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.tJames Coleman (Robert , Robert , Robert ) was born in 1712 in of, Spottsylvania, Virginia, USA. He died on 22 Nov 1764 in St Thomas Par, Orange, Virginia,USA.
James married Eleanor Madison daughter of John Madison and Isabella Todd on 31 Jul 1732 in , Spottsylvania, Virginia, USA. Eleanor was born about 1714 in , Essex, Virginia, USA. She died before 1764 in , , Virginia, USA.
They had the following children:
t189tFtitMary Coleman was born about 1733 in , Spotsylvania, Virginia, USA.
t t t tMary married George Holland on 21 Mar 1757 in, Orange, Virginia, USA. George was born about 1729 in , , Virginia, USA.
+t190tFtiit Elizabeth (betty) Coleman was born about 1735.
+t191tMtiiit Ambrose Coleman was born about 1737. He died in 1813.
t192tMtivtJames Coleman was born about 1739 in , Orange, Virginia, USA. He died in 1814 in , Halifax, Virginia, USA.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobjackbaycolemans/b05robert.htm
Second Known, Surviving Child of Robert Coleman and Elizabeth Grizzell
Of Mobjack Bay Virginia
Although Judge Coleman did not give a reason for placing James Coleman,who married Eleanor Madison, as a son of Daniel Coleman2, I suspect it had something to do with the friendship between Daniel Coleman and John Madison II. Both men lived in New Kent Co. at one time. Madison, whose father was in New Kent Co. as early as 1657, was a signer of the New Kent Petition in 1688, as was Robert Coleman2, , brother of Daniel2. The purpose of the New Kent Petition was to remove the vestrymen of St. Stephen’s Parish and replace them with vestrymen of the signers’ choice. The fact that Daniel2 did not sign the petition may be due to his not living in St. Stephen’s Parish, or he had not yet settled in the county at the time the petition was written. In 1714, Daniel Coleman2 and John Madison II, both of King & Queen Co., were granted as joint tenants, 2000 acres of land in King William Co. There was an obvious friendship between Daniel Coleman2and John Madison II, but their New Kent and King William Co. connection is not enough evidence to determine whether or not their children married.
Other evidence has been found to support the theory that James Coleman, whose wife was Eleanor Madison, was a grandson of Robert Coleman2, signer of the New Kent Petition with John Madison II.
In a letter from Germantown, PA dated 24 Jan 1884 from Eliza E. Coleman, widow of Rev. Reuben Lindsey Coleman: ."The first Coleman came to this country from England about the middle of the 17th century. I have not ascertained his first name. One of his sons had seven sons and seven daughters." (Descendants of Francis Morgan, p. 110 et seq)
From The ‘Belfield’ Fitzpatricks and ‘Elim’ Colemans by Reba Fitzpatrick Lea, 1958: in a letter to Aylett B. Coleman from his cousin, Samuella Hawes Coleman Fitzpatrick, 8 Mar 1917: "My grandfather’s father \(John Coleman4 who married Eunice Hawes\) had six brothers and seven sisters." Samuella also mentioned great-aunts Rebecca and Frances.
In the 1839 manuscript of Hawes Coleman, he said Robert Coleman3 and his wife, Mary Clayton, had seven sons and several daughters. Hawes named Wyatt Coleman as a son of this couple, when in fact Wyatt was a grandson. That left a missing son of Robert Coleman3 and Mary Clayton, and evidence points strongly to the fact he was the James Coleman4 who married Eleanor Madison. \(For years, it was thought that Robert3 married a Mary Wyatt which may explain why it was believed Robert had a son named Wyatt. However, an old vellum notebook belonging to Robert Coleman3 was found, in which he had written his marriage date to Mary Clayton.\)
In 1732, James Coleman4 was living next door to Ambrose Madison, brother of Eleanor. His land was in that portion of Spotsylvania Co. which later became Orange Co. The descendants of Daniel Coleman2 did not settle in this area. The descendants of Robert Coleman2 did. The heirs mentioned in James’ will were daughters Betty Scott and Mary Holland, sons James and Ambrose, and a niece Mary Coleman Ellis. In Hawes’ manuscript, he said Robert and Mary had "several daughters", but only three had previously been identified: Ann, Susannah and Elizabeth. From the will of James Coleman4, evidence is offered of another daughter, Mary Coleman, who married an Ellis. Their daughter, Mary Coleman Ellis, would have been the niece mentioned in her uncle’s will.
A William Ellis was in Orange Co. VA in 1756: "Accounts paid by William Ellis, apparently the estate account of Thomas Marye, to James Madison, Edward Coleman, Nicholas Jones and Robert Gaines."
After Mary Ellis was widowed, she married on 3 Nov 1770 in Amherst Co. VA, widower John Sorrells. \(The Sorrells Family of the ShenandoahValley of VA" by Dorothy L. Weaver, 1990) Mary Coleman Ellis, called Molly, died after 1783 in Nelson Co. VA (previously Amherst Co.\). There was a marriage contract dated 3 Nov 1770 \(Amherst Co. VA DB C-146) between John Sorrells and widow Mary Coleman Ellis witnessed by Caleb Coleman, John Dawson and Samuel Gay. Caleb Coleman5 was a son of Robert Coleman4 and Elizabeth Lindsay, and would have been a nephew of Mary4 and James4.
Two entries were found in Essex Co. records for a James Coleman who was granted a license to keep an Ordinary in 1729 and 1730. His birth year would have been at least by 1708. The only known James Coleman of that approximate age was the one who marriedEleanor Madison and was living in Spotsylvania Co. in 1732. Spotsylvania Co. was formed in 1721 from Esex, King & Queen and King William. It is very possible that the James Coleman in Essex Co. in 1729 and 1730 was the James of Spotsylvania Co. in 1732.
For this record, and until evidence proves otherwise, Robert Coleman3 and Mary Clayton had: Samuel, James, Spilsbe, Robert, John, Thomas, Richard, Ann, Susannah, Mary, Elizabeth, Rebecca and Frances. \(A seventh daughter, Susannah, died in infancy and a subsequent daughter was also named Susannah.\)
Although many county records have been lost or destroyed, it does not mean there are no records in existence. Angie Bird of Carterville, IL visited a small library in the southern part of that state and sent information that identified a previously unknown son of Robert Spilsbe Coleman4. \(Spilsbe3 Robert2 Robert1)
In Merchant Accounts Book of King & Queen Co. VA, 1749-52 , a John Coleman was named a son of Robert Spilsbe Coleman4. Although nothing further is known of this John Coleman, at least his existence has been established. The account books belonged to a man named Ninian Boog, a factor for Buchanan & Hamilton, Liverpool merchants. There are currently three known ledger books and one daybook. The ledger books were used to record credit sales made by King & Queen Co. residents. The daybook was used to record credit sales until they could be entered into the ledger books. In addition to John Coleman, a Thomas Coleman was also listed as a son of Robert Spilsbe Coleman4. \(Swem Library at the College of William &Mary has Ledger Books A&B. The Virginia State Archives in Richmond has Ledger Book C, accession #28893.)
As explained in the preface to the ledger books, a barter and exchange method of acquiring household goods was often used in the early Virginia colonies. Although tobacco was the most favored form of payment, chickens, eggs, butter, honey, beans, cabbage, watermelons, turkeys, apples, onions and peaches were also used. The names of tobacco warehouses were also mentioned in the ledger books, and indicated the area in which a planter lived.
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.tJames Coleman (Robert , Robert , Robert ) was born in 1712 in of, Spottsylvania, Virginia, USA. He died on 22 Nov 1764 in St Thomas Par, Orange, Virginia,USA.
James married Eleanor Madison daughter of John Madison and Isabella Todd on 31 Jul 1732 in , Spottsylvania, Virginia, USA. Eleanor was born about 1714 in , Essex, Virginia, USA. She died before 1764 in , , Virginia, USA.
They had the following children:
t189tFtitMary Coleman was born about 1733 in , Spotsylvania, Virginia, USA.
t t t tMary married George Holland on 21 Mar 1757 in,Orange, Virginia, USA. George was born about 1729 in , , Virginia, USA.
+t190tFtiit Elizabeth (betty) Coleman was born about 1735.
+t191tMtiiit Ambrose Coleman was born about 1737. He died in 1813.
t192tMtivtJames Coleman was born about 1739 in , Orange, Virginia, USA. He died in 1814 in , Halifax, Virginia, USA.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobjackbaycolemans/b05robert.htm
Second Known, Surviving Child of Robert Coleman and Elizabeth Grizzell
Of Mobjack Bay Virginia
Although Judge Coleman did not give a reason for placing James Coleman,whomarried Eleanor Madison, as a son of Daniel Coleman2, I suspect it had something to do with the friendship between Daniel Coleman and John Madison II. Both men lived in New Kent Co. at one time. Madison, whose father was in New Kent Co. as early as 1657, was a signer of the New Kent Petition in 1688, as was Robert Coleman2, , brother of Daniel2. The purpose of the New Kent Petition was to remove the vestrymen of St. Stephen’s Parish and replace them with vestrymen of the signers’ choice. The fact that Daniel2 did not sign the petition may be due to his not living in St. Stephen’s Parish, or he had not yet settled in the county at the time the petition was written. In 1714, Daniel Coleman2 and John Madison II, both of King & Queen Co., were granted as joint tenants, 2000 acres of land in King William Co. There was an obvious friendship between Daniel Coleman2and John Madison II, but their New Kent and King William Co. connection is not enoughevidence to determine whether or not their children married.
Other evidence has been found to support the theory that James Coleman, whose wife was Eleanor Madison, was a grandson of Robert Coleman2, signer of the New Kent Petition with John Madison II.
In a letter from Germantown, PA dated 24 Jan 1884 from Eliza E. Coleman, widow of Rev. Reuben Lindsey Coleman: ."The first Coleman came to this country from England about the middle of the 17th century. I have not ascertained his first name. One of his sons had seven sons and seven daughters." (Descendants of Francis Morgan, p. 110 et seq)
From The ‘Belfield’ Fitzpatricks and ‘Elim’ Colemans by Reba Fitzpatrick Lea, 1958: in a letter to Aylett B. Coleman from his cousin, Samuella Hawes Coleman Fitzpatrick, 8 Mar 1917: "My grandfather’s father \(John Coleman4 who married Eunice Hawes\) had six brothers and seven sisters." Samuella also mentioned great-aunts Rebecca and Frances.
In the 1839 manuscript of Hawes Coleman, he said Robert Coleman3 and his wife, Mary Clayton, had seven sons and several daughters. Hawes namedWyatt Coleman as a son of this couple, when in fact Wyatt was a grandson. That left a missing son of Robert Coleman3 and Mary Clayton, and evidence points strongly to the fact he was the James Coleman4 who married Eleanor Madison. \(For years, it was thought that Robert3 married a Mary Wyatt which may explain why it was believed Robert had a son named Wyatt. However, an old vellum notebook belonging to Robert Coleman3 was found, in which he had written his marriage date to Mary Clayton.\)
In 1732, James Coleman4 was living next door to Ambrose Madison, brother of Eleanor. His land was in that portion of Spotsylvania Co. which later became Orange Co. The descendants of Daniel Coleman2 did not settle in this area. The descendants of Robert Coleman2 did. The heirs mentioned in James’ will were daughters Betty Scott and Mary Holland, sons James and Ambrose, and a niece Mary Coleman Ellis. In Hawes’ manuscript, he said Robert and Mary had "several daughters", but only three had previously been identified: Ann, Susannah and Elizabeth. From the will of James Coleman4, evidence is offered of another daughter, Mary Coleman, who married an Ellis. Their daughter, Mary Coleman Ellis, would have been the niece mentioned in her uncle’s will.
A William Ellis was in Orange Co. VA in 1756: "Accounts paid by William Ellis, apparently the estate account of Thomas Marye, toJames Madison, Edward Coleman, Nicholas Jones and Robert Gaines."
After Mary Ellis was widowed, she married on 3 Nov 1770 in Amherst Co. VA, widower John Sorrells. \(The Sorrells Family of the ShenandoahValley of VA" by Dorothy L. Weaver, 1990) Mary Coleman Ellis, called Molly, died after 1783 in Nelson Co. VA (previously Amherst Co.\). There was a marriage contract dated 3 Nov 1770 \(Amherst Co. VA DB C-146) between John Sorrells and widow Mary Coleman Ellis witnessed by Caleb Coleman, John Dawson and Samuel Gay. Caleb Coleman5 was a son of Robert Coleman4 and Elizabeth Lindsay, and would have been a nephew of Mary4 and James4.
Two entries were found in Essex Co. records for a James Coleman who was granted a license to keep an Ordinary in 1729 and 1730. His birth year would have been at least by 1708. The only known James Coleman of that approximate age was the one who marriedEleanor Madison and was living in Spotsylvania Co. in 1732. Spotsylvania Co. was formed in 1721 from Esex, King & Queen and King William. It is very possible that the James Coleman in Essex Co. in 1729 and 1730 was the James of Spotsylvania Co. in 1732.
For this record, and until evidence proves otherwise, Robert Coleman3 and Mary Clayton had: Samuel, James, Spilsbe, Robert, John, Thomas, Richard, Ann, Susannah, Mary, Elizabeth, Rebecca and Frances. \(A seventh daughter, Susannah, died in infancy and a subsequent daughter was also named Susannah.\)
Although many county records have been lost or destroyed, it does not mean there are no records in existence. Angie Bird of Carterville, IL visited a small library in the southern part of that state and sent information that identified a previously unknown son of Robert Spilsbe Coleman4. \(Spilsbe3 Robert2 Robert1)
In Merchant Accounts Book of King & Queen Co. VA, 1749-52 , a John Coleman was named a son of Robert Spilsbe Coleman4. Although nothing further is known of this John Coleman, at least his existence has been established. The account books belonged to a man named Ninian Boog, a factor for Buchanan & Hamilton, Liverpool merchants. There are currently three known ledger books and one daybook. The ledger books were used to record credit sales made by King & Queen Co. residents. The daybook was used to record credit sales until they could be entered into the ledger books. In addition to John Coleman, a Thomas Coleman was also listed as a son of Robert Spilsbe Coleman4. \(Swem Library at the College of William &Mary has Ledger Books A&B. The Virginia State Archives in Richmond has Ledger Book C, accession #28893.)
As explained in the preface to the ledger books, a barter and exchange method of acquiring household goods was often used in the early Virginia colonies. Although tobacco was the most favored form of payment, chickens, eggs, butter, honey, beans, cabbage, watermelons, turkeys, apples, onions and peaches were also used. The names of tobacco warehouses were also mentioned in the ledger books, and indicated the area in which a planter lived.
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