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  • Roepnaam is Viscount De Thouars.
  • Hij is geboren rond 1020 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Anjou/Poitou-CharentesFrance.
  • Hij werd gedoopt in het jaar 1048 in Vicomte.
  • Alternatief: Hij werd gedoopt in het jaar 1048 in Vicomte.
  • Alternatief: Hij werd gedoopt in het jaar 1048 in Vicomte.
  • Beroepen:
    • unknown in Viscount of Thours.
    • Vicomte, de Thouars.
    • Viscount, Vicomte, de Thouars, Viscount av Thouars, Champion Battle of Hastings with William the Conqueror.
  • Hij is overleden rond 1094 in St Nicholas de la Cheze, AnjouFrance.
  • Hij is begraven in het jaar 1093 in L'église St NicolasLa Chaize-le-Vicomte
    Pays de la Loire France.
  • Een kind van Geoffroy II de Thouars en Agnès (Aénor Aldéarde) de Blois
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Gezin van Aimery IV "Viscount De Thouars" de Thouars Viscount

Hij is getrouwd met Arengarde de Mauléon.

Zij zijn getrouwd in het jaar 1080 te France.


Kind(eren):

  1. Aliénor de Thouars  ± 1054-± 1093 
  2. Hildegarde de Thouars  ± 1050-1099 


Notities over Aimery IV "Viscount De Thouars" de Thouars Viscount

Name Suffix: Vicount Of Thouars
Name Suffix: Vicount Of Thouars
Fought at Battle of Hastings, 14 Oct 1066, in Duke William's army. [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998]
Fought at Battle of Hastings, 14 Oct 1066, in Duke William's army. [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998]
Fought at Battle of Hastings, 14 Oct 1066, in Duke William's army. [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998]
[Weis 157] companion of William the Conqueror at the battle of Hastings, 1066.
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URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2902060&id=I575149969
ID: I575149969
Name: Aimery IV Viscount Of THOUARS
Given Name: Aimery IV Viscount Of
Surname: THOUARS
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1015 in Of, Thouars, Deux-Sevres, France
Death: 1093 in (murdered), La Cheze, Borugogne, France
Change Date: 1 Apr 2003 1 1 1 1
Note: Ancestral File Number: 9HM9-CF

Father: Geoffroi Viscount De THOUARS (TOURS) b: 0985 in Of, Thouars, Vienne, France
Mother: Aenor Mrs THOUARS b: 0989 in Of, Thouars, Vienne, France

Marriage 1 Auremgarde MOULCON b: Abt 1017 in Of, Moulcon, , France
Note: _UID6DDA2894173B5E43B568189C867C09A7794F
Children
Ildegarde Countess Of THOUARS b: Abt 1041 in Of, Thouars, Deux-Sevres, France
Aleanor (Eleanor) De THOUARS b: Abt 1054 in Of, Thouars, Deux-Sevres, France

Sources:
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Title: Ancestral File (R)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
Repository: Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I03798
# ID: I03798
# Name: Aimery DE THOUARS 1 2 3 4
# Sex: M
# Title: IV Viscount of Thouars
# Name: Aimery DE THOUARS 2 5 4
# Birth: in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, France 1 2 3 5 4
# Death: ABT 1093 in murdered, Le Cheze, Boutgone, France 1 2 3 5 4
# Burial: 1093 Saint Nicholas, de la Chaise 1 2 3 5 4
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 4
# Change Date: 6 OCT 2001 2 3 5 4
# Note:

[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

Father: Geoffrey DE THOUARS b: ABT 985 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, France
Mother: Eleanor (Aenor) Of BLOIS b: 989 in of, Thouars, France

Marriage 1 Aurengarde DE MEULEON b: 1017 in Meuleon XX

Children

1. Has Children Ildegarde Countess DE THOUARS b: in Of, Thouars, Deux Sevres, France
2. Has Children Eleanor DE THOUARS*** b: ABT 1050 in of, Chatelleraut, Vienne, France
3. Has Children Geoffroi DE THOUARS III b: 1072

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Companion of William I at Battle of Hastings. [Ancestral Roots]

Turton, p. 9 has Ameline (2nd wife) as mother of Eleanor de Thouars.
{geni:about_me} Came to England with William The Conqueror. Murdered 1093.

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AIMERY [IV] de Thouars, son of GEOFFROY [II] Vicomte de Thouars & his wife Eléonore --- (-murdered 1093, bur Saint-Nicolas-de-la-Chaise). Vicomte de Thouars. "…Aymerici vicecomitis de Tuarz…" subscribed the charter dated [1047] under which "Guilelmus…princeps Arvernorum" donated property to the abbey of Charroux[1327]. "Vicecomes Aimericus filius Gaufredi et nepos Radulfi vicecomitis" donated property "Flauziacus" to St Cyprien by charter dated [1055/73] subscribed by "uxor sua Aremgardis"[1328]. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le Viconte de Thouars" and "Almaury de Thouars" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[1329]. The Chronicon sancti Florentii Salmurensis records the death in 1093 of "Aimericus vicecomes Toarcensis" and his donation of "Casam"[1330].

m firstly AREMGARDE, sister of Raoul and Geoffroy de Mauléon, daughter of --- (-after 1069). A charter dated 1069 relates to the foundation of Chaise-le-Vicomte by "Aimericus Toarcensium vicecomes" and names "uxor ipius vicecomitis Orengardis"[1331]. The primary source which confirms her origin has not yet been identified.

m secondly MARIE, daughter of ---. 1080. An undated charter of "Aimericus vicecomes Toarcii" refers to "hoc donum quod uxor mee Maria fecit libenter dedit" referring to a donation to the abbey of l'Absie[1332].

m thirdly AMELINE, daughter of ---. 1088/93. An undated charter recalls the foundation of Chaise-le-Vicomte by "Aimericus vicecomes" and names "uxoris eius Amelinæ", subscribed by "Gofredus vicecomes"[1333].

Aimery [IV] & his first wife had seven children:

1. AIMERY . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. before 1090.

2. RAOUL [II] . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. [1094]. Vicomte de Thouars. m --- de Mareuil, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.

3. ARBERT [II] (-killed in battle Jaffa 28 May 1102). "Aimerico vicecomite de Toarcio filiique eius Arberto" witnessed a charter dated [1082] under which "Erchembaldus Grenulla" donated property to Saint-Jean d'Angély[1334]. Vicomte de Thouars. An extract of the history of the foundation of Chaise-le-Vicomte records that in 1101 "Herbertus Toarcensium vicecomes et frater eius Gauffridus cum Guillelmo comite Pictavorum" journeyed to Jerusalem[1335]. "Herberti vicecomitis de Toarcio" renounced his rights to Méron in favour of the abbey of Angers Saint-Aubin by charter dated to [1093/1101][1336]. "Vicecomitem Herbertum" donated property to the abbey of Angers Saint-Aubin, having announced his intention of going on crusade, by charter dated 1101 after 20 Mar[1337]. m firstly (before 1095) AGNES, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. m secondly HILDIARDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. [1123].

4. GEOFFROY [III] (1040-1123 or after). A charter of Chaise-le-Vicomte names "Aimerico vicecomite" and "Gauzfridi vicecomitis filii supradicti Aimerici" dated 28 Aug 1104 "post combustionem castri Toarcii patratam a Gauzfrido Martello adhuc iuvene, Andegavorum comite"[1339]. Vicomte de Thouars.

5. GEOFFROY [IV] de Tiffauges . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Vicomte de Thouars 1131.

6. HILDEGARDE [Aldearde] (-after 7 Dec 1099). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m (before 1060) HUGUES [VI] "le Diable" de Lusignan, son of HUGUES V "le Pieux" Sire de Lusignan & his wife Almodis de la Marche (-in France [1106/10]). He succeeded his father in 1060 as Sire de Lusignan et de Couhé.

7. ALIENOR . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. "Bossonis vicecomitis, Aimerici filius eius, Adenordis vicecomitissæ" witnessed a charter dated [1082] under which "Erchembaldus Grenulla" donated property to Saint-Jean d'Angély[1340]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Boso vicecomes et uxor eius Adenors et filii eorum" donated property to St Cyprien by charter dated 1088 subscribed by "Bosonis vicecomitis et Aenoris uxoris eius et filiorum ipsorum Aimerici et Bosonis et sororis eorum Gisberge"[1341]. "Willelmus Goscelinus monachus Sancti Cipriani" donated property to St Cyprien by charter dated [1088] subscribed by "Boso vicecomes, Ainors uxor, filii ipsorum Aimericus, Boso et Petrus"[1342]. "Castri Araldus vicecomes…Boso…cum uxore Adenorde et filio Aimerico" donated property "allodium…in Brigisensi pago apud villam Culturas" to the abbey of Saint-Florent near Saumur by undated charter subscribed by "filii eius minoris Bosonis"[1343]. m ([1075]) BOSON [II] Vicomte de Châtellerault, son of HUGUES [I] Vicomte de Châtellerault & his wife Gerberge de La Rochefoucauld (-1095 or after).

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Assassinated in La Cheze, Bourgogne, France.

Companion of William I at Battle of Hastings.
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'''AIMERY [IV] de Thouars, son of GEOFFROY [II] Vicomte de Thouars & his wife Eléonore --- ([1020/25]-murdered 1093, bur Saint-Nicolas-de-la-Chaise).''' "Seniori meo Gaufredo vicecomite et filiis eius...Aimerico, Savarico, Gaufredo et Radulfo et uxore sua Adenordi et cunctis primoribus castri Toarcensis" are named as present in the charter dated Jan 1038 under which "Dodelinus..." donated the monastery of Saint-Jacques de Thouars to the abbey of Saint-Jouin-de-Marnes[891]. “Gauzfredi vicecomitis, Adinauris uxoris eius, Haimerici filii vicecomitis, Savarici filii vicecomitis, Gauzfredi filii vicecomitis, Radulfi filii vicecomitis...” subscribed the undated charter, dated to [1053], under which “Berengerium...cognomento Baoverium et de Branno Herbertum” donated property to Marmoutier “in Oia insula”[892]. Vicomte de Thouars. "…Aymerici vicecomitis de Tuarz…" subscribed the charter dated [1047] under which "Guilelmus…princeps Arvernorum" donated property to the abbey of Charroux[893]. "Vicecomes Aimericus filius Gaufredi et nepos Radulfi vicecomitis" donated property "Flauziacus" to St Cyprien by charter dated [1055/73] subscribed by "uxor sua Aremgardis"[894]. Orderic Vitalis names “...Haimericus Toarcensis præses...” among those who took part in the battle of Hastings[895]. "...Aimerici vice-comitis, Radulfi, Gaufredi fratrum...Ermengardis vicecomitisse" subscribed the undated charter (dated to after [1055]) under which "Petrus frater Dodelini" recorded a dispute between Saint-Jouin-de-Marnes about Thouars Saint-Jacques donated by “Dodelinus...” and a horse bought from “vicecomite Gaufredo”[896]. “Girardus, Rainbaldi de Tefalgia filius...” settled a dispute with Marmoutiers, “in manu Haimerici Toarcensium vicecomitis, præsenti matre Adenaure atque Savarico fratre eius”, by charter dated to [1060], witnessed by “fidelium...Basilius de Toarcio, Gausfredus filius eius, Harduinus nepos eius...”[897]. [The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le Viconte de Thouars" and "Almaury de Thouars" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[898]. It is uncertain whether either of these entries relate to Vicomte Aimery [IV].] “Aimericus Toarcensium vicecomes” donated the church of Saint-Jean de la Chaise to Saint-Florent de Saumur, in the presence of “uxor ipsius vicecomitis Orengardis”, by charter dated 1069[899]. "Theobaldus Bellimontis dominus" donated “ecclesiam...de Chiche...” to Saint-Jouin-de-Marnes, with the consent of “Aymericus Toarcensium vicecomes et Herbertus et Gaufridus filii eius”, by undated charter[900]. “Aimericus Toarcencis...vicecomes et dominus” confirmed the church of Saint-Jean de la Chaise to Saint-Florent de Saumur, with the consent of “conjugis meæ Amelinæ nec non filiorum Arberti et Goffredi”, and confirmed donations made by “Gognori sorori suæ...Savarici fratris sui...Ingelbertus prepositus et vicecomes...”, by charter dated 13 Dec 1088, subscribed by “Aimerici vicecomitis, Radulfi fratris eius, Arberti filii eius, Goffredi alterius filius eius”[901]. The Chronicon sancti Florentii Salmurensis records the death in 1093 of "Aimericus vicecomes Toarcensis" and his donation of "Casam"[902].
m firstly ORENGARDE de Mauléon, daughter of --- (-after 1069). ... m secondly MARIE, daughter of --- (-after 1080).
Aimery [IV] & his first wife had five children:
*1. HILDEGARDE [Aldearde] (-after 7 Dec 1099). ...
*2. ARBERT [II] (-Jaffa 28 May 1102, bur Jaffa St. Nicholas). ...
*3. GEOFFROY [III] (-after 1123). ...
*4. GEOFFROY de Tiffauges . ...
*5. ELEONORE (-after [1108]). ...
AIMERI DE THOUARS
The Conqueror and His Companions
by J.R. Planché, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874.

We have already heard of "Le Visquens cil de Thouars" (Aimeri, Aumari, orHaimon, as he is indifferently called), in the first chapter of thisvolume, as the enthusiastic admirer of the martial appearance of theConqueror previous to the battle. "Never have I seen a man so fairlyarmed nor one who rode so gallantly, or bore his arms, or became hishauberk so well; neither any one who carried his lance so gracefully, orsat his horse and manoeuvred him so nobly. There is no other such knightunder Heaven! A fair Count he is, and a fair King he will be. Let himfight and be shall overcome; shame be to him who shall fail him!"

And assuredly no shame could be cast on "li bon Visquenz de Toarz" onthat occasion, who, appointed by William to lead with Alain de Brittanythe left wing of the army, principally composed of Poitevins, Bretons,Manceaux, and of course his own following, which was a numerous one,proved himself "no coward that day."

As neither Monsieur le Prévost nor Mr. Taylor have given us anyinformation respecting the family of this undoubted companion of theConqueror, I shall endeavour to supply the deficiency, more particularlyas this is one of the Norman families in which a remarkable customexisted to the great confusion of the genealogists.

Monsieur de Besly, in a letter to his brother antiquary, the learnedAndré du Chesne, dated 23rd May, 1620, says: "of all the great houses inthis country, there are none in my opinion so difficult to give a clearaccount of as that of the Viscount of Thouars and of the other'Gentilhommes' between the river Sèvre, which flows to Mortagne, and theDive, which passes to Moncontour, the more because in these parts theyhave retained an ancient mode of succession exceedingly singular, and ofwhich an example could scarcely be found elsewhere in the kingdom; forthe eldest son in the direct line, if he had male issue only, took allthe fiefs and 'biens nobles,' with the obligation of providing for hisyounger brothers, which was done by dividing the usufruct of the wholeestate into nine portions, two of which they afterwards divided equallyamongst themselves. But if the eldest son died before his youngerbrothers, his children succeeded only to his personalities, and all hisestates went to the next brother charged with the provision as before toany younger brothers and the children of the elder deceased, bysubdivision of the two-ninths of the usufruct equally amongst themselves,as I have already stated. The lands thus passed from brother to brother,and after the decease of the youngest reverted entirely and absolutely tohis nephews, the sons of the eldest brother, who became heirs of eachother in the regular order of succession. This custom, which was termed'Retour,' was abolished by the Three Estates of the kingdom in 1514, inconsequence of its severity and the troubles and litigation it engendered.

"Here, in fact, you have the true cause and origin of the deplorableconfusion at present to be seen in the genealogies of our nobility inthese quarters. For the fief passing from brother to brother, all theyounger assumed the full title as though they were lords in actualpossession of the territories, in lieu of simple annuitants. Sometimesalso these uncles permitted their nephew, the eldest son of their eldestbrother, to do homage for the lands and bear the title, saving the rightas to the annuity, the reservation of which, nevertheless, was notthereafter expressed in their charters, so that frequently two Viscountsde Thouars are found named in and signing the same charter. Sometimestwelve viscounts are found succeeding each other in less than thirtyyears, arising from the circumstance that the elder of several brothershaving lived to a very great age, the younger having all become old men,soon followed him to the grave, leaving us in these days uncertain and ata loss to guess which was the father, which the son, which the uncle, andwhich the nephew; so that the ordinary calculation could not be reliedupon in such a case which allows ninety or a hundred years for threegenerations."

Guided by this curious exposition of manners and customs, as interestingto the jurist as to the genealogist, I find that our Aimeri IV, Vicomtede Thouars, was the eldest son of Geoffrey II, Viscount de Thouars, by alady named Ainor or Aldearde, but in consequence of the strangeperplexing rules alluded to does not appear to have directly succeeded tohim, though bearing in accordance with them the title of Viscount. He waspresent when Agnes, Duchess of Guyenne, gave the town of St. Angely tothe abbey of that name in 1048. At the time of the invasion he wasprobably between twenty and thirty, and the husband of Aserengarde,sister of Raoul de Mauleon, living in 1069, by whom he had two sons,Herbert and Geoffrey, and a daughter, lldegarde, who became the wife ofHugues VI, Sire de Lezingen.

Aimeri married, secondly, a lady named Ameline, for the health of whosesoul, the souls of his father and mother, of his own soul, and those ofhis sons Herbert and Geoffrey, he gave, in December 1088, the Church ofSt. John the Evangelist, in the Castle of La Cheze, to the Abbey of St.Florent de Saumur. He also commenced the erection of another church inthat castle, in honour of St. Nicholas, and confirmed to it all the giftshe had made to it, with the consent of his wife and children, Thursday,15th of January, 1092.

He died the following year, and was buried in his new Church of St.Nicholas de la Cheze, leaving by his second wife, according to PèreAnselm, four sons, — Savary, Raoul, Hugues, and another Geoffrey, whom hemakes the successor to his grandfather Geoffrey; but as Savary and Raoulwere both witnesses to charters in favour of St. Florent in 1054 and1068, and as he makes Geoffrey out to be eighty years of ago in 1120, andconsequently born in 1040, they could not be the sons of Ameline, marriedbetween 1069 and 1088.

I can recommend the whole pedigree as a pleasing puzzle to all whom itmay concern. I have extracted as much as concerns me on this occasion,which, little as it is, sheds some light on "li bon Visquenz de Toarz,"who was "ne mauvais ne coarz, qui ert apelé Eimeris," and who "mult recule jor grand pris," and at the same time illustrates the singular customrecorded by Monsieur Besly.
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