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Ragnacaire , or Ragnachaire , is a king of the Franks at Cambrai , killed by his cousin Clovis I.

Gregoire de Tours recounts that Ragnacaire, King of Cambrai, had a favorite named Farron with whom he shared such uncontrolled morals that Clovis, having heard of his behavior, decided to put an end to it by raising the lords of Ragnacaire against their King. Ragnacaire was taken prisoner with his brother Riquier. Clovis killed them with a blow of an ax, and then got rid of the third brother, whom he caused to be killed at Le Mans. This third brother is named Renomer by Gregory of Tours, name corrected most often in Rignomer , Ragnomer, or even Richomer. As for the location of the kingdom of Rignomer, it is subject to debate. Godefroid Kurth believes that Clovis would never have allowed a frank Prince to carve out a kingdom at Le Mans after the conquest of northern Gaul, that Rignomer had the royal title as a male member of the royal family and that he was killed at Le Mans without being its king, but contemporary historian Michel Rouche thinks that Aegidius , father of Syagrius , had installed Rignomer as military leader and governor of Le Mans.

However, the time of the event is unclear. Gregory of Tours placed it at the end of the reign of Clovis, that is to say about 510. But Godefroid Kurth questioned this date, considering that Gregory of Tours holds his information of the popular tradition and that this one , half a century later, does not date with precision. As he would have obtained from the popular tradition the account of the three eliminations of Chlodéric , Cararic, and Ragnacaire, he would have placed them in the same place, that is, at the end of the reign of Clovis. Kurth also believes that after 507 Clovis is busy organizing the recently conquered Aquitaine administration and does not have time to fight the other Frankish kingdoms. In addition Cararic and Ragnacaire fight at Soissons in 486 , but no longer participate in the following campaigns. Thus Kurth places the conquest of the kingdom of Cambrai between 487 and 491, and that of Cararic in 491 8 .

Ancestry
Gregory of Tours clearly states that he has two brothers, Richaire (or Richer) and Renomer (or Rignomer, Ragnomer or Richomer). The testimony is half a century later and is not disputed.

Quasi-certainties
His kingdom is based in the city of Cambrai , conquered by Clodion the Chevelu between 448 and 451. As there is at least one lineage from Clodion still alive, it is very likely that Ragnacaire and his brothers are descendants of Clodion.

Concerning the other descendants of Clodion, a genealogy of the Frankish kings, written in Austrasia about 629 or 639 gives the following text: " Clodion is the first king of the Franks. Clodion begets Chlodebaud. Chlodebaud begets Mérove. Merovee begets Childebrict. Childebrict begets Genniod. Genniod begets Childeric. Childeric begets Clovis . " This genealogy is erroneous, but probably comes from a list of frank kings that should have been read thus: Clodion is the first king of the Franks. Clodion begets Chlodebaud and Merové. Merovee produces Childebrict (= Childebert or Chilperic?), Genniod (= Gennebaud?) And Childeric. Childeric begets Clovis . What supports this interpretation is that another genealogy, written in Neustria between 584 and 629, confirms that Clodebald is son of Clodion.

Hypotheses
There are two, one based on the onomastics, the other on the location of the Frankish kingdoms.

First hypothesis
In one of his letters Sidonius Apollinaris recounts the arrival at Lyons in 469 of a Frankish prince in order to marry. His wife is not specified, but it is very likely that she is the daughter of one of the sovereigns of Lyons, that is to say either Chilperic I (according to christian Settipani) or her brother Gondioc (according to Franz Staab), both kings of the Burgundians. The motivation of this marriage would be a common alliance of the Burgundians and the riparian Franks against the Alamans . Sigemer, as Franc ripuaire, would be the son of Clodebald or Clodebaud. Another Burgundian princess named Ragnachilde married Euric , king of the Visigoths . Christian Settipani sees the onomastic coincidence and proposes to consider Ragnachaire and his brothers as sons of Sigemer and nephews of Ragnachilde

Second hypothesis
It is based on the location of the kingdoms. Clodion having had two sons his kingdom was divided in two, the western part with Tournai for Merové, the eastern part towards Cologne for Clodebald. Cambrai is in fact close to Tournai and it seems more logical to consider this city as part of the share of Mérova. Ragnachaire and his brothers would then be sons of one of the brothers of Childeric I er . One can deplore the absence of the onomastic element exposed by the other hypothesis. But there are already two alliances with marriages between the Franks and the Burgundians: that of Sigemer in 469, and that of Clovis with Clotilde about 492. There could very well have been a third alliance between the parents of Ragnacaire and one princess burgonde.

Descendence
The three brothers have no known descendant. However, on the basis of the onomastics, certain names are proposed to be a child of one of the three kings:

Richomer († v. 530) bishop of Meaux.
Magnachaire († 565), Duke of the Transjuran Franks, father of Marcatrude, first wife of King Gontran.
Ragnoara, princess of "royal race", married to Pastor, noble Orleanese, and mother of the bishops Austrène d ' Orléans (from 587 to 604) and Aunachaire of Auxerre (from 561 to 605).
SOURCE: Wikipedia: https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnacaire&prev=search

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