üí Mathilde du Perche, comtesse du Perche
her mother ·Üí Geoffrey I de Châ¢teaudun, comte de Mortagne et du Perche
her father ·Üí Adelise de Bellâ®me
his mother ·Üí Melisende de Châ¢teaudun
her mother ·Üí Hildegarde de Blois
her mother ·Üí Luitgarde of Vermandois
her mother ·Üí Adâ®le de France
her mother
Adâ®le de France is your 34th great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
her father ·Üí Britton Lee
his father ·Üí William Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Lemuel Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Edward Lee, Sr.
his father ·Üí Mary Lee
his mother ·Üí William Bryan, I
her father ·Üí John Smith Bryan
his father ·Üí William Bryan
his father ·Üí Sir Francis Bryan, II, Justicar of Ireland
his father ·Üí Sir Francis Bryan I "The Vicar of Hell", Lord Chief Justice of Ireland
his father ·Üí Margaret Bryan, Lady Bryan
his mother ·Üí Humphrey Bourchier, Sir
her father ·Üí John Bourchier, 1st Baron Berners
his father ·Üí Anne of Gloucester, Countess of Stafford
his mother ·Üí Lady Eleanor de Bohun
her mother ·Üí Joan Fitzalan, Countess of Hereford
her mother ·Üí Richard Fitzlan, Earl of Arundel
her father ·Üí Edmund FitzAlan, 9th Earl of Arundel
his father ·Üí Richard FitzAlan, 8th Earl Arundel
his father ·Üí Isabella de Mortimer, Countess of Arundel
his mother ·Üí Maud de Braose, Baroness Mortimer
her mother ·Üí Eva Marshal, Baroness Abergavenny
her mother ·Üí Isabel de Clare, heiress of Pembroke
her mother ·Üí Richard "Strongbow" de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke
her father ·Üí Isabel de Beaumont, Concubine #15 of Henry I, Countess of Pembroke
his mother ·Üí Elisabeth de Vermandois, dame de Crâ©py
her mother ·Üí Countess Adâ®le de Vermandois, comtesse de Vermandois et Valois
her mother ·Üí Heribert IV (VI), comte de Vermandois
her father ·Üí Eudes, comte de Vermandois
his father ·Üí Herbert IV de Vermandois, son of Adalbert and Gerberga
his father ·Üí Adalbert I the Pious, count of Vermandois
his father ·Üí Adâ®le de France
his mother
Adela Robertien
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 893
Place of Burial:
Normandy, France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Robert I, king of West Francia and Aâ©lis
Wife of Hâ©ribert II, count of Vermandois
Mother of Eudes, count of Vienne & Amiens; Adele of Vermandois; Heribert III "le Vieux", comte d'Omois, Comte de Meaux et Troyes; Hughes de Vermandois, Archevêque de Reims; Luitgarde of Vermandois; Robert de Vermandois, comte de Meaux et de Troyes; Adalbert I the Pious, count of Vermandois and Guy I de Vermandois, comte de Soissons
Sister of Emma de France
Half sister of Hugh "Magnus" of Paris, count of Paris, duke of the Franks
https://www.geni.com/people/Adâ®le-de-France/6000000003494707647
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020190&tree=LEO
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#HeribertIIdied943B
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAPET.htm#AdelaMHeribertIIVermandois
ROBERT, son of ROBERT "le Fort" Comte [de Tours], Marquis en Neustrie & his [second] wife --- ([860]-killed in battle near Soissons 15 Jun 923).¬â "Rodbertum fratrem Odonis regis" is named in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[65].¬â He was installed as lay abbot of Marmoutier on the death of Hugues l·ÄôAbbâ© in 886[66].¬â He succeeded his brother in 888 as Marquis en Neustrie, and probably also as Comte de Paris, d'Orlâ©ans et de Tours.¬â After his brother King Eudes captured Poitou in 893, he installed Robert as Comte de Poitou but the latter was expelled by Adâ©mar, son of Comte Emenon[67].¬â Abbot of Saint-Martin de Tours:¬â "Robert abbâ© de Saint-Martin" confirmed possessions of Saint-Martin de Tours by charter dated 30 Aug 894[68].¬â Eudes King of France granted the abbey of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers to the bishop of Poitiers, at the request of "marchiones·Ä¶Hrobertus·Ä¶atque Ademarus", by charter dated to [894][69].¬â After the death of his brother in 898, Robert supported Charles III King of France who seems to have confirmed Robert's position in Neustrie.¬â ·ÄúRotbertus...beati Martini abba...et comes·Äù restored ·Äúcellulâ¶...Sancti Clementis·Äù, previously donated by ·Äúpredecessor noster domnus Odo germanus noster...tunc abbas deinde Francorum rex·Äù, to Saint-Martin by charter dated 13 Sep 900, subscribed by ·Äú...Attonis vicecomitis, Guarnegaudi vicecomitis, Fulconis vicecomitis, Rainaldi vicecomitis...·Äù[70].¬â He rebelled against the king in 922, triggered by the confiscation of the monastery of Chelles by King Charles from Rothilde (who was the mother-in-law of Robert's son Hugues) in favour of his favourite Haganon.¬â He was elected¬â ROBERT I King of France¬â 22 Jun 922, consecrated at Reims by Gauthier Archbishop of Sens.¬â Flodoard records in 922 that "Franci" elected ·ÄúRotbertum seniorem·Äù who was invested ·ÄúRemis apud Sanctum Remigium ab episcopis et primatibus regni·Äù[71].¬â King Robert was killed fighting ex-King Charles, although his forces won the battle: Flodoard records in 923 that "Karolus cum suis Lothariensibus" crossed ·ÄúMosam...ad Atiniacum...et...super Axonam·Äù where he lost the battle near Soissons in which ·ÄúRotbertus...rex·Äù was killed[72].¬â The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "XVII Kal Jul" of "Rotbertus rex"[73].¬â The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Magloire records the death "XVII Kal Jul" of "Robertus rex"[74].¬â The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records that "Rotbertus rex" was killed in battle 15 Jun[75].¬â
m firstly¬â ---.¬â The name of Robert's first wife is not known.¬â However, as King Robert's known wife Bâ©atrix de Vermandois could not have been the mother of his daughter Adela (married to the brother of Bâ©atrix) it is assumed that this earlier marriage is correct.¬â ¬â According to¬â Europâ§ische Stammtafeln[76], Robert's first wife was named¬â AELIS.¬â This may be based on the 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris which refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[77].¬â However, as shown below, this is more likely to refer to Robert and his daughter than to his wife.¬â
m secondly¬â ([897])¬â BEATRIX de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT [I] Comte de Vermandois & his wife --- ([880/83]-after 26 Mar 931).¬â The¬â Historia Francorum Senonensis¬â records that "sororem Herberti" was the wife of "Robertus princeps" who rebelled against Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks[78].¬â Guillaume of Jumiâ®ges records that ·ÄúRodbertus dux·Äù married ·Äúsororem Herberti·Äù by whom he had ·ÄúHugonem Magnum·Äù[79].¬â "Hugo rector Abbatiⶠsancti Martini" names "genitoris nostri Rotberti quondam regis ac genitricis nostrⶠdomnⶠBeatricis" in his charter dated 26 Mar 931[80].¬â The marriage date is estimated by Werner on the assumption that the marriage accompanied the political reconciliation between Beatrix's father and Robert's uncle[81].¬â If the 907 donation mentioned above in fact refers to Robert's first wife, his marriage to Beatrix would of course have taken place after that date.¬â
King Robert I & his first wife had one child:
1.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [ADELA] (before 898-).‰ The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti generဦRoberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[82].‰ Her origin is confirmed by Flodoard naming "Hugo dux cum nepotibus suis, Heriberti filiis" in 943[83].‰ Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915].‰ Her name is deduced as follows.‰ The 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[84].‰ Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Beatrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife.‰ This reasoning appears based firstly on Hugues already being married in [914], and secondly on the probability of his having reached the age of majority when he was recognised as duke in 922.‰ The 907 document is therefore explained as referring to Robert and his elder daughter.‰ The issue, however, is not beyond doubt, especially if the document in question was misdated.‰ ‰ m‰ (before 21 May 907)‰ HERIBERT‰ [II]‰ Comte de Vermandois, son of HERIBERT [I] Comte de Vermandois[-Carolingian] & his wife [Lietgardis] --- ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin).‰
King Robert I & his [first/second] wife had one child:
2.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â EMMA¬â (-2 Nov 934).¬â Flodoard names "Emma regis Rotberti filia" when recording that she obliged Seulf Archbishop of Reims to consecrate her as queen at Reims in 923 in the absence of her husband fighting[85].¬â Rodulfus Glaber names "Emmam·Ä¶sororem·Ä¶magni Hugonis" as wife of "Rodulfus, Richardi ducis Burgundiⶠfilius", suggesting that she was instrumental in persuading her brother to support her husband's accession as king[86].¬â "Emme nostri imperii consortis" and "Emma coniux mea" is named in the charters of "Rodolfus Francorum rex" dated 21 Jun 931 and 1 Jul 931[87].¬â There is no indication whether Emma was born from her father's first or second marriage.¬â From a chronological point of view, it appears that both cases are possible.¬â Flodoard records the death of "Emma regina" at the end of his passage dated 934[88].¬â The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prâ©s records the death "IV Non Nov" of "domna Emma regina"[89].¬â ¬â m¬â ([911/19])¬â RODOLPHE¬â [Raoul]¬â Comte de Bourgogne, son of RICHARD ·Äúle Justicier·Äù Duke of Burgundy & his wife Adâ©lais d·ÄôAuxerre [Welf] (-Auxerre, Yonne 15/16 Jan 936, bur Abbaye de Sainte-Colombe de Sens).¬â Flodoard names "Rodulfo filio Richardi"[90].¬â He is named "Rodulfo rex filio meo" in the grant of "Adeleydis comitissa soror Rodulfi" to Cluny dated 14 Jun 929[91].¬â Rodulfus Glaber names "Rodulfus, Richardi ducis Burgundiⶠfilius"[92].¬â He succeeded his father in 921 as Duke of Burgundy.¬â He was elected as¬â RAOUL King of France¬â in 13 Jul 923 at Soissons to succeed his father-in-law, consecrated by Gauthier Archbishop of Sens at the abbey of Saint-Mâ©dard de Soissons.¬â Flodoard records in 923 that, after King Charles III had retreated "trans Mosam", ·ÄúRodulfum...regem...[filius Richardi]·Äù was elected and consecrated ·Äúapud urbem Suessonicam·Äù[93].¬â Flodoard records in 936 (as the second report in that year) the death of ·Äúrex Rodulfus·Äù and his burial ·ÄúSenonis apud sanctam Columbam·Äù[94].¬â The¬â Historia Francorum Senonensis¬â records the death "XVIII Kal Feb" of "Rodulfo rege", specifying his burial "in basilica aanctⶠColumbâ¶"[95].¬â The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records the death 14 Jan of "Rodulphus rex"[96].¬â
King Robert I & his second wife had one child:‰
3.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â HUGUES¬â ([898]-Dourdan, Essonne 16 Jun 956, bur â©glise de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis).¬â The¬â Historia Francorum Senonensis¬â names "Hugo Magnus" as son of "Robertus princeps [et]¬â sororem Herberti"[97].¬â He was installed as¬â HUGUES¬â "le Grand"¬â Duc des Francs¬â in 936.¬â
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ see below, Part B.‰
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HERIBERT¬â [II], son of HERIBERT [I] Comte de Vermandois & his wife [Lietgardis] --- ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin).¬â None of the sources so far consulted state explicitly that Hâ©ribert [II] and his sister Beatrix were the children of Hâ©ribert [I] but this looks probable.¬â He succeeded his father in [900/907] as¬â Comte¬â de Meaux, de Soissons et¬â de Vermandois.¬â Lay Abbot of St Crâ©pin and St Mâ©dard at Soissons.¬â Comte Hâ©ribert took part in the rebellion against Charles III ·Äúle Simple·Äù King of France in 922 and tricked the ex-king into capture after he fled following his defeat near Soissons in 923.¬â Flodoard records in 923 that "Heribertus comes" sent ·ÄúBernardum consobrinum suum·Äù with a delegation ·Äúad Karolum·Äù who was ·Äúin castello suo super Somnam apud Sanctum Quintinum·Äù, and who was detained ·Äúin...munitionem suam...Castellum Theoderici super Maternam fluvium·Äù[198].¬â Hâ©ribert consolidated his power by arranging for his young son to be made Archbishop of Reims.¬â Comte Hâ©ribert received Pâ©ronne from Raoul King of France in 924.¬â Together with forces of Arnoul I Count of Flanders, Hâ©ribert captured the Viking stronghold of Eu[199].¬â Following this he apparently forged an alliance with Comte Rollo in [927][200], leaving his son Eudes with Rollo as a hostage.¬â Comte Hâ©ribert unsuccessfully attempted to capture Laon in 927[201].¬â [Comte de Vienne]: Flodoard records that Ugo King of Italy gave "provintiam Viennensem" to Hâ©ribert Comte de Varmandois in 928, and that "Odonis filii sui [=Heriberto]" was appointed¬â vicecomes[202].¬â No primary source has yet been identified which describes Hâ©ribert as ·ÄúComte de Vienne·Äù or confirms whether he adopted the comital title.¬â Flodoard provides an insight into the continuing rivalries regarding Vienne when he records in 933 that it was granted to "Rodulfo regi" [Rudolf II King of Upper Burgundy, see the document BURGUNDY KINGS][203]. With help from Hugues "le Grand" [Capet], King Raoul subdued Vermandois and Comte Hâ©ribert made his submission to the king[204].¬â In 939. Hâ©ribert joined the alliance against Louis IV King of France led by Otto I "der Groâüe" King of Germany, who raided Frankish territory and forced King Louis to renounce his claim to the throne of Lotharingia. ¬â Together with Hugues "le Grand" [Capet], Hâ©ribert besieged Reims, forcing the restoration of his son as archbishop, and also besieged King Louis at Laon.¬â Flodoard records the death of "Heribertus comes" in 943 and his burial at Saint-Quentin[205].¬â The necrology of Reims Cathedral records the death "VII Kal Mar" of "Heribertus comes"[206].¬â On his death in 943, his territories were divided between his sons by their maternal uncle Hugues "le Grand".¬â ¬â ¬â
m¬â (before 21 May 907) [ADELA], daughter of ROBERT Marquis en Neustrie, Comte de Paris [later ROBERT I King of France] & his first wife [Adela] --- (before 898-).¬â The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti gener·Ä¶Roberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[207].¬â Her origin is confirmed by Flodoard naming "Hugo¬â dux cum nepotibus suis, Heriberti filiis" in 943[208].¬â Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915].¬â Her name is deduced as follows.¬â The 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[209].¬â Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Bâ©atrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife.¬â This reasoning appears based firstly on Hugues already being married in [914], and secondly on the probability of his having reached the age of majority when he was recognised as duke in 922.¬â The 907 document is explained as referring to Robert and his elder daughter.¬â The issue, however, is not beyond doubt, especially if the document in question was misdated.¬â Her marriage date assumes that this identification is correct.¬â
Comte Hâ©ribert II & his wife had [eight] children:
1.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ODO‰ [Eudes] ([915]-after 19 Jun 946).‰ ‰ Vicomte de Vienne: Flodoard records that "Odonis filii sui [=Heriberto]" was appointed‰ vicecomes‰ when Ugo King of Italy gave his father "provintiam Viennensem" in 928[210].‰ His father left him in [927] as a hostage with Rollo Comte [de Normandie].‰ Unlike his father, he swore allegiance to Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of the Franks in 938 and received the guardianship of the royal residence at Laon.‰ He occupied the town and county of Amiens, but was expelled in 944[211].‰ ‰ ‰ ‰
2.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ADELA¬â de Vermandois¬â ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Ghent, St Pieter).¬â The¬â Genealogica¬â Arnulfi Comitis¬â names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[212].¬â Flodoard refers to the wife of "Arnoul" as sister¬â of "Hugo¬â [de Vermandois Archbishop of Reims]"[213].¬â Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[214].¬â "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea·Ä¶Adala atque·Ä¶filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[215].¬â "Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis·Ä¶Odacri advocati"[216].¬â The¬â Annales¬â Blandinienses¬â record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[217].¬â ¬â m¬â (934) as his second wife,¬â ARNOUL I¬â "le Grand"¬â Count of Flanders, son of BAUDOUIN II "le Chauve" Count of Flanders & his wife âÜlfthryth of Wessex ([885/890]-murdered 27 Mar 964, bur Ghent, St Pieter).¬â ¬â
3.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â HERIBERT¬â [III] "le Vieux" ([910/26]-[983/early 985], bur Lagny).¬â Flodoard names "Heriberti¬â Adalberti¬â fratris" when recording his marriage, and in a later passage "nepotes Hugonis, Heribertus et Rotbertus"[218].¬â His date of birth has been estimated at [910/15] by Werner[219], whereas Settipani supports a later estimate of [925/26][220].¬â The former appears more consistent with Hâ©ribert's participation in his father's war from 938.¬â If the latter is correct, comte Hâ©ribert would have been more than 20 years younger than his wife, which seems unlikely.¬â There appears to be no basis for deciding between one or the other.¬â He is documented with his father between 938 and 942 in the latter's war against King Louis IV, submitting to the king with his father in 942.¬â Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, Hâ©ribert became Comte d'Omois and received the fortress of Châ¢teau-Thierry as well as the abbey of Saint-Mâ©dard, Soissons.¬â King Lothaire appointed him comte du palais (comte palatin).¬â He succeeded his brother Robert in 967 as Comte de Meaux et de Troyes.¬â His proposed death date range in [983/early 985] is estimated on the following basis.¬â A letter of Gerbert dated 983 records that "Heriberti¬â Trecassini et Oddonis comitis filii Tedbaldi" were enemies of "Adelbero¬â Remonis¬â archiepiscopus"[221].¬â However, a letter dated to Apr 985 names "Ottonis et Heriberti", while a letter dated to mid-985 records that "Ottonem, Heribertum" made peace with the archbishop[222].¬â Another letter of Gerbert dated to [late 986/early 987] records that "O et Heribertus comites" were part of the council of Emma Queen of France[223].¬â It is assumed that "Oddonis/Ottonem/O" all refer to the same person.¬â However, it is suggested that only the first letter applies to Hâ©ribert [III], the change to Hâ©ribert [V] (nephew and successor of Hâ©ribert [III], son of the latter's brother Robert) being indicated in the subsequent letters by "Heribertum" being named after "Ottonem" instead of before, which suggests that he was the junior of the two from Apr 985.¬â The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the burial of "comes Trecensis Heribertus II cognomento Vetulus" in "abbatiam Latiniaci"[224].¬â ¬â m¬â (951) as her second husband,¬â EADGIFU, widow of¬â CHARLES III¬â "le Simple"¬â King of the Franks, daughter of EDWARD I King of Wessex & his second wife âÜlfleda --- ([902/05][225]-26 Sep after 951, bur Abbaye de Saint-Mâ©dard de Soissons).¬â Flodoard records in 951 that ·ÄúOttogeba regina mater Ludowici regis·Äù married ·ÄúHeriberti...Adalberti fratris·Äù and that ·Äúrex Ludowicus iratus·Äù confiscated ·Äúabbatiam sanctⶠMariâ¶...Lauduni·Äù from her and donated it to ·ÄúGerbergⶠuxori su⶷Äù[226].¬â
4.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â HUGUES¬â (920-Meaux 962).¬â Flodoard names "Hugone diacono Heriberti filio", when recording his installation as archbishop of Reims in 940[227].¬â His father engineered the grant by Raoul King of France of the temporal administration of the archbishopric of Reims to Hugues in 925.¬â The¬â Annales Remenses¬â record in 926 that, after the death of "Seulfo archipresule", "Hugo filius Heriberti comitis, adhuc quinquennis" was elected[228].¬â The appointment was confirmed by Pope John X, but the grant was withdrawn by the king in 932 after he besieged the city[229].¬â Hugues entered holy orders in 940: Flodoard records in 940 that ·ÄúWidone Suessonico prâ¶sule·Äù ordained ·ÄúHugo filius Heriberti Remis...presbiter·Äù[230].¬â His father, who had captured Reims in [Jun/Jul] 940, forced Hugues's restoration as¬â archbishop of Reims.¬â Besieged at Laon, King Louis IV was obliged to confirm Hugues's appointment as archbishop and also appointed Hugues as his Arch-Chancellor.¬â Hugues was expelled from Reims in 946 when the town was retaken by King Louis.¬â He was finally deprived of his archbishopric by the papal legate in 948: Flodoard records in 948 that ·Äúlitteras...ex nomine Agapiti pap⶷Äù sent ·Äúad episcopos per clericum suum·Äù ordered ·ÄúHugoni·Äù to withdraw from ·ÄúRemense...episcopium·Äù[231].¬â Flodoard records in 949 that ·ÄúAgapitus papa·Äù held a synod ·Äúapud sanctum Petrum·Äù which confirmed ·Äúdampnationem Hugonis episcopi apud Ingulenheim·Äù and excommunicated him[232].¬â Flodoard records in 962 that ·ÄúHugoni·Äù requested reinstatement as archbishop of Reims after the death of Archbishop Artaud but that this was refused[233].¬â He died on returning from a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela[234].¬â
5.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â LUITGARDIS¬â (before 925-14 Nov after 985, bur Chartres, Abbaye de Saint-Pâ®re).¬â Rodulfus Glauber refers to the wife of Comte Guillaume as "sororem [Heribertum Trecorum comitem]", specifying that she was childless by her first husband, when recording her second marriage to "Tetbaldus"[235].¬â Guillaume of Jumiâ®ges records the marriage of ·ÄúNormannorum Dux·Äù and "Herbertus...filiam suam", encouraged by ·ÄúHugone Magno·Äù, after the marriage of Guillaume·Äôs sister Gerloc [which would date the marriage to [935] if that report is accurate][236].¬â The¬â Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum¬â refers to the wife of "Tetbaudi comitis" as "sorore Herberti Trecorum comitis"[237].¬â "Theobaldi comitis·Ä¶Ledgardis comitisse" subscribed the charter dated 950 under which Ragnfred Bishop of Chartres donated property to Chartres Saint-Pâ®re, although the relationship between the two is not specified[238].¬â "Ledgardis" donated property to "Sancti¬â Petri Carnotensis¬â ecclesiam", for the souls of "senioris mei·Ä¶comitis Tedbaldi·Ä¶patris mei Heirberti, Trecassini comitis", with the consent of "archipresule·Ä¶Hugone et·Ä¶comite Odone, filiis meis", by charter dated 5 Feb 978, signed by "·Ä¶Emma comitissa Pictavⶠurbis·Ä¶"[239].¬â ·ÄúLedgardis comitissa necnon Hugo episcopus et filius meus et item filius meus Odo comes·Äù donated property to Saint-Martin de Tours, for the souls of ·ÄúTheobaldi comitis quondam senioris mei·Ä¶Richildis quondam sanctimonialis, eiusque filii Richardi episcopi·Äù (referring to ·Äúdicti comitis et fratris sui Theobaldi·Äù, in relation to Bishop Richard), by charter dated to [980][240].¬â "Hugonis ducis, Odonis comitis, Hugonis sanctⶠBituricensis archiprâ¶sulis, Letgardis comitissâ¶, Bertⶠcomitissâ¶, Gauzfridi vicecomitis·Ä¶" subscribed the charter dated 985 under which "Robertus" donated property to "Sancti Petri Carnotensis", on the advice of "Odonem, simul cum sua matre Ledgarde, pariterque dominam meam Bertam, ipsius â¶que coniugem"[241].¬â The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "XVIII Kal Dec" of "Letgardis comitissa"[242].¬â ¬â m firstly¬â ([935]) as his second wife,¬â GUILLAUME I¬â ·ÄúLonguespâ©e·Äù¬â Comte¬â [de Normandie], son of ROBERT I [Rollo] Comte [de Normandie] & his [second] wife Poppa de Bayeux (-murdered Pâ©quigny-sur-Somme 17 Dec 942, bur Rouen, cathâ©drale de Notre-Dame).¬â ¬â m secondly¬â ([942/45])¬â THIBAUT¬â [II] "le Tricheur"¬â Comte de Blois, son of THIBAUT [I] "l'Ancien" Comte de Blois, Vicomte de Tours & his first wife --- (-16 Jan [975/77]).¬â
6.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ROBERT‰ (-after 19 Jun 966).‰ "Rodberti filium Heriberti comitis" witnessed a charter of "Gauzfredus comes" dated Jul 940[243].‰ Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, Robert became Comte de Meaux.‰ He became Comte de Troyes in 956 on the death of his father-in-law, by right of his wife.‰
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ COMTES de TROYES.‰
7.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ADALBERT‰ [Albert] (-8 Sep 987).‰ Flodoard names "Adalbertus filius Heriberti"[244].‰ Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, Albert became‰ Comte‰ de Vermandois.‰
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ see below.‰
8.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [GUY¬â (-after [986]).¬â Dormay, in his¬â Histoire de la ville de Soissons, records that "M. Renaut·Ä¶dit avoir vu un manuscrit de Sainte-Croix d·ÄôOffemont, lequel ne se trouve plus" in which "Guy Comte de Soissons est appellâ© fils de Heribert Comte de Vermandois"[245].¬â ¬â Comte de Soissons.¬â "·Ä¶Wido comes·Ä¶" confirmed the charter dated Jun 974 under which Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Thierry near Reims[246].¬â Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Eloy de Noyon, established by "piⶠmemoriⶠnepos noster Lyudulfus Noviomanorum episcopus·Ä¶assentientibus fratribus suis nepotibus nostris Alberto Viromandensi comite et Guidone", by charter dated to [980/986], signed by "Alberti Viromandensis comitis, Guidonis fratris eius·Ä¶"[247].¬â "Adalbertus comes, Heriberti comitis, Vidonis comitis·Ä¶" subscribed the charter dated to [980] under which "Adalbertus comes·Ä¶in meo Virodumensi comitatu" founded the abbey of Mont-Saint-Quentin near Pâ©ronne[248].¬â He visited Rome in the mid-980s: Gerbert requested "Stephano Romanⶠâ¶cclesiⶠdiacono" to return books to him by "Guidonem Suessonicum comitem", dated to late 984[249].]¬â
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ COMTES de SOISSONS.‰
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The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti generဦRoberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[82]. Her origin is confirmed by Flodoard naming "Hugo dux cum nepotibus suis, Heriberti filiis" in 943[83]. Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915]. Her name is deduced as follows. The 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[84]. Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Beatrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife. This reasoning appears based firstly on Hugues already being married in [914], and secondly on the probability of his having reached the age of majority when he was recognised as duke in 922. The 907 document is therefore explained as referring to Robert and his elder daughter. The issue, however, is not beyond doubt, especially if the document in question was misdated. m (before 21 May 907) HERIBERT II Comte de Vermandois, son of HERIBERT I Comte de Vermandois[-Carolingian] & his wife [Liedgardis] --- ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin).
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