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Persoonlijke gegevens Gerberge "de Macon" de Châlon 

• Roepnaam is de Macon.
• Zij is geboren rond 969 TO ABT 944 in Mâcon, Ain, Rhone-Alpes, France.
• Ze werd gedoopt rond 952 in (alternate birth date).
• Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Beroep: .

  {geni:job_title} Contesse de Dijon

• Zij is overleden op 11 DEC 991 TO ABT 991 in Chatau De Pouilly, Pouilly-Sur-Saone, Bourgogne, France.
• Een kind van Lambert d'Autun en Adélaïde N.N.
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 30 mei 2012.

Gezin van Gerberge "de Macon" de Châlon

Zij is getrouwd met Adalbert «El Joven» d'Ivrea "King of Italy".

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 1068.

Kind(eren):

1. Otte Guillaume de Bourgogne  ± 962-1027 
2. Gisela of Italy da Toscana  ± 970-± 1000 

Notities over Gerberge "de Macon" de Châlon

GIVN Gerberge, Countess Of
SURN Burgundy
AFN 9HMC-0S
_PRIMARY Y
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:15:49

GIVN Gerberge, Countess Of
SURN Burgundy
AFN 9HMC-0S
_PRIMARY Y
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:15:49

Name Suffix: Of Burgundy

Gerberga var enten datter til greve Letald I av Mâcon eller mer sannsynlig til greve
Lambert av Chalon som døde i 978.
Hun var gift 2. gang med hertug Henrik av Burgund.
Gerberga levde i april 986 og var død 11.05.993.

NOTE: ES, II:59 says Gerberga was the daughter of Othon. Moriarty, p.37, says parents were Lietaud I, Count of Macon, and Berta, while other sources say Lambert, Count of Chalons, and Aeliz. [Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., R. W. Stuart, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1998]

NOTE: ES, II:59 says Gerberga was the daughter of Othon. Moriarty, p.37, says parents were Lietaud I, Count of Macon, and Berta, while other sources say Lambert, Count of Chalons, and Aeliz. [Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., R. W. Stuart, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1998]

NOTE: ES, II:59 says Gerberga was the daughter of Othon. Moriarty, p.37, says parents were Lietaud I, Count of Macon, and Berta, while other sources say Lambert, Count of Chalons, and Aeliz. [Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., R. W. Stuart, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1998]

[3173] EDWARD3.TXT b 956

Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I16110
# ID: I16110
# Name: King of Italy ADALBERT II 1 2
# Sex: M
# Birth: ABT 936 in Italy 1 2 3 4 5
# Death: 30 APR 971 in Bourgogne, France 1 2 3 4 5
# Ancestral File #: 9HMB-ZN
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 2
# Change Date: 8 JUN 2002 3 4 5 2
# Note:

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[daveanthes.FTW]

OCCU R. of Italia ...
SOUR MINOR.TAF (Compuserve) says CIR 930;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn say 954;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 72 says CIR 936;
SOUR COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), MINOR.TAF (Compuserve), 4607570;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. says ABT 30 Apr 971;
HAWKINS.GED says 30-Apr-971;
Marc. of Ivree - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Adalbert I de Italie - BAIL3.GED
(Compuserve), 137; Dispossed Otto I (recorded after 990) as Count of Labengau
- Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 47; King of Lombardy, Joint-
king of Italy, 950-961 - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 72;
Deposed 963, Count of Aosta Acceded 950 - gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001

Father: Berenger II of ITALY b: ABT 900 in Lombardy, Italy
Mother: Willa of TUSCANY b: ABT 930 in Arles, Tuscany

Marriage 1 Gerberge DE MACON b: ABT 928 in Bourgogne, France

* Married: 958 1 2 3 4 5

Children

1. Has Children Othon-Guillaume DE MACON b: ABT 958 in Bourgogne, France
2. Has No Children Bertha IVERA b: ABT 980

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GIVN Gerberge, Countess Of
SURN Burgundy
AFN 9HMC-0S
_PRIMARY Y
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:15:49

[ES ii, 59 rev.]

[ES ii, 59 rev.]

#Générale##Générale#Décès : ou 11 Décembre entre 986 et 991 (?)

{geni:occupation} Countess de Borgoña, Contesse de Dijon, Count de Macon, de Nevers, Otto William

{geni:about_me} Gerberga de Mâcon

most likely the daughter of Lambert d'Autun, Count of Chalon (though this theory is not without problems--see below)

married first, Adalbert II King of Italy and by him had a son, Otto-Guillaume and perhaps a daughter, Williburg who married Liutaud, graf im Sundgau

married second Henri (Eudes) I Duke of Burgundy (Bourgogne) who adopted her son Otto-Guillaume

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http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN NOBILITY.htm

Son of Robert (Vicomte d'Autun, Vicomte de Dijon) and Ingletrude.

LAMBERT (-22 Feb 979). [m firstly ---. There is no evidence that Comte Lambert had a first wife before he married Adelais. However, if Gerberge was Lambert's daughter (which is far from certain, as explained below), it is extremely unlikely from a chronological point of view that her mother could have been Adelais.]

m [secondly] as her first husband, ADELAIS, daughter of --- (-after 18 Oct 984).

Comte Lambert & his [first] wife had [one possible child]:

a) [GERBERGE ([945]-11 Dec [987/991]). ...Considerable doubt therefore appears to subsist concerning this origin of Gerberge, although no alternative can so far be proposed ... m firstly (before [960/62]) ADALBERTO II King of Italy, son of BERENGARIO II King of Italy [Ivrea] & his wife Willa of Burgundy ([932/936]-Autun [972/975]). m secondly ([973]) [as his first wife,] HENRI Duke of Burgundy, son of HUGUES "le Grand" Duc des Francs & his third wife Hedwig of Germany ([948]-Château de Pouilly-sur-Saône 15 Oct 1002). ...

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDY.htm

Her name and her two marriages are confirmed by the Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne, interpolated into the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, which names "Guilelmum Ottonem et eius matrem Gerbergam" when recording that her son was adopted by his mother's second husband "dux Burgundie Henricus"[96].

Her birth date is estimated from the estimated birth date of her son in [960/62]. The Vita of Hugues Comte de Chalon refers to his (unnamed) sister as having married the Duke of Burgundy[97]. Chronologically, this refers most probably to Duke Henri who died in 1002, although the original of the document has not yet been consulted to check whether the wording supports this conclusion.

Gerberge's origin has not yet been corroborated in the other primary sources so far consulted. The Vita appears to indicate that she was Gerberge, daughter of Lambert Comte de Chalon, but this raises several problems if it is correct.

Firstly, on the death without direct heirs in 1039 of her supposed brother Hugues Comte de Chalon, the county was inherited by the comparatively obscure children of his younger sister Mathilde, apparently ignoring the superior claims of Gerberge's own numerous descendants, among whom were the powerful counts palatine of Burgundy who, one would have thought, would not have missed the opportunity of acquiring another county. Rodulfus Glaber does record that "Hugo filius Lanberti Cabilonensis comitis…episcopus Autissioderi" was an opponent of "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius"[98], which could explain why Bishop Hugues favoured his nephew by his younger sister to succeed to his county. Nevertheless, after the bishop's death, his past opposition to Comte Otto-Guillaume may have provided an excuse for his son to intervene in the Chalon succession if he had a legitimate claim.

Secondly, considering the likely birth date of her son, Gerberge's first marriage must have taken place while her husband and father-in-law were still reigning kings of Italy. They were under continuous pressure from Otto I King of Germany and it is likely that Adalberto's marriage could have brought additional political support. It is not clear how the relatively obscure count of Chalon could have provided this.

Thirdly, after the death in 978 of Lambert Comte de Chalon, and his widow's second marriage to Geoffroy I Comte d'Anjou, no record has been found in the primary sources so far consulted of Henri Duke of Burgundy intervening to prevent Comte Geoffroy taking control of the county of Chalon, which would seem the likely course of action if his wife was the deceased count's oldest child.

Fourthly, Gerberge's estimated birth date creates serious chronological problems if she was the daughter of Lambert's only known wife Adelais. Considerable doubt therefore appears to subsist on this origin of Gerberge, although no alternative can as yet be proposed if we are to respect the wording of the Vita.

The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records the death 11 Dec of "Gerberga comitissa uxor Henrici ducis"[99].

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#AdalbertoKingItalydied971

Adalberto & his wife had [two] children:

a) GUGLIELMO d´Ivrea ([960/62]-Dijon 21 Sep 1026). Rodulfus Glaber names "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" and records that, as a boy, he was secretly stolen from the land of the Lombards and restored to his mother with no small cunning by a certain monk[538]. "Einricus…imperator" confirmed the property of the abbey of Fruttuaria, referring to property donated by "Otto qui et Vuillielmus comes filius Adalberti nepos Berengarii regis", by charter dated 1014[539]. It is assumed from this that he was imprisoned as a child by Emperor Otto I in Italy after his father and paternal grandfather were deposed as kings of Italy. The Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne, interpolated into the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Guilelmum Ottonem et eius matrem Gerbergam" when recording that he was adopted by his mother's second husband "dux Burgundie Henricus"[540]. He adopted the name OTHON-GUILLAUME. He succeeded as OTHON [I] Comte de Mâcon, by right of his first wife. - COMTES de MÂCON.

b) [WILLIBIRG. Jackman suggests[541] that the mother of Hunfried canon at Strasbourg was the daughter of Adalberto associate King of Italy. He bases this on onomastic reasons, in particular the importation of the Ivrean name Berengar into the family of Liutold and the use of "Willa" among the ancestors of Adalbert King of Italy. However, another origin is suggested by the necrology of Zwiefalten which records the death "XIV Kal Dec" of "Unruoch proavus Liutoldi comitis"[542]. If this great grandfather were the father of Willibirg, it may also explain how the name Berenger entered the family, assuming Unruoch was related to the Unruochingi Counts of Friulia. m LIUTOLD Graf im Sundgau, son of KONRAD Duke of Swabia [Konradiner] & his wife Richlint of Germany.]

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The family of Adalbert d'ITALIE and Gerberge de MÂCON

[133809] ITALIE (d'), Adalbert (Bérenger II & Willa d'ARLES [133836]), vice-roi d'Italie

* married about 955

MÂCON (de), Gerberge (Létald Ier & ..)

1) Othon-Guillaume, comte de Bourgogne, Nevers, Mâcon, Beaune et Oscheret, married about 975 Ermentrude de REIMS et COUCY

Bibliographie : Le Sang de Charlemagne; Histoire de la maison royale de France (Père Anselme)

http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/133/133809.php

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Adalbert of Italy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

he retired with his wife Gerberga to Burgundy, where he died at Autun sometime between 971 and 975. His widow married Otto-Henry, Duke of Burgundy, and his son, Otto-William, inherited through his stepfather the county of Burgundy and is thus the forefather of the Free Counts and the Hohenstaufen emperors.

[ES ii, 59 rev.][Custer February 1, 2002 Family Tree.FTW]

[merge G675.FTW]

[ES ii, 59 rev.]

[ES ii, 59 rev.]

110898733. Gerberge IMGARDSDTR(9764) was born about 940.(9765) She died about 990.(9766) Hun var sansynligvis datter av grev Letald I. av Macon. Hun levet i april 986 og var død 11.5.993.

Sui genitori c'è incertezza.

SOURCE NOTES:
www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal07359
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/edw3chrt.html

RESEARCH NOTES:
Countess of Burgundy (956 -). 3 husbands, 2 children

[large-G675.FTW]

[ES ii, 59 rev.]

from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

_P_CCINFO 2-2438

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Original individual @P2447682230@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2308140021@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)
Original individual @P2447682230@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2447676787@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)
Original individual @P2447674563@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2447674596@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)
Original individual @P2447682230@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2447674563@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)

*Forrest=fathers direct line,! dna connections
@Stolp=mothers direct line
+Tamer=husbands direct line
#Wallace & ^Stuetelberg=son-in-laws direct lines
all lines separated.With multiple marks cross over lines
without documentations all is speculative/with ???

MARRIED 2ND HENRY, DUKE OF BURGUNDY (CAPET); CHAUME PRESENTS VERY STRONG
EVIDENCE THAT SHE WAS A DAUGHTER OF LAMBERT, COUNT OF CHLONS

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