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• Alternatieve naam: Theobald III de Champagne Ct de Champagne
• Roepnaam is Troyes.
• Hij is geboren in het jaar 1012Champagne
  Rhône-Alpes France.
• Hij werd gedoopt in France.
• Beroepen:
• unknown in Count of Blois and Champagne.
• Comte, de Champagne, de Blois, de Tours, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Troyes, de Meaux, de Sancerr.
• (Misc Event) in het jaar 1066.
• Hij is overleden op 29 september 1089 in Épernay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (alt: Tours, France), hij was toen 77 jaar oud.
• Hij is begraven september 1089 in église St-Martin, Epernay.
• Een kind van Odo (Eudes) II Count of Blois and Chartres en Ermengarde d'Auvergne
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 26 december 2019.

Gezin van Thibaut Theobald "Troyes" de Blois Comte

Hij is getrouwd met Gersende du Maine.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 1044 te France.

Kind(eren):

1. Étienne Henri de Blois, de Champagne, de Chartres, de Meaux  1045-1102 

Het echtpaar is in 1049 gescheiden.

Notities over Thibaut Theobald "Troyes" de Blois Comte

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Weis, p. 121 - Count of Blois and Champagne

Name Prefix: Count Name Suffix: Iii, Of Champagne And Blois

Count of Blois

[Norvell.FTW]

[Nix.FTW]

[Nixon.ftw]

Europaische Stammtafeln says he died in 1089.

[Norvell.FTW]

[Nix.FTW]

[Nixon.ftw]

Europaische Stammtafeln says he died in 1089.

Theobald III of Blois
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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

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Succession
Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

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Life
Theobald conspireed against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close the royal court again and gain infuence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo III. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

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Family and children
Theobald's first wife Gersende of Main, daughter of Herbert of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.
His second wife Adèle of Valois, daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

Philip, who became bischop of Chalons.
Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possesions to his brother Hugh.
Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.

Preceded by:
Odo III Count of Troyes
1066–1089 Succeeded by:
Odo IV
Count of Meaux
1066–1089 Succeeded by:
Stephen Henry
Preceded by:
Odo II Count of Blois
1037–1089

He was was slain in battle by Godfrey Martel, Count of Anjou.

Killed in battle by Godfrey Martel, Count of Anjou

Mike Lysell, (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX), provided the following information via a post-em:
Jim - found the following under "The Counts of Champagne": "Thibaud I of Champagne, also known as Thibaud III of Blois, was born in 1019. Eldest son of Eudes II, he inherited the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres and Sancerre in 1037. He equally had control over Chateau-Thierry, Provins and Saint-Florentin. His younger brother Etienne obtained the counties of Troyes, Meaux and Vitry as well as the abbey Saint-Médard of Soissons.
"A few years after the death of their illustrious father, Thibaud and Etienne participated in the revolt led by Raoul of Crépy and Galeran of Meulan against king Henri I. This rebellion lasted from 1041 to 1044. King Henri received military support from the powerful count Geoffroy of Anjou who laid siege to Tours. On August 21st 1044, in what is known as the battle of Saint-Martin-le-beau, the troops of the count of Anjou were victorious over the forces of Thibaud and his brother Etienne. Etienne managed to successfully retreat, but Thibaud was captured and held prisoner in the tower of Loches. To gain his freedom, and to most probably save his life, Thibaud was forced to give over control of the Touraine region as well as the castles of Chinon and Langeais to the count of Anjou. As a result of this loss, the center of the Blois-Champagne principality shifted away from the Loire valley towards the Seine and the East. Around 1048, Etienne died and left his young son Eudes III in the protection of his uncle who acted as his regent. Upon reaching his majority, Eudes III distanced himself from Thibaud.
"He came dangerously under the influence of king Philippe I before finally deciding to take part in the conquest of England in 1066. He left France never to return again. From this point onward, the count Thibaud took control permanently of all the lands belonging to his family. In 1045, Thibaud married Gersent of Le Mans who gave him his first son, Etienne-Henri. In 1049, Thibaud annulled this marriage, expressly at the demand of pope Leon IX, for reasons of parentage.
"Thibaud I was directly implicated in the establishment of at least 12 monastic and parish churches in the Champagne region (a Benedictine priory for Saint-Germain of Auxerre at Saint-Florentin after 1037 ; a Benedictine priory for Marmoutier at Ventelay before 1042 ; the Benedictine priory of Saint-Ayoul for Montier-la-Celle at Provins in 1048 ; the hôtel-Dieu of Provins in circa 1050 ; the parish church at La-Croix-sur-Ourcq circa 1050 ; the collegiate church of Oulchy-le-Château after 1050 ; the parish church of Charlesville in 1060 ; the Benedictine priory of Sainte-Foy for Sainte-Foy of Conques at Coulommiers after 1060 ; the Clunisian priory of Saint-Pierre at Coincy in 1072 ; the collegiate church of Saint-Jean-des-Vignes at Soissons in 1076 ; the collegiate church of Saint-Martin of Vertus in 1081 ; the Benedictine abbey Saint-Sauveur at Vertus in circa 1081 ; the Benedictine priory of Saint-Quentin of Troyes for Molesmes before 1089 or 1090). He was in fact a self-proclaimed protector of all monastic institutions in Champagne. This great interest for monasticism was in part due to his concern for maintaining the independence of these communities from political rivals and it was a means of assuring better, friendly control of territories in these newly acquired eastern lands. His sphere of influence was thus made more considerable. As for his western domains, Thibaud established fewer new communities there. He was however the defensor of the great monastic house of Marmoutier in the Touraine region to whom he gave several tracts of land which permitted the establishment of two new priories in the county of Blois. Later in his life, Thibaud was to play an important role in what is now known as the 'Quarrel of Investitures'.
Since the papacy of Leon IX (1049-1054), the Roman church began actively to fight simony in the ranks of the French episcopacy as well as to take steps in extracting itself from what was felt at the time to be heavy handed secular influence. Archbishops and bishops who had gained their office not by election, but by fraudulent means were to step down or risk anathema and excommunication. The reforms came to a climax during the reign of pope Gregory VII (1073-1085). The king of France, Philippe I, did not cooperate with Rome and had no desire to see French dioceses gain in independence. For decades the Capetian monarchs had themselves been appointing ecclesiastics to office. This was too often done in exchange for 'gifts' to the king and meant that the monarch had a great deal of influence over those appointed in this manner. The pope sent legates to France who were to reform the French episcopacy and to excommunicate those who did not heed the decisions of the popes representatives. Thibaud I invited the legates to hold a council in his city of Meaux in Brie. In 1081, this council decided the excommunication of several of the king’s appointees. Another decision of great importance made at Meaux was that all monastic communities in Champagne and elsewhere in the north of France with fewer than ten members were to be affiliated with Cluny or Marmoutier, thus they would be protected from those nobles and others who might try to exploit them. Thibaud I was undeniably an ally to the reformers and participated throughout his lifetime to revitalizing the Church in France.
"The count Thibaud I Champagne died in 1089 at the age of seventy and was buried not at Marmoutier, but in the collegiate church of Saint-Martin founded by his father in the heart ot the Champagne region at Epernay. His eldest son Etienne-Henri inherited the western counties as well as Meaux. His sons Eudes IV and Hugues, born from his second marriage in 1060 to Adela of Bar-sur-Aube, received the remaining eastern counties. His youngest son, Philip, would become bishop of Chalons, but would only be in office one year before dying at a rather young age." This sheds some light on his marriage to and divorce from Gersende du Maine and indicates she is the mother of Stephen (Etienne-Henri).
The website is located at //lamop.univ-paris1.fr/baudin/anglais/Thibaud1. No authors or sources are listed.

Mike Lysell, (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX), provided the following informationvia a post-em:

Jim - found the following under "The Counts of Champagne": "Thibaud Iof Champagne, also known as Thibaud III of Blois, was born in 1019.Eldest son of Eudes II, he inherited the counties of Blois, Tours,Chartres and Sancerre in 1037. He equally had control overChateau-Thierry, Provins and Saint-Florentin. His younger brotherEtienne obtained the counties of Troyes, Meaux and Vitry as well asthe abbey Saint-Médard of Soissons.

"A few years after the death of their illustrious father, Thibaud andEtienne participated in the revolt led by Raoul of Crépy and Galeranof Meulan against king Henri I. This rebellion lasted from 1041 to1044. King Henri received military support from the powerful countGeoffroy of Anjou who laid siege to Tours. On August 21st 1044, inwhat is known as the battle of Saint-Martin-le-beau, the troops of thecount of Anjou were victorious over the forces of Thibaud and hisbrother Etienne. Etienne managed to successfully retreat, but Thibaudwas captured and held prisoner in the tower of Loches. To gain hisfreedom, and to most probably save his life, Thibaud was forced togive over control of the Touraine region as well as the castles ofChinon and Langeais to the count of Anjou. As a result of this loss,the center of the Blois-Champagne principality shifted away from theLoire valley towards the Seine and the East. Around 1048, Etienne diedand left his young son Eudes III in the protection of his uncle whoacted as his regent. Upon reaching his majority, Eudes III distancedhimself from Thibaud.

"He came dangerously under the influence of king Philippe I beforefinally deciding to take part in the conquest of England in 1066. Heleft France never to return again. From this point onward, the countThibaud took control permanently of all the lands belonging to hisfamily. In 1045, Thibaud married Gersent of Le Mans who gave him hisfirst son, Etienne-Henri. In 1049, Thibaud annulled this marriage,expressly at the demand of pope Leon IX, for reasons of parentage.

"Thibaud I was directly implicated in the establishment of at least 12monastic and parish churches in the Champagne region (a Benedictinepriory for Saint-Germain of Auxerre at Saint-Florentin after 1037 ; aBenedictine priory for Marmoutier at Ventelay before 1042 ; theBenedictine priory of Saint-Ayoul for Montier-la-Celle at Provins in1048 ; the hôtel-Dieu of Provins in circa 1050 ; the parish church atLa-Croix-sur-Ourcq circa 1050 ; the collegiate church ofOulchy-le-Château after 1050 ; the parish church of Charlesville in1060 ; the Benedictine priory of Sainte-Foy for Sainte-Foy of Conquesat Coulommiers after 1060 ; the Clunisian priory of Saint-Pierre atCoincy in 1072 ; the collegiate church of Saint-Jean-des-Vignes atSoissons in 1076 ; the collegiate church of Saint-Martin of Vertus in1081 ; the Benedictine abbey Saint-Sauveur at Vertus in circa 1081 ;the Benedictine priory of Saint-Quentin of Troyes for Molesmes before1089 or 1090). He was in fact a self-proclaimed protector of allmonastic institutions in Champagne. This great interest formonasticism was in part due to his concern for maintaining theindependence of these communities from political rivals and it was ameans of assuring better, friendly control of territories in thesenewly acquired eastern lands. His sphere of influence was thus mademore considerable. As for his western domains, Thibaud establishedfewer new communities there. He was however the defensor of the greatmonastic house of Marmoutier in the Touraine region to whom he gaveseveral tracts of land which permitted the establishment of two newpriories in the county of Blois. Later in his life, Thibaud was toplay an important role in what is now known as the 'Quarrel ofInvestitures'.

Since the papacy of Leon IX (1049-1054), the Roman church beganactively to fight simony in the ranks of the French episcopacy as wellas to take steps in extracting itself from what was felt at the timeto be heavy handed secular influence. Archbishops and bishops who hadgained their office not by election, but by fraudulent means were tostep down or risk anathema and excommunication. The reforms came to aclimax during the reign of pope Gregory VII (1073-1085). The king ofFrance, Philippe I, did not cooperate with Rome and had no desire tosee French dioceses gain in independence. For decades the Capetianmonarchs had themselves been appointing ecclesiastics to office. Thiswas too often done in exchange for 'gifts' to the king and meant thatthe monarch had a great deal of influence over those appointed in thismanner. The pope sent legates to France who were to reform the Frenchepiscopacy and to excommunicate those who did not heed the decisionsof the popes representatives. Thibaud I invited the legates to hold acouncil in his city of Meaux in Brie. In 1081, this council decidedthe excommunication of several of the king’s appointees. Anotherdecision of great importance made at Meaux was that all monasticcommunities in Champagne and elsewhere in the north of France withfewer than ten members were to be affiliated with Cluny or Marmoutier,thus they would be protected from those nobles and others who mighttry to exploit them. Thibaud I was undeniably an ally to the reformersand participated throughout his lifetime to revitalizing the Church inFrance.

"The count Thibaud I Champagne died in 1089 at the age of seventy andwas buried not at Marmoutier, but in the collegiate church ofSaint-Martin founded by his father in the heart ot the Champagneregion at Epernay. His eldest son Etienne-Henri inherited the westerncounties as well as Meaux. His sons Eudes IV and Hugues, born from hissecond marriage in 1060 to Adela of Bar-sur-Aube, received theremaining eastern counties. His youngest son, Philip, would becomebishop of Chalons, but would only be in office one year before dyingat a rather young age."

This sheds some light on his marriage to and divorce from Gersende duMaine and indicates she is the mother of Stephen (Etienne-Henri).

The website is located at//lamop.univ-paris1.fr/baudin/anglais/Thibaud1. No authors or sourcesare listed.

I thought you would be interested in the information.

Mike Lysell

(ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobald_III%2C_Count_of_Blois ) Th ibaud is also styled as Comte de Champagne. Theobald III of Blois (Fr ench: Thibaut) (1012 - 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. H e was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne. Theobald inh erited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaud un and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and S t. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Tro yes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1 044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. Fro m then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagn e. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and ga in infuence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father hadu sed before. He used this influence to get control over his brother'spo ssessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo III . Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count o f Aumale and Holderness. Theobald had a position of considerable powe r, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois.Fro m 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun a nd Chartres.

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Main, daughter of Herbert of Maine,C ount of Maine, bore him one child: 1.) Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen. His second wife Adèle of Valois, daughter of Raoul II of Val ois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children: 1.) Philip, who bec ame bishop of Chalons; 2.) Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagn e (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hu gh; and 3.) Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne .

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#Générale##Générale#Profession : Comte de Champagne & de Blois.

{geni:about_me} Theobald III, Count of Blois

Parents: Eudes II de Blois & Ermengarde d'Auvergne

Spouses:

1. Gersende du Maine

Child: Etienne Henri de Blois

2. Gundrada

3. Adela/Alix de Valois

Children:

* Eudes

* Philippe

* Hugues

LINKS

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#ThibautIIIdied1089B

MEDIEVAL LANDS

THIBAUT de Blois, son of EUDES II Comte de Blois & his second wife Ermengarde d'Auvergne ([1010]-29/30 Sep 1089, bur Epernay). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names "Tetbaudus et Stephanus" as the two sons of Comte Eudes, specifying that Thibaut succeeded in "Carnotensem et Turonensem"[131]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Theobaldi filii Odonis Campaniensis" when recording that he lost Tours in 1041[132]. "Odo comes filius [Odonis comitis]" confirmed a donation of his father by charter dated to [1032/37], subscribed by "Tetbaldi filii eius, matris eius Ermengardis…Hervei vicecomitis"[133]. He succeeded his father in 1037 as THIBAUT III Comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Meaux, de Sancerre et de Troyes. He lost Beauvais some time after 1037. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "comte Thibaut" was captured by Geoffroy Comte d'Anjou who extorted the town of Tours from him by force[134]. The Chronica Rainaldi records that "Tetbaldus, filius Odonis comitis" was captured by "Goffrido comite Andecavorum" in 1044 after which the city of Tours surrendered[135]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "II Kal Oct" of "Tebaldus comes Carnotensium"[136]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "comes Theobaldus [filius Odonis]" was buried "apud Spernacum"[137].

m firstly (repudiated 1048) as her first husband, GERSENDE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Euigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife ---([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[138]. She married secondly as his second wife, Alberto Azzo II d'Este. Her second marriage is also mentioned by Orderic Vitalis, who incorrectly says that she was the daughter of Comte Hugues IV[139].

[m secondly ([1050/55]) GUNDRADA, daughter of --- (-[1055/60]). Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1089 under which “Stephanus comes” donated property to the abbey of Pontlevoy, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis patris mei et matris meæ Gundreæ…”[140]. It is assumed that she died soon after giving birth to her son. Another possibility is that “Gundreæ” in this charter is in fact a distorted transcription of “Gersendæ”, the name of Thibaut´s known first wife. This cannot be verified unless another charter emerges which names the mother of Comte Etienne.]

m [secondly/thirdly] (before 1061) ADELA [Alix] de Valois, daughter of RAOUL de Crépy Comte du Vexin et de Valois & his first wife Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube (-12 May [1093/1100], bur Saint-Faron). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydis soror sancti Symonis" as wife of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" but confuses her with her niece Adelais, daughter of Héribert [IV] Comte de Vermandois, saying that she married "Hugoni fratri regis Philippi" after the death of her husband[141]. "Teobaudus comes palatinus…cum mulierum Adelaide" donated property to Montiérender by charter dated [1077/81] which names "bone memorie predecessorum…patris sui Odonis comitis et Heriberto cognomento senioris…comes Rodulfus predecessor suus et propinquus"[142], the latter presumably referring to the father-in-law of Comte Thibaut III. "Adeladis comitisse" subscribed the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Tetbaldi comitis, Stephani comitis"[143], it being assumed that she was the wife of the former not the latter. The necrology of Saint-Loup, Troyes records the death "XII Mai" of "Aalais uxor Theobaudi comitis Campaniæ" and her burial "in monasterio Sancti Faronis"[144].

Comte Thibaut III & his [first/second] wife had one child:

1. ETIENNE [Henri] de Blois (-killed in battle Ramleh 19 May 1102). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names (in order) "Stephanus et Hugo" as sons of "comes Tetbaudus", specifying that Etienne "factus est Blesensium Carnotensium atque Meldensium comes" on their father's death[145]. “Stephanus comes” donated property to the abbey of Pontlevoy, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis patris mei et matris meæ Gundreæ…” by charter dated 1089[146]. As noted above, it is possible that “Gundreæ” in this charter is in fact a distorted transcription of “Gersendæ”, the name of Thibaut´s known first wife. This cannot be verified unless another charter emerges which names the mother of Comte Etienne. He succeeded his father in 1089 as ETIENNE Comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Sancerre et de Meaux.

- see below.

Comte Thibaut III & his [third] wife had three children:

2. EUDES de Blois (-1093). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names (in order) "Stephanum, Othonem, Hugonem fratres comites" as sons of "Theobaldus comes"[147]. Brother of Comte Etienne according to Orderic Vitalis[148]. The fact that he was the son of his father's third marriage is confirmed by "Odonis filius eius" subscribing the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Adeladis comitisse"[149]. He succeeded as EUDES IV Comte de Troyes. "Hugo comes Campanie Teotbaldi comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 2 Apr 1104, which names "frater meus Odo comes…"[150]. [m BERTHE, daughter of ---. "Berte comitisse" subscribed the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Odonis filius eius [Adeladis]"[151]. There is no proof that Berthe was the wife of Eudes, although the proximity of the two names in the list of subscribers suggests that this may be the case. Eudes is not described as "comes" in the charter, but it is possible that this was an oversight as his half-brother Etienne was accorded the title. No other contemporary "Berte comitisse" has so far been identified. Neither has any other reference to any wife of Eudes been found.]

3. PHILIPPE de Blois (-1100). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Philippum episcopum Cathalauensem et Hugonem Campanie comitem" as the two sons of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" and his wife Adela[152]. Bishop of Chalon-sur-Marne 1093. "Hugo…comes Trecasinus cum Philippo fratre meo Catalaunensium episcopo" renounced rights over the village of Rouilly-Saint-Loup by charter dated [1100 or before] which names "patrem meum Theobaudum comitem"[153].

4. HUGUES de Blois (-Palestine 14 Jun 1126). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Philippum episcopum Cathalauensem et Hugonem Campanie comitem" as the two sons of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" and his wife Adela[154]. The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names (in order) "Stephanus et Hugo" sons of "comes Tetbaudus", specifying that Hugues "factus est …Trecassinorum comes" on their father's death[155]. Brother of Comte Etienne according to Orderic Vitalis[156]. He succeeded his brother in 1093 as Comte de Troyes.

- COMTES de TROYES.

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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Family and children

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

1. Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.

His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

1. Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne

2. Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.

3. Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.

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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.

His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne

Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.

Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.

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Thibaut III de Blois[1] (Thibault,Thibaud) né vers 1010, mort à Épernay le 29 ou 30 septembre 1089, est le fils d'Eudes II de Blois et d'Ermengarde d'Auvergne. Puissant maître de maison féodale, le comte de Blois commence une longue carrière politique. D'abord rejeté au nord et à l'ouest de ses domaines, en contrées par trop turbulentes, il accroît finalement son emprise politique et guerrière à l'est en devenant comte de Champagne.

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* 1 Un patron politique de l'époque féodale

* 2 Mariages

* 3 Source

* 4 Notes et références

Un patron politique de l'époque féodale [modifier]

Sous le nom de Thibault III, l'héritier de la maison de Blois devient comte de Blois, de Châteaudun, de Chartres, de Sancerre de 1037 à 1089 et comte de Tours de 1037 à 1044.

Thibault III perd Beauvais après 1037. En réalité, il abandonne surtout, battu à la bataille de Nouy, près de Tours assiégé en 1044, le pouvoir concret sur la Touraine, saisie par la maison rivale d'Anjou menée par Geoffroy II Martel. Il aurait dû aussi en perdre le titre car le roi de France Henri Ier, à qui il avait refusé de prêter hommage, l'en avait dépossédé virtuellement pour le remettre tout aussi virtuellement à son vainqueur. Mais le traité qu'Angevins et Blèsois signèrent à la fin de la bataille n'est qu'une passation de fief.

L'influence compromise à l'ouest, il restait à la maison de Blois de reprendre le chemin des conquêtes à l'est. En 1066, profitant de l'absence de son neveu Eudes II de Troyes, parti conquérir l'Angleterre avec Guillaume de Normandie, il s'empara des possessions de celui-ci et devint sous le nom de Thibaut Ier, comte de Champagne, instaurant ainsi la puissante maison de Blois et de Champagne. Protecteur des abbayes, il favorisa la réforme monastique.

Il eut le rare privilège de voir la canonisation de l'un de ses neveux, Thibault de Provins, qu'il avait tenu sur les fonts baptismaux[2].

L'un de ses petits-fils, Thibaut IV de Blois (ou II de Champagne), dit Thibaud le Grand, comte de Blois-Champagne († 1152), se fit inhumer à l'abbaye Saint-Pierre de Lagny-sur-Marne pour signer son implantation en Champagne face au Capétien[3].

Un autre de ses petits-fils, Étienne d'Angleterre (ou de Blois) († 1154), s'empara en 1135 du trône d'Angleterre aux dépens de sa cousine Mathilde, fille d'Henri Ier d'Angleterre.

Mariages [modifier]

Thibaut III épouse Gersende, fille du comte Herbert Ier du Maine, avant de la répudier en 1048. Ils ont eu pour enfant Étienne II de Blois qui épouse Adèle de Normandie (Adèle de Blois), fille de Guillaume le Conquérant.

En secondes noces, il épouse avant 1061 Adèle de Valois († entre 1093 et 1100), fille de Raoul IV de Vexin. Ils ont eu pour enfants Eudes III de Troyes, Philippe Ier, évêque de Châlons-en-Champagne, Hugues Ier de Champagne, comte de Troyes et de Meaux, chevalier de l'Ordre du Temple.

Source [modifier]

* Larousse encyclopédique en couleurs, France Loisirs 1978.

Notes et références [modifier]

1. ↑ Sa généalogie sur le site FMG [archive]

2. ↑ ms codice menardino civis turensis 5678 BNF, 14e s, retranscrit par Mabillon dans Vita S. Theobaldi Eremitae, Acta SS.Ord.S.B.VI,II, 1701, et par les Bollandistes dans De S. Theobaldo presb.Eremitae, Act.Sanct., p.596, 2, 1709

3. ↑ Michel Bur, La formation du comté de Champagne (v. 950 - v. 1150), 1977, p. 306.

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Theobald III. von Blois (franz.: Thibaut; * um 1010; † 29./30. September 1089) war ein Graf von Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Tours und Sancerre, sowie seit 1063 als Theobald I. Graf von Meaux, Troyes (Champagne). Er war der älteste Sohn von Graf Odo II. von Blois (Odo I. von Meaux-Troyes) etc. und der Ermengarde von Auvergne.

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Theobald ist erstmals 1026 im Heer seines Vaters bezeugt, das vergeblich versuchte, die vom Grafen von Anjou besetzte Burg von Saumur zurückzuerobern. 1037 kämpfte er in der Schlacht bei Bar-le-Duc in der sein Vater fiel. Von diesem erbte Theobald die Stammbesitzungen seiner Familie um Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun und Tours, während sein jüngerer Bruder Stephan die von ihrem Vater neu gewonnenen Territorien um Meaux und Troyes erbte, die den Kern der Region Champagne bildeten.

Beide Brüder standen zu Beginn ihrer Regentschaft, wie schon ihr Vater, in Konflikt mit König Heinrich I. dem sie den Lehnseid verweigerten. Der König konnte dabei auf starke Verbündete wie Graf Fulko Nerra von Anjou zurückgreifen, der Theobalds Burgen in der Touraine überfiel. Ebenso erbten die Brüder von ihrem Vater die Feindschaft zum Kaiser des heiligen römischen Reichs, dessen Herzog Gotzelo I. von Lothringen fiel in die Champagne ein wo er die Grenzburg Donchery (Dép. Ardennes) einnahm, die König Heinrich konfiszieren ließ und an den Lothringer als Lehen vergab.

König Heinrich I. von Frankreich im Jahr 1044 im Kampf gegen die Truppen des Grafen Theobald I. von Champagne. (Miniatur des Jean Fouquet, Grandes Chroniques de France, 15. Jahrhundert)

Nachdem Tod Fulkos von Anjou 1040 bewegten die Brüder im Jahr 1041 den Prinzen Odo dazu gegen seinen königlichen Bruder zu revoltieren. Der König wurde aber schnell Herr der Rebellion und erklärte daraufhin Theobald der Grafschaft Tours für verlustig, die er an dem mit ihm verbündeten Gottfried Martel, dem Sohn Fulkos, übertrug. Bei dem Versuch das von Gottfried belagerte Tours zu entsetzen, erlitten Theobald und sein Bruder 1044 in der Schlacht bei Nouy eine schwere Niederlage gegen Gottfried. Theobald selbst fiel in dessen Gefangenschaft die er auf der Burg von Loches verbrachte. Als Preis seiner Freiheit musste er Tours und alle Burgen der Touraine an Gottfried übergeben, der im Gegenzug aber bereit war Theobald für das betreffende Gebiet als Lehnsherr anzuerkennen.

Diesem schwerwiegenden Verlust folgte in den nächsten Jahren eine Annäherung Theobalds an den König, da dieser von der Machterweiterung seines ehemaligen Verbündeten Gottfried beunruhigt war. Im Jahr 1048 ließ Gottfried den Bischof von Le Mans gefangen nehmen, nachdem dieser die Ehe des Grafen Hugo IV. von Maine mit der Schwester Theobalds vermittelt hatte. Dieses Ausgreifen Gottfrieds auf Maine folgte zuvor 1043 die Heirat dessen Stieftochter Agnes von Poitou mit Kaiser Heinrich III. Diese Ehe sollte vor allem die Herrschaft des Kaisers im Königreich Burgund stärken und ihm eine Rückendeckung gegen Theobald und seinen Bruder bieten, deren Vater noch Ansprüche auf dieses Königreich angemeldet hatte. Gegen Gottfried trat Theobald an Ostern 1048 in Senlis einer Allianz zwischen König Heinrich I., Herzog Wilhelm II. von der Normandie und anderen großen Baronen Frankreichs bei. Um dieselbe Zeit starb Theobalds Bruder der den unmündigen Erben Odo zurückließ. Theobald führte für diesen die Vormundschaft in der Champagne wo er zur bestimmenden Autorität avancierte und seinen Neffen bis spätestens 1063 verdrängen konnte. Somit vereinte er wieder das vollständige Erbe seines Vaters in seiner Hand.

Der Kampf gegen Gottfried fand 1052 jedoch ein Ende, nachdem dieser sich wieder mit dem König versöhnt hatte. Theobald nahm diese Veränderung der Lage zunächst hin und beteiligte sich im Frühjahr 1054 an der Invasion des Königs in der Normandie gegen Herzog Wilhelm, die aber bei Mortemer mit einer Niederlage endete. Noch im selben Jahr brach Theobald wieder mit dem König und huldigte stattdessen in Mainz dem Kaiser. Diese Lehensnahme Theobalds führte bei einem Treffen zwischen König Heinrich I. und dem Kaiser 1056 in Ivois zu einem lang anhaltenden Bruch zwischen Frankreich und Deutschland.

Für Theobald hatte dies keine nachhaltigen Folgen, da der König gegen den Herzog der Normandie gebunden war und 1060 starb. Dessen Nachfolger Philipp I., bei dessen Krönung Theobald nicht teilnahm, war noch unmündig und konnte auch später die königliche Autorität gegenüber den großen Vasallen kaum zur Geltung bringen. Die letzten Jahre seines Lebens verbrachte Theobald mit der Stabilisierung seiner Herrschaft in der Champagne, wo er unter anderem im Konflikt zwischen der Abtei Montier-en-Der mit den Grafen von Brienne und den Herren von Joinville vermittelte. Einen wechselhaften Streit führte er mit dem Bischof von Meaux über die Herrschaftsrechte in Meaux, Spannungen mit dem Grafen Rudolf IV. von Valois wurden durch eine Heirat mit dessen Tochter beigelegt. Diese Ehe sollte Theobald 1077 die Grafschaften Bar-sur-Aube und Vitry einbringen, nachdem sein Schwager Simon von Crépy sich in ein geistliches Leben zurückzog. Weiterhin begründete er mehrere religiöse Einrichtungen in der Champagne, wie zum Beispiel 1072 das clunizianische Priorat in Coincy. Während des Investiturstreits unterstützte Theobald das Reformpapstum, womit er sich gegen die Kirchenpolitik König Philipps I. stellte. Dabei war er 1081 Gastgeber eines Konzils in Meaux, das mehrere Anhänger des Königs exkommunizierte.

Theobald III./I. wurde in der Kirche Saint-Martin in Épernay bestattet.

Der Graf galt lange Zeit als Taufpate des Heiligen Theobald von Provins (* um 1017; † 1066), der 1073 von Papst Alexander II. kanonisiert wurde, was aber aufgrund beider Geburtsjahre als unwahrscheinlich gilt.

Ehen und Nachkommen [Bearbeiten]

Theobald III. heiratete dreimal. Seine erste Ehefrau war Gersende, eine Tochter des Grafen Herbert I. Wachhund von Maine die er 1048 nach kinderloser Ehe verstieß.

Seine zweite Ehefrau war eine weiter nicht bekannte Gundrade oder Gondrée, die die Mutter seines Erben wurde:

* Stephan Heinrich († gefallen am 19. Mai 1102 bei Ramlah), Graf von Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Sancerre und Meaux

Vor dem Jahr 1061 heiratete er ein drittes Mal, Adela oder Alix von Crépy († 12. Mai 1093/1100), eine Tochter des Grafen Rudolf IV. von Valois und Adela von Bar-sur-Aube. Mit ihr hatte er drei weitere Söhne:

* Odo III. († 1093), Graf von Troyes

* Philipp († 1100), von 1093 bis 1100 Bischof von Châlons-en-Champagne

* Hugo I. († 14. Juni 1126), Graf von Troyes 1093, ab 1102 „Graf von Champagne“

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* Kurzbiografie zu Theobald III./I. (franz.)

* Materialsammlung

Vorgänger Amt Nachfolger

Odo II. von Blois Graf von Blois

Graf von Chartres

Graf von Châteaudun

Graf von Sancerre

1037–1089 Stephan Heinrich

Odo II. von Champagne Graf von Meaux

1063–1089

Graf von Troyes

1063–1089 Odo III.

Simon von Crépy Graf von Bar-sur-Aube

Graf von Vitry

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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.

His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne

Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.

Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.
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Comte de Blois et de Chartres

Comte de Tours, de Troyes et de Meaux

Comte de Champagne
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Profil pfotho: Theobold in Kampf gegen König Heinrich l. von Frankreich im Jahr 1044.
* War ein graf von blois, Chartres, Cha´teaundun, Tours und Sancerre. Sowie seit 1063 als Theobald l. Graf von Meaux, Troyes (Champagne).

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Theobald III, Count of Blois

Parents: Eudes II de Blois & Ermengarde d'Auvergne

Spouses:

1. Gersende du Maine

Child: Etienne Henri de Blois

2. Gundrada

3. Adela/Alix de Valois

Children:
•Eudes
•Philippe
•Hugues

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THIBAUT de Blois, son of EUDES II Comte de Blois & his second wife Ermengarde d'Auvergne ([1010]-29/30 Sep 1089, bur Epernay). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names "Tetbaudus et Stephanus" as the two sons of Comte Eudes, specifying that Thibaut succeeded in "Carnotensem et Turonensem"[131]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Theobaldi filii Odonis Campaniensis" when recording that he lost Tours in 1041[132]. "Odo comes filius [Odonis comitis]" confirmed a donation of his father by charter dated to [1032/37], subscribed by "Tetbaldi filii eius, matris eius Ermengardis…Hervei vicecomitis"[133]. He succeeded his father in 1037 as THIBAUT III Comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Meaux, de Sancerre et de Troyes. He lost Beauvais some time after 1037. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "comte Thibaut" was captured by Geoffroy Comte d'Anjou who extorted the town of Tours from him by force[134]. The Chronica Rainaldi records that "Tetbaldus, filius Odonis comitis" was captured by "Goffrido comite Andecavorum" in 1044 after which the city of Tours surrendered[135]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "II Kal Oct" of "Tebaldus comes Carnotensium"[136]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "comes Theobaldus [filius Odonis]" was buried "apud Spernacum"[137].

m firstly (repudiated 1048) as her first husband, GERSENDE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Euigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife ---([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[138]. She married secondly as his second wife, Alberto Azzo II d'Este. Her second marriage is also mentioned by Orderic Vitalis, who incorrectly says that she was the daughter of Comte Hugues IV[139].

[m secondly ([1050/55]) GUNDRADA, daughter of --- (-[1055/60]). Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1089 under which “Stephanus comes” donated property to the abbey of Pontlevoy, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis patris mei et matris meæ Gundreæ…”[140]. It is assumed that she died soon after giving birth to her son. Another possibility is that “Gundreæ” in this charter is in fact a distorted transcription of “Gersendæ”, the name of Thibaut´s known first wife. This cannot be verified unless another charter emerges which names the mother of Comte Etienne.]

m [secondly/thirdly] (before 1061) ADELA [Alix] de Valois, daughter of RAOUL de Crépy Comte du Vexin et de Valois & his first wife Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube (-12 May [1093/1100], bur Saint-Faron). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydis soror sancti Symonis" as wife of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" but confuses her with her niece Adelais, daughter of Héribert [IV] Comte de Vermandois, saying that she married "Hugoni fratri regis Philippi" after the death of her husband[141]. "Teobaudus comes palatinus…cum mulierum Adelaide" donated property to Montiérender by charter dated [1077/81] which names "bone memorie predecessorum…patris sui Odonis comitis et Heriberto cognomento senioris…comes Rodulfus predecessor suus et propinquus"[142], the latter presumably referring to the father-in-law of Comte Thibaut III. "Adeladis comitisse" subscribed the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Tetbaldi comitis, Stephani comitis"[143], it being assumed that she was the wife of the former not the latter. The necrology of Saint-Loup, Troyes records the death "XII Mai" of "Aalais uxor Theobaudi comitis Campaniæ" and her burial "in monasterio Sancti Faronis"[144].

Comte Thibaut III & his [first/second] wife had one child:

1. ETIENNE [Henri] de Blois (-killed in battle Ramleh 19 May 1102). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names (in order) "Stephanus et Hugo" as sons of "comes Tetbaudus", specifying that Etienne "factus est Blesensium Carnotensium atque Meldensium comes" on their father's death[145]. “Stephanus comes” donated property to the abbey of Pontlevoy, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis patris mei et matris meæ Gundreæ…” by charter dated 1089[146]. As noted above, it is possible that “Gundreæ” in this charter is in fact a distorted transcription of “Gersendæ”, the name of Thibaut´s known first wife. This cannot be verified unless another charter emerges which names the mother of Comte Etienne. He succeeded his father in 1089 as ETIENNE Comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Sancerre et de Meaux.

- see below.

Comte Thibaut III & his [third] wife had three children:

2. EUDES de Blois (-1093). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names (in order) "Stephanum, Othonem, Hugonem fratres comites" as sons of "Theobaldus comes"[147]. Brother of Comte Etienne according to Orderic Vitalis[148]. The fact that he was the son of his father's third marriage is confirmed by "Odonis filius eius" subscribing the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Adeladis comitisse"[149]. He succeeded as EUDES IV Comte de Troyes. "Hugo comes Campanie Teotbaldi comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 2 Apr 1104, which names "frater meus Odo comes…"[150]. [m BERTHE, daughter of ---. "Berte comitisse" subscribed the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Odonis filius eius [Adeladis]"[151]. There is no proof that Berthe was the wife of Eudes, although the proximity of the two names in the list of subscribers suggests that this may be the case. Eudes is not described as "comes" in the charter, but it is possible that this was an oversight as his half-brother Etienne was accorded the title. No other contemporary "Berte comitisse" has so far been identified. Neither has any other reference to any wife of Eudes been found.]

3. PHILIPPE de Blois (-1100). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Philippum episcopum Cathalauensem et Hugonem Campanie comitem" as the two sons of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" and his wife Adela[152]. Bishop of Chalon-sur-Marne 1093. "Hugo…comes Trecasinus cum Philippo fratre meo Catalaunensium episcopo" renounced rights over the village of Rouilly-Saint-Loup by charter dated [1100 or before] which names "patrem meum Theobaudum comitem"[153].

4. HUGUES de Blois (-Palestine 14 Jun 1126). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Philippum episcopum Cathalauensem et Hugonem Campanie comitem" as the two sons of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" and his wife Adela[154]. The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names (in order) "Stephanus et Hugo" sons of "comes Tetbaudus", specifying that Hugues "factus est …Trecassinorum comes" on their father's death[155]. Brother of Comte Etienne according to Orderic Vitalis[156]. He succeeded his brother in 1093 as Comte de Troyes.

- COMTES de TROYES.

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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Family and children

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

1. Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.

His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

1. Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne

2. Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.

3. Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.

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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.

His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne

Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.

Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.

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Thibaut III de Blois[1] (Thibault,Thibaud) né vers 1010, mort à Épernay le 29 ou 30 septembre 1089, est le fils d'Eudes II de Blois et d'Ermengarde d'Auvergne. Puissant maître de maison féodale, le comte de Blois commence une longue carrière politique. D'abord rejeté au nord et à l'ouest de ses domaines, en contrées par trop turbulentes, il accroît finalement son emprise politique et guerrière à l'est en devenant comte de Champagne.

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* 1 Un patron politique de l'époque féodale

* 2 Mariages

* 3 Source

* 4 Notes et références

Un patron politique de l'époque féodale [modifier]

Sous le nom de Thibault III, l'héritier de la maison de Blois devient comte de Blois, de Châteaudun, de Chartres, de Sancerre de 1037 à 1089 et comte de Tours de 1037 à 1044.

Thibault III perd Beauvais après 1037. En réalité, il abandonne surtout, battu à la bataille de Nouy, près de Tours assiégé en 1044, le pouvoir concret sur la Touraine, saisie par la maison rivale d'Anjou menée par Geoffroy II Martel. Il aurait dû aussi en perdre le titre car le roi de France Henri Ier, à qui il avait refusé de prêter hommage, l'en avait dépossédé virtuellement pour le remettre tout aussi virtuellement à son vainqueur. Mais le traité qu'Angevins et Blèsois signèrent à la fin de la bataille n'est qu'une passation de fief.

L'influence compromise à l'ouest, il restait à la maison de Blois de reprendre le chemin des conquêtes à l'est. En 1066, profitant de l'absence de son neveu Eudes II de Troyes, parti conquérir l'Angleterre avec Guillaume de Normandie, il s'empara des possessions de celui-ci et devint sous le nom de Thibaut Ier, comte de Champagne, instaurant ainsi la puissante maison de Blois et de Champagne. Protecteur des abbayes, il favorisa la réforme monastique.

Il eut le rare privilège de voir la canonisation de l'un de ses neveux, Thibault de Provins, qu'il avait tenu sur les fonts baptismaux[2].

L'un de ses petits-fils, Thibaut IV de Blois (ou II de Champagne), dit Thibaud le Grand, comte de Blois-Champagne († 1152), se fit inhumer à l'abbaye Saint-Pierre de Lagny-sur-Marne pour signer son implantation en Champagne face au Capétien[3].

Un autre de ses petits-fils, Étienne d'Angleterre (ou de Blois) († 1154), s'empara en 1135 du trône d'Angleterre aux dépens de sa cousine Mathilde, fille d'Henri Ier d'Angleterre.

Mariages [modifier]

Thibaut III épouse Gersende, fille du comte Herbert Ier du Maine, avant de la répudier en 1048. Ils ont eu pour enfant Étienne II de Blois qui épouse Adèle de Normandie (Adèle de Blois), fille de Guillaume le Conquérant.

En secondes noces, il épouse avant 1061 Adèle de Valois († entre 1093 et 1100), fille de Raoul IV de Vexin. Ils ont eu pour enfants Eudes III de Troyes, Philippe Ier, évêque de Châlons-en-Champagne, Hugues Ier de Champagne, comte de Troyes et de Meaux, chevalier de l'Ordre du Temple.

Source [modifier]

* Larousse encyclopédique en couleurs, France Loisirs 1978.

Notes et références [modifier]

1. ↑ Sa généalogie sur le site FMG [archive]

2. ↑ ms codice menardino civis turensis 5678 BNF, 14e s, retranscrit par Mabillon dans Vita S. Theobaldi Eremitae, Acta SS.Ord.S.B.VI,II, 1701, et par les Bollandistes dans De S. Theobaldo presb.Eremitae, Act.Sanct., p.596, 2, 1709

3. ↑ Michel Bur, La formation du comté de Champagne (v. 950 - v. 1150), 1977, p. 306.

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Theobald III. von Blois (franz.: Thibaut; * um 1010; † 29./30. September 1089) war ein Graf von Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Tours und Sancerre, sowie seit 1063 als Theobald I. Graf von Meaux, Troyes (Champagne). Er war der älteste Sohn von Graf Odo II. von Blois (Odo I. von Meaux-Troyes) etc. und der Ermengarde von Auvergne.

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Theobald ist erstmals 1026 im Heer seines Vaters bezeugt, das vergeblich versuchte, die vom Grafen von Anjou besetzte Burg von Saumur zurückzuerobern. 1037 kämpfte er in der Schlacht bei Bar-le-Duc in der sein Vater fiel. Von diesem erbte Theobald die Stammbesitzungen seiner Familie um Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun und Tours, während sein jüngerer Bruder Stephan die von ihrem Vater neu gewonnenen Territorien um Meaux und Troyes erbte, die den Kern der Region Champagne bildeten.

Beide Brüder standen zu Beginn ihrer Regentschaft, wie schon ihr Vater, in Konflikt mit König Heinrich I. dem sie den Lehnseid verweigerten. Der König konnte dabei auf starke Verbündete wie Graf Fulko Nerra von Anjou zurückgreifen, der Theobalds Burgen in der Touraine überfiel. Ebenso erbten die Brüder von ihrem Vater die Feindschaft zum Kaiser des heiligen römischen Reichs, dessen Herzog Gotzelo I. von Lothringen fiel in die Champagne ein wo er die Grenzburg Donchery (Dép. Ardennes) einnahm, die König Heinrich konfiszieren ließ und an den Lothringer als Lehen vergab.

König Heinrich I. von Frankreich im Jahr 1044 im Kampf gegen die Truppen des Grafen Theobald I. von Champagne. (Miniatur des Jean Fouquet, Grandes Chroniques de France, 15. Jahrhundert)

Nachdem Tod Fulkos von Anjou 1040 bewegten die Brüder im Jahr 1041 den Prinzen Odo dazu gegen seinen königlichen Bruder zu revoltieren. Der König wurde aber schnell Herr der Rebellion und erklärte daraufhin Theobald der Grafschaft Tours für verlustig, die er an dem mit ihm verbündeten Gottfried Martel, dem Sohn Fulkos, übertrug. Bei dem Versuch das von Gottfried belagerte Tours zu entsetzen, erlitten Theobald und sein Bruder 1044 in der Schlacht bei Nouy eine schwere Niederlage gegen Gottfried. Theobald selbst fiel in dessen Gefangenschaft die er auf der Burg von Loches verbrachte. Als Preis seiner Freiheit musste er Tours und alle Burgen der Touraine an Gottfried übergeben, der im Gegenzug aber bereit war Theobald für das betreffende Gebiet als Lehnsherr anzuerkennen.

Diesem schwerwiegenden Verlust folgte in den nächsten Jahren eine Annäherung Theobalds an den König, da dieser von der Machterweiterung seines ehemaligen Verbündeten Gottfried beunruhigt war. Im Jahr 1048 ließ Gottfried den Bischof von Le Mans gefangen nehmen, nachdem dieser die Ehe des Grafen Hugo IV. von Maine mit der Schwester Theobalds vermittelt hatte. Dieses Ausgreifen Gottfrieds auf Maine folgte zuvor 1043 die Heirat dessen Stieftochter Agnes von Poitou mit Kaiser Heinrich III. Diese Ehe sollte vor allem die Herrschaft des Kaisers im Königreich Burgund stärken und ihm eine Rückendeckung gegen Theobald und seinen Bruder bieten, deren Vater noch Ansprüche auf dieses Königreich angemeldet hatte. Gegen Gottfried trat Theobald an Ostern 1048 in Senlis einer Allianz zwischen König Heinrich I., Herzog Wilhelm II. von der Normandie und anderen großen Baronen Frankreichs bei. Um dieselbe Zeit starb Theobalds Bruder der den unmündigen Erben Odo zurückließ. Theobald führte für diesen die Vormundschaft in der Champagne wo er zur bestimmenden Autorität avancierte und seinen Neffen bis spätestens 1063 verdrängen konnte. Somit vereinte er wieder das vollständige Erbe seines Vaters in seiner Hand.

Der Kampf gegen Gottfried fand 1052 jedoch ein Ende, nachdem dieser sich wieder mit dem König versöhnt hatte. Theobald nahm diese Veränderung der Lage zunächst hin und beteiligte sich im Frühjahr 1054 an der Invasion des Königs in der Normandie gegen Herzog Wilhelm, die aber bei Mortemer mit einer Niederlage endete. Noch im selben Jahr brach Theobald wieder mit dem König und huldigte stattdessen in Mainz dem Kaiser. Diese Lehensnahme Theobalds führte bei einem Treffen zwischen König Heinrich I. und dem Kaiser 1056 in Ivois zu einem lang anhaltenden Bruch zwischen Frankreich und Deutschland.

Für Theobald hatte dies keine nachhaltigen Folgen, da der König gegen den Herzog der Normandie gebunden war und 1060 starb. Dessen Nachfolger Philipp I., bei dessen Krönung Theobald nicht teilnahm, war noch unmündig und konnte auch später die königliche Autorität gegenüber den großen Vasallen kaum zur Geltung bringen. Die letzten Jahre seines Lebens verbrachte Theobald mit der Stabilisierung seiner Herrschaft in der Champagne, wo er unter anderem im Konflikt zwischen der Abtei Montier-en-Der mit den Grafen von Brienne und den Herren von Joinville vermittelte. Einen wechselhaften Streit führte er mit dem Bischof von Meaux über die Herrschaftsrechte in Meaux, Spannungen mit dem Grafen Rudolf IV. von Valois wurden durch eine Heirat mit dessen Tochter beigelegt. Diese Ehe sollte Theobald 1077 die Grafschaften Bar-sur-Aube und Vitry einbringen, nachdem sein Schwager Simon von Crépy sich in ein geistliches Leben zurückzog. Weiterhin begründete er mehrere religiöse Einrichtungen in der Champagne, wie zum Beispiel 1072 das clunizianische Priorat in Coincy. Während des Investiturstreits unterstützte Theobald das Reformpapstum, womit er sich gegen die Kirchenpolitik König Philipps I. stellte. Dabei war er 1081 Gastgeber eines Konzils in Meaux, das mehrere Anhänger des Königs exkommunizierte.

Theobald III./I. wurde in der Kirche Saint-Martin in Épernay bestattet.

Der Graf galt lange Zeit als Taufpate des Heiligen Theobald von Provins (* um 1017; † 1066), der 1073 von Papst Alexander II. kanonisiert wurde, was aber aufgrund beider Geburtsjahre als unwahrscheinlich gilt.

Ehen und Nachkommen [Bearbeiten]

Theobald III. heiratete dreimal. Seine erste Ehefrau war Gersende, eine Tochter des Grafen Herbert I. Wachhund von Maine die er 1048 nach kinderloser Ehe verstieß.

Seine zweite Ehefrau war eine weiter nicht bekannte Gundrade oder Gondrée, die die Mutter seines Erben wurde:

* Stephan Heinrich († gefallen am 19. Mai 1102 bei Ramlah), Graf von Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Sancerre und Meaux

Vor dem Jahr 1061 heiratete er ein drittes Mal, Adela oder Alix von Crépy († 12. Mai 1093/1100), eine Tochter des Grafen Rudolf IV. von Valois und Adela von Bar-sur-Aube. Mit ihr hatte er drei weitere Söhne:

* Odo III. († 1093), Graf von Troyes

* Philipp († 1100), von 1093 bis 1100 Bischof von Châlons-en-Champagne

* Hugo I. († 14. Juni 1126), Graf von Troyes 1093, ab 1102 „Graf von Champagne“

Weblinks [Bearbeiten]

* Kurzbiografie zu Theobald III./I. (franz.)

* Materialsammlung

Vorgänger Amt Nachfolger

Odo II. von Blois Graf von Blois

Graf von Chartres

Graf von Châteaudun

Graf von Sancerre

1037–1089 Stephan Heinrich

Odo II. von Champagne Graf von Meaux

1063–1089

Graf von Troyes

1063–1089 Odo III.

Simon von Crépy Graf von Bar-sur-Aube

Graf von Vitry

1077–1089

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Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 – 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.

His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne

Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.

Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne. -------------------- Comte de Blois et de Chartres

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Europaische Stammtafeln says he died in 1089.

Theobald III of Blois (French: Thibaut) (1012 - 1089) was count of Blois, Meaux and Troyes. He was son of Odo II of Blois and Ermengarde of Auvergne.

Theobald inherited amongst others the counties of Blois, Tours, Chartres. Chateaudun and Sancerre, and also in Champagne: Chateau-Thierry, Provins and St. Florentin. His brother Stephen inherited the counties of Meaux, Troyes and Vitry.

Theobald conspired against the king of France Henry I, was beaten in 1044 and had to give up the county of Tours to regain his freedom. From then on the centre of power for the House of Blois moved to Champagne. Theobald found ways to become close to the royal court again and gain influence. He got the title of Count Palatine, which his father had used before. He used this influence to get control over his brother's possessions in Champagne that were inherited by his minor nephew Odo of Troyes. Odo later joined the army of William the Conqueror, participated in the battle of Hastings, married a sister of William and became count of Aumale and Holderness.

Theobald had a position of considerable power, that increased when he married the daughter of Raoul de Valois. From 1074 onward, he left his son Henry in control of Blois, Chateaudun and Chartres.

Family and children
Theobald's first wife Gersende of Maine, daughter of Herbert I of Maine, Count of Maine, bore him one child:

Henry, who adopted the name of Stephen.
His second wife Alix de Crepy (Adela) or Adèle of Valois [see Note], daughter of Raoul II of Valois and Adélaide of Bar sur Aube, bore 3 children:

Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne
Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.
Hugh, who became the first to be called count of Champagne.

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